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Thread ID: 20913 | Posts: 5 | Started: 2005-11-06
2005-11-06 06:25 | User Profile
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER [url]http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/247264_guardx05.html[/url]
Guardsman re-enlists, Pentagon kills bonus
Officers from state try to restore $15,000 benefit
Saturday, November 5, 2005
By SAM SKOLNIK SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER
A Department of Defense decision to renege on war-time promises to pay bonuses to more than a dozen re-enlisting Washington National Guardsmen has sparked outrage from prominent elected officials and state National Guard officers working to rectify the situation.
According to a state Guard spokesman, Maj. Phil Osterli, at least 15 Washington National Guardsmen and women signed re-enlistment forms promising them a tax-free $15,000 bonus in return. Many of them were stationed in Iraq at the time, he said.
But Pentagon officials have said in published reports that the bonuses were canceled because they duplicated other programs and were prohibited.
Sgt. 1st Class Carl Latson is one of those in the Washington National Guard directly affected. The Spanaway man, a 13-year military veteran who said he has served both in Operation Desert Storm and in the current Iraq war, re-enlisted in January for another six-year term, which would have taken him close to retirement from the service.
Latson, 35, said Friday that the bonus was a big incentive to re-enlist. At the time it was offered, he was serving in Iraq as an enlisted aide for a general at the Balad Army base near Baghdad.
He signed a re-enlistment form Jan. 17, just after he took the oath from his commanding officer. "For a 6 year reenlistment/extension I will receive a total bonus of $15,000," reads the official Army National Guard form.
After serving two years active duty with the Navy and the last 11 years with the National Guard, Latson said, "I re-enlisted because the opportunity was there to finally get a bonus."
Latson, who served in Iraq most recently from March 2004 to March 2005, said he has been counting on the money to help buy a house and to support his 11-year-old daughter. He said he knows at least 10 other National Guardsmen in the same boat.
"It has made a significant impact on my life," said Latson. "For them to offer a bonus when we're at war, when we're risking our lives, and then to turn around and not pay it when we return is the wrong message to send to me, to any soldier. It's not fair."
The state Guard is fighting the Pentagon's sudden reversal on the issue. Osterli said the state Guard's recruiting and retention commander, Maj. John Sharrett, is in Washington, D.C., arguing to National Guard and Pentagon brass that the reversal is unwise and unfair.
"We're clearly concerned about this issue and want to make sure these soldiers get what they deserve," said Osterli.
Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., is also lobbying Pentagon officials. She first learned that the bonus program had been scrapped this summer, according to The News Tribune of Tacoma. She has since written officials with the National Guard Bureau demanding an explanation.
Latson has retained a lawyer, Mark Clausen of Seattle. Clausen said that for now he's working "up the chain of command" of the locally based military to see if he can find relief for his client that way, before pursuing other legal remedies.
He began by sending a letter this week to Col. Michael McCaffree of the 81st Brigade Combat Team at Camp Murray in Tacoma, Latson's unit. The letter was copied to 14 other officers in Seattle and Tacoma.
A Pentagon spokesman declined comment Friday.
Latson said that regardless of whether he gets the money promised him, he's made one decision. He plans to quit the military long before retirement age.
"I'm to the point now where I want to get out," he said. "I'm just really disappointed."
P-I reporter Sam Skolnik can be reached at 206-448-8334 or [email]samskolnik@seattlepi.com[/email].
After reading this ration of shit, I can only write that if anyone were to come up to me and ask me if I thought he should go into the Army or Marines, I wouldn't just say "no", but "hell, no, not until the present collection of sons of bitches we have running the executive branch are out of office".
This story came out around a month ago and one would have thought that someone with some sense would have canned this idiotic idea on the grounds that this is a promise that needs to kept not only because these troops re-enlisted in good faith, but failure to honor this would play hell with retention and recruitment in the future. After all the billions the CPA has pissed away in Iraq, here you have some folks all of the sudden concerned about money. Someone deserves to have their ass reamed for this.
Yeah, they really "support the troops". My ass.
2005-11-06 08:56 | User Profile
That means that many will not reenlist and that's kind of stupid because it cost a hell of a lot more than $15,000 to train a recruit and to give him an MOS, not counting the experience that the troops already have.
Alltogether is cost the Army around a quarter of a mill between all the schoolings and trainning that they gave me......not counting the civilian outfit that gave me more trainning while on TDY with them.
2005-11-06 14:19 | User Profile
Ponce,
That's right. Penny wise and pound foolish is another way I view this. They seem to view trained troops as used condoms to be flushed away when done.
2005-11-06 18:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER [url]http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/247264_guardx05.html[/url]
Guardsman re-enlists, Pentagon kills bonus
Officers from state try to restore $15,000 benefit
==================== [I][B]After reading this ration of shit, I can only write that if anyone were to come up to me and ask me if I thought he should go into the Army or Marines, I wouldn't just say "no", but "hell, no, not until the present collection of sons of bitches we have running the executive branch are out of office".
This story came out around a month ago and one would have thought that someone with some sense would have canned this idiotic idea on the grounds that this is a promise that needs to kept not only because these troops re-enlisted in good faith, but failure to honor this would play hell with retention and recruitment in the future. After all the billions the CPA has pissed away in Iraq, here you have some folks all of the sudden concerned about money. Someone deserves to have their ass reamed for this.[/B][/I]
Yeah, they really "support the troops". My ass.[/QUOTE]Would the government want the money diverted from Haliburton or aid to Israel? Israel asks for more than $200,000 per Jew to move from occupied territories while an American in the military is to be denied $15,000 for enlisting for 6 years.
As ever something is really screwed up in American priorities. As ever the American media desist from reporting.
2005-11-06 18:53 | User Profile
Not to worry, Edward.
No doubt that the cream of our "democracy" and foremost "patriots" will be raising hell about this tomorrow. Of course I mean our (Neo)"Conservative" talk radio show hosts, the ones who really put themselves on the line by telling us almost daily of how much they support the troops.
Written with total sarcasm and contempt for the above people.