← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · JoseyWales

Federal court to parents - "no fundamental right"

Thread ID: 20872 | Posts: 12 | Started: 2005-11-03

Wayback Archive


JoseyWales [OP]

2005-11-03 15:51 | User Profile

[url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47195[/url]


Texas Dissident

2005-11-03 16:20 | User Profile

With rulings like this I wonder how long the Southern Baptist Convention will continue to officially endorse public schooling for its members.


Angler

2005-11-03 16:37 | User Profile

How can parents not have a fundamental right to determine what their kids are or aren't taught in school? Or where does the government -- in other words, perfect strangers -- get the right to decide what other peoples' kids learn or don't learn?

This is another example that shows what an atrocious, statist mess Americans have allowed their country to become. Now everyone can just sit back and wait until the day when all children are removed from parental custody at an early age and made to attend government boarding schools, where they'll receive 24-hour-per-day Orwellian brainwashing.

On the other hand, maybe -- just maybe -- Americans who care about freedom and small, nonintrusive government will finally get off their asses and say "NO" to the tyrants. And maybe they'll be willing to back it up with bullets, if it comes to that.


jeffersonian

2005-11-03 16:51 | User Profile

[QUOTE]The lower court had ruled against the parents, saying the right "to control the upbringing of their children by introducing them to matters of and relating to sex [B]in accordance with their personal and religious values [/B]and beliefs" does not rise to the level of a fundamental right protected by substantive due process.[/QUOTE] There you have it. The court now has mandated that a parents religious values, insofar as raising their children is concerned, are on a par with the outdated notions of American culture, national soveriegnty, and private property rights. How long befor the state begins taking children from the home of parents who do not buy into the politically correct, cultural diversity, pro-homosexual agenda in order to properly indoctrinate them?


random

2005-11-03 17:49 | User Profile

This is precisely the sort of thing that conservatives for decades have been asking the courts not to get involved in. The parents should take it up with the school board and local legislatures or put their kids in private schools.

I can tell you one Supreme Court justice, if it reaches that level, that will certainly vote to affirm at least on the fundament rights point--Scalia. He doesn't believe in fundamental rights. He doesn't even believe a parent has a right to home school his children or send them to private school.


JoseyWales

2005-11-03 18:30 | User Profile

Josey Wales to Federal court...

[img]http://www.chiprowe.com/images/mickey.jpg[/img]


Angeleyes

2005-11-04 03:32 | User Profile

[quote=JoseyWales][URL="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47195"]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47195[/URL]

One, it's the ninth circuit, sorry, Ninth Circus, so is this any surprise?

Two, home schooling has been growing in popularity for some time now. Looks like it just got another free advertisement.

AE


Stanley

2005-11-04 16:00 | User Profile

If we actually lived in something like the Old Republic, I would agree with this ruling. This should be a state issue, not one for the federal courts.


Angeleyes

2005-11-05 03:18 | User Profile

[quote=Stanley]If we actually lived in something like the Old Republic, I would agree with this ruling. This should be a state issue, not one for the federal courts.

It ought to be a school board issue, and with the questions asked, I wonder if someone was fishing so they could call Child Protective Services and steal a young child from his or her parents.

I better stop, this kind of crap just makes me sick.

AE


Gabrielle

2005-11-05 12:05 | User Profile

America’s number ONE problem today is activist judges; they are the major threat to our liberty.


Angeleyes

2005-11-05 16:10 | User Profile

[quote=Gabrielle]America’s number ONE problem today is activist judges; they are the major threat to our liberty.

While the 9th Circuit is particularly screwed up, it wasn't a judge to implemented the policy in the elementary school that so upset the parents.

It was some over educated, neurotic, eltist, ivory tower fool bred by the university system that produces teachers. THAT is the single most infected organ of our society, and we'll never heal until that cancerous tumor is removed. The poisoning of young minds by the premise of victimhood is worth fighting against at the local level.

"Get them while they're young, Evita, get them while they're young."

AE


Gabrielle

2005-11-05 17:15 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Angeleyes]While the 9th Circuit is particularly screwed up, it wasn't a judge to implemented the policy in the elementary school that so upset the parents.

It was some over educated, neurotic, eltist, ivory tower fool bred by the university system that produces teachers. THAT is the single most infected organ of our society, and we'll never heal until that cancerous tumor is removed. The poisoning of young minds by the premise of victimhood is worth fighting against at the local level.

"Get them while they're young, Evita, get them while they're young."

AE[/QUOTE]

Excellent point, Angeleyes.