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Thread ID: 20584 | Posts: 30 | Started: 2005-10-09
2005-10-09 19:20 | User Profile
It may surprise you, but both John Kerry and Ted Kennedy believe Kerry is the frontrunner for the Democratic nod in 2008.
If the pair had any prayer of this, their hopes have been dashed with the release of a new documentary film made during John Kerry's presidential campaign.
Pundits say it has torpedoed any remaining chance he has of running for the White House again.
Kerry allowed filmmaker Steve Rosenbaum to film the inner workings of the Kerry campaign and what Kerry's team believed would be a victorious run for the presidency.
Now Rosenbaum has released the documentary, "Inside the Bubble" - and Democrats are likely to give it a decisive thumbs-down.
"The film has made such painful viewing that many Democratic insiders - especially those close to rival 2008 candidates - feel Kerry's hopes of the White House have been forever ended," The Guardian newspaper reports.
Unflattering clips from the film show Kerry pretending to interview himself, and babbling in Italian as he waited for a real interview to begin.
Senior aides are shown cursing and shouting at reporters. One shot shows Hillary Clinton rolling her eyes after Kerry slips up during a TV debate against George Bush.
In a bizarre moment, top Kerry aide Jim Loftus rants about an advance team's inability to get a pony into a hotel room for a birthday celebration.
He fumes: "When I was an advance guy, if someone said ?get a pony on the 10th floor of this hotel in four hours' ... I would have said: ?What color eyes should it have?'"
On election day, as early exit polls pointed to a Kerry victory, Loftus hands over the data and remarks: "They have a word for that, and they usually write it in big black print on the front of newspapers and they call it a (expletive deleted) landslide." Another aide comments: "I hear they are crying in the White House."
Bush went on to win by three million votes.
The Guardian states: "There is little doubt that many Democrats (or many potential Democratic voters) will watch the film in horror. The impression is of a campaign and a candidate who did not really know where it was going or trying to say."
NewsMax.com
2005-10-09 20:08 | User Profile
Who cares? Few, if anyone on this board does.
2005-10-09 20:43 | User Profile
Dittos, Sert. To use a term with which Gabby is undoubtedly very familiar... :D
2005-10-09 22:23 | User Profile
If Kerry doesn't run, some other Marxist idiot will run in his place. And you can be pretty sure any Republican who runs will be a scumbag neocon as well.
Both Democrats and Republicans are the problem. Each is nearly as bad as the other, only in somewhat different ways.
2005-10-10 00:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Who cares? Few, if anyone on this board does.[/QUOTE]
LOL! You are certainly in a jolly good mood lately,Sertorius. :taz:
2005-10-10 11:04 | User Profile
[img]http://img.slate.msn.com/media/1/123125/123054/2114261/2125493/050930_pol_ITB_poster.jpg[/img]
[url]http://slate.msn.com/id/2127242/[/url]
[url]http://blogs.indiewire.com/steve.rosenbaum/archives/005922.html[/url]
This is a blatant scam by the Republican Party to smear John Kerry. JOHN KERRY WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT. George Bush and the Republicans are a bunch of lying, cheating, stealing idiots. They will do anything to bring an honest Democrat down. You can cheat a good man out of something (like George Bush did), but you can't keep him down forever. Real John Kerry supporters will know that this movie is a scam on the part of the Republicans. BostonBobby JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008!
I believe also that this is a Republication assault on the Democratic Party. Nobody could do a worse job running our country than George Bush is doing right now. Is your life better now than it was 5 years ago? 10 years ago? We are in a war we can't win. Bush could care less about the environment and the poor people in our country. And his IQ is the lowest of any president in history.
It boggles the mind that Kerry, let alone the Democratic Party, would CONSIDER another Kerry run at the White House. The left should reflect on how much money and nation wide effort they spend on dividing the country and regaining "leadership", and then ask themselves how GWB still managed to win. Here is a clue; The nation is not liberal, it is conservative, and needs leadership, not division.
Posted at 9:19 AM ET on Oct 3, 2005 by D. Lee Hackle 0 stars
"Hi, I'm John Kerry, and I approved this message after I disapproved this message, before I approved this message."
Neither was the massive organized voter fraud, largely by the Unions in the big cities, enough to win.
2005-10-10 12:17 | User Profile
Whether this documentary existed or not, John Kerry is damaged goods. He wouldn't have a chance in hell for 2008.
2005-10-10 13:50 | User Profile
No, Adam, he doesn't. The only reason for stories like this is to keep the rank and file of the Stupid Party stirred up over something that doesn't amount to a damn thing. Focusing on nonsense likes this keeps them from realizing just how corrupt and treasonous their own party is.
2005-10-10 19:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle] [url="http://slate.msn.com/id/2127242/"]http://slate.msn.com/id/2127242/[/url] [url="http://blogs.indiewire.com/steve.rosenbaum/archives/005922.html"]http://blogs.indiewire.com/steve.rosenbaum/archives/005922.html[/url] JOHN KERRY WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT. George Bush and the Republicans are a bunch of lying, cheating, stealing idiots. They will do anything to bring an honest Democrat down. [/QUOTE] ANd so one.
Don't look back, Gabrielle, look forward.
AE
2005-10-11 17:10 | User Profile
I think the point is that even in these dark days of one-party government, the Democrats stand out as being particularly degenerate. I mean, take a hard look at these people...its really quite shocking, even to my cynical eyes.
2005-10-11 19:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes]1. There is no such thing as an honest Democrat in Congress.
2. There is no such thing as an honest Republican in Congress.[/QUOTE]I agree, but with one notable exception: Rep. Ron Paul of Texas. He calls himself a Republican, but he's really a Republican in name only. The other members of Congress aren't worthy to eat the dirt he walks on.
[url]http://www.house.gov/paul/[/url]
2005-10-11 21:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Who cares? Few, if anyone on this board does[/QUOTE]
I think it's fascinating. More evidence of how delusional those at the top of both parties are. Totally out of touch with real people and the real world.
2005-10-11 22:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE]I agree, but with one notable exception: Rep. Ron Paul of Texas. He calls himself a Republican, but he's really a Republican in name only. The other members of Congress aren't worthy to eat the dirt he walks on.[/QUOTE] I would agree about Paul, seems to be someone who walks the walk. I would also include Tancredo.
2005-10-13 03:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angler]I agree, but with one notable exception: Rep. Ron Paul of Texas. He calls himself a Republican, but he's really a Republican in name only. The other members of Congress aren't worthy to eat the dirt he walks on.
[url="http://www.house.gov/paul/"]http://www.house.gov/paul/[/url][/QUOTE] Ron Paul is a conservative, true enough, so I guess he is being honest in calling himself a Republican, since he probably wants to be one of those who reforms the party along less inane lines. I just hope he stays around and is not made a target, internally, by the Republican Loyalty police. :furious:
AE
2005-10-13 13:08 | User Profile
Deciding who is worse between Democrat and Republican is indeed a juicy topic. As a White man I have a stone-washed contempt for Democrats, but the Pubbies are sacrificing young men, in a time of small families, for the profit of Jews and corporations. I think the maximum prize for bad government has to go to the GOP.
2005-10-15 12:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]Deciding who is worse between Democrat and Republican is indeed a juicy topic. As a White man I have a stone-washed contempt for Democrats, but the Pubbies are sacrificing young men, in a time of small families, for the profit of Jews and corporations. I think the maximum prize for bad government has to go to the GOP.[/QUOTE]
The Democrats are a million times worse than the Republicans!!!
Nevertheless, this is our only true hope….
2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2005-10-15 13:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Nevertheless, this is our only true hopeââ¬Â¦. [/QUOTE] What, the Republicans!?! The Stupid Party our only true hope? :biggrin: :holiday: Surely you jest...:jester:
We're doomed.:cry:
2005-10-15 15:37 | User Profile
I don't think running someone who's already lost has ever been a popular course of action - most registered Rerpublicans dreaded Reagan getting the nomination in '80, it was the non-Repubs who put him over the top in November.
These days, I would think Presidential campaigns are too damned expensive to risk running someone who's [I]already [/I]been handed his lunch. And Harold Stassen's dead.
2005-10-15 16:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]The Democrats are a million times worse than the Republicans!!!
Nevertheless, this is our only true hopeââ¬Â¦.
2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Gabrielle, I despise the Republicans but I Hate the Democrats, but nevertheless, both parties are beyond bankrupt, they are active enemies of our community, which they can't see destroyed soon enough, and this is because of Jew money, White greed, apathy and individualism. I really don't think it has a lot to do with sinning per se, but I could be wrong.
2005-10-15 19:33 | User Profile
Not being an American, I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I do find it annoying that the media will often just declare in a know-it-all tone that a particular political candidate is "finished" as if that's the end of the matter and the confirmation of the media's pick by the voters is just a mere rubber-stamping formality. Why not just get rid of democratic elections and let the media bosses pick the leaders then? Oh, wait a minute....
2005-10-15 23:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE=jeffersonian]I would agree about Paul, seems to be someone who walks the walk. I would also include Tancredo.[/QUOTE]Ron Paul adheres to an interpretation of the US Constitution that has not been viable since 1860. He's a wonderful anachronism.
Tancredo is the only voice of sanity on the illegal immigration invasion, but he has some worrisome neo-con-ish tendencies in that he takes at face value the neo-con "war on terrorism" and advocates anti-arab, anti-moslem foreign policy notions that don't jibe with our immigration problems - we aren't Europe and the vast bulk of our current illegal immigrants are not moslems. So Tancredo is either naive or opportunistic in following the neo-con foreign policy line. His outspoken stance against immigration puts him in a virtual minority of one, though, so he's still better than most of the rest of Congress.
Depressing - only two members of Congress who it is possible to say positive things about. The rest: total sell outs and time servers.
2005-10-16 05:00 | User Profile
there are a few others in the house, but one has to go past the idea that the pol has to be in 99% agreement with one. 75% is as good as it gets. as few as a half dozen. one from TN is quite good... maybe gene taylor (ms)...
used to be maybe i liked thurmond in the senate and that was it. now, maybe larry craig. the senate and exec branch are shitty-little-country-occupied-territory.
2005-10-16 13:32 | User Profile
Bardamu, the Jews could never do what they are doing if we loved and ** feared ** Jesus. God said if you love Me, obey Me. God’s laws are our shield; they were given to Israel for Israel’s sake. Our enemies understand this, and that is why they work so diligently to make Christianity look stupid and wicked.
God is no fool – God is not mocked!
2005-10-16 13:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]What, the Republicans!?! The Stupid Party our only true hope? :biggrin: :holiday: Surely you jest...:jester:
We're doomed.:cry:[/QUOTE]
Sertorius, what is up with you lately? :confused:
2005-10-16 15:26 | User Profile
[quote=Gabrielle]Sertorius, what is up with you lately? :confused:
Could it be that dealing with betrayal brings out the bitter in a man?
AE
2005-10-17 03:45 | User Profile
Kerry shouldn't run again because the fact he couldn't beat Bush, a guy who America hated, the first time was pathetic. America hated Bush, but America hated Kerry even more. And then he idiotically didn't respond to the Swift Boat smears. Not the way to win an election. He had his chance and he blew it.
2005-10-17 03:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=van helsing]there are a few others in the house, but one has to go past the idea that the pol has to be in 99% agreement with one. 75% is as good as it gets. as few as a half dozen. one from TN is quite good... maybe gene taylor (ms)...
used to be maybe i liked thurmond in the senate and that was it. now, maybe larry craig. the senate and exec branch are shitty-little-country-occupied-territory.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but apart from Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo, none of them even reach my 75% threshhold. You mention some people I've never heard of.....if I haven't heard of them, I doubt their positive contributions to the Republic are all that much to write home about. Merely being "inoffensive" or "better than the others" doesn't put them over my 75% mark. It doesn't even put them over my 50% mark. Men like Strom Thurmond or Jesse Helms were okay as reactionaries but were more liked for the hatred they generated from our enemies than for any positive contributions of their own; they only survived in the system in the first place because they knew how to work the system, pork barrels and all.
2005-10-17 03:56 | User Profile
And btw, if these things actually effected elections, then Michael Moore's would have put Kerry over top but I don't think anybody actually cares, or at least not enough people care to make a difference.
2005-10-17 10:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=kane123123]Kerry shouldn't run again because the fact he couldn't beat Bush, a guy who America hated, the first time was pathetic. America hated Bush, but America hated Kerry even more. And then he idiotically didn't respond to the Swift Boat smears. Not the way to win an election. He had his chance and he blew it.[/QUOTE]
America didn’t hate Bush; the Left hated Bush, and we all know the Left controls Hollywood and the majority of the media.
As far as responding to the Swift Boats ‘smears’ as you call them; Kerry couldn’t defend himself, as the ‘smears’ were 100% true. :oh:
2005-10-18 18:57 | User Profile
On a slow day, when watching grass grow is as good as it gets, try listening to Air America. It's guaranteed to get that ole circulation pumping big time. I heard Rosenbaum expound on "Inside the Bubble" with some Jew commentator on that radio show and it's no surprise that the show is on its last legs.
Rosenbaum claims that Kerry's aides gave Inside the Bubble producers carte blanche to film Kerry 24/7, something a savvy handler would never allow. Kerry comes off as an out-of-touch dilettante whose hair is never out of place, whose smile and demeaner are annoying at best and who lends credence to my favorite Dorothy Parker jab, "deep down inside, he's very superficial".
Remember...the worse Kerry looks, the better it is for the Hildebeast. Maybe Rosenbaum works for the Clintons.