← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · Hugh Lincoln
Thread ID: 20377 | Posts: 31 | Started: 2005-09-24
2005-09-24 16:57 | User Profile
Thread on the topic:
[url]http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=231741[/url]
In a sense (and in a way, this could be seen as a good thing) SF has become the Free Republic of white nationalism: lots and lots of folks, some pretty accepted party lines, some taboo topics that will get you censored, etc. Everybody knows the party line. But hell, that's what we WANT, right?
2005-09-24 22:43 | User Profile
I can't access the thread. ?
2005-09-25 22:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=mwdallas]I can't access the thread. ?[/QUOTE]Neither can I. Logged in I get
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Sounds pretty restrictive. Like the moderators forum at FR almost.
2005-09-25 22:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln]Thread on the topic:
[url]http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=231741[/url]
That's one of the reasons I, just like JR (that only ;) )personally prefer posting text instead of links. All sorts of things can go astray with a link. Post text and its here for everybody to see, as long as the forum is there.
If Hugh or anybody else who can access that thread could post it here or some other way let us access the thread I'd be much obliged.
In a sense (and in a way, this could be seen as a good thing) SF has become the Free Republic of white nationalism: lots and lots of folks, some pretty accepted party lines, some taboo topics that will get you censored, etc. Everybody knows the party line. But hell, that's what we WANT, right?[/QUOTE]Just like I noted here.
[URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17820]Stormfront Moderation Policies[/URL]
2005-09-25 23:10 | User Profile
Stormfront is 90% juvenile blather from wannabe nazis and wannabe Germans...:hitler:
8814...and the square root of 49 times 2...
2005-09-26 00:15 | User Profile
You have the percentages wrong. Most of the posts there have nothing to do with Germans or nazis. It is true there are a lot of young people, oh well, at least they are young people getting involved in nationalism.
I go there and read interesting threads all the time.
What sites, other than OD, would you recommend?
2005-09-26 00:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]You have the percentages wrong. Most of the posts there have nothing to do with Germans or nazis. It is true there are a lot of young people, oh well, at least they are young people getting involved in nationalism.
I go there and read interesting threads all the time.
What sites, other than OD, would you recommend?[/QUOTE]Oh sure. It is the same way with most forums. Most FR posts for instance are intelligent (at least a fair percentage) and a lot of the rest are just the normal verbal chat/noise.
Its the really exceptional ones, one either end, that stand out, and especially the way they're treated by the moderators.
FR for instance you can make a stupid mindless attack on someone's neocon criticisms, and of course you won't get banned - the target of your pique will. I have muh less experience with SF, but I've seen the same thing appear to be happening. It is these instances that stick in your mind. And they set the tone of the board, the same way people who push the envelope always do.
2005-09-26 01:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]You have the percentages wrong. Most of the posts there have nothing to do with Germans or nazis. It is true there are a lot of young people, oh well, at least they are young people getting involved in nationalism.
I go there and read interesting threads all the time.
What sites, other than OD, would you recommend?[/QUOTE] I don't think we have had a good discussion of German Wonder Weapons of World War Two recently...that's always good to get the blood flowing...what do you post as on Stormfront...King Tiger on the 88's...Seig Heil...:wacko:
2005-09-26 01:15 | User Profile
What sites do you recommend?
2005-09-26 01:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]What sites do you recommend?[/QUOTE] The quality of discussion on OD is pretty good...the quality of discussion on Stromfront and VNN Forum has a lot to be desired. Sort of like the guy who gets pissed off at the bar tender, and goes to the next saloon until he gets pissed of at the bartender, and goes to the next saloon...
I try to make time for Business Week & business news, the national news magazines and the national daily newspapers, a number of state and regional papers---not necessarily the region I live in either.
I do like Alex Linder's courage---but---the time for being radical for the sake of being radical is long past. David Duke seems to be on a serious track after his prosecution and prison. Taylor of AmRen if he ever gets the courage to criticize the jews a little---will be worth reading more often. Vdare and Charley Reese are always good read. Pat Buchanan, and Al Gore if he ever breaks with the jew influence/ money...Barbara Erhenreich is worth reading...no she is not a jew...her maiden name was Alexander and she was born in Tennessee...Joe Guzzardi an Italian Stallion with something to say...Leftoid Mike Davis writes really good political prose...too bad his current interest is a Latrina...Dr. Creighton...Tom Frank & the Bafflers...H.L Mencken...Kevin Phillips...Edward Gibbon...Michael Grant...The Founding Fathers...:whlch:
2005-09-26 02:23 | User Profile
I like to bounce through SF on a regular basis. I actually enjoy reading what skinheads, KKK, and the younger nationalists have to say, and you make a mistake characterizing all of stormfront, or even the largest percentage of it,as people who talk about goofy stuff like Nazis secret weapons, in fact the moderators would no doubt lock such a thread. Anyway, to each is own, it doesn't matter to me if you like stormfront, it is a little offputting when you blatantly mischaracterize it. So far a VNN goes, there is some truly humorous threads over there from time to time, which is what I go for.
2005-09-26 02:35 | User Profile
What's there to gain in these squables about whose approach is right and who's better? Every layer of society should be represented, and everyone expresses oneself according to one's level of education, intelligence and life experiences. The more the merrier. I'd rather see thousands of Stormfront and VNN forums and the attitude they represent, than only sterile opinion of elite thinkers. You need sheer biomass to defend against alien biomasses.
2005-09-26 02:59 | User Profile
Biomass of [I]both[/I] sexes, which stormfront manages to draw. There are a lot of couples who met posting on that site. 88. :gunsmilie
2005-09-26 03:30 | User Profile
It was on the first page.
[url]http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=203794[/url]
2005-09-29 14:17 | User Profile
Does anybody have a clue what this was about?
Hugh? Franco?
2005-09-29 18:17 | User Profile
Great to see you again, Tex! Did you survive the hurricane well? :)
Petr
2005-09-29 20:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr]Great to see you again, Tex! Did you survive the hurricane well? :)
Petr[/QUOTE]
Hello Petr. Thanks for the greeting.
We had a pretty good scare last Wednesday/Thursday, but all said and done, yes we came through the hurricane very well. All of my family in the area is ok and suffered no long-term, serious damage.
Of course the good folks in Beaumont, east Texas and southwest Louisiana were not nearly so lucky.
I've been through a category 3 hurricane before back in 1983, but even though this one missed Houston proper, there was a surreal experience about Rita that I am sure had to do with the mass evacuation. I'm thinking of putting something together about lessons learned in natural disasters, urban survival and the like, if I can get the time.
Tks again and rgds,
Jason
2005-09-30 02:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Hello Petr. Thanks for the greeting.
[/QUOTE] I see you've gotten your fill of Heine's.:cheers:
2005-09-30 06:25 | User Profile
Texas gets their fair share of hurricanes, of course, but I can't recall one hitting Houston head-on before. Was Rita the first, or were there others in years past?
2005-09-30 10:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Texas gets their fair share of hurricanes, of course, but I can't recall one hitting Houston head-on before. Was Rita the first, or were there others in years past?[/QUOTE]
When talking of hurricanes and greater Houston/Galveston, generally 3 hurricanes are mentioned as particularly noteworthy: 1) the infamous 1900 Galveston hurricane, 2) Carla in '61 (hit further south on the coastline, but was huge like Rita and a category 5), and 3) Alicia in '83.
One recent one that wasn't a hurricane, but rather a tropical storm was Allison in 2001 or [url=http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/special/01/flood/index09.html]The Great Flood of 2001[/url]. That one dumped up to 35 inches of rain in one day in large parts of Harris County and happened to flood out my grandmother's house, which in the previous 40 years or so had never flooded before.
[url]http://www.chron.com/content/news/photos/01/06/09/staff/paddle.html[/url]
2005-09-30 11:55 | User Profile
Galveston I knew, but I had no idea it was so close to Houston. Always thought Galveston was almost an island of sorts and Hsn a lot further inland.
2005-09-30 16:19 | User Profile
Galveston is and island, but it's only a couple of miles offshore at its farthest point. Depending on what you consider "Houston" the city is only about 30 miles from the coast. Downtown is probably more like 45-50, but it would still be in for a pounding if a Cat 5 came ashore in a direct hit.
2005-09-30 22:25 | User Profile
Tex,
Glad to hear that your family & yourself are all OK. Thank God for looking out for you.
2005-10-11 04:31 | User Profile
I'm pretty frustrated with Stormfront. I registered there and managed to make 1 post, but now whenever I try and post it says my posts have been "held for moderation" and they never show up. I'm unaware what, if any guidelines I've broken. I wrote a big post on amateur video editing and posted it to their eActivism thread but I clicked "post" and it just disappeared.
Stormfront is not worth the effort. Just browsing through, it seems like a lot of their members seem to be rather sub-par intellectually, if I can get away with such an elitist comment.
Stick with OD instead :thumbsup:
2005-10-11 06:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]I'm pretty frustrated with Stormfront. I registered there and managed to make 1 post, but now whenever I try and post it says my posts have been "held for moderation" and they never show up. I'm unaware what, if any guidelines I've broken. I wrote a big post on amateur video editing and posted it to their eActivism thread but I clicked "post" and it just disappeared. Yes, I don't know Roddy, but your experience mirrors mine. It appears that SF is operating as an exclusive club now, which just does not accept unsolicited posts from newbies unless they have been vetted by the moderators in some way. Sort of like joining a political party (Nazi Party anyone? :hitler:, :hitler:.) I get the impression they especially don't like people with fresh new perspectives. And as my thread showed, they also don't like criticism of their moderation policies. Most definitely.
Stormfront is not worth the effort. Just browsing through, it seems like a lot of their members seem to be rather sub-par intellectually, if I can get away with such an elitist comment. My impression also. I suspect it might help to get attached if one just matched a usual low grade discussion, but that's not why you and I generally try to post at forums. We'd like to try something new, not just reminesce over the glory days of old.
Stick with OD instead :thumbsup:[/QUOTE]:thumbsup:
2005-10-14 04:44 | User Profile
SF certainly has a very different vibe and clientele from OD. Give Don Black his due, though, as one of a handful of folks who saw from its inception the real community-building potential of the Web.
2005-10-15 00:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]I'm pretty frustrated with Stormfront. I registered there and managed to make 1 post, but now whenever I try and post it says my posts have been "held for moderation" and they never show up. I'm unaware what, if any guidelines I've broken. I wrote a big post on amateur video editing and posted it to their eActivism thread but I clicked "post" and it just disappeared.[QUOTE=Okiereddust]......
My impression also. I suspect it might help to get attached if one just matched a usual low grade discussion, but that's not why you and I generally try to post at forums. We'd like to try something new, not just reminesce over the glory days of old.
:thumbsup:[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] I see you [URL="http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=2255808&postcount=10"]took my advice[/URL] Rowdy :lol: I might have to try it myself.
I am tempted to rake all the members over the coals as to why their favorite color in most cases is something other than white, but I'll maybe I'll just have to bite my tongue :wink:
Note also the [URL="http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=2255791&postcount=6"]OD reference by Don[/URL] on the thread. :wink:
2005-10-18 01:34 | User Profile
[quote=Okiereddust]I see you [URL="http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=2255808&postcount=10"]took my advice[/URL] Rowdy :lol: I might have to try it myself.
I am tempted to rake all the members over the coals as to why their favorite color in most cases is something other than white, but I'll maybe I'll just have to bite my tongue :wink:
Note also the [URL="http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=2255791&postcount=6"]OD reference by Don[/URL] on the thread. :wink: Heh. :lol:
I think they disallowed "white" as a selection because then everyone would choose it, just like everyone wanted to be "Mr Black" in Reservoir Dogs.
In any case, I think my short but sweet Stormfront career is over. I did a post about my idea for an ethnic flag for White NZers and got a whole lot of replies asking me what was wrong with the current national flag. Some guy also told me I wasn't a White Nationalist because I said I accept the right of other groups like NZ Maori and Polynesians to their own ethnic self-determination. Then I got an email from a mod telling me I was "confused" and my posts were deleted from the "Stormfront Downunder" forum. Well, that whole experience was a waste of my time...
2005-10-18 02:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]Heh. :lol:
I think they disallowed "white" as a selection because then everyone would choose it, just like everyone wanted to be "Mr Black" in Reservoir Dogs. Yes, but you still could express your admiration in the comments section.
In any case, I think my short but sweet Stormfront career is over. I did a post about my idea for an ethnic flag for White NZers and got a whole lot of replies asking me what was wrong with the current national flag. Some guy also told me I wasn't a White Nationalist because I said I accept the right of other groups like NZ Maori and Polynesians to their own ethnic self-determination. Then I got an email from a mod telling me I was "confused" and my posts were deleted from the "Stormfront Downunder" forum. Well, that whole experience was a waste of my time...[/QUOTE]Well don't say we didn't warn you Rowdy.
You certainly must have seem confused to them at SF. Golly, you didn't even spin the swastika the right way! :lol:
Of course, you could say that just like weather systems rotate thewrong way down under, so do swastika's and even the people are a little confused :wink:
2005-11-06 18:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Does anybody have a clue what this was about?
Hugh? Franco?[/QUOTE]
I was linking to an SF thread where OD was the topic of discussion. It couldn't be read by some because it's in the "Sustaining Members" section of SF, which you need to pony up for (I'd forgotten about this when I did the link.)
Anyway, as one who posts both places and likes both places, I thought getting a little cross-germination was a good idea. OD, more of the trad-con, no swastika avatars. SF, bigger audience, maybe someone there will come here and vice-versa.
Come together, brothers.
2005-11-06 21:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln]I was linking to an SF thread where OD was the topic of discussion. It couldn't be read by some because it's in the "Sustaining Members" section of SF, which you need to pony up for (I'd forgotten about this when I did the link.) "Some" is very few if any. One of the reasons forrums like you to post the text of interst, rather than just a link, which are so error-prone and transient.
Or if cause for some reaso you don't like to post the whole thing, just a succinct summary can be of value.
Anyway, as one who posts both places and likes both places, I thought getting a little cross-germination was a good idea. OD, more of the trad-con, no swastika avatars. SF, bigger audience, maybe someone there will come here and vice-versa.
Come together, brothers.[/QUOTE]Well we are different obviously, but some of the trends of our emerging line, especially as it relates to the hard-line we have evolved on neo-con/jewish ? in general. might suggest a little cross-germination as you suggest could do a lot, and that it might be good to try and examine some of the details again, as we've had in the past with people like Triskelion/"Vibeke". The devil here though is always in the details.