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Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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vytis [OP]

2005-09-17 19:22 | User Profile

"This crafty race (Jews) has one great principle: as long as order prevails, there is nothing to be gained." ~Goethe~


Petr

2005-09-17 19:26 | User Profile

Here's one anti-romantic poem by Goethe that German nationalists usually don't like to quote:

[url]http://www.schillerinstitute.org/transl/trans_goethe.html#America[/url] [COLOR=Blue] [FONT=Arial] [SIZE=5]America, You've Got it Better[/SIZE] [B] By Johann Wolfgang von Goethe[/B]

[I]Translation by Daniel Platt[/I][B]

America, you've got it better Than our old continent. Exult! You have no decaying castles And no basalt. Your heart is not troubled, In lively pursuits, By useless old remembrance And empty disputes.

So use the present day with luck! And when your child a poem writes, Protect him, with his skill and pluck, From tales of bandits, ghosts and knights.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

In German:

[I]"Amerika, du hast es besser als unser Kontinent, der alte, hast keine verfallenen Schlösser und keine Basalte. Dich stört nicht im Innern zu lebendiger Zeit unnützes Erinnern und vergeblicher Streit."[/I]


Bardamu

2005-09-17 21:03 | User Profile

Goethe lived long before the war between America and Western Civilization so his words aren't relevant to German nationalism.


OttoR

2005-09-17 21:07 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Petr]Here's one anti-romantic poem by Goethe that German nationalists usually don't like to quote:

[url="http://www.schillerinstitute.org/transl/trans_goethe.html#America"]http://www.schillerinstitute.org/transl/trans_goethe.html#America[/url] [color=blue] [font=Arial] [size=5]America, You've Got it Better[/size]

By Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Translation by Daniel Platt

America, you've got it better Than our old continent. Exult! You have no decaying castles And no basalt. Your heart is not troubled, In lively pursuits, By useless old remembrance And empty disputes.

So use the present day with luck! And when your child a poem writes, Protect him, with his skill and pluck, From tales of bandits, ghosts and knights.[/font][/color]

In German:

"Amerika, du hast es besser als unser Kontinent, der alte, hast keine verfallenen Schlösser und keine Basalte. Dich stört nicht im Innern zu lebendiger Zeit unnützes Erinnern und vergeblicher Streit."[/QUOTE] Petr, your blatant Slavic Shovenism seems to dominate all of your political thoughts.


Petr

2005-09-17 21:14 | User Profile

[COLOR=DarkRed][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "Petr, your blatant Slavic Shovenism seems to dominate all of your political thoughts."[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

Oh qute, another boor giving bad name for German nationalists. Have you already met Mentzer? :tongue:

Btw, I'm Finnish, not Slavic. "Petr" is my [I]nom de plume[/I].

Petr


Bardamu

2005-09-17 21:18 | User Profile

Petr's feeling a little cranky today.


Petr

2005-09-17 21:19 | User Profile

Little do you know me, I'm actually feeling quite merry right now.

:smile:

Petr


Bardamu

2005-09-17 21:46 | User Profile

I'm feeling upbeat myself because I just completed reloading my computer, even though I did miss a major antiwar rally downtown.


vytis

2005-09-18 00:40 | User Profile

As I view the last six replies to my post Petr, I have to give you credit...Your good...Real good!

Moving my post way, way, off topic was slick. A classic fifth column Jew maneuver.


Petr

2005-09-18 12:14 | User Profile

[COLOR=DarkRed][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "Moving my post way, way, off topic was slick. A classic fifth column Jew maneuver."[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

Oh [I]puhleeze[/I]. What pitiful two-bit paranoia.

Frankly there was very little in your tiny post to comment about, so I decided to lighten things up.

Btw, why are you quoting Walter Rauschenbusch, one of the pioneers of the heretical liberal "social gospel"? What sinister motives could you have to do [B]that[/B] for? [I] sarcasm[/I]

Petr


vytis

2005-09-18 14:22 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Petr][color=darkred][font=Arial] - "Moving my post way, way, off topic was slick. A classic fifth column Jew maneuver."[/font][/color]

Oh puhleeze. What pitiful two-bit paranoia.

Frankly there was very little in your tiny post to comment about, so I decided to lighten things up.

Btw, why are you quoting Walter Rauschenbusch, one of the pioneers of the heretical liberal "social gospel"? What sinister motives could you have to do that for?

sarcasm [/QUOTE]I stand on my statement.

Tiny post! I don't need a page full of elitist gibberish to make a point.

Rauschenbush: I don't care about his social or religious philosophy, however, I am in complete agreement with this particular statement.

Good-bye Petr


Petr

2005-09-18 14:41 | User Profile

This thread seems to have gone off the wrong foot on both sides.

Petr