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secession for hawaii ?

Thread ID: 20241 | Posts: 5 | Started: 2005-09-16

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JoseyWales [OP]

2005-09-16 11:55 | User Profile

I think this has come up before, but this time its making its way to the US senate... [url]http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=4350446&tranMode=LA[/url]

especially note the part further down:

Would this sort of thing foster harmony between native and non-native Hawaiians, as the bill's sponsors suggest? “The opposite is more likely,” says Rubellite Kawena Kinney Johnson, a local academic and prominent native opponent of the bill. “Different laws for different races” is a system with an inglorious history. It is also unconstitutional, say the bill's critics. And it could pave the way for other ethnic groups to demand new rights based on perceived historical injustices. Latinos could make a case that they would be better off had the United States not beaten Mexico in the war of 1846-48. And don't even get started on blacks.

In an unguarded moment, Mr Akaka admitted that his bill could lead to independence for native Hawaiians. Amid the ensuing uproar, he retreated, while carefully keeping that option open. The threat of secession could help the new racially-exclusive native authority squeeze more concessions out of the federal or state government.

And that still leaves the most amazing thing about the Akaka bill. It might pass.


Sertorius

2005-09-16 12:07 | User Profile

Fergit it, Josey,

There's too much oil down our way and none in Hawaii.


LlenLleawc

2005-09-16 18:12 | User Profile

[QUOTE]Hawaiians have been denied the degree of self-determination that has made Native American reservations such happy places.[/QUOTE] :lol:

[QUOTE]Latinos could make a case that they would be better off had the United States not beaten Mexico in the war of 1846-48. [/QUOTE]

Or they could be honest and make the case that they would be better off if the US had annexed Mexico City and dissolved the Mexican government.

But hey, since they think whitey is so oppresive, how 'bout we send 'em back to the Japanese; that's who would be running Hawaii if it weren't for American "Imperialism."


Happy Hacker

2005-09-16 19:43 | User Profile

Polynesians in Hawaii already get extensive racial preferences, just for not being white. When is the 14th Amendment ever applied when a white or male is being discriminated against?


van helsing

2005-10-16 04:39 | User Profile

let them go, cut them off. it is a truly socialist state anyway. start the civil war there, alternately.

it isnt like having "control" of "how are ya" has kept the chicoms from infiltrating kali (long beach) or the panama canal, now, has it? or seattle etc?