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Thread ID: 20212 | Posts: 5 | Started: 2005-09-14
2005-09-14 20:52 | User Profile
Federal Judge Declares Pledge Of Allegiance Unconstitutional [url="http://www.clickondetroit.com/education/4973102/detail.html"]http://www.clickondetroit.com/education/4973102/detail.html[/url]
SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal judge in San Francisco ruled Wednesday it is unconstitutional for public school children to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.
U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton ruled that the pledge's reference to one nation "under God" violates school children's right to be "free from a coercive requirement to affirm God."
Karlton said he's bound by precedent set by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, which ruled in 2002 that it was unconstitutional for the Pledge to be recited in public schools. [img]http://www.americanvision.org/images/michael_newdow.jpg[/img]The Supreme Court threw out that case, ruling that Sacramento atheist Michael Newdow had no standing to bring the legal action.
Newdow objected to the words "under God" in the pledge.
Newdow brought the second case to the federal court -- this time, representing unidentified parents and their children.
Wednesday's decision sets up another constitutional showdown over the pledge.
The Becket Fund, a religious rights group that is a party to the case, said it would immediately appeal the case to the San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
If the court does not change its precedent, the group would go to the Supreme Court.
2005-09-14 21:55 | User Profile
JEWdow is a publicity whore. When this all first happened a while ago his ugly mug was plastered all over tv. I think his ex-wife and even his child disagrees with this.
2005-09-14 22:18 | User Profile
The pledge has no historical pedigree, and was introduced after the War of Southern Independence to give support to the Union side of the War by the Rev. Francis Bellamy, a socialist crackpot of sorts who was a raving liberal and patriot. The under god phrase was introduced much later. As it is, the pledge embodies falsehood, submission, and is something that civilized people should not recite. The founding fathers would have been aghast at the concept of making children do so in state schools, or any other schools for that matter.
2005-09-15 04:47 | User Profile
Under God is an Eisenhour vintage addition.
Being an immature a rascal, I used to mutter "underdog" everytime we said the pledge in school because I thought it was funny . . . in fourth grade. Why can't these allegedly rebellious, up to date kids handle this today? Too pussified? Or are they and their parents so sensitive, so over sensitive, such drama queens that they have to whine? Bah, into the woodchipper with the lot of them.
It ain't mind control, it can be dealt with. Too damned easliy. AE [QUOTE=solutrian]The pledge has no historical pedigree, and was introduced after the War of Southern Independence to give support to the Union side of the War by the Rev. Francis Bellamy, a socialist crackpot of sorts who was a raving liberal and patriot. The under god phrase was introduced much later. [/QUOTE]
2005-09-15 05:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes]Under God is an Eisenhour vintage addition.
Being an immature a rascal, I used to mutter "underdog" everytime we said the pledge in school because I thought it was funny . . . in fourth grade. Why can't these allegedly rebellious, up to date kids handle this today? Too pussified? Or are they and their parents so sensitive, so over sensitive, such drama queens that they have to whine? Bah, into the woodchipper with the lot of them.
It ain't mind control, it can be dealt with. Too damned easliy. AE[/QUOTE] underdog? LOL. that is funny. I never even paid attention when I said it. I would recite it while my mind was completely on the cute boy in class,etc. I don't even care a whole lot about this, but it is annoying just mostly because of what you say. I am so tired of people who are so "offended" by everything and thinking that because they are so special that if something hurts their feelings they can just change it.:crybaby: The implications and reasons for this are much wider, but I think in the case of Newdow himself, this is all about him and his little power struggle with the ex-wife. Since I could be wrong, but I think I heard that she was rather religious.