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Thread ID: 20117 | Posts: 13 | Started: 2005-09-10
2005-09-10 09:54 | User Profile
I found the following at some pro-white site a couple of years ago. I don't remember the exact site, but I did save the article. Read and heed...
Arm Yourself, White Man
by Derek Powling
Your day will come. It may be an intruder in the middle of the night intent on theft and the rape, torture, and murder of you and your family. It may be when police raid your home to "liberate" your children after home-schooling gets outlawed and you refuse to comply. It may be when the mestizos decide to "take back Aztalan" after they repopulate enough of our Southwest. It may be when Africans decide to take "reparations" into their own hands instead of just begging for the handouts they never get enough of. It may be when UN troops arrive in your town to enforce some oppressive directive by the national government your nearly all-White state refuses to obey. Don't think, "That will never happen here" ââ¬â it is happening here.
Wake up and actually think long enough to let a few things register. Blacks hate you. The little brown invaders from South of our border hate you. Hell, the majority of the world hates you, and the government only wants your taxes and obedience. The Japanese whose cars you buy ââ¬â they hate you. Why have we forgotten the torture they inflicted on our captured servicemen? The dot-head at the convenience store hates you too. Don't just pick up a six-pack and forget that. So does the Somali driving your cab. At least we had a small taste of televised evidence of how the Somalis feel about us. We White Americans and White Europeans, who have given the world all that it has, are hated by all, and they are just biding their time to take over. You must be armed. Being armed is our only chance to keep all else in check.
Why do the mass media, our politicians, the UN, and several other groups want to pass so many laws to disarm us? Because we are a host for many parasites. The parasites are afraid we will wake up and stop playing host. They are especially afraid that we will be armed when we wake up. Parasites feed on our nation and will kill us if we let them.
Jews are the master parasite. How can that be? They make so much money off us; why would they destroy us? Because that is the parasite's nature. It is not a symbiont or a commensal organism. It is a parasite. It exists solely for its benefit, not for the mutual benefit of its host or even to coexist without doing harm to its host. It feeds until you are weak, and then happily increases its pace of feeding. It will never stop to think, "Hey, maybe I should ease up or my host will die and then I'll starve," because that train of thought does not occur to a parasite.
Perhaps you already have a hunting rifle or two and a few boxes of ammunition. This will do for the rapist, murderer, or other subhuman breaking into your home. It will even do for the lone pair of agents that show up looking to take you into custody. It sure as hell will not do for something more serious. Please read on to learn more about firearms.
Extra-Long-Range Sniper Rifles. Buying a .50 caliber long-range "super sniper" rifle has never been easier. Dozens of manufacturers offer various lines. If you plan to pick off targets from 1000 to 2000 yards away, get one of these rifles. I am not an accomplished long-range sniper and do not feel I have the qualifications to discuss these weapons or their use in detail. Considering the expense, size, weight, and relative lack of ammunition for these rifles, I think they are best left to the serious snipers out there.
Sniper Rifles. Most any scoped rifle possesses enough inherent accuracy to outperform its owner. The more powerful ones (in the area of .300 Winchester Magnum performance and above) are painful and expensive to shoot frequently. They do offer benefits in range and stopping power. I feel the choice of one of these rifles is best for the accomplished marksman or hunter. For anyone else who wants to take down targets out to and beyond 500 meters, I recommend a bolt-action .308 Winchester (a.k.a. 7.62 NATO) because it offers .30-06 performance with better accuracy, and you should always be able to find ammunition for it. Many of you already own one for a hunting rifle. Even a mediocre marksman can reliably hit man-sized targets 500 yards away with one. For more money, several models are available in varmint or tactical set up with heavy barrels, synthetic stocks, etc. These models typically shoot at or below one minute of angle (MOA, capable of putting 5 rounds in a group one inch across at 100 yards). The caveat? Once multiple targets get close, you may start feeling a little anxious armed with a bolt action rifle. I recommend adding a nice "battle rifle" to your collection. Read on.
Semiautomatic Battle Rifles. Uncle Sam has done a few things right. One is the M14/M1A rifle. It fires 7.62 NATO and uses 20-round magazines. These rifles will also allow the average marksman to reliably put down targets at 500 yards. An accomplished sniper with a M21 (fiberglass bedded stock, with high grade tolerances, and a ranging reticle scope) will put down targets out to 1000 yards. Ammo is plentiful and cheap, magazines are fairly readily available, and parts and accessories are numerous. Some guy named Fred at 1-800-979-2144 runs a business with the goal of getting people trained up and set up with their M-14s. I have nothing to do with his business, but his anti-UN and other ads in the Shotgun News seem genuine. Other 7.62 semiautomatic rifles are available. But a pre-ban HK91 will cost over twice as much. Recently, a lot of HK and FN-FAL type rifles have become available at around $500. That price is sweet for a rifle of this type. The receivers are well made in America, and the other parts range from very used to near-new imported kits. Unfortunately, the two models I bought exhibit neither the accuracy nor reliability of a real HK91 or L1A1. I could have had a top-notch Springfield Armory M1A instead of two mediocre rifles.
For less overall weight, size, and weight of ammunition, several other "battle rifle" options are out there. The AR-15/M16 family of rifles is quite popular. However, they do cost about one thousand dollars. .223 Remington/5.56 NATO ammunition will always be available, and magazines are plentiful and cheap. I can reliably put down a man-sized silhouette target at 300 meters with one using the aperture sight. A better, less-expensive 5.56 rifle is the Ruger Mini-14 family of rifles, and they cost half as much. However, magazines are a little less plentiful and a little more expensive. There are also far fewer options for accessory equipment in the Ruger line compared to the AR15-type line. [I strongly disagree that the Ruger Mini-14 is better than a Colt, Bushmaster, or other good AR-15, but that's just my opinion. -- Angler]
The AK family of rifles are inexpensive (about $300), very reliable, and easy to maintain, and the magazines are dirt cheap. Models are available in 7.62 x 39mm (a little less power than 7.62 x 51mm NATO) which is a plentiful and inexpensive ammunition, 5.56 NATO (mags are still cheap but a little harder to find), and 5.45 x 39mm (mags are cheap and easy to find, but the ammo is not as common as the others). Even with a scope, I find that my 7.62x39 AK and my 5.45x39 AK are only good for reliable, consistent, chest-sized hits out to 200-300 meters.
Shotguns. Everyone should own a high-capacity 12-gauge pump shotgun. I don't care if it is a Mossberg 500 or 590, a Remington 870, or a Winchester Defender. Get one that holds about eight rounds, and buy several hundred rounds of buckshot. A fixed stock, folding stock, or pistol grip are all fine. Just make sure you have one. Nothing will make unwanted guests leave your home faster.
Handguns. The 1911 family of .45s has never been larger. All the reputable companies make excellent .45s. Consider a Para-Ordnance high-capacity model if you can afford $100 each for magazines. Otherwise, consider Springfield, Kimber, or any of several other well-regarded brands for a standard 7-shot model.
Glocks are reliable, accurate, and damn near indestructible. Get one in 10mm, 40 S&W, .45, or 9mm and you cannot go wrong. Politics and finances may limit you to the 10-round magazines, so consider the "cheater's" rapid reload ââ¬â another loaded Glock on your other hip! To be honest, I used to want nothing to do with Glocks. I was watery-eyed back in the 80s when my military unit traded in our .45s for Beretta 9mms. Then I became a big fan of the high capacity 9mm. Then they came out with double-stacked magazine .45s! What a beautiful creation. Then came the 10mm, the only practical semiautomatic handgun round I consider superior to .45. (Basically, .44 Magnum, .50AE, and all the other "hand cannon" calibers are fine for hunting, but far from ideal for defense.) I saw no need to have anything to do with the little odd-shaped "plastic" aberrations I considered Glocks to be. A friend convinced me to try his out. I was impressed. I bought one. I have fired several thousand rounds through it without a single malfunction. It shot very accurately, was dead-on out of the box, and took minimal maintenance. I stopped cleaning it after each use to see when it would start to jam. After 5-600 rounds without cleaning and no jams, I broke down and cleaned it out of guilt.
Beretta 9mms are moderately priced, and magazines are everywhere. Not the greatest thing possible, but not a bad choice nonetheless. The gun is large and heavy for a 9mm. The standard sites and trigger pull are mediocre. All together, after shooting thousands of rounds through military M9s and hundreds of rounds though my own 92F, I admit I experienced no malfunctions. Thanks to our military, several excellent tactical accessories exist.
Revolvers are not obsolete. Overall, they are more reliable than even the best semi-autos (this is simply a matter of mechanical engineering ââ¬â fewer moving parts and fewer parts overall). .357 Magnum is still the number one "one-shot man-stopper" in all recorded handgun data. (Most of the newer handgun cartridges coming out are attempts to make .357 performance available in a semi-auto.) The drawbacks to revolvers are less capacity and longer reload time. Taurus makes an interesting 8-shot .357 revolver. A truck driver caught in the middle of rioting, violent Africans that has a pair of these under his seat probably won't end up being dragged from his vehicle and getting bricked in the head.
Feeling confused? I apologize; people could write volumes on this subject. Several other excellent options for firearms exist in addition to the relative few I mentioned above. Please consider these basic tips:
Keep firearms you already have. I donùt care if it is a lever-action .30-30 or a break-action shotgun. I don't even care if it's a single-action revolver or a single-shot rifle. If you love your .225 Winchester, .35 Whelen, or .270, keep it. My caliber recommendations are mainly based on what should be plentiful. Firearms are the "law" once society breaks down. Your scoped, bolt-action hunting or varmint rifle will make people think twice before getting very close to your property.
Stock up on ammunition now. It is cheap, readily available, and can be stored for decades. Ammunition will be the "currency" once society breaks down.
Get a semiautomatic rifle, plenty of magazines, lots of ammunition, and develop/maintain some proficiency with it. Five hundred dollars will buy you an AK-series rifle, a dozen magazines, and a case (1000 rounds) or two of ammunition.
Make sure you have a pump-action 12-gauge shotgun and ammo for it.
Get a handgun, and learn how to use it effectively.
Talk to as many knowledgeable gun owners as possible. Shoot as many firearms as possible for comparison. Consider other guns I have not mentioned.
Some other hints:
Buy extra firearms. When things get bad enough, it will be easy to persuade others to stand by your side and take one. Many bolt-action surplus rifles are dirt cheap.
As far as ammunition choices are concerned, 9mm, .45 ACP, 5.56 NATO, 7.62 NATO, and 7.62x39 are currently inexpensive and the most likely calibers to remain plentiful. When buying ammo, the cheapest will use corrosive primers and powder. This is not good for your gun. Steel-cased ammo is also cheap, but to my knowledge, only the AK series is actually designed for it. Many feel the steel cases are not optimal for other models. Berdan primed ammo is not reloadable on your home bench. Buy "non-corrosive, boxer primed, brass cased" ammunition. This ammunition will not damage your bore, will not be rough on your bolt and chamber, and is also reloadable.
Learn to reload. Ammunition is cheap enough now that it may not be worth the average shooter's time to reload, but don't count on a trip to Wal-Mart being possible when the shit really hits the fan.
Scopes, while not necessary, are a very useful accessory. You will be able to spot more targets and expand your "sphere of influence" a little.
Invest the little money it takes in the proper maintenance of your firearms. A well-maintained firearm will last for generations in your family, operate more reliably, and be more accurate.
"Pre-Ban" vs. "Post-Ban": Some options such as folding stocks, threaded barrels, etc., have become legal only on guns manufactured prior to "the ban." Most of these options are available, so go ahead and buy them. Put them in the closet and remain a law-abiding citizen. Once things heat up, go ahead and use them. You will have more things to worry about than breaking a law.
Full-Auto Sears: "Drop-in" kits are available to convert your semiautomatic rifle to fully automatic and/or selective fire. On some models you may have to drill or do other minor work to install these. Check into this before buying the parts. Owning some full-auto parts is legal. Owning a semiautomatic rifle is legal. Putting them together is not. I do not know if owning the rifle while owning the uninstalled parts is legal. Once things heat up, it is a moot point.
Silencers/Suppresors: Everything you need to make and install one is out there. They are not legal. Once things heat up. . .
Thank you for taking the time to read this information.
2005-09-10 10:40 | User Profile
Angler,
I agree, the AR is not perfect but it easier to take apart and work on. Also a Ruger Mini-14 does not cost half as much. If built from mail order parts kits an AR is likely cheaper. Also the Mini-14 has a light weight barrel not always a good thing. Also you can make a your own frame with an AR-15. AR magazines are cheaper easier to get and better than Mini-14 mags.
[QUOTE]The AR-15/M16 family of rifles is quite popular. However, they do cost about one thousand dollars. .223 Remington/5.56 NATO ammunition will always be available, and magazines are plentiful and cheap. I can reliably put down a man-sized silhouette target at 300 meters with one using the aperture sight. A better, less-expensive 5.56 rifle is the Ruger Mini-14 family of rifles, and they cost half as much. However, magazines are a little less plentiful and a little more expensive. There are also far fewer options for accessory equipment in the Ruger line compared to the AR15-type line. [I strongly disagree that the Ruger Mini-14 is better than a Colt, Bushmaster, or other good AR-15, but that's just my opinion. -- Angler][/QUOTE]
I agree with this, these are the calibers one should chose from: [QUOTE]As far as ammunition choices are concerned, 9mm, .45 ACP, 5.56 NATO, 7.62 NATO, and 7.62x39 are currently inexpensive and the most likely calibers to remain plentiful.[/QUOTE]
Also as said before I would stay away from 5.45 x 39mm guns.
2005-09-10 11:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]Also as said before I would stay away from 5.45 x 39mm guns.[/QUOTE]Because it's a weak caliber? Those 5.45 AKs are super-reliable, but unfortunately the caliber is even less potent than the 5.56. I've heard that Russian special forces generally prefer the older 7.62x39 because it's better at penetrating cover.
Yeah, I'd rather be shooting steel-core 5.56 NATO than lead-core 5.45 Russkie any day. Steel-core 7.62 NATO would be even better, but it doesn't seem to be available to civvies.
2005-09-10 18:35 | User Profile
Angler,
My main reason for staying away from 5.45 AKs is that cartridge is less common and no US made ammo. 5.45 x 39mm is somewhat less potent than 5.56 NATO and can get steel-core 5.56 NATO. Also 5.56 NATO AKââ¬â¢s are available so I would chose to go 5.56 NATO over 5.45 x 39mm.
Here is a nice one. It even has a 20" Barrel. [QUOTE]VEPR II .223 Action: Kalashnikov, Gas Operated, Piston Driven .223 Rem (5.56 NATO Chamber) Barrel Length: 20.5 Overall Length: 39.75"
[url]http://www.ak47.com/VEPR%20II%20223.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
2005-09-10 18:45 | User Profile
Shotguns and handguns would become redundant if full-auto on your "battle rifle" was legal. The luxury of picking the best tool for the job won't always be there. There's only one advantage to having many pieces: you can share with your white neighbors :gunsmilie
2005-09-11 02:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]...The luxury of picking the best tool for the job won't always be there. There's only one advantage to having many pieces: you can share with your white neighbors :gunsmilie[/QUOTE]
Yes, ive known freinds that had/have dozens of rifles in almost as many calibers. Ive also known people who owned 3 or more handguns but the only rifle was a 22lr. Neither of whom thought it very important to shoot at anything beyond 100yds, if that. Other than having a neat collection, they might be good bartering material.
A 30 caliber rifle with optics is something you want to have available and know how to use, but for all-day/every-day totin, its hard to beat something in 223 or 7.62x39 w/folding stock. My choice goes to the ar15 platform for its easy optics mounting. No more than 4X magnification should be used.
Also just as important is to be familiar with ballistics of the more common ammo. For instance, I know off the top of my head that most 308 Nato loads are going to be ~about 12 moa low @ 500yds. That translates to ~about 3 1/2 mildots below the center on a mildot scope.
:thumbsup:
2005-09-12 13:57 | User Profile
Here's my take:
1: Yes, 7.62x39 is plentiful and cheap now. But will it be after the gun shops and Wal-Marts have been gutted by looters? Or after they've been closed by Imperial troops? Like the article says, keep what guns you have now. But any new purchases should be made with current military ammo in mind, as that's what there's going to be the most of. Same goes for 7.62x54R. There's nothing wrong with it, any more than there's anything wrong with .303 British. It's just that it's going to be hard to come by under prolonged difficult conditions.
2: Yes, you should absolutely be stockpiling ammo now, as much as possible, in whatever calibers you have or intend to buy. Store it in a cool, dry location.
3: Yes, you should absolutely be reloading. It isn't hard, it isn't prohibitively expensive and it doesn't take a long time to learn. When you go to the range, pick up other people's discarded brass, clean it and put it away. Some day you'll be glad you did.
4: The Mini-14 vs. AR-15 battles are meaningless. Both of them are good weapons. The Mini has been getting steadily more expensive since I paid $400 for mine a few years back, so the price difference isn't as much of a factor any more. The significant point is that they both take military-standard ammo and both are semiauto.
5: "Pre-ban/Post-ban" isn't an issue any more.
6: Find out where the gun shows are in your area and attend them. You'll find things you wouldn't ordinarily have found and learn things you might well never have learned otherwise. At the very least, you'll be pissing off a liberal while you have a good time.
Some links:
[url]http://www.perfectunion.com/forums/index.php?showforum=8[/url]
[url]http://www.ambackforum.com/viewforum.php?f=108[/url]
[url]http://www.ambackforum.com/viewforum.php?f=112[/url]
[url]http://www.ambackforum.com/viewforum.php?f=119[/url]
[url]http://www.ambackforum.com/viewforum.php?f=118[/url]
[url]http://www.ambackforum.com/viewforum.php?f=15[/url]
2005-09-16 15:35 | User Profile
Agreed with pretty much everything said here.
Arkady has nailed it well. Spent brass has the additional bonus of being uncaring of storage conditions (as long as it's not underwater or in dirt) Just keep a couple of five gallon buckets of common military calibers around (with the lids on) and you'll be good. If you're industious, clean it up and deprime it in case-sized lots and you'd have a fine barter item.
A couple of small things I would add. The ammo availability is an issue for something like 7.62x39 or other milsurp, so if you're wedded to a caliber like that, then by all means stock up. Semi-autos blow through the ammo rapidly as I'm sure you're aware.
Another thing is to get proficient NOW. It takes a lot of practice to become decent and the last thing you'd want to do in a SHTF situation is try to learn how to shoot after looters have started to run amok. The sound of gunfire would attract undesirables like gnats at a picnic in a situation like that.
Between the Mini-14 and AR-15/M16 I would favor the latter simply because the magazines are more common and cheaper than the Mini as well as the fact that there are a lot more accessories available for the AR system, some more useful than others.
Gunshows are indeed a great place to visit. You can sometimes find unpapered guns available there by people selling one or two pieces from their personal collections. I expect that "loophole" to be closed in the not-too-distant future, so keep this avenue for acquiring a weapon in mind. However, also keep in mind that you are A) buying used, so caveat emptor and bring a light to check the bore and B) the guns will probably be a little more expensive because the sellers are usually as aware as you are of the "loophole's" utility.
Agreed also about the 5.45x39mm round. It doesn't have the brush-busting capacity of the .30 cal cartridges (and the .223/5.56mm doesn't either, don't kid yourself) but it is a pretty nasty round. Do a google search on "Afghanistan" and "poison bullet" to see what I mean. Commercial Wolf 5.45mm ammo duplicates the Russian 7N6 loading, sans steel core of course.
2005-10-04 02:27 | User Profile
I got a Glock. I am learning to shoot it.
2005-10-04 03:00 | User Profile
Is this your first gun? What do you mean by learning to shoot?
2005-10-04 03:59 | User Profile
i am from europe and i have never even seen a gun in my life little less ten shoot with one
2005-10-04 22:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]Shotguns and handguns would become redundant [B]if full-auto on your "battle rifle" was legal[/B]. The luxury of picking the best tool for the job won't always be there. There's only one advantage to having many pieces: you can share with your white neighbors :gunsmilie[/QUOTE]Indiscriminate use of ammunition has always characterized American forces. Much, much better if training stressed short bursts at close range without using sights.
2005-10-04 23:12 | User Profile
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