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2005-09-09 13:30 | User Profile
[url]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0509080205sep08,1,2178742.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true[/url]
[SIZE=5]Fearful Southerners buy firearms at torrid pace[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][I]By Lisa Anderson, Michael Martinez and Ray Quintanilla, Tribune staff reporters. Lisa Anderson reported from Baton Rouge, Michael Martinez from Mobile, Ala., and Ray Quintanilla from Chicago[/I]
[B]Published September 8, 2005[/B] [FONT=Times New Roman]
BATON ROUGE, La. -- Gun sales across the South boomed after the first reports surfaced of armed looters roaming the streets of New Orleans in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. And images of shots being fired at relief workers only elevated fears in some communities.
Now, as hundreds of thousands of people displaced from their homes are being resettled, gun store owners say they're being flooded by a demand for guns--particularly in Southern states and others where many of the hurricane victims are being relocated.
Mostly, they say, the demand is being fueled by "good people" wanting to protect their families and property. That includes some who might not otherwise purchase such weapons, they add.
Frank Pirie says his Baton Rouge store, Bowie Outfitters, is being inundated by people seeking handguns and shotguns in the storm's aftermath. "It's probably as many as we'd sell in almost a year," he said.
On Wednesday morning he sold handguns to three nurses who were working in downtown New Orleans. Pirie also gave them shooting lessons, he said.
The nurses told Pirie they were "going back into a war zone," he said. "They weren't going back without protection."
But sales are particularly brisk among men and women in Baton Rouge who are growing concerned about a wave of newcomers into their community--most of whom arrive with little more than the clothes on their back.
"They're saying this is racist, ma'am, but that's not true," said Pirie, adding that in recent days he has sold guns to both whites and blacks.
"People are just nervous. There is a certain element that was down in New Orleans that has been displaced." Among the good people, he and others fear, is a criminal element that includes drug dealers who have lost their jobs and people who steal for a living.
The FBI, which conducts criminal background checks on those wanting to buy guns, says it's too early to tell whether a surge in gun sales is taking place in Louisiana or anyplace else. In any case, there is no shortage of homeowners putting up signs that read "Looters will be shot on sight."
On the ground, there is mounting evidence to suggest firearms are a hot commodity. Take the neighborhood surrounding the Astrodome in Houston, where gun stores say they're selling at a brisk pace.
"Basically, what we are seeing is people who are just afraid," said Valde Garcia, manager of Bailey's House of Guns near the Astrodome, where thousands of Katrina's victims have been housed temporarily.
Fear has sparked a demand for firearms among those who might not otherwise want guns, Garcia said, adding that he has sold a dozen guns--mostly handguns--to Houston homeowners who did not know what else to do to ease their fears.
"What we offer is a way for people to protect themselves," he said. "Keep in mind nobody knows who these folks coming into the community are."
[B]Sales up 30%[/B]
In Mobile, at the southern Alabama chain of seven pawnshops called Eddie's Wholesale Jewelry, gun sales are up 30 percent in the wake of Katrina because area residents say they want protection from "looters and gang members" who are arriving from New Orleans, according to a chain owner and store clerks.
"Things are crazy," said Josh Collins, 25, a clerk at the Eddie's in Mobile's Critchon neighborhood. "It's just people in time of need.
"There's a lot of gang people from New Orleans. Didn't you hear they're shooting at police [in New Orleans]? The people are coming here. You've just got to be ready, you know," he said.
A favorite handgun is the .38, sold mostly to women, he said. The gun takes five rounds, is easy to load and costs less than $300, he explained.
"It's just for protection. People are trying to steal everything," Collins said.
[B]Race is hot topic[/B]
The hot topic of conversation in Eddie's pawnshop Wednesday was the race issue--whether the images of black looters in New Orleans were unfairly casting evacuees from New Orleans as potential criminals in their newly adopted communities.
An owner of the Eddie's chain, Sandra Gillespie, 45, who is white, struck up a conversation with customer Henrietta Brown, 51, who is black, when she entered the store to cash a check. About 55 percent to 60 percent of handgun buyers at the pawnshop are African-American, according to Gillespie and Collins.
"Let me ask you if it's a race issue," Gillespie asked Brown as she walked into the shop.
"No," Brown replied. "They say people are coming over here [from New Orleans] and beating people. I'm scared. It's just a bunch of sorry . . . thugs.
"It's mixed," Brown added. "No, it ain't all black. Don't put it on that," Brown told a reporter visiting the shop.
Brown, a van driver at a day-care center call Kidds Klub Academy, said she already owns a handgun.
"I got it. I'm ready," Brown said. "I'm trying to be nice, but if they come over, it's pow-pow," she said, gesturing as if she were holding a shotgun.
A 20-year-old African-American man, who declined to give his name, walked into a Mobile pawnshop and asked to look at two handguns. The man, who said he was thinking of buying a handgun for his 21st birthday in December, said he believed five evacuees from New Orleans were trying to take over portions of a public housing project and waved guns at him and his friends.
A scuffle ensued, according to the man, who said he and more than a dozen friends overpowered the group from New Orleans.
Larry Anderson, 50, who has run the largest gun store in central Florida for more than 15 years, said he's not surprised by the surge in gun sales across Louisiana and other parts of the South in the last few days.
"Whenever people feel their way of life is being threatened, they are going to go out and buy guns for protection," said Anderson, whose store has an inventory of about 1,500 firearms.
"It happened during 9/11, and it happens just about every time there's a hurricane on the way in Florida too."
When last year's hurricane season was over, he said, gun stores reported sales increases of 20 to 25 percent. That's a banner year by any measure, Anderson said.
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2005-09-09 14:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE]A 20-year-old African-American man, who declined to give his name, walked into a Mobile pawnshop and asked to look at two handguns. The man, who said he was thinking of buying a handgun for his 21st birthday in December, said he believed five evacuees from New Orleans were trying to take over portions of a public housing project and waved guns at him and his friends.
A scuffle ensued, according to the man, who said he and more than a dozen friends overpowered the group from New Orleans.[/QUOTE]
Already it's beginning.
Now imagine what the sales figures would be if they'd lift the draconian handgun restrictions up North. Hell, they'd be through the roof...and we don't even [I]have [/I] any hurricane refugees!
2005-09-09 15:18 | User Profile
Even I am thinking of adding to my (very modest) arsenal something more substantial than a handgun. It's these times when people are reminded that chaos and fight are permanent and stability and government-imposed armistice are temporary that they realize they are on their own and it's their whitey neighbors that they will think about as their allies when shit hits the fan.
2005-09-09 16:14 | User Profile
The time to buy a firearm or ammo was BEFORE chaos sets in. After the noise from looting is gone and the new orleans mess is no longer a daily news item, we will be left with hundreds of thousands of negros taking up residence in other cities. Then it will be an issue of increased crime rates and school problems. That is of course, until the next crisis/riot/storm hits somewhere and the savages run wild again.
:gunsmilie
2005-09-09 16:22 | User Profile
"Let me ask you if it's a race issue," Gillespie asked Brown as she walked into the shop.
At least 30% of the black male population under 60 want to rape, loot, and murder white people. So yeah, it's a race issue. :rolleyes:
2005-09-09 19:48 | User Profile
[font=Times New Roman][size=3]Armed Suth'ren Folk = stability and peace wherever wayward nig'ras may be...[/size][/font]
2005-09-09 23:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr]An owner of the Eddie's chain, Sandra Gillespie, 45, [B]who is white[/B], struck up a conversation with customer Henrietta Brown, 51, [B]who is black,[/B] when she entered the store to cash a check. About 55 percent to 60 percent of handgun buyers at the pawnshop are African-American, according to Gillespie and Collins.
"Let me ask you if it's a race issue," Gillespie asked Brown as she walked into the shop.
"No," Brown replied. "They say people are coming over here [from New Orleans] and beating people. I'm scared. It's just a bunch of sorry . . . thugs.
"It's mixed," Brown added. "No, it ain't all black. Don't put it on that," Brown told a reporter visiting the shop.
[/QUOTE]Anybody catch this? Weird. They're asking [B]blacks[/B] "if its a race issue". :afro:
Uh-huh. Dem blacks are obviously worried about bein out of the safe confines of their brutha's and sista's in dat big city of Naw Oyleans, and worried about all those big bad white klansman hidin out in da woods, can't you tell? :lol:
Dam nawthenaw's don't have a lick of sense. :wacko:
2005-09-10 08:54 | User Profile
I too have a very modest arsenal: a .22 semi-auto rifle, and a single-shot 12 gauge. If the shit hits the fan around here, that [I]should[/I] be sufficient to hold the fort, but I've been mulling the purchase of a pistol for some time.
2005-09-10 09:52 | User Profile
For those of you who don't already own at least one good semi-auto rifle in a potent caliber (at least 5.56 NATO, 5.45 Russian, or 7.62 Russian), I urge you to get one and stock up on mags and ammo!
Handguns are nice to have, but they're just backup weapons. A rifle trumps a handgun every time (except maybe at point-blank range, where the rifle's length is a liability). You need a semi-auto rifle. If you live in a place where AR-15s and AKs are illegal and don't want to break the law just yet, at least get a semi-auto hunting rifle.
Arming yourself isn't just something you do in case of social anarchy, either. Someday the only thing keeping political dissidents like us out of ZOG's rape rooms might be our weapons and our wits.
This calls for a new thread in the "Firearms" forum -- please see the article I'm about to post there, called "Arm Yourself, White Man"!
2005-09-11 00:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=N.B. Forrest]I too have a very modest arsenal: a .22 semi-auto rifle, and a single-shot 12 gauge. If the shit hits the fan around here, that should be sufficient to hold the fort, but I've been mulling the purchase of a pistol for some time.[/QUOTE] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Respectfully, brother, my recommendation is that you save up your FRN's and gitya' a Springfield Armory M1A or an FN-FAL in .308 plus 5 mags (at minimum). If the price is too high fer ya' my fallback suggestion is anything in 7.62 x 39. If you live in the South you still have freedom enough to get these pieces w/o paper, and at a reasonable price to boot.
Pistols should wait until you have greater firepower.
Just a suggestion (a strong one tho'), hope I haven't offended & my apology if I did.[/size][/font]
2005-09-11 03:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hivemindgammahydra7][font=Times New Roman][size=3]Respectfully, brother, my recommendation is that you save up your FRN's and gitya' a Springfield Armory M1A or an FN-FAL in .308 plus 5 mags (at minimum). If the price is too high fer ya' my fallback suggestion is anything in 7.62 x 39. If you live in the South you still have freedom enough to get these pieces w/o paper, and at a reasonable price to boot.
Pistols should wait until you have greater firepower.
Just a suggestion (a strong one tho'), hope I haven't offended & my apology if I did.[/size][/font][/QUOTE]
Why do you recommend the FN-FAL? And how much might one expect to pay for one? I understand they are now made under license domesticallly, no?
2005-09-11 04:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Why do you recommend the FN-FAL? And how much might one expect to pay for one? I understand they are now made under license domesticallly, no?[/QUOTE]
Generaly regarded as the best .308 caliber battle rifle ever made. The best ones today are made by DS Arms. There is a website, FN Forums with some info. If you can find articles by Peter Kokalis, a writer for Shotgun News (formerly, a writer for Soldier of Fortune magazine) You will get some straight info, no B.S.
Magazines and spare parts for the FN FAL are very afordable and available at this time.
P.S. Shotgun News is a tabloid type publication available at most news stands.
Another good source of info is Gunlist, another publication like Shotgun News.
2005-09-11 12:19 | User Profile
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2005-09-12 08:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hivemindgammahydra7][font=Times New Roman][size=3]Respectfully, brother, my recommendation is that you save up your FRN's and gitya' a Springfield Armory M1A or an FN-FAL in .308 plus 5 mags (at minimum). If the price is too high fer ya' my fallback suggestion is anything in 7.62 x 39. If you live in the South you still have freedom enough to get these pieces w/o paper, and at a reasonable price to boot.
Pistols should wait until you have greater firepower.
Just a suggestion (a strong one tho'), hope I haven't offended & my apology if I did.[/size][/font][/QUOTE]
No offense taken. I think you're right: I need to beef up my firepower. I was considering a pistol simply because one can carry it for emergencies.