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Thread ID: 20082 | Posts: 6 | Started: 2005-09-08
2005-09-08 10:48 | User Profile
Last night I caught up on reading Citizens Informer (a fine paper put out by the Council of Conservative Citizens, for those who don't know). In the Apr-June issue something really caught my eye. It's from a paean to Dr. Francis by Peter Gemma.
(I only have the paper version, so I'm re-typing by hand, any typos are mine. emphasis also mine)[indent]Pastor Michael Milton of the Francis familyââ¬â¢s home church, Chattanoogaââ¬â¢s First Presbyterian, gave an inspired eulogy at the graveside, at one point comparing Sam Francis to great writers such as Flannery Oââ¬â¢Connor and Walker Percy. ââ¬ÅDr. Francisââ¬â¢ defense of the truth led manyto admire him, befriend him and, at times, withdraw from him. The work of a prophet is a lonely calling,ââ¬Â the minister remarked. **Noting that Sam had accepted Christ as his personal Savior in April 1956, Rev. Milton observed ââ¬Åthat Truth got hold of him and never let go,ââ¬Â even as Sam spent the rest of his life ââ¬Ådetermining, disseminating, and discovering what he believed was the truth.ââ¬Â
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[/indent]I've seen some people on the internet take the liberty to claim that Sam Francis was a "nonbeliever," "not a Christian," et. When I've read Dr. Francis, I've always felt like I was reading a Christian. Not a Christian myself (I'm working on it!), I wasn't sure how fine my spiritual radar was tuned. After reading this article, now I know I guessed right.
I'll make another guess, it's going to be white Christian men who get us out of this mess. There are some pagan wotanist (or whatever) who say otherwise. But that's because they're just a handful of fringe folks talking to each other on forums, who've lost touch with just how deeply Christian Americans are. Christianity ain't going nowhere. It's still jumping even in western Europe. Even the Netherlands of all places (!!!) has a Christian theonomic party with a couple seats in parliament (strict Reformed folks, their [url="http://www.sgp.nl"]website[/url] is closed on Sundays!). The death of Christianity is greatly exaggerated. Don't forget also that the most religious people are the ones doing (almost) all the breeding. The rest of us are dying off! I'm praying for the strength to grow and to have faith.
We don't need more Adolf Hitlers (didn't the original destroy enough white lives?), we need more men like Sam Francis. Not to put too fine a point on it, but otherwise, we're screwed.
2005-09-08 18:06 | User Profile
As an aside, maybe it's just my own lack of knowledge of Presbyterianism but it struck me as odd that a Presbyterian minister would use the phrase "accepted Christ as his personal saviour." That particular phrase is of course much more prevalent in evangelical Christian lingo.
2005-09-08 19:59 | User Profile
I can see why that'd be less common, but based on a google search, not really a unique case. I think he's probably picked up some of the lingo popular in other denominations (that happen to be very popular in Tennessee), much the same way many Catholics in America pick up lingo, mannerisms, even schools of thought from Protestants. Protestants are the majority here, so that makes sense, and by the same token evangelicals are a prominent influence over everyone. The influences from other denominations can run pretty deep. Sen. Rick Santorum is a Catholic but he sounds like a Protestant when you hear him talk. Justice Antonin Scalia is a Catholic but says that Catholic judges should support the death penalty, even though the Pope is against it. I'm pretty sure that stance shows influence from Protestant America, just as Pastor Milton is influenced by the evangelicals he shares Tennessee with.
2005-09-08 20:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]As an aside, maybe it's just my own lack of knowledge of Presbyterianism but it struck me as odd that a Presbyterian minister would use the phrase "accepted Christ as his personal saviour." That particular phrase is of course much more prevalent in evangelical Christian lingo.[/QUOTE]Well modern presbeterians have come a long way since Calvin baby, just like a lot of "Lutheran" churches have come long way since Luther. I think that an awful lot of Churches try to speak that generic evangy lingo these days.
1956? Sam was only 9 years old then. I suppose he's like a lot of people who move away from home, especially from the south. A lot of time they just "keep their membership at their home church". Whatever that means.
But shute, even if that's basically what Sam did, that's no different than what dubbya's done, except for the periodic publicity visits dubbya makes to various churches. And the Freepers would all say dubbya is going to sit right at the left hand of Christ at the second coming.
2005-09-08 20:28 | User Profile
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According to Peter Brimelow, Dr. Francis regarded himself as a Southern Presbyterian and a Puritan (which were united by a robust Calvinism). It's interesting that so many key figures on our side are Presbyterian. There was an editorial in Occidental Quarterly, which said Sam got his understanding of human nature from his Presbyterianism. I think there's something to that. [/size][/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2]As I recall, Rep. Tancredo is also a Presbyterian.
So is George Allen of Virginia, who as governor declared "Confederate Heritage Month." He has a Confederate flag nailed to his living room wall. [/size][/font]
2005-09-13 22:54 | User Profile
Texas Dissident
[QUOTE]As an aside, maybe it's just my own lack of knowledge of Presbyterianism but it struck me as odd that a Presbyterian minister would use the phrase "accepted Christ as his personal saviour." That particular phrase is of course much more prevalent in evangelical Christian lingo.[/QUOTE]
Fundamentalism is not uncommon among Presbyterians. We might remember the history of Protestantism. The Puritans were Calvinist and started out as Presbyterian, then Congregationalist broke off from them because they wanted the Congregation to have direct control over the church rather being run by elders. Then Baptists then broke off because they did not believe in infant Baptism. Well in many areas in America Presbyterian, Congregational, and Baptist Churches sat side by side. People would sometimes jump ship and go to the church across the street. All of them spring from Calvinism and have always been close by each other.