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2002-08-08 01:15 | User Profile
Why I am (Probably) a Paleoconservative Richard Poe Aug. 4, 2002
No sooner had I arrived home from my five-week sojourn in Greece this Thursday, than I learned that some people had been talking about me. In an article called "The Virtue of Xenophobia," posted on TheTexasMercury.com, Jimmy Cantrell suggests that, far from being a neoconservative ââ¬â as my detractors often call me ââ¬âI am actually closer to being a paleoconservative.
"A paleo-what?" some readers may respond.
Yes, I know. All those "neos" and "paleos" used to confuse me too. But I am finally beginning to understand what they mean. And I think Cantrell is right.
Many issues divide neocons from paleocons, but race seems to be the crucial one. Neocons believe that America will always be America, with or without white people. Some neocons even preach that the sooner American whites intermarry with non-whites to produce a new race of amorphous cosmopolites with café au lait complexions, the better off everyone will be.
Not so, say the paleocons. Anglo-Saxon civility will not survive the disappearance of Anglo-Saxon people. If white folks lose their demographic and political dominance here, America will likely degenerate into a hellhole of Zimbabwe-style violence, they warn.
I have long been mistaken for a neocon, partly because I wrote "Black Spark, White Fire," a book which suggests that the blending of many races and cultures in the ancient Mediterranean helped stimulate high civilizations in Egypt, Greece and the Levant.
Some perceived my book as a promotion of the neocons' café au lait utopia, since it celebrated a time when swarthy Mediterraneans built mighty kingdoms, while purebred Aryans languished in savagery.
Even worse (in the eyes of some critics), "Black Spark" seemed to emanate from ethnic self-interest. Being half Russian-Jewish and half Mexican by descent, I melt easily into Mediterranean crowds ââ¬â as I was recently reminded in Greece, where waiters, cab drivers and store clerks invariably addressed me in the Hellenic tongue.
One could argue that "Black Spark" was merely a chauvinistic celebration of my own kind, a song of praise for Mediterranean "diversity" over Aryan "purity," somewhat in the spirit of Giuseppe Sergi's 1901 treatise, "The Mediterranean Race."
All of that is possible, at least on some half-conscious level. But "Black Spark" made a larger point.
Contrary to popular belief, my book was no exercise in dead-white-male bashing. In praising the Egyptian and Phoenician seafarers who "discovered" Europe (and who possibly gave the continent its name), I defended exploration as a noble enterprise ââ¬â no small heresy in an age when schoolchildren are taught to despise Columbus as a slaver, mass murderer and infectious disease vector.
The honest reader, moved by my book to applaud Egyptian and Phoenician explorers, could hardly condemn later adventurers for similar feats in the New World.
Some conservatives got the point. Steve Sailer ââ¬ânwhose Human Biodiversity Institute outrages liberals with its Darwinian analysis of racial differences ââ¬â gave unexpected praise to "Black Spark" in a recent UPI article, calling it a "sophisticated Afrocentric book" by "a white conservative political pundit."
Sailer quoted me on the subject of whether or not the Carthaginian general Hannibal looked more like Denzel Washington or Vin Diesel. It was great fun. But whatever color Hannibal may have been, I don't think I would have wanted to live in his Carthage. They used to sacrifice babies there, for one thing.
I approach the question of race much as I approach ecology. We don't really know whether clear-cutting every major forest on the planet will fatally deplete the earth's oxygen supply. Maybe it won't. But why run such a dangerous experiment?
Likewise, it is possible that the neocons are right. Maybe America will survive the extinction of its Anglo-Saxon creators. But who, in his right mind, wants to put this theory to the test?
When I was editor of FrontPageMagazine.com, I ignited a minor scandal in November 2000 by publishing "The End of Paleoconservatism" by James Lubinskas. He predicted that paleoconservatism would fade as a movement, but that its ideas would spread.
And they are spreading. In the unimpeachably neocon NationalReviewOnline.com, columnist John Derbyshire recently opined that "Only Anglo- Saxon countries can do democracy. ââ¬Â¦ Other cultures can fake it for a few decades, as France, Germany, and Japan are currently doing, but their hearts aren't really in it and they will swoon gratefully into the arms of a fascist dictator when one comes along."
Perhaps Derbyshire is exaggerating for comic effect. Even so, his point cannot be refuted from history. Only a fool would ignore Derbyshire's warning. Only a scoundrel would try to silence him by screaming "racist."
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2002-08-08 02:51 | User Profile
Poe's a paleoconservative? Then I guess I'm a paleo-paleoconservative.
2002-08-08 20:51 | User Profile
Mr. "Poe" is a sick opportunist and manipulative fraud, and not even good one at that. He has claim of being Paleoconservative is just plain Silly. He has already endosed the genocide of European Americans. He is a pro-miscegenation, multiracialist American-hating, Leftist.
Pat Buchanan and the New Barbarism: [url=http://www.newsmax.com/commentarchive.shtml?a=2002/3/1/175126]http://www.newsmax.com/commentarchive.shtm...2002/3/1/175126[/url]
"In future years, millions of blacks, Hispanics and other non-whites will inherit political power in America. That's a fact. Will they guard our liberties and respect our Constitution? Or will they use their power to settle old scores?... In my book "Black Spark, White Fire" I argue that the blend of races and cultures in ancient Egypt a land where black-skinned Kushites and blue-eyed Libyans married freely with Egyptians for thousands of years may have helped kindle Western civilization. Egypt was a successful multiracial society. But the Egyptians did not practice "multiculturalism." Every Egyptian bowed to the same pharaoh, worshipped the same gods and spoke the same language. To become an Egyptian, you had to assimilate. Egypt proved that language and culture can transcend race. Imbued with a common vision of nationhood, people of many complexions can unite as one. But to achieve nationhood, you must desire it. You must put aside ethnic loyalties and embrace a new identity."-Richard Poe
Using the "Black Egyptian" lie is low and sick even for a Neocon. What happened to the Egyptians? May I ask where are they now? We are still around; they are not! Also the Nubians were White! Miscegenation is what destroyed North Africa.
The Egyptians and Nubians were White: [url=http://www.geocities.com/racial_myths/blackmyth.html]http://www.geocities.com/racial_myths/blackmyth.html[/url]
2002-08-09 04:24 | User Profile
Now now, be nice. Poe is ill, that's all. Let's not make fun of him. He's a Russian-Jewish-Mexican. Consider those ethnicities jammed into one little cranium, the voices alone would drive you mad. We cannot blame him for not having a cogent philosophy. Imagine the poor fellow driving around all night trying to find one--JUST ONE--kosher taqueria.
:lol: :P
2002-08-09 05:31 | User Profile
Having no intention of endorsing Richard Poe, I find I can't wholeheartedly condemn him with the zeal I'd expend upon someone like his old boss.
For one thing, I don't think he's very bright. Read excerpts of his 'major works' and you can't help but conclude that here is a second-rate mind at work (and a third-rate writer). American kahnservatism being what it is, any hack mouthing the right neo-isms can be groomed for 'stardom' these days. Heck, even Glazov gets fan mail!
In many ways, Poe's the perfect point man for a lot of Ziocon initiatives - he's eager to go first and, should he be captured or killed by the enemy, dumb enough that the rest of the company needn't worry about what he might or might not be revealing under interrogation. You replace him with another True Believer who has to sit down on the floor to tie his shoelaces, and move on.
As this latest column of his so clumsily proves, the next target in the Israel Uber Alles campaign is paleoconservatism, to be followed inevitably by White Nationalism. That particular strategy deserves to be dissected in its own separate thread,but suffice it to say it represents a logical 21st-century extension of the age-old gambit that has served the Chosen well: wheel every horse in the race. Less 'divide & conquer' than 'infiltrate, infest, suck out all nutrients while laying LOTS of eggs in the remaining husk'.
In an odd way, I'm sort of grateful for Poe. A more capable, sharper-witted ideologue would not be half so obvious - thus twice as dangerous. Poe is more of a second-story man who never notices the trail of toilet paper stuck to his shoe, bless his pointed little head.
2002-08-09 15:38 | User Profile
** Why I am (Probably) a Paleoconservative **
Zhid mimicry again :lol:
2002-08-25 02:54 | User Profile
More Trash from Richard Poe!!!
"Was Hannibal Black?" [url=http://www.newsmax.com/commentarchive.shtml?a=2002/8/24/134540]http://www.newsmax.com/commentarchive.shtm...002/8/24/134540[/url]
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2003-03-20 00:27 | User Profile
Why I am (Probably) a Paleoconservative(FR thread)
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** To: AnalogReigns
"I think all kinds of people can learn--once steeped in Western culture--the basics of democratic thought"
At one time, that was considered a liberal, even Marxist, position, because of its focus on environmental conditions. That position implies a certain malleability in human nature.
Even better question: who originally steeped Westerners in Western culture?
25 posted on 08/06/2002 10:24 AM PDT by Hoppean **
2003-03-20 00:41 | User Profile
The Paleocon movement is a White, race-based-even-if-they-usually-deny-it movement.
That disqualifies Da PoeMan....
2003-03-20 00:59 | User Profile
One does not have to be white to like white people or serve white interests. Poe is hardly disqualified from being a neo-con because he has non-white ancestry.
2003-03-20 05:14 | User Profile
Originally posted by Franco@Mar 20 2003, 00:41 ** The Paleocon movement is a White, race-based-even-if-they-usually-deny-it movement.
That disqualifies Da PoeMan.... **
Since when are you the expert on conservatism Franco?
2003-03-20 05:16 | User Profile
Franco and darkeddy,
Poe is disqualified from the Paleocon movement for both resons. :lol:
2003-03-20 05:19 | User Profile
heh, heh, it's tough being right all the time....