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2005-09-01 07:05 | User Profile
[url=http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-superdome1sep01,0,4489032.story?coll=la-home-headlines]Chaos Reigns at Superdome Shelter[/url]
9:21 PM PDT, August 31, 2005
latimes.com : National News
By Scott Gold, Times Staff Writer
NEW ORLEANS -- A 2-year-old girl slept in a pool of urine. Crack vials littered the restroom. Blood stains the walls next to vending machines smashed by teenagers.
The Louisiana Superdome, once a mighty testament to architecture and ingenuity, became the biggest storm shelter in New Orleans the day before Katrina's arrival Monday. About 16,000 people eventually settled in. By Wednesday, it had degenerated into unspeakable horror. A few hundred were evacuated from the arena Wednesday, and buses will take away the remaining people Thursday.
"We pee on the floor. We are like animals," said Taffany Smith, 25, as she cradled her 3-week-old son, Terry. In her right hand she carried a half-full bottle of formula provided by rescuers. Baby supplies are running low; one mother said she was given two diapers and told to scrape them off when they got dirty and use them again.
At least two people, [u]including a child[/u], have been raped as the arena darkened at night. At least three people have died, including one man who jumped 50 feet to his death, saying he had nothing left to live for.
The hurricane left most of southern Louisiana without power, and the arena, which is in the central business district of New Orleans, was not spared. The air-conditioning failed immediately, and a swampy heat filled the dome.
An emergency generator kept some lights on but quickly failed. Engineers have worked feverishly to keep a backup generator running, at one point swimming under the floodwater to knock a hole in the wall to install a new diesel fuel line. But the backup generator, too, is faltering and is almost entirely submerged.
There is no sanitation. The stench is overwhelming. The city's water supply, which had held up since Sunday, gave out early Wednesday, and toilets in the Dome became inoperable and began to overflow.
"There is feces on the walls," said Bryan Hebert, 43, who arrived at the dome Monday. "There is feces all over the place."
The Superdome is patrolled by more than 500 Louisiana National Guard, many of whom carry machine guns as sweaty, smelly people press against metal barricades that keep them from leaving, shouting as the soldiers pass by: "Hey! We need more water! We need help!"
Most of the refugees are given two nine-ounce bottles of water a day and two boxed meals: spaghetti, Thai chicken or jambalaya.
One man tried to escape Wednesday by leaping over a barricade and racing toward the streets. The man was desperate, said National Guard Sgt. Caleb Wells. Everything he was able to bring to the Superdome had been stolen. His house has likely been destroyed, his relatives killed.
"We had to chase him down," Wells said. "He said he just wanted to get out, to go somewhere. We took him to the terrace and said: `Look.' "
Below, floodwaters were continuing to rise, submerging cars.
"He didn't realize how bad things are out there," Wells said. "He just broke down. He started balling. We took him back inside."
The soldiers -- most are sleeping only two or three hours a night, and many have lost houses themselves -- say they are doing the best they can with limited resources and no infrastructure. But they have become the target of many refugees' anger.
"[u]They've got the impression that we have everything and they have nothing[/u]," said 1st Sgt. John Jewell. "I tell them: We're all in the same boat. We're living like you're living. Some of them understand. Some of them have lost their senses."
Thousands of people are still wading to high ground out of the flooding, and most head for the Superdome. Officials have turned hundreds away.
"The conditions are steadily declining," said Maj. Ed Bush. "The systems have done all they can do. We don't know how much longer we can hold on. The game now is to squeeze everything we can out of the Superdome and then get out."
New Orleans Mayor C. Ray Nagin said Wednesday that more than 100 buses are staged just outside the city for Thursday's evacuation. He had asked officials in Baton Rouge and Lafayette to send all their school buses -- about 500 -- to New Orleans. If all of the buses make it into the city, Nagin said, the Superdome could be cleared out by nightfall tonight.
Most of the people will go to Houston, where they will stay in the Astrodome. Others will be taken to Louisiana cities that escaped the hurricane.
2005-09-01 07:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brooke]Most of the people will go to Houston, where they will stay in the Astrodome.[/QUOTE]
Oh boy. :unsure:
2005-09-01 07:16 | User Profile
Relax. By the time they arrive in Houston, they'll already have turned Baton Rouge into a Third World war zone too. As soon as they figure out that thee's nowhere near enough law enforcement in BR to maintain order, the 'fun' will begin.
At least Houston has enough personnel on hand to keep them on a tight leash.
2005-09-01 07:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Oh boy. :unsure:[/QUOTE]Guess whose coming to dinner! :afro:
:twisted:
2005-09-01 07:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]At least Houston has enough personnel on hand to keep them on a tight leash.[/QUOTE]Ah the old days, when suthun Sheriffs didn't brook no trouble from these boys, and they all took buses to NYC to get away.
2005-09-01 07:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Guess whose coming to dinner! :afro:
:twisted:[/QUOTE]
No doubt it's getting more and more interesting. I know that HISD has already announced that all the kids will be able to attend their schools. Have no idea whether or not these folks will be able to just walk off the Dome's premises or how they will keep track of everybody coming and going. It's the Red Cross's show, we'll just have to see how it goes. I'm sure some of the HISD high schools could use some football talent right about now.
2005-09-01 07:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]No doubt it's getting more and more interesting. I know that HISD has already announced that all the kids will be able to attend their schools. Have no idea whether or not these folks will be able to just walk off the Dome's premises or how they will keep track of everybody coming and going.
No problem. Just count the crack vials and follow the blood trails.> It's the Red Cross's show, we'll just have to see how it goes. I'm sure some of the HISD high schools could use some football talent right about now.[/QUOTE]I think this is taking suthin hospitality a bit too far.
You know, I've got an idea. Maybe we could get Mexico to take them :lol:
2005-09-01 07:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]You know, I've got an idea. Maybe we could get Mexico to take them :lol:[/QUOTE]
Some might say Mexico del Norte already is. Time will tell whether or not our beloved local 'hispanics' we'll start to resent these folks moving in and sponging up their rightful freebies and handouts.
2005-09-01 13:12 | User Profile
Superbowl=toilet bowl. Hope they filled up the EIB skybox.
2005-09-01 13:33 | User Profile
I heard that shots were fired at the National guard helicopters in the area around the Superdome. I fear the situation in New Orleans is becoming unhinged.
2005-09-01 13:40 | User Profile
[url=http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050901/D8CBFA384.html ][B]Superdome Evacuation Halted Amid Gunfire[/B][/url]
Sep 1, 8:33 AM (ET)
NEW ORLEANS (AP) - The evacuation of the Superdome was suspended Thursday after shots were fired at a military helicopter, the chief of the medical evacuation service said. No immediate injuries were reported.
2005-09-01 13:48 | User Profile
[URL=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9156612/]Chaos At NO Superdome![/URL]
[IMG]http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050901/050901_superdome2_hmed_6a7.h2.jpg[/IMG]
2005-09-01 13:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Some might say Mexico del Norte already is. Time will tell whether or not our beloved local 'hispanics' we'll start to resent these folks moving in and sponging up their rightful freebies and handouts.[/QUOTE] It looks like there is a small % of mestizos, zambos & asians mixed in...it's hard to tell the difference between a mestizo and a high yellow on TV... :yucky:
2005-09-01 15:19 | User Profile
Stupid American tourists! No need to spend that hard-earned cash on a trip to Africa this year. It's coming to you!!
If all of the buses make it into the city, Nagin said, the Superdome could be cleared out by nightfall tonight.
That's a big "if" from what I can see. Plus, what is the range on those buses? Can they stop and "requisition" fuel as they go along and what if there is none to be had? I imagine that the I-10 corridor between Houston and NOLA has got to be about bone dry in terms of gasoline right now, unless of course they're diverting shipments of gas from Texas City refineries to the area.
That whole article is beyond belief. Children being raped? Crack vials everywhere? And, this is from a mainstream news source. You can bet they are sanitizing it carefully. The reality of the situation has to be much worse.
Will Whitey learn anything from this, or will he expend blood sweat and tears taking care of this mess, only to have it happen again and again a few years down the road? I wish I could be more optimistic on the former outcome.
2005-09-01 15:21 | User Profile
Niggers are truly weapons of mass destruction. What they are going to do isn't exactly the way to deal with those :shocking:
I would pay top dollar for footage inside the Superdome. The images may beat those of the lootings. We need a spy on the inside. Will kminta agree?
2005-09-01 15:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Relax. By the time they arrive in Houston, they'll already have turned Baton Rouge into a Third World war zone too. As soon as they figure out that thee's nowhere near enough law enforcement in BR to maintain order, the 'fun' will begin.
At least Houston has enough personnel on hand to keep them on a tight leash.[/QUOTE]
I'm not so sure, IR. Houston PD isn't as openly corrupt as the NOPD, but there's plenty of Aff-Axeshun there also. With up to 30,000 (or more) feral nogs in downtown Houston, all it would take is the smallest spark to set things off, then the indigenous wildlife, black and brown, would immediately take part in the fun. They've been touting the "tight security" at the Astrodome all morning long, but can vigilance be maintained for the months the new Houston Zoo is going to be in operation? The only solution that I see is now that cooler weather is around the corner is to set up refugee camps out in the open spaces of West Texas (maybe near the Mexico border, a twofer!) and break the groups up into no more than 500. That way, the minders can better keep control.
2005-09-01 15:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]Will kminta agree?[/QUOTE]
Come on, mr. That was a cheap shot.
2005-09-01 16:22 | User Profile
Posted on another board . . .
"CNN breaking news. FEMA just announced that they are standing down because the situation is too dangerous."
2005-09-01 17:05 | User Profile
Maybe the solution is to surround the inner city with concentina wire and let nature take its course.
2005-09-01 17:18 | User Profile
Originally Posted by Brooke Most of the people will go to Houston, where they will stay in the Astrodome.
Originally Posted by Texas Dissident Oh boy.
T.D,
Here's an idea. Let [url=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19894]Lutheran Social Services take them![/url] :thumbsup: No need to import Somalis. We can not only produce enough on our own, but have plenty for export!
2005-09-01 17:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]T.D,
Here's an idea. Let [url=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19894]Lutheran Social Services take them![/url] :thumbsup: No need to import Somalis. We can not only produce enough on our own, but have plenty for export![/QUOTE]
I hear you, Sert.
To their credit though, I know the LCMS, Thrivent and a number of Lutheran Aid programs have already got some disaster relief programs working that are channeling their assistance first to the LCMS and other Lutheran churches in the districts hardest hit. It's going to take a broad-based effort, for sure.
2005-09-01 17:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]Niggers are truly weapons of mass destruction. What they are going to do isn't exactly the way to deal with those :shocking:
I would pay top dollar for footage inside the Superdome. The images may beat those of the lootings. We need a spy on the inside. Will kminta agree?[/QUOTE] [url="http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/01/D8CBJ58G2.html"]http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/01/D8CBJ58G2.html[/url]
"We need an effort of 9-11 proportions," former New Orleans Mayor Marc Morial, now president of the Urban League, said on NBC's "Today" show. "So many of the people who did not evacuate, could not evacuate for whatever reason. They are people who are African-American mostly but not completely, and people who were of little or limited economic means. They are the folks, we've got to get them out of there."
"A great American city is fighting for its life," he added. "We must rebuild New Orleans, the city that gave us jazz, and music, and multiculturalism."
With New Orleans sinking deeper into desperation, Nagin ordered virtually the entire police force to abandon search-and-rescue efforts Wednesday and stop the increasingly brazen thieves.
"They are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas _ hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now," Nagin said.
In a sign of growing lawlessness, Tenet HealthCare Corp. asked authorities late Wednesday to help evacuate a fully functioning hospital in Gretna after a supply truck carrying food, water and medical supplies was held up at gunpoint.
The floodwaters streamed into the city's streets from two levee breaks near Lake Pontchartrain a day after New Orleans thought it had escaped catastrophic damage from Katrina. The floodwaters covered 80 percent of the city, in some areas 20 feet deep, in a reddish-brown soup of sewage, gasoline and garbage.
2005-09-01 17:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]I hear you, Sert.
To their credit though, I know the LCMS, Thrivent and a number of Lutheran Aid programs have already got some disaster relief programs working that are channeling their assistance first to the LCMS and other Lutheran churches in the districts hardest hit. It's going to take a broad-based effort, for sure.[/QUOTE] T.D.,
That's fair, I just wish they would pull all their efforts here in the US instead of trying to bring the third world here. Charity begins at home, so to speak.