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2005-08-29 13:05 | User Profile
[COLOR=Blue][B]It seems that India is suffering from the same kind of Islamic demographic aggression as EU countries - and that Hindus like Muthuswamy are not too pleased with the performance of Indian democratic system.[/B][/COLOR]
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[B][I]"Hence martial law under an able leadership is not only a must for India, it is a win-win situation all the way. As a proven problem-solver who has articulated both a security vision to neutralize militant Islam (Islamââ¬â¢s Weakness) and an economic vision, [U]I am willing to play a leadership role under martial law[/U]."[/I][/B]
[url]http://www.indiacause.com/columns/OL_040830.htm[/url]
[FONT=Arial] [SIZE=6]How can India Defeat Militant Islam?[/SIZE]
[I][SIZE=4]By Moorthy Muthuswamy, September 2004[/SIZE][/I]
[SIZE=4]Introduction[/SIZE]
In my previous paper titled "The Art of War on Terror", I had outlined strategies America, the worldââ¬â¢s pre-eminent power, could use to win the war on terror efficiently. In this paper after discussing the nature of militant Islam in India and its surroundings, I delve into systemic deficiencies that have underlined Indiaââ¬â¢s losing war thus far with militant Islam and point out specific steps needed to reverse this trend.
Indiaââ¬â¢s parallel with Nepal is striking. Nepal has seen a massive and extensive insurgency by naxal groups. The country and the society of Nepal are disintegrating in front of our very eyes ââ¬â without being able to reverse or provide an alternative to naxal-based ideologies. Similar naxal-based insurgencies are also seen in several Indian states. With India already reeling under a full-blown Muslim insurgency in Kashmir and other insurgencies in North-East, a legitimate question arises whether India too will go in Nepal way.
Unlike Nepal, India has a higher growth economy overall, and many of its citizens are well educated and are able to create wealth for themselves and the nation. Nevertheless, long-term trends ââ¬â discussed here -- indicate that India too will be torn to shreds by Islamic and naxal forces ââ¬â a nightmare scenario for most Indians or non-resident Indians.
Naxal conflict in India is a byproduct of war imposed by militant Islam
During the last fifty years Nepal has seen consistently high population growth-rates. The resulting large population has been mostly illiterate and getting poorer by the day. Other than tourism and agriculture, the state hasnââ¬â¢t been able to put together a viable economy and create career opportunities for its growing population. [B]Globalization and TV penetration has left its population dissatisfied with their status and made it possible for communist-based ideologies to provide an alternate vision[/B]. It must be pointed out that these ideologies promise little in the way of wealth creation but only sharing of wealth ââ¬â when there is little that can be shared!
Parts of India not benefited by the recent wealth creation too have developed Nepal-like insurgencies. Increased wealth created by Indian software and other industries have not really reached most of the masses ââ¬â expenses related fighting Islamic terrorism and subsidizing Muslim populations, including the ones in Kashmir have gobbled them. India is racking up huge budget deficits to defend against militant Islam without making any effort to defeat it. The Indian politicians have become good at holding "vigil" against terrorism while civilians and military people continue to be killed by militant Islam and property destroyed. Conclusion: Indiaââ¬â¢s war with militant Islam is the indirect cause of the emerging naxal-based insurgencies. Hence, Indiaââ¬â¢s foremost priority must be to vanquish militant Islam, once for all, to avoid sliding into a Nepal-like disaster.
[SIZE=4]War by all means[/SIZE]
I have published extensively on the nature of militant Islamic threat India faces (When are India and Pakistan ready for peace?). For the purpose of completeness, I will point out some characteristics of this war imposed on India.
The enemy, militant Islam, has almost completed the process of Islamization of Muslim majority areas of former British India ââ¬â Pakistan, Bangladesh or even Indiaââ¬â¢s own Muslim majority Kashmir valley successfully. In the former Muslim majority areas of British India, under militant Islamââ¬â¢s control, constitution and laws were formulated favorably to Muslims and Islam, and blatant force was used to drive out indigenous Hindus and Sikhs to India. This is genocide and extermination of the worst kind -- emphasizing the vital human right need to ensure safety of Hindu majority India from militant Islamââ¬â¢s onslaught.
Unfortunately, even in Hindu majority India, various other forms of jihad ââ¬â due to Muslimsââ¬â¢ minority status -- are now under way. Non-Muslims, and in particular Hindus are being marginalized ââ¬â by implementing reservation quota for Indian Muslims and by increasing subsidy for Indian Muslim populations (Congress-led coalition: a stooge of Islamists?). Through the network of mosques and madarassas and through Middle East funding, militant Islam has been able to indoctrinate most Indian Muslims by preaching hatred against the majority community for alleged "grievances" against Muslims, often resulting in "Friday afternoon riots" by Muslims. Militant Indian Islam continues to voice support for Taliban and other extremist regimes/groups around the world, while condemning countries such as Israel that help defend India against a terrorist Islamic Pakistan ââ¬â while still demanding by-the-book implementation of "secularism" within India. There has been a planned transfer of Muslims from Bangladesh to India toward changing the demographics and "fatwas" are issued to Muslim families to bear more children, at the expense of education and increased poverty -- thereby keeping Muslims from joining mainstream. Due to this jihad Muslim population percentage within India has now increased by about 50% since 1947, while non-Muslim population in neighboring Pakistan and Bangladesh has decimated significantly. The Muslim majority Kashmir is now set as a staging post to destroy the "infidel" India from within. This total war -- also called jihad -- is being imposed on India ââ¬â the last big land of infidels in South Asia. The enemy obeys no rules and uses every option at its disposal to destroy India. Current trends indicate that India is losing this war (Indiaââ¬â¢s Future: Trend should be a Friend) with militant Islam that is no less than Nazi-like in its approach.
Indian military understands militant Islam, unlike most politicians or journalists
It appears that the left-dominated Indian media and newspaper editorial boards are hardly aware of the process of Islamization and decimation of non-Muslim populations in Muslim majority regions of British India and its implications for India. Furthermore, Indian media has not understood that not having Muslim majority status in India, militant Islam has to play by different rules to destroy the nation. Indian editorial boards have consistently worked to paint a benign picture of militant Islam or downplay Islamââ¬â¢s deficiencies under the banner of secularism and tolerance while at the same time putting the majority communityââ¬â¢s action in defending against militant Islam under an overly critical microscope. This has resulted in the majority community being poorly prepared to win the war waged on them by militant Islam. Similar lack of awareness exists among Indian politicians. Hence it is no surprise that politicians in power in New Delhi and across the nation have not only exhibited a lack of grasp of the big picture associated with Islamic expansion in entire South Asia, but have not taken a single step to defeat militant Islam. [B]Instead, they are increasingly caving into militant Islam by increasing subsidies and reservations for Indian Muslims and are unable to deport the Muslim Bangladeshis who flood into India for a demographic take over and destabilization[/B].
Unlike Indian public, most of the Indian army units go through a rotation in Kashmir. With Kashmir being a Muslim majority region ââ¬â where Muslims control power, militant Islam is the de-facto power there. Indian military hierarchy, unlike the politicians in New Delhi or most Indian news media editorial boards has been exposed to the real face of militant Islam and the attitude/outlook of Muslims under its grip.
Conclusion: It has therefore become absolutely clear that for India to survive as a nation and defeat militant Islam, Indian military must play an important role at the decision making levels.
[SIZE=4]Indian democracy: a colossal failure[/SIZE]
Where does India stand after becoming independent and for being worldââ¬â¢s largest democracy? Thanks to Hindu majorityââ¬â¢s tolerance it has a large and growing Muslim population and the Hindusââ¬â¢ embrace of modern education has led to creation of a niche for itself in software industry. However, the accomplishment of software industry has been due to private individuals and corporations. Even then growth has slowed down in these areas with Indian governments unable to significantly improve infrastructure, institute labor reforms and provide stability. Hence, Indian democracy can take virtually no credit for Indiaââ¬â¢s resurgence.
[B]Let me list here monumental failures under Indian democracy[/B]:
Indian democracy simply stood by and did nothing when militant Islam forced out to India, most non-Muslims from all Muslim majority areas of former British India. With most Muslim residents staying back in India this has made partitioning of British India in the name of Islam farce and unjust (New Ideas for a New War).
Successive "democratic" governments have had no plan for solving the Kashmir jihadi terrorism, with Kashmir turning out to be a major financial and security wound on the Indian state. The Indian state is unable to revoke Article 370, the root cause of jihadi terrorism. Thanks to heavy subsidies, terrorism sponsoring Kashmir valley has among the lowest poverty levels in the country and has reserved itself lion-share of the opportunities at the expense of poor non-Muslims, in Kashmir as well as in the rest of India. The rule of law is hardly enforceable in this militant Islam dominated region (The woes of Jammu and Ladakh, India, the Kashmiri colony). Recently, the Andra Pradesh govt. declined to arrest a Muslim extremist leader wanted by the Gujarat state for terrorist killings, to avoid "communal disturbance".
[B]Similar situation exists with regard to illegal Bangladeshi Muslims -- not only the Indian state is unable to stop the continued flow, it has no executable plan to return over 10 million illegals. The democratic system has neither been able to bring any meaningful legislation to solve this problem, nor is capable of enforcing the rule of law. Now a Kashmir-like situation has already developed in certain districts of Assam -- in Cachar, Karimganj and Hailakand, where Bangladeshis have almost completely ethnically cleansed Indians out[/B].
Not only in Kashmir, even Muslim majority districts in Kerala have taken a lion-share of scarce resources, from computers to education, leaving the local government little to spend on non-Muslims in the rest of the state. North-East insurgencies continue to be sustained under Indian democracy without being solved. In some places it is getting worse. They are also exacerbated by the war with militant Islam and the terrorism sponsorship received from Islamic Bangladesh.
Pakistan continues to terrorize India, killing its citizens at will. Once again the Indian democratic system, regardless of the party in power has proven that it has no clue what to do. This Indian democratic system is continuing to escalate defense expenditures without making the security situation any better ââ¬â with the end product of little money left for economic development or poverty reduction, in addition to running up huge budget deficits. India under democracy has never strategically raised the issue of non-Muslim ethnic cleansing conducted by Pakistanis. Not only that, India has been meaninglessly lost in the rhetoric of secularism while the reality has been that India is the only land non-Muslims can leave free, safe and prosper -- with all Muslim majority regions of South Asia almost becoming non-Muslim free.
Under Indian democracy, the media and the courts have taken an overly critical view of the retaliatory incidents in Gujarat after Godhra incidents, while doing little about over 300,000 non-Muslims displaced, and many thousands raped and killed in Indiaââ¬â¢s only Muslim-majority Kashmir. [B]The Indian media under "free" Indian democracy, in the name of secularism, continues to turn blind eye to many Islamic institutions in India preaching hateful messages and keeping Muslims deprived and backward, but discredits the majority communityââ¬â¢s efforts to highlight or correct this as "communal". Indian democratic regimes have been using Hindu Temple funds to subsidize and empower many Islamic institutions that are in reality power centers of militant Islam[/B]. Hence, the majority community is not only losing its resources, it is being undermined at the expense of its genocidal enemy ââ¬â militant Islam.
A recent poll revealed (published in Mid-day) that just under 90 per cent of Mumbaiââ¬â¢s Muslims, presumably the most progressive in the country, rejected a secular civil code preferring instead Shariah law, favoring polygamy, triple talaq and Islamââ¬â¢s unequal inheritance laws which allow women half as much property as they allow men. The views of most younger and educated Muslims and of women were also the same, in almost the same proportion. This is the overwhelming proof that Indian Muslims are under the grip of militant Islam, regardless of education.
[B]A 2001 census report on religion shows that the Muslim population in the country grew at the rate of 36% between 1991 and 2001. The Hindu rate of growth was 20.3% in the same period. This data in the overall context implies a bleak future for India[/B].
Not only the Indian democratic system has proven incapable of installing visionary and decisive leaders, but it is also populating legislatures with people of similar quality that have not produced a single legislation to roll back militant Islam. Thus, the Indian Parliament upkeep costs several hundred crores per year to the taxpayers in worthless expenditures. Now it appears that an effort is underway to rescind POTA, perhaps the only effective legislative tool in defending against militant Islam. In fact, over the years, the Indian parliament has implemented legislation after another to appease or promote militant Islam. For all practical purposes, it appears that Indian democracy has become, inadvertently, a proven friend of militant Islam.
Conclusion: There is a systemic deficiency with Indiaââ¬â¢s losing war with militant Islam and its inability to help create prosperity for most Indians, it is Indian democracy.
The near-uniform anti-incumbent voting by the Indian public in many recent elections is the overwhelming proof that the Indian public is simply tired of non-performance of the Indian democratic system that has failed on security and economic fronts and has put the safety of its citizens in gave danger. Conclusion: Indian public has spoken; it is simply down right idiotic to continue with Indian democratic system in its current form.
[SIZE=4]Why has Indian democracy failed?[/SIZE]
There has been a realization by many experts that democracy is not the way to achieve the status of a developed country while starting out as a developing country. This is what I had observed: "During the last fifty years the countries that have achieved prosperity and eventually democracy have done so on the basis of wealth creation and stability achieved through non-democratic mode of governing" (Beyond Fatal Democracy, A New Paradigm: Civilization through Wealth Creation).
[B]Also, recently Fareed Zakaria of Newsweek has published a book "The future of freedom: Illiberal democracy at home and abroad" in which he too has voiced similar views. In a review of Zakariaââ¬â¢s book, Samuel Huntington (who foresaw the clash with Islam in his seminal work, "The clash of civilizations") observes: "unregulated democracy undermines liberty and the rule of law". [/B] Even Zakaria wrote recently in Newsweek, while commenting on Indiaââ¬â¢s economic development that "India is trying to achieve through democracy what was not achieved before". As we have seen India is turning out to be a dysfunctional and a disintegrating democracy that couldnââ¬â¢t provide rule of law or create conditions for its people to prosper. What has happened in a "developing" India is that, Indian people, by and large, have not ââ¬â unlike people in developed countries -- learnt to regulate themselves. This has lead to chaos.
[SIZE=4]What can be accomplished under martial law?[/SIZE]
Martial law puts the Indian constitution in suspension and hence makes it possible to revoke Article 370 on Kashmir -- the core of militant Islamââ¬â¢s assault on India. Under martial law the Indian can state can also launch a massive military assault on institutions in Kashmir that sponsor militant Islam, and even liberate its followers permanently.
It also makes it possible to act to get rid of illegal Muslim Bangladeshis here in India. This is particularly relevant in the context of 1947 partition in the name of Islam and the subsequent non-Muslim ethnic cleansing from all Muslim majority areas into India (What are Indiaââ¬â¢s national security interests?).
Under martial law the Indian state can act decisively against institutions of militant Islam in the rest of India and solve this problem permanently by liberating its flock. The militant Islamic institutions have ensured that India has no reformed versions of Islam (Islamic institutions in India - protracted movement for separate Muslim identity?).
The left-dominated Indian media can be stopped under martial law from playing a subversive and destructive role -- it has mostly played, perhaps unwittingly, until now (Journalists: Unwitting Friends of Jihadis?). This should make it possible to mobilize the Indian nation, under an articulate leadership. A mobilized Indian nation can take on Pakistan and Bangladesh and end their threat as well. Defeating militant Islam within India is the necessary first step towards rolling it back in the vicinity. Therein lies the vision to the safety and prosperity of the entire world terrorized by militant Islam emanating from South Asia.
All of the above and stopping subsidies to appease militant Islam should free up resources leading to a great deal of wealth transfer to most Indians. The Indian state can also invest much more resources into improving infrastructure and create conditions of stability, that even a "China" like growth could be achieved.
It needs to be articulated that China saw a major boost in investment and manufacturing technology transfer after Tinnamen Square crackdown. This crack down, considered "undemocratic" by some, ensured a stable China focused on economic growth. The smart money knew that and it went to China. What India needs at this point is a martial government that can ensure stability by permanently breaking the back of militant Islam. Once it is done, Indiaââ¬â¢s should become a very desirable place to invest, and money & technology will flow into India from outside.
Hence martial law under an able leadership is not only a must for India, it is a win-win situation all the way. As a proven problem-solver who has articulated both a security vision to neutralize militant Islam (Islamââ¬â¢s Weakness) and an economic vision, I am willing to play a leadership role under martial law.
[SIZE=4]How viable is martial law?[/SIZE]
The emerging software industry has also taught section of Indians for the first time how to work together for mutual benefit to create wealth and prosperity. It has also given them hints of what role a government should play to create prosperity ââ¬â by providing a strong infrastructure, security, stability, labor reforms and the rule of law ââ¬â something the Indian democracy has so far failed to deliver.
The Hindus in India constitute about 80% of the population, further divided along caste, language and regional lines. As dominance of militant Islam in South Asia has shown, the elements Hindu majority were too disorganized to mount any meaningful resistance, even as their interests were heavily being compromised. However, as I have pointed out before (When are India and Pakistan ready for Peace?), poll after poll has shown that two most important issues bind the majority: 1) fear of militant Islam and 2) creating prosperity and opportunities for themselves and their families. An able leadership under martial law that can articulate this inter-linked security and economic vision will be welcomed by most ââ¬â already tired of failed Indian democratic system.
[SIZE=4]Conclusions[/SIZE]
Indian democratic system has proven itself to be a colossal failure. In retrospect as many experts are now beginning to realize, this is no surprise at all.
Around the world, in the recent times, only visionary authoritarian form of governments have uplifted countries from developing to developed status -- bringing economic prosperity and security to their people.
Given the two points noted above, the Indian military must now play a leading role in helping to put together a visionary leadership under martial law. Only then can India defeat militant Islam ââ¬â to provide stability and free-up resources to focus on economic development. Without this alternative, India, as current trends indicate, will irreversibly plunge into a Nepal-like situation and be destroyed by Islamic forces.
[SIZE=3][I][B]By Moorthy Muthuswamy PhD [/B]
(The views expressed here are authorââ¬â¢s own. The writer is a nuclear physicist based in America. He is also a director of Indian American Intellectuals Forum, a New York-based non-profit organization. His contact address: [email]MoorthyM@comcast.net[/email]) [/I] [/SIZE] [/FONT]
2005-08-29 13:59 | User Profile
Just for the record, I'm willing to play a leading role in the American Christian Taliban regime.
It's a dirty, nasty job, but somebody's gotta do it.
2005-08-29 14:29 | User Profile
Walter,
Doesn't this almost make you wish Rban were here with his commentary? :biggrin:
2005-08-29 16:01 | User Profile
[COLOR=Blue][B]I am presenting this material partly to show that the problems that the West faces are not TOTALLY unique...[/B][/COLOR]
[url]http://members.tripod.com/israindia/isr/dec4/him.html[/url]
[COLOR=DarkGreen][SIZE=3][FONT=Trebuchet MS]"[B]Inside Nepal the growth of Muslim population cannot be considered anything but explosive[/B]. According to available information Muslim population in Nepal has risen from a mere seven lakhs in 1971 to a mind-boggling 55 Lakhs in 1998. [B]In just 29 years the Muslim population has grown eight times.[/B] [B][B]The population of the Muslims in Nepal being 5.5 millions, every fourth person in Nepal is a Muslim, in a total population of 22.5 million[/B].[/B]
"In view of this is it not a farce to call Nepal a Hindu Kingdom? At this rate of expansion, Nepal will be devoured by Islam before long. [B]A combination of Nepal's paranoia against India and the nonchalant attitude of the secular nobility of India, is busy writing the epitaph of Nepal, as we know it and this will have terrible repercussions on India[/B].
"The question that should be agitating ever right thinking man--- "what is India doing about the rapid Islamisation of Nepal? Precious little! [B]The secular brigade in India is not even taking notice of these highly dangerous developments[/B]. [/FONT] [/SIZE] [/COLOR]
2005-08-29 19:07 | User Profile
I wonder if this stuff below would bring up any flashbacks on OD readers (especially the ones from California)?
[url]http://www.swordoftruth.com/swordoftruth/archives/byauthor/dhruvajyotibarua/tiowb.html[/url]
[FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=Red][FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][B]"In civilized countries such a reaction is termed as gross criminal negligence and government officials who KNOWINGLY endanger the public in this manner are thrown into jail. But what else can one expect from the Communist government of West Bengal? For their outright support for anti national activities, Islamization of West Bengal, and [U]feigned ignorance at the illegal infiltration of thousands if not millions of Bangladeshi Islamic terrorists[/U], is well known.
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"The significant rise in numbers has emboldened Muslims to openly defy the authorities and demonstrate their hatred of India out in the open. [U]During the recent World Cup Matches, Calcuttans were rudely shocked when Muslims began celebrating every time Pakistan won a match[/U], even as the Pakistani terrorists tortured and murdered Indians on the battlefront. In Anwar Shah road of South Calcutta the Muslims put up a tent complete with Pakistani flags and pictures of Pakistani cricket players. Any car passing by on the road was forcibly stopped and the driver was exhorted to contribute a monetary amount to "celebrate" Pakistan's victory! Posters of Indian cricketer Sachin Tendulkar were also burned in a deliberate attempt to arouse anger."[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT]
Petr
2005-08-30 15:09 | User Profile
I saw an article the other day (can't find the link now) that stated that outsourcing to India is now declining. Not because total outsourcing is declining, but because the outsourcing is shifting to countries with even lower wages than India. Race to the bottom, baby.
2005-08-30 15:50 | User Profile
I am an insider. It's become too difficult to find anyone good in hindoo shithole deserving the high salaries they command, now that idiots have rushed to Bangalore to find "talent" and bid up salaries.
I am not alone of the opinion of the low quality of said "talent". Hindoomonkeys are useless lazy bastards, with rare exceptions. What we see here in the US is their creme. And even this exclusive layer of higher castes has overwhelming majority of dull-witted hindoos that've worked their way through H1-b program.
While bean-counters are too dumb to realize, IT is more about talent than raw numbers. Shit mass-produced by hindoo-monkeys is a bottomless money pit. It's better to hire high-paid high-quality than hindoocrap.
2005-08-30 15:52 | User Profile
In what you sense you are an "insider," madrussian?
Petr
2005-08-30 16:00 | User Profile
As in "I know what I am talking about from experience".
2005-08-30 16:55 | User Profile
For me, it came in the form of news that I was supposed to now be "training" and micro-managing a bunch of offshore personnel in India. I concur with madrussian's comments for the most part. While I have a favorable view of the Indians that are here, you all must realize that the ones here are the cream of the crop. Obviously, if you were to take the top one or two percent of any country (even a real dungheap like, say, Nigeria) you would get exemplary citizens.
The fact that American corporations think that they can get "cost savings" out of people who cannot even effectively speak in the English language absolutely blows my mind. After several meetings (which consisted of me Saying... Things... Very... Slowly... And... Using... The... Smallest... Words... Possible) I said F___ THIS. They were absolutely worthless. They need to be micro-managed at every level. Quite frankly I have grown weary of liberals and other white-haters who always talk about how lazy and stupid we white Americans supposedly are. It's all B.S. The Hindu or the Asian may be "smart" in the sense that he can sit down and do things within a limited, proscribed environment for days on end, but throw 95% of them in a dynamic environment that requires a lot of extrpolation and the ability to "guesstimate" and they are lost as sin.
There comes a point when we all must make a stand, even if in a mild way. I struggled with this, but after three years of being effectively "in the movement" (Tancredo/Vdare/Amren and now OD) I knew that I had to walk the walk rather than just be another random internet whiner hiding behind some alias. So, I told my manager that I was refusing to deal with "offshore" personnel again, and that the whole thing was a waste of time and energy. Not only did I refuse to work with these people, but I have been, in fact, doing everything to ENSURE that "offshore personnel" are rightfully viewed as engendering failure.
I am probably one of the few that can really afford to do this, since I am indispensable at my job and I have received two "Outstanding" performance reviews in the last two years (which is VERY difficult to do - only 10% of employees at my company can get this particular rating every year.) And - I confronted our VP about this about three years ago, and he "promised" that we were not going to use offshore personnel for anything other than work that actually needed to be done IN INDIA. I've watched as they stealthily try to move jobs offshore.
I am so sick and tired of these wimpy little Milquetoast engineers and programmers who grumble but then just accept this B.S. arrangement for what it is. What I did is not necessarily easy (and I would have been even more vehement about it). Look, I know people have wives/kids/mortgages/blah blah blah. But if some more people out there don't start growing some testicles &/or a backbone - real soon now - NONE of that is going to matter. Now we have an up and coming Mexican version of Dubya. The white race used to have a large number of fearless types, now we're a bunch of pansies. What is the tipping point that will really cause people to take to the streets? I'm starting to wonder if there is any. Even as I sit back and watch our livelihood become Brazilified, no one at the office really has much to say or think about it besides hoping they're not the next ones and golly-what's-on-reality-TV-tonight.
I'm sure Junior will be really happy to know that his wimpy dad just played fly-on-the-wall while his McMegaCorp employer let him hang on for a few more years before shipping EVERYTHING over to India. "Well son, you can pick lettuce or work in a maquiladora - you've got all sorts of options!" And lemme tell you, these goddamned corporations are ITCHING to move EVERYTHING offshore. Never mind the fact that it makes no economic sense in the long run - all they care about is next quarter's profits.
Sorry to rant here, but I am sure I am not the only one who has a "real life story" to back up his reasons for eventually winding up on a board like this.