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Anti-Israel talk shouldn't be tolerated

Thread ID: 19840 | Posts: 5 | Started: 2005-08-26

londo [OP]

2005-08-26 20:05 | User Profile

SUSAN ESTRICH

Did an ABC staffer insert the following lines in an e-mail sent by celebrity anti-war mother Cindy Sheehan?

"Am I emotional? Yes, my firstborn was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel." That is what Sheehan is claiming.

If you don't believe that explanation - if you don't believe an ABC staffer set about to put anti-Semitic words into Sheehan's mouth - then your hero, my liberal friends, is a raging, ignorant anti-Semite. Sorry, but what are you doing hanging with that crowd?

I am as sympathetic to Sheehan's loss as the next mother. When I heard of her plight, while on vacation with my own children, my heart ached. Why not simply meet with her, I thought - and wrote, like the other liberal columnists - instead of going on a bike ride to nowhere?

I am the last person to "swift boat" a mother who lost her son in this war. I don't blame anyone, man or woman, for being "emotional."

But I will not stand silent and see anti-Semitism masked as opposition to Israel and Israel blamed for George Bush's mistakes, if that's what they are. She did say this, apparently:

[url=http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/sunnews/news/opinion/12480783.htm] Read the rest here [/url]

[I]This smacks of desperation to me. The shrill tone tells me that they're worried Cindy may be a little too close to the mark![/I]

il ragno

2005-08-26 20:33 | User Profile

[I]Yes, he was killed for lies and for a Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel.[/I]

[B]Your hero, my liberal friends, is a raging, ignorant anti-Semite. Sorry, but what are you doing hanging with that crowd?[/B]

Get it? You are duty bound to honor, protect and die for Israel. Don't even pretend for a minute you're not, or you're a traitor. And don't bother quoting that Masonic c*cksucker George Washington - the hard work our Christian friends have done exposing HIS traitorous motives has settled his hash once and or all.

Antipathy towards Israel is treason to America. You don't like it? [U]Go back where ya came from, goy bastard.[/U]

Unless and until people like this are made to walk the plank John Rocker style - forced to grovel and apologize and then thrown to the sharks [I]anyway [/I] - we are doomed. And like I keep saying and saying....we can do this the hard way, and rip what's left of our precious America to shreds...or we can do this the clean, honest and simple way - and wipe the man-made state of Israel off the map once and for all.

[I]Sure [/I] we'll still be left with Susan Estrich, and millions more just like her, but they'll be useless flailing limbs missing a head - without a brain to animate them, or an evil First Cause to order and direct the purpose of that flailing in the first place. Take Israel off the map and suddenly every Jew on Earth no longer has any nation [I]but the one they're living in [/I] to plot, scheme and betray another for. Multiculturalism will stop dead in its tracks once Team Shmuel has no more uniracial Eretz Yisroel to throw [I]yours [/I] to the sharks for.

Sertorius

2005-08-26 21:16 | User Profile

Londo,

This abomination needs to be posted in full before someone decides that maybe Estrich is getting a little too shrill:

Posted on Fri, Aug. 26, 2005
CINDY SHEEHAN

Anti-Israel talk shouldn't be tolerated

SUSAN ESTRICH

Did an ABC staffer insert the following lines in an e-mail sent by celebrity anti-war mother Cindy Sheehan?

I am the last person to "swift boat" a mother who lost her son in this war. I don't blame anyone, man or woman, for being "emotional."

But I will not stand silent and see anti-Semitism masked as opposition to Israel and Israel blamed for George Bush's mistakes, if that's what they are. She did say this, apparently:

"What they're saying, too, is like, it's OK for Israel to have nuclear weapons. But Iran or Syria better not get nuclear weapons. ... It's OK for Israel to occupy Palestine ... for the United States to occupy Iraq, but it's not OK for Syria to be in Lebanon. They're a bunch of [expletive] hypocrites."

Anyone who cannot tell the difference, in any terms, between Israel on the one hand and Syria and Iran on the other is not someone who, as my grandmother would put it, is "good for the Jews" - or for the country, I'd like to add.

I have been speaking to Jewish groups around the nation for the past year, and this is what I have been warning them. It will come to this: Israel will be blamed, which means Jews will be blamed.

There are some who resist these equations. They pretend they can blame Israel, the only Jewish state in the world, a state created out of the dust of 6 million Jews murdered, and say it has nothing to do with Jews. I do not believe this. I am not from the powerless generation of the Holocaust, the ones who watched the newsreels of the children on the S.S. St. Louis being turned away, because American Jews couldn't get their cousins in - but the next one.

My generation does politics, but we are not so powerful as to control Bush. Hardly. More power rests in the gas tank.

It is ludicrous to suggest Casey died for Israel, but it is worse to lionize Cindy Sheehan without confronting the anti-Semitism that seems to be accepted not even beneath the surface. If her allies really believe ABC was out to frame her, where is the investigation? Where is the staffer who could include such language? And what of the equation of Israel with Syria and Iran, a statement too foolish to debate? Why isn't anyone concerned about that?

Or, rather, why is it only the right?

There are lots of people in the middle right now, watching bad news streaming out of Iraq, watching Marine National Guardsmen who weren't supposed to be serving, much less dying, coming home in boxes. There seems to be no end in sight.

Symbols matter. For better or for worse, they help to define movements. If the "anti-war movement" in America is defined, even remotely, as an anti-Israel movement, it will fail. That is certain to me.

If I believed in conspiracy theories, I'd think that the right would like nothing better than to have Cindy Sheehan lead it for just that reason. They might be laughing all the way to the bank about the embrace of her by the so-called liberal media.

To tell the truth, it's just what I'm afraid of. Contact Estrich at Creators Syndicate, 5777 W. Century Blvd., Suite 700, Los Angeles, CA 90045.

[QUOTE] Anti-Israel talk shouldn't be tolerated.[/QUOTE] I'd love to ask her what she proposes to do to prevent someone from doing it. [QUOTE]Anyone who cannot tell the difference, in any terms, between Israel on the one hand and Syria and Iran on the other is not someone who, as my grandmother would put it, is "good for the Jews" - or for the country, I'd like to add.[/QUOTE] America isn't Israel despite what she wants folks to think. [QUOTE]To tell the truth, it's just what I'm afraid of.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I bet that is what she is afraid of more than anything else- that folks will figure out what a true enemy of the West that Israel is and how the Neocons act as a fifth column for it in this country.

londo

2005-08-26 22:03 | User Profile

I like this one.
[QUOTE] Symbols matter. For better or for worse, they help to define movements. If the "anti-war movement" in America is defined, even remotely, as an anti-Israel movement, it will fail. That is certain to me.[/QUOTE]

The anti-war movement will win. America will NOT remain in Iraq as long as they stayed in Vietnam. It's a matter of "when" not "if."

But for this, she's right, symbols matter. That reality is most frightening to her and her ilk. If this war is successfully connected to Israel in the minds of the American people, her and her crews job gets A LOT harder!

londo

2005-08-26 22:13 | User Profile

Here's another jewel:

I am not from the powerless generation of the Holocaust, the ones who watched the newsreels of the children on the S.S. St. Louis being turned away, because American Jews couldn't get their cousins in - but the next one.

My generation does politics, but we are not so powerful as to control Bush.

It seems that, according to Estrich, Jews first became involved in politics around 1945. That's a revelation to me. (note the pity play about the child cousins turned away at the docks :yawn: )

"But... the war's not for Israel and we don't control Bush!"

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.