← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · Blond Knight
Thread ID: 19750 | Posts: 16 | Started: 2005-08-20
2005-08-20 13:43 | User Profile
The Hmongs, like several billion other people, will gladly mooch off whitey's paycheck. As bad as this is, think about the enablers of this treason, with their salaries, benefits, pensions, ect. provided by the taxpaying American workers & small businesspersons just so some Wallmart wanabee, country club type can cut a fat hog in the butt & transfer their costs of doing business onto the backs of the working stiffs. (In my experience,framing the arguement against our cultural destruction - via unlimited immigration - in the way I just did, has stirred up some concern on this issue amongst those whose world view is formed by the televitz & neocon talk radio).
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[url]http://www.nationalvanguard.org/printer.php?id=5709[/url]
[url]http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/aug05/348446.asp[/url]
Hmong want better bilingual services Refugees will present list of demands to Doyle asking for job support By GEORGIA PABST [email]gpabst@journalsentinel.com[/email] Posted: Aug. 14, 2005
Hmong refugees and their advocates said Sunday they will formally submit a list of demands to Gov. Jim Doyle and welfare officials asking for adequate job training and bilingual services before refugees are placed in jobs, such as those at the Patrick Cudahy meat-packing plant. 57510Hmong Workers' Rights Forum
Wa Thao (center) is among a group of Hmong immigrants who attended a workers' rights forum Sunday at the Hmong American Women's Association. Workers told state and local officials at the meeting that the W-2 agency Maximus is placing workers in dangerous work environments without adequate training or access to bilingual services.
At a Hmong workers' rights forum held at the Hmong American Women's Association center and attended by about 100 people, the refugees and their supporters said they are asking that:
ââ¬Â¢ Maximus, the agency that provides Wisconsin Works (W-2) welfare services to all refugees in Milwaukee, be held accountable for adequately preparing the refugees for safe, family-supporting work.
ââ¬Â¢ Maximus "stop unsafe and untrained placements until Maximus or the state acquires funds to increase access to bilingual skills training and vocational English as a second language."
ââ¬Â¢ The refugees get full access to Maximus' policies and to the criteria used to determine job readiness.
ââ¬Â¢ The state conduct a full audit of Maximus' finances and make public what it spends on immigrants and refugees.
The refugees and their supporters, including Milwaukee County supervisors James White and Roger Quindel, state Rep. Tamara Grigsby (D-Milwaukee) and representatives from the office of U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore of Milwaukee (D-Wis.), blasted state policies and Maximus for sending the Hmong refugees to the meat-packing plant without training or bilingual interpreters. About 70 workers have been sent to the plant, said Pa Vang, of Hmong American Women, who has been working with the refugees.
Maximus assigns refugees to Patrick Cudahy through a temporary placement agency.
Some of the refugees who work at Patrick Cudahy spoke Sunday and said they were trained for their jobs by workers who used hand signals. Some said they had been injured or become sick in the cold meat-packing environment. Many have quit their jobs and some said they have been terminated from the W-2 program and can no longer pay their rent.
Sue Levy, refugee services section chief for the Department of Workforce Development, attended Sunday's forum and told refugees that she understood that "you have been having a very, very difficult time."
But she said that working and learning English had to be undertaken together and refugees were better off economically with jobs that pay them more than the benefits they receive in the W-2 program.
Organizers of the forum said Maximus officials had been invited but did not attend. Maximus officials have said they are following state directives for placing refugees in jobs. They have also said they're working to improve transportation and to deal with other issues raised by the refugees.
Pat DeLessio, a lawyer with Legal Action of Wisconsin, said the refugees have not been adequately informed of their rights, such as the right to a hearing when their W-2 benefits are cut.
The refugees also have a right to receive notices in their own language, she said. "I have looked at a number of cases and they were not accurately told of their rights, and their notices were received in English," DeLessio said.
One refugee who worked at Patrick Cudahy, who wanted to be known only as Xa for fear of retribution, said he has eight children and worked at the company for 2 1/2 months, but quit because of transportation problems.
He said he got off work at 3:30 a.m. and had to wait until 6 a.m. for a bus. He said he had purchased a car and drove to work without a driver's license, but the car broke down.
"We have not received any money for three months now," he said. "We had our case reviewed but have to wait to receive assistance until September."
Quindel, who is on the county's W-2 monitoring task force, told the refugees that the Hmong are in "a special category" for giving their lives to help the U.S. during the Vietnam War. "We owe you language and literacy training. We owe you time to adjust to this country and to train for family-supporting jobs. We owe this to you because of what you did for our country."
2005-08-25 20:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Hmong refugees and their advocates said Sunday they will formally submit a list of demands to Gov. Jim Doyle and welfare officials asking for adequate job training [B]and bilingual services [/B] before refugees are placed in jobs, such as those at the Patrick Cudahy meat-packing plant.[/QUOTE] Thanks to Bill "stoke of the pen, law of the land" Clinton, they are within their rights to demand this, along with every other obscure sub-culture from who knows where....And guess who pays???? Talk about insult to injury.
2005-08-26 04:52 | User Profile
I can't remember exactly when this was but wasn't there a group of hunters in Minnesota(?) killed by a Hmong "hunter" a few months back? I remember someone trying to make a defense for the foreigner by saying that Hmongs don't recognise private property rights. When he was confronted on a private hunting lease, he responded by killing the whole hunting party.
2005-08-29 22:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE]I can't remember exactly when this was but wasn't there a group of hunters in Minnesota(?) killed by a Hmong "hunter" a few months back?[/QUOTE]
Yeah. That was the place and the story. He claims the six Hunters "used racist language and threatend him", so he shot em, even ran a young girl who was fleeing down and shot her in the back. Nice to have the Hmong in the country don't ya think?
Here's a link to a followup story.
[URL=http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4242]Killer plays race card[/URL]
2005-08-29 22:40 | User Profile
"Some said they had been injured or become sick in the cold meat-packing environment."
I suppose no Americans could be found to work there.
2005-08-29 23:07 | User Profile
Americans used to work at those jobs before they were forced out by low wages thanks to "cheap labor". Just think, at one time those jobs used to pay well before the US Judeo-plutocracy decided to import the third world.
2005-08-30 00:41 | User Profile
This is why we need Mexicans, to do the jobs the Hmong won't do.
2005-08-30 00:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stanley]This is why we need Mexicans, to do the jobs the Hmong won't do.[/QUOTE] ...both the hmong and the mestizos have helped ruin meat packing...which up until the early 1980's was good hard clean high wage and benefit work...now you got TB cases and every other type of foreign disease carrier working in meat processing...their are various Africans coughing on your meat too. :yucky: Or more likely trying to have sex with a side of beef to cure their hiv infection...:eek:
2005-08-30 02:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Pennsylvania_Dutch]...both the hmong and the mestizos have helped ruin meat packing...which up until the early 1980's was good hard clean high wage and benefit work...now you got TB cases and every other type of foreign disease carrier working in meat processing...their are various Africans coughing on your meat too. :yucky: Or more likely trying to have sex with a side of beef to cure their hiv infection...:eek:[/QUOTE]:shocking: I'd laugh except you're probably closer to the truth than we'd like to think.
2005-08-30 12:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Americans used to work at those jobs before they were forced out by low wages thanks to "cheap labor".[/QUOTE]
I can muster little or no sympathy for them. They voted themselves out of jobs.
2005-08-30 12:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=savrola]I can muster little or no sympathy for them. They voted themselves out of jobs.[/QUOTE] I don't entirely agree with this. The polls I have seen show 60%+ support for reasonable limits on immigration: Republicans and Democrats, whites, blacks, and naturalized Hispanics. I think it's a case of the government ignoring the electorate.
2005-08-30 12:51 | User Profile
Immigration, at this point in time has little or nothing to do with it. The last pro-American candidate to run for the Presidency was Pat Buchanan. How many of America's working class voted for him?
Now, they want to complain about lost jobs? Too late.
2005-08-30 13:03 | User Profile
Savrola,
I know your views. Now, tell me, what do you think should be done, if anything?
2005-08-30 13:06 | User Profile
"I know your views."
debatable.
"Now, tell me, what do you think should be done,"
about what?
2005-08-30 14:01 | User Profile
Let's get beyond the "debatable" aspect of it.
2005-08-30 14:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Let's get beyond the "debatable" aspect of it.[/QUOTE]
Proceed as you like.