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Skinhead video from Russia

Thread ID: 19740 | Posts: 15 | Started: 2005-08-19

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Bardamu [OP]

2005-08-19 23:29 | User Profile

[url]http://media.putfile.com/romper-stomper[/url]


Bardamu

2005-08-19 23:39 | User Profile

I find it odd that the Russian working-class far right uses nazi imagery. I guess that this imagery has transformed itself into the imagery of the world wide White nationalist's movement, even though historically the imagery was pretty much exclusively German nationalist, with the exception of the Waffen SS.


madrussian

2005-08-20 02:39 | User Profile

Good candidate for MTV video rotation.


RowdyRoddyPiper

2005-08-20 03:10 | User Profile

For some reason I always used to mishear those lyrics as "Skinhead, skinhead, putting on the boot, skinhead skinhead, looking for a root". ("Root" is Kiwi/Aussie slang for sex)


RowdyRoddyPiper

2005-08-21 01:39 | User Profile

WTF is up with that tard hitting that bonfire with a big stick and then making faces at the camera? Some of these guys have the mentality of seven year olds.


OPERA96

2005-08-21 04:28 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Bardamu]I find it odd that the Russian working-class far right uses nazi imagery. [/QUOTE] Fascism is not right wing. Big government, total control of the population and domestic opppression are left wing (e.g. communism). The extreme right would be the exact opposite - little or no govertnment at all.


Faust

2005-08-22 03:37 | User Profile

Bardamu,

I don't know, Stalin killed more Russians than Hitler did. By the end of the War as many as a 1,000,000 Russians were fighting on the Western side of the Eastern Front. So it might make some sense in that context.

[QUOTE=Bardamu]I find it odd that the Russian working-class far right uses nazi imagery. I guess that this imagery has transformed itself into the imagery of the world wide White nationalist's movement, even though historically the imagery was pretty much exclusively German nationalist, with the exception of the Waffen SS.[/QUOTE]


Bardamu

2005-08-22 04:07 | User Profile

[QUOTE=OPERA96]Fascism is not right wing. Big government, total control of the population and domestic opppression are left wing (e.g. communism). The extreme right would be the exact opposite - little or no govertnment at all.[/QUOTE]

Common usage has the far right identified with national socialism not libertarianism. These definitions are not perfect, but you work with what you have.

Here is an example:

FEARS of a shrine to the Third Reich being created in the Bavarian Alps mean guests at Germany's swankiest new mountain resort will have their political views scrutinised.

Managers at the newly built Berchtesgaden Hotel in the Bavarian Alps, next to the site of Adolf Hitler's mountain retreat, have decided to vet visitors and groups for [B]far-right [/B] links.

And in an unprecedented move, management have even been allowed to impose a "no-Nazi sympathies" clause on employees, an exclusion normally reserved for the police and security services.


Bardamu

2005-08-22 04:10 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Faust]Bardamu,

I don't know, Stalin killed more Russians than Hitler did. By the end of the War as many as a 1,000,000 Russians were fighting on the Western side of the Eastern Front. So it might make some sense in that context.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it does make some sense in that context, but I think the skinheads would have their interests served much better if they invoked Mother Russia, or something along those lines, instead of the flag of the nation their grandfathers fought.


Bardamu

2005-08-22 04:16 | User Profile

[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]WTF is up with that tard hitting that bonfire with a big stick and then making faces at the camera? Some of these guys have the mentality of seven year olds.[/QUOTE]

Drunk youths, mainly.


Faust

2005-08-22 05:59 | User Profile

Bardamu,

I would not call libertarians Right-wing. Real Conservatism is about Culture and Morality not form of government. Conservatism is Parochialist so it often attacks "Big government," but that is not the meaning of Conservatism. Fascism was an anti-marxist movement that arose to fight marxism after conservatives failed to stop them. Fascism rises when conservatives fail. Fascism had it's problems but it was far better than Stalin.

[QUOTE]Common usage has the far right identified with national socialism not libertarianism. These definitions are not perfect, but you work with what you have.[/QUOTE]


xmetalhead

2005-08-22 13:32 | User Profile

I liked the video and the song. I noticed that video actually used footage from the film "Romper Stomper" starring a young Russell Crowe.

I'm with MadRussian: "Skinhead" belongs in heavy rotation on MTV. If it frightens the boolies just a little bit, it's all good.


madrussian

2005-08-22 15:22 | User Profile

What you see on MTV isn't very different from this video, but intended to either intimidate or wiggerize whites while encouraging wild-beast behavior in niggers.

It's not necessary to be stupid-violent, but it's necessary to want to apply violence to your enemies before you start acting in your group's interest. So, it's all good. You have to want to stomp them. Nothing wrong with that.


madrussian

2005-08-22 15:25 | User Profile

[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]WTF is up with that tard hitting that bonfire with a big stick and then making faces at the camera? Some of these guys have the mentality of seven year olds.[/QUOTE] The way I saw it was two guys fighting or emulating a fight with sticks. The other guy was across the bonfire.


RowdyRoddyPiper

2005-08-22 21:26 | User Profile

[QUOTE=xmetalhead]I liked the video and the song. I noticed that video actually used footage from the film "Romper Stomper" starring a young Russell Crowe.[/QUOTE] Romper Stomper was set in the Western Suburbs of Melbourne. Unfortunately skinheads are a pretty rare sight in Melbourne these days, having been largely chased out of town by Vietnames street gangs. Many have relocated to Adelaide, where they seem to run the petty drug-dealing trade.