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Pat Buchanan on the Iran issue

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JoseyWales [OP]

2005-08-15 17:49 | User Profile

[url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45775[/url]

ooops, did he say that ?

For the Israelis, an Iranian bomb would have the same impact as Stalin's explosion of a bomb had on us in 1949. Israel's invulnerability would come to an end. She would enter the world of Mutual Assured Destruction, like the one we had to live in during the Cold War. Thus, for Israel, the sooner the Americans pulverize Iran's infant nuclear facilities, the better. But herein lies the problem for President Bush.


Angler

2005-08-16 00:06 | User Profile

Very good essay. I'm surprised PJB is allowed to post such non-kosher material on WorldNetDeli.


Sertorius

2005-08-16 00:45 | User Profile

It is funny, when you consider just how much a junior Likudnik Farah is.


JoseyWales

2005-08-16 01:35 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Sertorius]It is funny, when you consider just how much a junior Likudnik Farah is.[/QUOTE]

WND in general is very pro-izzy. It seems to me that they give PJB a voice as an "oppossing viewpoint". They (WND) draw a fine line between pushing the pro-juden agenda at home and supporting the juden in the mideast.


ewald steiner

2005-08-16 14:21 | User Profile

Sooner or later ( if it was not Irak, if it is not Iran, it will be someone else, somewhere else, and sometime ) the moment of truth will descend upon the Israelis. They can not rest smugly in the knowledge that they possess 400-600 nuclear devices. All what is needed to pulverize the eastern board of the mediterranean is 1 or two devices at the most. One single device will cause a chain reaction of radioactivity which will in itself pose incalculable consequences to the entire region ,for generations to come. Against whom are they going to use those devices they have stockpiled ? Neither can Americans be relied upon to continually fight skirmishes and wars on their behalf. In the meantime the show continues.


Quantrill

2005-08-16 14:40 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Angler]Very good essay. I'm surprised PJB is allowed to post such non-kosher material on WorldNetDeli.[/QUOTE] Nice one. I'm a fan of insulting nicknames. :thumbsup:


Angeleyes

2005-08-16 15:45 | User Profile

THis is a point well made my Mr Buchannan.

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After all, we give a $160 billion trade surplus to China, though she is targeting our cities with nuclear missiles. President Bush cut a deal to help India develop nuclear power, though she has tested bombs. We give foreign aid to Pakistan and Israel, which had clandestine and successful programs that built atomic weapons. And we have a basket of goodies on offer to Kim Jong Il if he will shut down his nuclear facilities and hand over any bombs. Where is the consistency here?[/QUOTE]

It has been my feeling that the US needs to court Russian and get Russian into NATO and form a common front vis a vis the Chinese.
[QUOTE=ewald steiner]Sooner or later ( if it was not Irak, if it is not Iran, it will be someone else, somewhere else, and sometime ) the moment of truth will descend upon the Israelis. They can not rest smugly in the knowledge that they possess 400-600 nuclear devices. All what is needed to pulverize the eastern board of the mediterranean is 1 or two devices at the most. One single device will cause a chain reaction of radioactivity which will in itself pose incalculable consequences to the entire region ,for generations to come. Against whom are they going to use those devices they have stockpiled ? Neither can Americans be relied upon to continually fight skirmishes and wars on their behalf. In the meantime the show continues.[/QUOTE]


Quantrill

2005-08-16 16:23 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Angeleyes] It has been my feeling that the US needs to court Russian and get Russian into NATO and form a common front vis a vis the Chinese.[/QUOTE] I partially agree. I certainly think expanding NATO up to Russia's doorstep was a bad idea, and that badgering and ostracizing Russia (as the Bush Administration seems bent on doing) is even worse. However, I don't think getting Russia into NATO would be the best solution. Russia is used to being a world power with an historical area of influence. I think we should allow her to have that area of influence outside the framework of NATO. Simultaneously, however, we should definitely form a closer relationship with Russia, particularly, as you mention, to form a common front against the Chinese.


edward gibbon

2005-08-16 22:57 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Quantrill]I partially agree. I certainly think expanding NATO up to Russia's doorstep was a bad idea, and that badgering and ostracizing Russia (as the Bush Administration seems bent on doing) is even worse. However, I don't think getting Russia into NATO would be the best solution. Russia is used to being a world power with an historical area of influence. I think we should allow her to have that area of influence outside the framework of NATO. [I][B]Simultaneously, however, we should definitely form a closer relationship with Russia, particularly, as you mention, to form a common front against the Chinese[/B][/I].[/QUOTE]At his magnificent speech at Harvard in 1978 Solzhenitsyn warned about the rise of China. The American media remembers his remark that Israel was not part of the West.


Angler

2005-08-17 00:48 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Quantrill]Nice one. I'm a fan of insulting nicknames. :thumbsup:[/QUOTE]I didn't come up with that one, but it certainly fits, doesn't it?