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Thread ID: 19640 | Posts: 16 | Started: 2005-08-14
2005-08-14 14:33 | User Profile
U.S. Donors to Pay Departing Jews for Gaza Greenhouses Published: August 13, 2005
The unusual arrangement was put together by James D. Wolfensohn, the former World Bank president and the current Middle East envoy for the Bush administration. Mr. Wolfensohn also contributed $500,000 of his own money.
"The arrangement gives a real opportunity for the Palestinians and makes the departure of Israelis from Gaza much easier," Mr. Wolfensohn said Friday in an interview. He added that he believed "the Palestinians are trying to make this a peaceful transition - at least the Palestinian Authority is."
The agreement, just four days before Israel is to begin evacuating settlers from Gaza, is intended keep valuable agricultural properties intact for Palestinian use.
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2005-08-14 15:50 | User Profile
But for one detail, in places where no "deals" were made the Jews are poisoning the land and the water wells and while the Zionists shows the world what they are doing they hide also the fact that they are still stealing Palestinian lands like in Jerusalen.
"What is taken with the gun you will have to keep with the gun therefore the Jews will never find peace in the Middle East"......Ponce
2005-08-15 22:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]
"What is taken with the gun you will have to keep with the gun therefore the Jews will never find peace in the Middle East"......Ponce[/QUOTE]
The same could be said about Alsace and Lorraine. :smoke:
Did this jump out at you that way it jumped out at me?
[QUOTE]The unusual arrangement was put together by James D. [u]Wolf[/u]ensohn, the former World Bank president and the current Middle East envoy for the Bush administration. Mr. Wolfensohn also contributed $500,000 of his own money[/QUOTE] .
Didn't a [u]Wolf[/u]owitz just take over at World Bank? Maybe this is coincidence, but it is almost too "cute."
AE
2005-08-15 22:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]"What is taken with the gun you will have to keep with the gun therefore the Jews will never find peace in the Middle East"......Ponce[/QUOTE]I like how you quote yourself, Ponce. :wink:
What you say is very true, though. I wish it were understood by more people around the world -- especially those who rule the nations that Vietnam Vet and Civil War II author Thomas Chittum calls the "Axis of Looting" (the US, Britain, and Israel). (I love that guy.)
2005-08-16 01:01 | User Profile
Has the US ponied up the $billions Israel wants for the pull out? And, if these settlements are illegal under Isreali law, why is Isreal compensating settlers?
2005-08-16 01:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE] JERUSALEM, Aug. 12 - A consortium of wealthy Americans has put up $14 million to compensate Jewish settlers for their Gaza Strip greenhouses, and the facilities will be handed over to the Palestinians as soon as the Israelis leave, participants in the deal said Friday.[/QUOTE] This is something I can support with enthusiam. It needs to be extended to cover all aid to Israel as well as "loans". Let the vast Jewish diaspora pay the bills for their sandbox in the future. ==========
Happy,
They've "requested" the money. Only a matter of Congress rubber stamping the bill and Bush signing it.
2005-08-16 01:19 | User Profile
Well Angler I do have a lot of quotes of my own may favorite one being..... "When the truth comes into the light the lies will hide in the dark".....Ponce
The above I came up with because of the lies that the Jews are always telling the American people. :gunsmilie <----Ponce dos pistolas.
The Jews are getting 1.3 BILLIONS dollars for vacating stolen lands and before they leave they will distroy everything that we gave them money to start up with.
I am glad that I no longer have to pay taxes.
2005-08-16 07:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]But for one detail, in places where no "deals" were made the Jews are poisoning the land and the water wells...
Source?
...and while the Zionists shows the world what they are doing they hide also the fact that they are still stealing Palestinian lands like in Jerusalen.
And like Castro and his red commies in Cuba?
"What is taken with the gun you will have to keep with the gun therefore the Jews will never find peace in the Middle East"[/QUOTE]
And neither will Castro in Cuba 'til he's six feet under.
2005-08-16 21:55 | User Profile
Happy,
Yahoo! News U.S. Plans Post-Pullout Israel Assessment
By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic WriterMon Aug 15,11:16 PM ET
The Bush administration is planning to send assessment teams to Israel to help decide how much new U.S. economic aid might be provided to help develop the Galilee and Negev regions.
Already the biggest recipient of U.S. aid at $2.3 billion a year, Israel is believed to be asking for another $2.2 billion to develop the areas where many of the 8,500 Jewish settlers leaving Gaza will be relocated.
So far, the administration has made no commitment, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Monday. "At this point what we are doing is we are sending some teams to Israel to assess what might be possible," he said.
The pullout from Gaza began Monday. The removal of all Jewish settlers is being financed entirely by Israel at an estimated cost of $2 billion to $2.5 billion.
The Gaza and Negev development projects are designed partly to accommodate dispossessed settlers with similar farming conditions.
Israeli Ambassador Daniel Ayalon said Monday that the prospect of U.S. financial support demonstrates the administration's interest in a strong and prosperous Israel "which is the cornerstone for stability in the Middle East."
He said it was an expression of economic and strategic support for Israel at a crucial moment.
The State Department also was looking ahead.
"What is crucial is that the Israelis and the Palestinians work together to make the withdrawal a success," McCormack said, "to make sure that the withdrawal takes place in an atmosphere of calm.
"That cooperation can lead to a building of trust between the two sides" and re-energize the U.S.-backed roadmap designed to produce a negotiated accord that includes establishment of a Palestinian state, he said.
Meanwhile, the administration indicated again that it considers the pullout from Gaza and four isolated West Bank settlements as only the first step in a larger withdrawal.
McCormack called the Gaza pullout "potentially historic" and said there should be "a further political horizon to this process."
The roadmap, which has the support of the European Union, the United Nations and Russia as well as the United States, calls for uprooting Hamas and other militant Palestinian groups that have carried out attacks on Israel.
"The Palestinian Authority and President (Mahmoud) Abbas understand that they have an obligation to dismantle terrorist networks," McCormack said.
Hamas plans to participate in legislative elections next January. [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050816/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_israel_palestinians&printer=1;_ylt=Atsnjk0nyFm_tU4OJVSJV78Gw_IE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-[/url] Copyright é 2005 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
2005-08-17 00:10 | User Profile
Moments before midnight, scores of settlers were in synagogues in several Gaza communities, dancing around sacred Torah scrolls. They waved flags and sang nationalist songs, protesting the eventual handing of the land to Palestinian control.
Israeli officials said about half of Gaza's 1,600 settlement families had left voluntarily. At least three settlements were abandoned, and several more were nearly deserted. The army said it would assist anyone who wanted to leave voluntarily, even after the deadline.
Earlier in Neve Dekalim, soldiers burst through the main gate to clear the way for about 120 moving trucks. Within hours, a crowd blocked the trucks from entering, and scuffles erupted when security forces tried to push the crowd back.
Protesters threw bottles, eggs and stones, and set fire to garbage bins and tires. Smoke blackened the air. Police said four officers were injured ââ¬â one by an unspecified liquid thrown in his face.
Settlers in several farming communities burned their greenhouses and homes rather than leave them behind. One man punched holes in the walls of his house with a sledgehammer.
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2005-08-17 00:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius] The pullout from Gaza began Monday. The removal of all Jewish settlers is being financed entirely by Israel at an estimated cost of $2 billion to $2.5 billion.[/QUOTE] So, Israel is having to pay to remove Israeli settlers from illegal Israeli settlements. That's totally unfair! :rolleyes:
2005-08-17 00:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=albion] Settlers in several farming communities burned their greenhouses and homes rather than leave them behind. One man punched holes in the walls of his house with a sledgehammer.[/QUOTE] But I bet they'll get their checks anyway.
2005-08-17 01:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Source?
And like Castro and his red commies in Cuba?
And neither will Castro in Cuba 'til he's six feet under.[/QUOTE]
Source Tex? you know is imposible for me to remember or post everything that I read even though I do remember a lot, I am SURE that other on this board can comfirm what I wrote about the poisoning of land and water.
And about Comandante Castro, all that he did was to kick out the imperialist yankee warmongers and give the land back to the Cuban people, nothing wrong with that.
After Castro is "six foo under" there will be another revolution thanks to the Americans who will stick their noses into what is none of their danm business in Cuba.
After Castro is dead you will have the Cubans that "have" from the US going into Cuba and using the Cubans that "have not" that always lived in Cuba as their personal slaves and for that there will be another revolution.
At least in Cuba we don't have to eat any crap from the government as you do here in the states and if we don't like it we change the govenment.
2005-08-17 06:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]Source Tex? you know is imposible for me to remember or post everything that I read even though I do remember a lot, I am SURE that other on this board can comfirm what I wrote about the poisoning of land and water.
Yes, that's what I thought...
At least in Cuba we don't have to eat any crap from the government as you do here in the states and if we don't like it we change the govenment.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes, Cuba is a model for us all.
And who's this 'we'? You got Speedy Gonzales in your pocket? I thought you lived in Oregon.
2005-08-17 06:29 | User Profile
From the news reports I have seen Gaza Greenhouses are all being taken down and removed or being burned. Does anyone what is going on with this now.
2005-08-17 12:20 | User Profile
[B]Humberto Fontova[/B] would like to exchange a few words with you, Ponce..
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