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2005-08-13 21:53 | User Profile
[url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/100805fourstargeneral.htm[/url]
[SIZE=4]Four Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?[/SIZE] [I]Reporter suggests Brynes discovered plan to turn nuke exercise into staged terror attack[/I]
[I]Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | August 10 2005[/I]
The head of Fort Monroe's Training and Doctrine Command, four star general Kevin P. Byrnes, was fired Tuesday apparently for sexual misconduct according to official sources.
Other sources however have offered a different explanation for Byrnes' dismissal which ties in with the Bush administration's unpopular plan to attack Iran and the staged nuclear attack in the US which would provide the pretext to do so.
[B]According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict.
Indications are that, much like popular opinion amongst the general public, half the military oppose the neo-con's agenda and half support it.[/B]
Further revelations were imparted by journalist Leland Lehrman who appeared today on The Alex Jones Show.
Lehrman's army sources, including a former Captain in intelligence, became outraged when they learned that the official story behind 9/11 was impossible.
They told Lehrman that [B]the imminent Northcom nuclear terror exercise based in Charleston, S.C, where a nuclear warhead is smuggled off a ship and detonated, was originally intended to 'go live' - as in the drill would be used as the cover for a real false flag staged attack.[/B]
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This website has relentlessly discussed similar style drills which took place on the morning of 9/11 and on the morning of 7/7 in London.
"Speculation exists that he had potentially discovered the fact that it was gonna go live and that he was trying to put a stop to it or also speculation indicates that he may be part of a military coup designed to prevent the ridiculous idea of doing a nuclear war with Iran, " said Lehrman.
Lehrman said that [B]other sources had told him all army leave had been cancelled from September 7th onwards, opening the possibility for war to be declared within that time frame.[/B]
Northcom officials also admitted to Lehrman that CNN had been using its situation room as a studio.
Earlier this week, [B]Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.[/B]
American Conservative Magazine recently reported that [B]Dick Cheney had given orders to immediately invade Iran after the next terror attack in the US, even if there was no evidence Iran was involved.
Government and media mouthpieces have been fearmongering for weeks about how a nuclear attack within the US is imminent.
Now would be the most opportune time for the Globalists to stage a major attack[/B], as it would head off any potential indictments against the Bush administration for their involvement in illegally outing CIA agent Valerie Plame.
While rumors circulating about indictments having already taken place against Bush and Cheney should rightly be treated very carefully, the fact that there is an ongoing criminal investigation into the matter is something that's admitted and shouldn't be viewed as speculation.
2005-08-13 22:38 | User Profile
Interesting stuff, IR. It's probably true too. I often think that something might be brewing in the upper ranks of the military seeing how they're getting completely f**ked in Iraq by suits who have never even played army as kids.
A military coup? Wouldn't be the worst thing right now, seeing that the current regime is so far out of touch with us.
2005-08-15 22:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country**[/QUOTE] **
That is an express violation of the Posse Comitatus act of 1877, which was enacted, if I remember rightly, due to the damage done by the Army during the Reconstruction.
Thanks for the heads up, need to get back to monitoring the major media outlets.
As the the coup: the TRADOC commander leading a coup?
Coup as in exposing the behind the veil sorts who work out of the public spotlight, those neo cons, or a coup aimed at displacing folks like Cheney and Rumsfeld? Term seems a bit nebulous.
Does the author of this piece realize that he commands no active combat units, save perhaps the 11th ACR out at Fort Irwin? Sounds a bit far fetched, but as nuts as things have been these past few years, who know? I understand that in his position, he'd know about most major exercises, so he'd know, probably, if something too weird was on the plate.
While rumors circulating about indictments having already taken place against Bush and Cheney should rightly be treated very carefully, the fact that there is an ongoing criminal investigation into the matter is something that's admitted and shouldn't be viewed as speculation.[/QUOTE]
2005-08-15 23:22 | User Profile
AE,
I heard this guy on the radio and he has backed off the "coup" remark, saying that perhaps is too strong a term. The only thing that I can think of him doing is leaking details about this plan by Cheney and company. I believe that he is high enough in the pecking order to know that if it is true [because of the claim] that new equipment is being issued [and his duties in that regard]. I have to wonder if he may have been the source of some of the leaks of the past such as Wolfie's plan to land the 101st AA in Baghdad at the start of the war or Perle's plan to use only two brigades to invade Iraq with.
Here's a link if you wish to hear Alex Jones: [url]http://www.charlesgoyette.com/archive/index.cgi?2005-08-12-Charles[/url]
2005-08-16 00:52 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes]** **
As the the coup: the TRADOC commander leading a coup?
[/QUOTE] Good point.
Maybe he was trying to win the war of ideas. What does TRADOC have, about 30 different schools, recruiting, ROTC, leadership development? It might be a good thing to have some anti-neocon thought introduced through the command...
2005-08-16 01:08 | User Profile
Insofar that Cindy dosen't hold any military rank or any position in the US government she cannot be reduced in rank and court martialed or be blackmailed, in other words......she is one of us.
2005-08-16 01:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]AE,
I heard this guy on the radio and he has backed off the "coup" remark, saying that perhaps is too strong a term. The only thing that I can think of him doing is leaking details about this plan by Cheney and company. I believe that he is high enough in the pecking order to know that if it is true [because of the claim] that new equipment is being issued [and his duties in that regard]. I have to wonder if he may have been the source of some of the leaks of the past such as Wolfie's plan to land the 101st AA in Baghdad at the start of the war or Perle's plan to use only two brigades to invade Iraq with.[/QUOTE]
Maybe we will hear something from "Rear" Admiral John "she thought she got hit in the a$$ with a propeller" Lehman.
John maybe a dirty old man, and the bastard daddy of the 600 ship navy, but, I would have rather seen him running homeland security than the kike Chertoff. Call it Pennsylvania Dutch solidarity...since 1680 with no big problems...
2005-08-16 01:21 | User Profile
PD,
I thought Lehman was a Jew. I know he is a neocon from reading and hearing him. What's this about him being a dirty old man? That's something I haven't heard about previously.
2005-08-16 01:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]PD,
I thought Lehman was a Jew. I know he is a neocon from reading and hearing him. What's this about him being a dirty old man? That's something I haven't heard about previously.[/QUOTE] He's about as much a jew as a paddy's pig. Olde Pennsylvania Dutch family---there are as may Lehman's as there are Yoders in Dutch country in Pennsylvania, and Ohio...a few Amish, some Mennonites, a lot of Methodists & Protestants, a number of Catholics. John's mother was Grace Kelly's sister, the way I heard it from the Kelly clan, his dad "was" a Protestant and a doctor(?).
John invented "Tailhook" didn't he.:cool: Anyway getting on national TV on Sunday morning and bragging about your sex life isn't going to win you any Pennsylvania Dutch points. It wasn't a great moment in Pennsylvania Dutchiness...even if it was self effacing! Maybe the Irish were happy with the performance, but, I doubt it. At least not in mixed comapny anyway. :bag:
I doubt that Lehman knows what a neo-coon is...the guy had a lip lock on Ronnie Raygun and is proably more of a Republicoon coonservative with his political handout (that would be the emphsis of his career) and he no doubt liked to sing Oh Ronnie Boy...I understand he originally moved to Virginia to run for the US Senate...never got to first base.
By the same token I think John is just dumb enough and honest enough to be trusted with Homeland Security...my guess is he is even cleaner than Tom Ridge.
2005-08-16 02:11 | User Profile
PD,
Thanks, I stand corrected about Lehman's background. He may not know what a neocon is, but he sure sounds the same shofar as they do.
2005-08-16 02:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]PD,
Thanks, I stand corrected about Lehman's background. He may not know what a neocon is, but he sure sounds the same shofar as they do.[/QUOTE] I don't follow him "that" closely...and his career has gone nowhere since President Raygun finished his second term... :mellow:
2005-08-16 03:26 | User Profile
PD,
He's wrote alot of columns for the Wall Street Journal before the war for Israel and oil stressing how "we" were threaten. He belongs to a number of Neocon fronts. Also, I watched him on tv during the 9/11 hearings where he left me a rather negative impression. That's where I know him from and where I got the impression he was a Jew.
2005-08-16 12:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]PD,
He's wrote alot of columns for the Wall Street Journal before the war for Israel and oil stressing how "we" were threaten. He belongs to a number of Neocon fronts. Also, I watched him on tv during the 9/11 hearings where he left me a rather negative impression. That's where I know him from and where I got the impression he was a Jew.[/QUOTE] Too bad John Lehman has turned into a jew suck...but, you can be sure he is suckin' jew a$$ for dollars.
2005-08-16 13:08 | User Profile
That would put him in the Bill Bennett camp. I regard Bill as a political opportunist anf hitman who is more concerned for his own self aggrandizement than anything else. :dry:
2005-08-16 14:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno] Earlier this week, Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.
American Conservative Magazine recently reported that Dick Cheney had given orders to immediately invade Iran after the next terror attack in the US, even if there was no evidence Iran was involved.[/QUOTE] I had heard that Cheney had ordered the development of attack plans against Iran that involved the use of tactical nukes, but I was unaware that he had given a 'doomsday' order of the type described above. I'm starting to think these guys are truly insane; not simply delusional, but out-and-out, straitjackets, electroshocks, and lobotomies kind of insane.
2005-08-16 15:27 | User Profile
PD
John Lehman:
Never an Admiral, or did they promote him to Rear Admiral in the reserves while he was Secretary of the Navy? He used to get a lot of PR photos of his drilling with an A-6 outfit, as a reserve Commander or Captain.
The Tailhook Association began in about 1966 or so in a bar in Rosarita Beach, Mexico. It grew into something a bit larger, bit Carrier Pilot pilgrimmage to the desert Mecca (Las Vegas) for both wayward pilots and many, many contractors. Lehman had been gone from Sec Nav for some years before Talihook '91 turned from a party into a national scandal. Wasn't Sean OKeefe, the current NASA chief, the SecNav then?
[QUOTE=Pennsylvania_Dutch]He's about as much a jew as a paddy's pig.
By the same token I think John is just dumb enough and honest enough to be trusted with Homeland Security...my guess is he is even cleaner than Tom Ridge.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't he also on a recent 9-11 related commission?
Clean? Hmmm, anyone who has been in politics that long can only be so clean. The profession attracts sludge.
2005-08-16 15:30 | User Profile
Q:
I have a hard time believing Cheney is that out of touch with practical matters: i.e., military forces levels versus what an Iran Operation would require.
I also don't see anyone pushing the button any time soon.
Or is that my hope substituting for analysis? Hope not! I think he is still pushing that irresponsible tactical nuke bunker buster munition. Man, didn't he learn anything when he was SecDef?????????
AE
[QUOTE=Quantrill]I had heard that Cheney had ordered the development of attack plans against Iran that involved the use of tactical nukes, but I was unaware that he had given a 'doomsday' order of the type described above. I'm starting to think these guys are truly insane; not simply delusional, but out-and-out, straitjackets, electroshocks, and lobotomies kind of insane.[/QUOTE]
2005-08-16 19:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes]PD
John Lehman:
Never an Admiral, or did they promote him to Rear Admiral in the reserves while he was Secretary of the Navy? He used to get a lot of PR photos of his drilling with an A-6 outfit, as a reserve Commander or Captain.
The Tailhook Association began in about 1966 or so in a bar in Rosarita Beach, Mexico. It grew into something a bit larger, bit Carrier Pilot pilgrimmage to the desert Mecca (Las Vegas) for both wayward pilots and many, many contractors. Lehman had been gone from Sec Nav for some years before Talihook '91 turned from a party into a national scandal. Wasn't Sean OKeefe, the current NASA chief, the SecNav then?
Wasn't he also on a recent 9-11 related commission?
Clean? Hmmm, anyone who has been in politics that long can only be so clean. The profession attracts sludge.[/QUOTE] The "REAR" Admiral comment was an attempt at sarcasm.
Maybe, Lehman volunteered to be the butt of jokes on the Sunday morning national news shows about "Tailhook". :shocking:
Unfortunately, I'm afraid Sert is probably right about Lehman being part of the Bush-jew-neo-coon cabal. That's why he is at a political dead end.
2005-08-16 22:52 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Pennsylvania_Dutch]The "REAR" Admiral comment was an attempt at sarcasm.
Maybe, Lehman volunteered to be the butt of jokes on the Sunday morning national news shows about "Tailhook". :shocking:
Unfortunately, I'm afraid Sert is probably right about Lehman being part of the Bush-jew-neo-coon cabal. That's why he is at a political dead end.[/QUOTE]Lehman hid in the reserves during the war in Vietnam though I think he may have a 15 minute excursion ride into North Vietnam. He bragged about his relations with the Kellys. Grace's brother, Jack, was an Olympic champion in rowing, I believe, and a king of the homosexual scene in Philadelphia.
Sean O'Grady, a non-server and budgeteer, officiated during the tailhook affair that was blown totally out of proportion by Hebraic-puritans.
Another professional tough guy surfaces when Lehman sounds the alarm.
2005-08-16 23:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=edward gibbon]Lehman hid in the reserves during the war in Vietnam though I think he may have a 15 minute excursion ride into North Vietnam. He bragged about his relations with the Kellys. Grace's brother, Jack, was an Olympic champion in rowing, I believe, and a king of the homosexual scene in Philadelphia.
Sean O'Grady, a non-server and budgeteer, officiated during the tailhook affair that was blown totally out of proportion by Hebraic-puritans.
Another professional tough guy surfaces when Lehman sounds the alarm.[/QUOTE] I've never known any of the Kelly clan to be faggots---maybe he was adopted? There's a lot of Kelly's...:shocking:
There is some real $hit going on---take a peek at this: [url="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/nukesguardedbyisrael.html"]http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/nukesguardedbyisrael.html[/url]
2005-08-21 01:53 | User Profile
EG
OGrady? O'Keefe was SECNAV at one point in his life, and yes, a weasel sort of political appointee if there ever was one. Are we talking about the same guy, or perhaps different Irishmen involved at different levels? My memory is a bit swiss cheese like on some of this stuff.
AE [QUOTE=edward gibbon]Lehman hid in the reserves during the war in Vietnam though I think he may have a 15 minute excursion ride into North Vietnam. He bragged about his relations with the Kellys. Grace's brother, Jack, was an Olympic champion in rowing, I believe, and a king of the homosexual scene in Philadelphia.
Sean O'Grady, a non-server and budgeteer, officiated during the tailhook affair that was blown totally out of proportion by Hebraic-puritans.
Another professional tough guy surfaces when Lehman sounds the alarm.[/QUOTE]
2005-11-03 17:59 | User Profile
I've since learned that this general allegedly was removed for opposing Rumsfeld's desire to re-write the manual regarding the treatment of prisoners.