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White liberals are a dying breed

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Petr [OP]

2005-08-13 09:20 | User Profile

[I]This is exactly the same process that has led right-wing, Likudnik-Lubavitcher Jews to gain more and more power within the Jewish community during the last few decades - liberal-leftist Jews are simply dying off or assimilating.

I consider the extinction of White liberals to be a very healthy phenomenon, a [B]natural selection[/B] at its finest - and yes, natural selection doesn't create "new stuff" but rather conservatively [B]weeds out [/B]those not worthy to exist, like liberals.[/I]

[url]http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/08/being_liberal_n.php[/url]

[FONT=Arial] [SIZE=5]Being Liberal Now Means Being African American[/SIZE]

[B]Phil Reiff and Jason Alderman, Bay Area Center for Voting Research, Aug. 11[/B]

If American liberals had four legs and fur, they would have been put on the Endangered Species List following last year’s Presidential election. Defining who is liberal has become a national sport among politicians, as Democrats frantically run from the moniker, while Republicans hurl the invective blindly at everyone on the other side of the aisle.

[B]New research done by the Bay Area Center for Voting Research (BACVR) reveals who the real liberals in American are and the answer is not the tree-hugging, ponytail wearing ex-hippies you might expect. Instead, the new face of American liberalism is of a decidedly different hue. The nation’s remaining liberals are overwhelming African Americans.[/B]

The BACVR study that ranks the political ideology of every major city in the country shows that cities with large black populations dominate the list of liberal communities. The research finds that Detroit is the most liberal city in the United States and has one of the highest concentrations of African American residents of any major city. Over 81% of the population in Detroit is African American, compared to the national average of 12.3%. In fact, the average percentage of African American residents in the 25 most liberal cities in the country is 40.3%, more than three times the national rate.

The list of America’s most liberal cities reads like a who’s who of prominent African American communities. Gary, Washington D.C., Newark, Flint, Cleveland, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Birmingham have long had prominent black populations. While most black voters have consistently supported Democrats since the 1960s, it is the white liberals that have slowly withered away over the decades, leaving African Americans as the sole standard bearers for the left.

[B]Despite being the core of America’s liberal base, a major split exists between who the nation’s liberals are and who leads them politically. White politicians still control the levers of power within the Democratic Party, and black faces are rare around the decision making tables of America’s liberal advocacy groups.[/B]

While there are some noteworthy pockets of liberals who are not African American, these places end up being the exceptions. College towns like Berkeley and Cambridge have modest black populations, but remain bastions of upper middle-class, white, intellectual liberalism. These liberal communities, however, are more reminiscent of penguins clustering together around a shrinking iceberg, than of a vibrant growing political movement.

Further reinforcing this racial and ideological divide is BACVR research which shows that the most conservative city in America is the ultra white community of Provo, Utah, where less than 1% of the population is black.

Political pundits have noted the highly polarized nature of the American electorate, postulating that religion, age, education, wealth, and even the love of car racing are at the heart of the schism between liberals and conservatives. While these experts have identified some of the symptoms of our national rift, they have missed the root cause.

BACVR’s research gives us the real answer, disheartening as it may be. The great political divide in America today is not red vs. blue, north vs. south, costal vs. interior, or even rich vs. poor—it is now clearly black vs. white.

—————————————— [I] Phil Reiff and Jason Alderman are directors at the Bay Area Center for Voting Research, a nonpartisan think tank based in Berkeley.[/I][/FONT]

Gabrielle

2005-08-13 12:44 | User Profile

I don't believe it.

Petr

2005-08-13 13:22 | User Profile

Care to tell us why you don't believe it, Gabrielle? Empty sound-bites are annoying.

This process might not yet be complete, perhaps not even remotely complete, but the direction is clear and predictable enough - White liberals are going to die out, and conservatives are going to inherit the earth.

The question is - is it going to be the globalist neo-conservatives or ethno-religion separatist paleo-conservatives that will overcome? That part is up to [B]us[/B] (and the Providence of God).

Petr

Gabrielle

2005-08-14 02:03 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Petr]Care to tell us why you don't believe it, Gabrielle? Empty sound-bites are annoying.

This process might not yet be complete, perhaps not even remotely complete, but the direction is clear and predictable enough - White liberals are going to die out, and conservatives are going to inherit the earth.

The question is - is it going to be the globalist neo-conservatives or ethno-religion separatist paleo-conservatives that will overcome? That part is up to [B]us[/B] (and the Providence of God).

Petr[/QUOTE]

I take it you haven’t been to a college campus lately, smarty- pants.

OttoR

2005-08-14 02:09 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Petr]This is exactly the same process that has led right-wing, Likudnik-Lubavitcher Jews to gain more and more power within the Jewish community during the last few decades - liberal-leftist Jews are simply dying off or assimilating.

I consider the extinction of White liberals to be a very healthy phenomenon, a natural selection at its finest - and yes, natural selection doesn't create "new stuff" but rather conservatively weeds out those not worthy to exist, like liberals.

[url="http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/08/being_liberal_n.php"]http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/08/being_liberal_n.php[/url]

[font=Arial] [size=5]Being Liberal Now Means Being African American[/size]

Phil Reiff and Jason Alderman, Bay Area Center for Voting Research, Aug. 11

If American liberals had four legs and fur, they would have been put on the Endangered Species List following last year’s Presidential election. Defining who is liberal has become a national sport among politicians, as Democrats frantically run from the moniker, while Republicans hurl the invective blindly at everyone on the other side of the aisle.

New research done by the Bay Area Center for Voting Research (BACVR) reveals who the real liberals in American are and the answer is not the tree-hugging, ponytail wearing ex-hippies you might expect. Instead, the new face of American liberalism is of a decidedly different hue. The nation’s remaining liberals are overwhelming African Americans.

The BACVR study that ranks the political ideology of every major city in the country shows that cities with large black populations dominate the list of liberal communities. The research finds that Detroit is the most liberal city in the United States and has one of the highest concentrations of African American residents of any major city. Over 81% of the population in Detroit is African American, compared to the national average of 12.3%. In fact, the average percentage of African American residents in the 25 most liberal cities in the country is 40.3%, more than three times the national rate.

The list of America’s most liberal cities reads like a who’s who of prominent African American communities. Gary, Washington D.C., Newark, Flint, Cleveland, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Birmingham have long had prominent black populations. While most black voters have consistently supported Democrats since the 1960s, it is the white liberals that have slowly withered away over the decades, leaving African Americans as the sole standard bearers for the left.

Despite being the core of America’s liberal base, a major split exists between who the nation’s liberals are and who leads them politically. White politicians still control the levers of power within the Democratic Party, and black faces are rare around the decision making tables of America’s liberal advocacy groups.

While there are some noteworthy pockets of liberals who are not African American, these places end up being the exceptions. College towns like Berkeley and Cambridge have modest black populations, but remain bastions of upper middle-class, white, intellectual liberalism. These liberal communities, however, are more reminiscent of penguins clustering together around a shrinking iceberg, than of a vibrant growing political movement.

Further reinforcing this racial and ideological divide is BACVR research which shows that the most conservative city in America is the ultra white community of Provo, Utah, where less than 1% of the population is black.

Political pundits have noted the highly polarized nature of the American electorate, postulating that religion, age, education, wealth, and even the love of car racing are at the heart of the schism between liberals and conservatives. While these experts have identified some of the symptoms of our national rift, they have missed the root cause.

BACVR’s research gives us the real answer, disheartening as it may be. The great political divide in America today is not red vs. blue, north vs. south, costal vs. interior, or even rich vs. poor—it is now clearly black vs. white.

——————————————

Phil Reiff and Jason Alderman are directors at the Bay Area Center for Voting Research, a nonpartisan think tank based in Berkeley.[/font][/QUOTE] This article is ridiculous, nearly 60% of White females still vote for the Democrats every election.

robinder

2005-08-14 02:24 | User Profile

Nonsense, not even half the population votes.

Faust

2005-08-14 02:28 | User Profile

White Neocon marxists are just as bad as "Liberals" and they are not a dying breed.

robinder

2005-08-14 02:41 | User Profile

If these exit polls are credible, white women were more likely to vote Republican than Democrat in the last election.

[url]http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html[/url]

There is, of course, no use laboring under the illusion that the Republicans are somehow better than the Democrats, though.

Gabrielle

2005-08-14 02:48 | User Profile

Most white married women voted Republican and most white single women voted Democrat.

Faust

2005-08-14 02:55 | User Profile

Gabrielle

Yes you are very right, I have made this point a number of times. [QUOTE]Most white married women voted Republican and most white single women voted Democrat.[/QUOTE]

Angeleyes

2005-08-16 00:07 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Most white married women voted Republican and most white single women voted Democrat.[/QUOTE] Does it then logically follow that most white married women are opposed to abortion?

Does it also logically follow that marrying off those eligible single women, some of whom are on the rebound, will further skew the voting demographic?

Could it be that Betty Friedan was right, that marriage is some kind of plot to politically control women? Me, I think not. Raising kids will now and again dispell some of one's liberal illusions about life.

The above stats makes you wonder why Pres Clinton went to all that trouble for the defense of marriage act, as it would seem to be political suicide. (The issues of his own marriage notwithstanding.)

AE

il ragno

2005-08-16 23:56 | User Profile

[QUOTE]Natural selection doesn't create "new stuff" but rather conservatively weeds out those not worthy to exist, like liberals.[/QUOTE]

Even for [I]you[/I], this is a remarkably stupid statement. Which is saying something.

Bardamu

2005-08-17 00:57 | User Profile

It would be nice if the article bothered to define "liberal". Of course most blacks vote Democrat. It's the same as voting Hand Out.

Petr

2005-08-17 04:02 | User Profile

[COLOR=DarkRed][COLOR=DarkRed][B][I] - "Even for you, this is a remarkably stupid statement." [/I] [/B] [/COLOR] [/COLOR]

Exactly how? I assume that you think that I advocate Nazi-like extermination of liberals.

Like all "haw-haw" funny people, you are unable to appreciate subtle sarcasm. We Finns are masters of poker-faced humor.

Petr

il ragno

2005-08-17 05:41 | User Profile

We Finns are masters of poker-faced humor.

Yes, your remarkably high suicide rates attest to that.

Walter Yannis

2005-08-17 06:51 | User Profile

[QUOTE=il ragno]Yes, your remarkably high suicide rates attest to that.[/QUOTE]

I like the Finns a great deal, but you are unfortunately correct. It's an alcohol problem mostly, I suspect.

G.Larson

2005-08-17 08:30 | User Profile

Liberalism is the dictate of mother pig, conservatism is the reaction of father pig. Both have turned out to be different hoof's connected to the same beast.

Petr

2005-08-17 12:15 | User Profile

[COLOR=DarkRed][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "Yes, your remarkably high suicide rates attest to that."[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

We master gallows humor as well.

Petr

jeffersonian

2005-08-17 15:59 | User Profile

[QUOTE]I like the Finns a great deal, but you are unfortunately correct. It's an alcohol problem mostly, I suspect.[/QUOTE]

I too like the Finn's, married one. But must disagree, at least in my wife's case about the alcohol. With the exception of the stress of putting up with me, in my experience, Finns are remarkably stable, stalwart, and hard working.

Of course she has relocated to AZ, many Finn's in the UP of Mich. and other areas where the winters are long and cold i guess you gotta do something to stay warm.

Walter Yannis

2005-08-17 16:17 | User Profile

[URL=http://www.mcdl.org/Stats/gnpsuicide.htm]Suicide Rates among high GDP Nations[/URL]