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Thread ID: 19538 | Posts: 13 | Started: 2005-08-10
2005-08-10 10:15 | User Profile
You [I]cannot [/I] make this stuff up. But you can, and should, send it up a chimney with its author.
[url]http://www.beliefnet.com/story/116/story_11636_1.html[/url]
[SIZE=4]Should Israel Be the 51st State? [/SIZE] [I]A crazy, logical step whose time has come. [/I]
By Rabbi Shmuley Boteach
Excerpted from the Jerusalem Post with permission of the author.
For the first time in our history, we Americans have learned what it is like to be the targets of irrational, international hatred. We have learned what is it like to be attacked without provocation. Most of all, we now know how it feels to be accused of being an aggressor when we simply act in self-defense.
Of course, these are things that the Jews have known for millennia. And this puts America and the Jews in a strange but shared category.
When other world nations are subjected to brutal and unmotivated attack, they are usually granted the world’s sympathies. Not so with the Jews. Not so with America. The reaction of the world to September 11th was a few moments of shocked silence and then an immediate onslaught of, “I told you so’s” and "what do you expect when you throw your weight around with such arrogance?"
Most Americans are rightly outraged as to how our preemptive actions of self-defense are interpreted as unprovoked American aggression. But for the Jews this is just so ho-hum. Israel has, of course, observed this phenomenon for decades. When Israel takes action against terrorists that wreak havoc with suicide bombing after suicide bombing, they are condemned as merciless aggressors. Throughout Europe, Israel is reviled as a state that tramples on Palestinian rights. China has virtually ceased reporting on Palestinian suicide bombings, choosing instead to report only on Israel’s response.
How do we explain such patent absurdity (after all, Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein are the manifestly evil ones, right?) unless we see it in the larger context of America experiencing something akin to anti-Semitism?
And the clincher of how America has now become the world’s Jews was the recent comparison, by the German "Justice" minister Herta Daeubler-Gmelin, of President George W. Bush to Adolph Hitler. The irony of comparing the leader of the democracy that liberated Germany from Hitler to the dictator himself is matched only by the constant comparisons of Israel, the country that was built by the survivors of Hitler’s genocide, to the Nazi beasts who tried to extinguish them.
Now, these contemporary comparisons between the United States and world Jewry can be treated as a mere coincidence. Or else we can make the most of the hand the world has dealt us. I propose that this series of factors suggest a political and practical application. Now that the Americans have become the Jews of the world, I propose to formalize the arrangement by making Israel the 51st state in the Union.
Have I gone off my flight path, you ask? On the contrary, Israel becoming a formal American state is the most logical thing in the world.
Forming an alliance--officially--between Israel and the U.S. would indeed produce a mutually beneficial situation. Right now Israel is caught between a rock and a terrifying cliff. Israeli civilians are blown up and murdered with weekly and sometimes daily regularity. They cannot ride a bus in peace. They cannot feel comfortable eating pizza. And yet they cannot do what would be necessary to actually eliminate terrorism because of external pressure. To be sure, Israel easily has the military and economic resources to destroy the Palestinian terrorist infrastructure and exile the uber terrorist Yasser Arafat. But international pressures, exercised by the world through the medium of the United States, paralyze Israel. So Israel is prevented from acting firmly and resolutely--as the United States did in Afghanistan.
But what if Israel were actually an American state? Any attack against Israeli civilians would be an attack against Americans. Then it would be absurd for President Bush to be pressured by other world leaders to curb the military response. Israel-turned-American commando units would finally go in and remove Arafat’s terror regime once and for all, just as the United States changed regimes in Afghanistan.
The strategic benefits to the United States are also considerable. To those Americans who will surely say, “Why would we want to adopt Israel which is always under attack,” I say: Wake up, America. You’re under attack anyway and making Israel into the 51st state would decrease, rather than increase terror.
What America most desperately needs in the post-9/11 world is a permanent presence in the region of the world that spawns all the terror. The only way to guarantee American safety in the long term is to have a permanent presence in the Middle East that can be used as a launching pad to eradicate terrorism. Right now, American B-2 bombers need to fly all the way from the United States in bombing sorties against Afghanistan, and America is practically begging the Saudis to allow us to use our bases there in a war against Iraq. For permanent military instillations we’ve been reduced to aligning ourselves with Qatar, a country that purports to be an American ally while simultaneously operating the worldwide Al Jazeera television network, a major source of anti-American propaganda throughout the Arab world.
But with Israel as a state, all of our problems would be solved. The United States would be able to easily punish all anti-American attacks. And by making Israel a state, America acquires a crack military in the process that is highly experienced in fighting terror. America would also be able to watch over the Middle Eastern oil fields, upon which we are so dependent, from very close range.
To be sure, many Jews will oppose this idea. They will argue that for 2000 years the Jews struggled for their own state. Are we crazy to give it up? Well, it’s time for a reality check. Israel doesn’t do much even today without American approval anyhow. For better or for worse, Israel already behaves like an American client. Why not simply formalize what is already being practiced?
Furthermore, what Israel has discovered over the past 60 years is that the Arabs are an implacable enemy and seem far more ferociously dedicated to Israel’s eventual destruction than the Jews are to Israel’s survival. Just look at Arab gains and Israeli losses in the past decade alone. Israel allowed themselves to be pressured into the disastrous Oslo agreements. How Israel will survive an army of Palestinian militants that are directly on their border--especially with their hands tied by the international community--is anyone’s guess. Let’s call a spade a spade. The Arabs will only ever be satisfied when Israel is pushed into the sea, and without an American green light to get rid of the Palestinian terrorocracy, we cannot be entirely sure that there will even be an Israel, G-d forbid, in a decade. That is, unless it becomes an American state.
Besides, Jews and Judaism have thrived in the United States as never before. There are more Jews in the U.S. than in Israel, six million to four million. Israelis, too, love all things American. And Israel is just as close to Washington, D.C. as Hawaii--about ten hours by plane.
As for the Jewishness of Israel being compromised by becoming an American state, we have the state of Utah to look to as an inspired example. I am close to the Mormons and lecture in Salt Lake City often. In Utah, the Mormons basically have their own state, maintaining cohesiveness and a strong religious identity, while being patriotic members of the larger American republic. In fact, they enjoy the best of both worlds. Their schools are funded by the state, yet attached to nearly every public school is a Mormon religious school, funded by the Church, where the pupils go as soon as formal classes are over. The Prophet of the Mormon Church is the most powerful man in Utah, and for all intents and purposes, when you are in Utah you are in Mormon country.
Similarly, Israel would be "Jewish country," preserving its uniquely Jewish heritage and character while being part of the larger American republic. And with the current state of the Israeli economy, federal dollars being put toward education and defense would come in very handy. The United States is already pouring billions of dollars into Israel in foreign aid each year, and millions of private citizens, in large part fundamentalist Christians, support Israel through private contributions. Why not just change all this and make it tax dollars instead?
And to those who fear that such a move would eliminate Hebrew as a vital language, just look at the propagation of Spanish-speaking U.S. citizens in California and Miami. Bilingual schools are a must in cities that have a large minority population. Hebrew as well could remain a living language, and Judaism a living religion.
While the idea might strike some as crazy, to me it is self-evident. The United States and Israel are both democratic nations. Both are deeply religious and are founded on the Judeo-Christian ethic. Both are united in their fight against terror, and are increasingly loathed by the world for taking actions to defend themselves against unrepentant murderers. Both require peace in the Middle East as their foremost foreign policy goals. And finally, both already have lots of Jews.
For two centuries, America has been seen by oppressed immigrants the world over as "a promised land." Why not have America officially acquire the real thing, and make it all official?
2005-08-10 11:56 | User Profile
May heavens protect us, it would be like inviting burglars into our home.
Ponce <------buying more ammo.
2005-08-10 12:15 | User Profile
IR,
Shumley has this backasswards. I think he meant to write that Israel should annex the U.S. For all practical purposes they have when it comes to foreign policy. Reading this one can get confused with his use of "we". It's hard to tell if he means the U.S. or Israel to the uninitianted. This is a common theme with folkslike Medved and Prager meant to put into the minds of Americans that Israel and America are, as "christian" ZionNut and snake handler Gary Bauer said, "joined at the heart."
You have to love this:
[QUOTE]China has virtually ceased reporting on Palestinian suicide bombings, choosing instead to report only on Israelââ¬â¢s response.[/QUOTE] And yet, that doesn't stop Israel from selling U.S. high tech to their military.
2005-08-10 13:43 | User Profile
while we're at it we should just go ahead an annex Mexico.:alucard::caiphas:
2005-08-10 14:41 | User Profile
:caiphas: !!!
"Here, quick! Pin on this yellow star. We're all Jews now!"
No thanks, rabbi. :glare:
2005-08-10 18:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]You [I]cannot [/I] make this stuff up. But you can, and should, send it up a chimney with its author.
[url]http://www.beliefnet.com/story/116/story_11636_1.html[/url]
[SIZE=4]Should Israel Be the 51st State? [/SIZE] [I]A crazy, logical step whose time has come. [/I]
By Rabbi Shmuley Boteach
Excerpted from the Jerusalem Post with permission of the author.
... Now that the Americans have become the Jews of the world, I[I] [B]propose to formalize the arrangement by making Israel the 51st state in the Union[/B].[/I] Have I gone off my flight path, you ask? On the contrary, Israel becoming a formal American state is the most logical thing in the world.[/QUOTE]At one time conservative icon William F. Buckley suggested that Israel become the 51st state. He lives and has yet to be hanged.
2005-08-11 02:13 | User Profile
ââ¬Å[QUOTE]Why would we want to adopt Israel which is always under attack,ââ¬Â I say: Wake up, America. Youââ¬â¢re under attack anyway [/QUOTE]and this, of course, has absoultely nothing to do with our "ally" and proposed 51st state, now does it? Well at least he has the part about the U.S being the world's Jews somewhat right, but not for the reasons he hints at. Can a kike get through one article without mentioning anti-semitism, or the "holocaust" it truly must be impossible for them.
2005-08-11 03:12 | User Profile
Funny article... if I saw anyone posting that on some forum, I'd think he's trolling.
2005-08-11 05:28 | User Profile
This article nearly made me barf. This kike Boteach is such a slimy, lying piece of Jew filth!
For the first time in our history, we Americans have learned what it is like to be the targets of irrational, international hatred. We have learned what is it like to be attacked without provocation. Most of all, we now know how it feels to be accused of being an aggressor when we simply act in self-defense. Yeah, right. Like this kike is really an American. He's just a parasite who lives here.
9/11 did not happen without provocation -- it happened because of American meddling in the Middle East on behalf of Israel.
The attack on Iraq had nothing to do with self-defense, so accusations of Americans being the aggressors in that instance are right on target.
The rest of the article is more textbook Jewish lies and skullduggery:
Forming an alliance--officially--between Israel and the U.S. would indeed produce a mutually beneficial situation. Much like a tick and a deer.
Right now Israel is caught between a rock and a terrifying cliff. Israeli civilians are blown up and murdered with weekly and sometimes daily regularity. They cannot ride a bus in peace. And deservedly so.
They cannot feel comfortable eating pizza. I couldn't either if it didn't have sausage or pepperoni on it.
And yet they cannot do what would be necessary to actually eliminate terrorism because of external pressure. To be sure, Israel easily has the military and economic resources to destroy the Palestinian terrorist infrastructure and exile the uber terrorist Yasser Arafat. Those resources came straight from the US, so the Israelis have nothing to be proud of. Especially since they're not fighting against a real military. And even still, I doubt the kikes can stop the Palestinian militants completely.
But international pressures, exercised by the world through the medium of the United States, paralyze Israel. So Israel is prevented from acting firmly and resolutely--as the United States did in Afghanistan. Absolute bullsh!t. The US has vetoed nearly every single UN resolution against Israel, even when the vote in favor was unanimous otherwise.
Furthermore, what Israel has discovered over the past 60 years is that the Arabs are an implacable enemy and seem far more ferociously dedicated to Israelââ¬â¢s eventual destruction than the Jews are to Israelââ¬â¢s survival. Maybe they wouldn't be implacable if you'd quit occupying their land and making their lives a living hell, f_ckwit.
Israelis, too, love all things American. Especially our money.
As for the Jewishness of Israel being compromised by becoming an American state... It would clearly be compromised, and that would be one of the only good things about such an arrangement. Any anti-Semite could move there and relieve himself on the Wailing Wall after a night of drinking yummy German beer. :cheers:
Similarly, Israel would be "Jewish country," preserving its uniquely Jewish heritage and character while being part of the larger American republic. It would not be able to do so. Any non-Jew could move there, and no Jewish religious observances could be forced upon anyone (since the 1st Amendment applies in all states of the union).
And with the current state of the Israeli economy, federal dollars being put toward education and defense would come in very handy. The United States is already pouring billions of dollars into Israel in foreign aid each year, and millions of private citizens, in large part fundamentalist Christians, support Israel through private contributions. Why not just change all this and make it tax dollars instead? It already is tax dollars. :furious: But now we see the REAL motivation for Boteach's idea.
2005-08-11 05:46 | User Profile
Angler,
There is one thing that this dipstick can't quite bring himself to say. Instead, he is beating around the bush. He should come out and say he wants "transfer", the forced removal of all the Palestinians and he wants us to sanction it and back them up.
He is one arrogant bastard. If anyone deserves the gas chamber it is this jerk.
2005-08-11 06:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Angler,
There is one thing that this dipstick can't quite bring himself to say. Instead, he is beating around the bush. He should come out and say he wants "transfer", the forced removal of all the Palestinians and he wants us to sanction it and back them up. Good point. On the other hand, there are many other Jewish supremacists who are not shy about saying that. And it's not even as bad as what they're probably thinking, i.e., that all the Palestinian men, women, and children should be exterminated outright. And since they use US money, weapons, and political muscle to get away with whatever they do, the US will end up with even more blood on its hands and holding the bill.
The Jewish supremacists are a truly vile cancer, especially in the West. At some point, I fear the only effective way to deal with them will be to go underground and start taking some drastic measures -- starting with the JDL and other Jewish "tough guys." They need to be beaten into submission.
He is one arrogant bastard. If anyone deserves the gas chamber it is this jerk.[/QUOTE]Amen to that.
2005-08-11 11:59 | User Profile
Shmuley-boo definitely has [B]not[/B] thought this thing through - once Israel becomes an American state, it is no longer able to legally prevent non-White immigrants from flooding into the country.
You could tip off Black and Mexicans that Israel is an "easy pickings" territory...
Also, wouldn't this annexation also mean that Israelis would no longer be the sovereign masters of their precious nuclear weapons? I'd think that "Samson Option" would be a lot trickier to carry out.
Petr
2005-08-11 13:02 | User Profile
Nah, they would leave the nukes over there and in the Zionists hands as "forward basing".