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Thread ID: 19516 | Posts: 27 | Started: 2005-08-09
2005-08-09 13:19 | User Profile
** XXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX TUE AUG 09, 2003 08:02:25 ET
JAGGER ROCKS BUSH: 'HOW COME YOU'RE SO WRONG, MY SWEET NEO-CON'
"You call yourself a Christian, I call you a hypocrite/ You call yourself a patriot. Well, I think your are full of sh*t!... How come you're so wrong, my sweet neo-con."
Ready to drop in the coming weeks, a new Bush-bashing tune from the ROLLING STONES: "Sweet Neo Con."
"It is direct," Mick Jagger says with a laugh to fresh editions of NEWSWEEK. "Keith [Richards] said, 'It's not really metaphorical.' I think he's a bit worried because he lives in the U.S." Jagger explains. "But I don't."
The full lyric also mocks National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice.
News about the song surfaced a few weeks ago with many expecting that it would not make the finally cut on the new CD, A BIGGER BANG.
The band kicks off its world tour in Boston on Aug. 21.
Developing...
Filed By Matt Drudge Reports are moved when circumstances warrant [url]http://www.drudgereport.com[/url] for updates (c)DRUDGE REPORT 2005
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2005-08-09 13:47 | User Profile
I smell another #1 hit from the Rolling Stones coming down the pipe.....bunch of geezers that they are.
Will Mick Jagger be writing columns in the American Conservative henceforth?
2005-08-09 14:06 | User Profile
Will Mick Jagger be writing columns in the American Conservative henceforth?
He could practise on "FreedomUnderground".
2005-08-09 14:22 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]....bunch of geezers that they are. [/QUOTE]
I can't imagine how they get their iron lungs in the recording studio.
2005-08-09 14:39 | User Profile
Any mocking of the Boy Emperor is always welcome, however, I think that any male who has made out with David Bowie is automatically excluded from being a paleocon.
2005-08-09 15:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]Any mocking of the Boy Emperor is always welcome, however, I think that any male who has made out with David Bowie is automatically excluded from being a paleocon.[/QUOTE]
Was that before or after Jagger stole Bowie's wife, Angie? Maybe Jagger went through David to get to Angie!
Yep, automatic exclusion from Paleodom. Could we place him in the Libertarian camp perhaps?
2005-08-09 15:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Could we place him in the Libertarian camp perhaps?[/QUOTE] Perhaps, but maybe he's learned from his mistakes?
2005-08-09 16:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE]...I think that any male who has made out with David Bowie is automatically excluded from being a paleocon.[/QUOTE]
Ground Control to Major Mick?? :yucky:
2005-08-09 16:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]I smell another #1 hit from the Rolling Stones coming down the pipe.....bunch of geezers that they are.
Will Mick Jagger be writing columns in the American Conservative henceforth?[/QUOTE]I think we must forget sometimes how isolated we are. When we say "dang neo-conservatives" we mean "dang [B]neo[/B]conservatives", others usually mainly mean dang neo[B]conservatives[/B], with "neo" just thrown in as an afterthought mainly. I think. From mainstream liberaladom, where Mick I think resides with other rock and rollers, that's the dominant perspective.
The awareness of neoconservatives as a separate species certainly is intriguing though, and I hear it really from politically knowledgable influential liberals in a way that I never heard before. What it means I'm not certain, except that they aren't becoming paleocons themselves. But are they sending out feelers for a left/right convergence?:confused:
2005-08-09 18:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]I think we must forget sometimes how isolated we are. When we say "dang neo-conservatives" we mean "dang neoconservatives", others usually mainly mean dang neoconservatives, with "neo" just thrown in as an afterthought mainly. I think. From mainstream liberaladom, where Mick I think resides with other rock and rollers, that's the dominant perspective.
The awareness of neoconservatives as a separate species certainly is intriguing though, and I hear it really from politically knowledgable influential liberals in a way that I never heard before. What it means I'm not certain, except that they aren't becoming paleocons themselves. But are they sending out feelers for a left/right convergence?:confused:[/QUOTE] Perhaps these guys have a little marketing savy... Reading headlines and listening to radio shows one can pick up on the liberal conservative vibe in this country. What does new music from an old group need to grab headlines, that's right controversy. So we take a "liberal" point of view, toss in some current buzzwords from the neocon radio shows, add a dash of religion and voila-- Baked Rolling Stone Souffle.
2005-08-10 17:01 | User Profile
Stones don't beat around Bush with new single Rock's bad boys steered clear of politics for 40 years but, as Bruce Ward writes, the Stones are rolling toward Ottawa with a direct hit on George Bush.
Bruce Ward The Ottawa Citizen
Wednesday, August 10, 2005
CREDIT: Jan Pitman, The Associated Press Charlie Watts, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Ron Wood might perform Sweet Neo Con in Ottawa on Aug. 28. The anti-George Bush song ' is direct,' Mr. Jagger concedes.
Call it Sympathy For The Dubya. Mick Jagger takes a poke at U.S. President George Bush in an angry new song that is critical of morality in the White House.
The song, titled Sweet Neo Con, has the potential to foment a backlash against the band, and may even restore the Rolling Stones' reputation as rock's bad boys.
Sweet Neo Con packs a punch but is short on subtlety: "You call yourself a Christian, I call you a hypocrite/ You call yourself a patriot, well, I think you're full of s---."
The Jagger rant is said to be one of the scrappiest, rawest songs on the Stones' upcoming album A Bigger Bang, which will be released early next month.
"It is direct," Mr. Jagger concedes in an interview that appears in the latest Newsweek magazine. "Keith (Richards) said, 'It's not really metaphorical.' I think he's a bit worried because he lives in the U.S. But I don't."
The Dixie Chicks caused the biggest controversy to date for an attack on Mr. Bush. It happened in March 2003, when lead singer Natalie Maines said she was ashamed that Mr. Bush was from Texas, her home state.
Her comment came shortly before U.S. soldiers began fighting in Iraq. It caused a furore among country fans in the U.S. In the backlash, their music was banned from several radio stations in conservative states.
But will the Stones pay a price for their jab at Mr. Bush?
The first leg of the tour, which runs until Dec. 1, is practically sold out now. Banning the Stones on U.S. radio stations would have little effect because few stations even play their new songs, and haven't for 20 years.
And Mr. Jagger has not said whether the band will perform the song when the Stones launch a world tour in Boston on Aug. 21. They play in Ottawa on Aug. 28.
Certainly the Stones are unlikely to be booed at their two shows in Boston. John Kerry, the Democratic presidential candidate who was soundly defeated by Mr. Bush in last November's election, is a beloved Bostonian.
Should the band perform Sweet Neo Con when they appear in Ottawa the following Sunday for their first Canadian show, chances are they'll be loudly cheered. That's what happened when the Dixie Chicks mentioned the Bush "incident" when they played the Corel Centre in August 2003.
However, Mr. Jagger may get a frosty reception from fans if he denounces Mr. Bush when the Stones tour hits Washington, D.C. in early October. They are also scheduled to play shows in Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia and Florida in October -- all of which are "red states" and strongholds for Mr. Bush.
When it comes to politics, rockers don't seem to make much difference in the U.S.
Bruce Springsteen, REM's Michael Stipe and John Fogerty campaigned against Mr. Bush in their Vote for Change rock extravaganza last October. But their shows in Ohio -- a key battleground -- did not prevent Mr. Bush from carrying the state.
For all their swagger, the Stones are seldom overtly political in their songs. Mr. Jagger's lyrics for Street Fighting Man and Salt of the Earth from the 1968 album Beggar's Banquet were taken far more seriously by critics than by Mr. Jagger himself.
[url]http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=0aed0b19-2ee9-432e-a76e-60479ff959dd[/url]
2005-08-10 17:13 | User Profile
Are your wittle fweelings hurt, Gabby. Big bad Mick throwing sticks and "stones" at your wittle Georgy Boy??
And Georgy's such an innocent little pup!
I can't wait to buy the new Rolling Stones album with the hit single "Sweet Neocon" blasting on my stereo.
2005-08-10 17:31 | User Profile
This has the whores of Neocon talk radio ticked off.
Q, not only have I heard Limbaugh fussing over this, saying that Jagger must be confused and thinks a neocon is a Christian conservative, but our good friend Neal Boortz said that he can't figure out what a "so-called neocon" is. (He could try looking in the mirror) I see this as a good thing. I want folks to realize that Neocons are not the same as Conservatives, for all too often the Neocons are modest and with a few excdeptions, drop the "neo" part. They should be proud like Max Boot.
2005-08-10 17:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]This has the whores of Neocon talk radio ticked off.
Q, not only have I heard Limbaugh fussing over this, saying that Jagger must be confused and thinks a neocon is a Christian conservative, but our good friend Neal Boortz said that he can't figure out what a "so-called neocon" is. (He could try looking in the mirror) I see this as a good thing. I want folks to realize that Neocons are not the same as Conservatives, for all too often the Neocons are modest and with a few excdeptions, drop the "neo" part. They should be proud like Max Boot.[/QUOTE] that would be NEO= New CON= con artist
2005-08-10 19:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius] Q, not only have I heard Limbaugh fussing over this, saying that Jagger must be confused and thinks a neocon is a Christian conservative, but our good friend Neal Boortz said that he can't figure out what a "so-called neocon" is. (He could try looking in the mirror) I see this as a good thing. I want folks to realize that Neocons are not the same as Conservatives, for all too often the Neocons are modest and with a few excdeptions, drop the "neo" part. They should be proud like Max Boot.[/QUOTE] Ahhhrgg! You spoke the name of He Who Must Not Be Named! My ears, they're burning! Fists, involuntarily clenching... Throat tightening... Can't use complete sentences...
2005-08-10 20:25 | User Profile
:lol: Q,
He tends to have that effect with me when he speaks recent gems like this one:
If gas prices go up anymore we may have to see about taking over one of those oil producing countries over there.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sometime ago he told a story about someone sending a box of brownies to the station and him eating them. It turned out they were hash brownies. I'd say he got another box with the above stupid and ignorant statement. To think, folks actually depend upon the likes of him, Rush, etc for important news and critical thinking.
2005-08-11 04:22 | User Profile
Jagger and Richard have been taking the piss out of anything they could see for about forty years, in between debauchery, drug abuse, and general hedonism.
No surprise they are taking a shot at this, since Green Day has already done its thing . . .
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Are your wittle fweelings hurt, Gabby. Big bad Mick throwing sticks and "stones" at your wittle Georgy Boy??
And Georgy's such an innocent little pup!
I can't wait to buy the new Rolling Stones album with the hit single "Sweet Neocon" blasting on my stereo.[/QUOTE]
2005-08-11 04:27 | User Profile
This is great news! Anything that puts a negative spotlight on the neocons, their idol George Bush, and their warmongering lies can only be a good thing.
And wow -- those lyrics don't mince words. Good!
2005-08-12 22:55 | User Profile
Jagger is an ugly, pathetic waste of flesh.
2005-08-12 22:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Are your wittle fweelings hurt, Gabby. Big bad Mick throwing sticks and "stones" at your wittle Georgy Boy??
And Georgy's such an innocent little pup!
I can't wait to buy the new Rolling Stones album with the hit single "Sweet Neocon" blasting on my stereo.[/QUOTE]
You would waste your money on that scumbag, mentalhead.
2005-08-12 23:05 | User Profile
Gabrielle,
Misery loves companionship, doesn't it? The screeching banshees on Neocon talkradio and, of course, Fox news have been squalling like small children over this song. I'm not a big fan of Mick Jagger's personal life, but I tell you what. Anything that ticks off the Neocon liars I get a kick out of. :lol:
2005-08-12 23:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Gabrielle,
Misery loves companionship, doesn't it? The screeching banshees on Neocon talkradio and, of course, Fox news have been squalling like small children over this song. I'm not a big fan of Mick Jagger's personal life, but I tell you what. Anything that ticks off the Neocon liars I get a kick out of. :lol:[/QUOTE]
Wicked Sertorius! :oh:
2005-08-13 06:02 | User Profile
I am not a Paleo-con but I admire many of them and I have to say that I am very pleased that the distinction between a conservative and Neo-conservative has finally broken out into popular culture. When an aging limey Rock n' roller can make the distinction, that means big progress has been made.
2005-08-13 06:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Wicked Sertorius! :oh:[/QUOTE]Gabrielle, I don't understand your new political statements. You were recently banned from Stormfront for pushing this Pro-Bush line too much. What exactly are you? You claim to be a White Nationalist/Conservative but the points you defend aren't much different from a Fox News Channel special. :argue:
2005-08-13 12:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=OttoR]Gabrielle, I don't understand your new political statements. You were recently banned from Stormfront for pushing this Pro-Bush line too much. What exactly are you? You claim to be a White Nationalist/Conservative but the points you defend aren't much different from a Fox News Channel special. :argue:[/QUOTE]
**I was not banned from stormfront for my pro-Bush line! **
Mick jew Jagger is scum... don't like it... too bad! :cowboy:
As far as Sertorius goes, I was just playing with him, and I am sure he realized that.
2005-08-15 22:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]**I was not banned from stormfront for my pro-Bush line! **
Mick jew Jagger is scum... don't like it... too bad! :cowboy:
As far as Sertorius goes, I was just playing with him, and I am sure he realized that.[/QUOTE] Mick Jagger may be a bisexual, licentious, Jesus hating, womanizing arse, not to mention the ugliest man who can't sing to make bazillions out of fronting for a mangy rock and roll band, and Keith Richard may be the only living proof that skeletons can play guitar with enough blood replacement
but
Honky Tonk Woman
is the finest rock and roll tune that ever hit air. Donny and Marie never could put out a tune that good. :biggrin:
AE
2005-08-16 04:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes]Mick Jagger may be a bisexual, licentious, Jesus hating, womanizing arse, not to mention the ugliest man who can't sing to make bazillions out of fronting for a mangy rock and roll band, and Keith Richard may be the only living proof that skeletons can play guitar with enough blood replacement
but
Honky Tonk Woman
is the finest rock and roll tune that ever hit air. Donny and Marie never could put out a tune that good. :biggrin:
AE[/QUOTE] :rockon: