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Thread ID: 19449 | Posts: 8 | Started: 2005-08-05
2005-08-05 17:53 | User Profile
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4125640.stm]Croatia marks Storm anniversary[/url]
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Thousands of Croats in the town of Knin have celebrated the 10th anniversary of a Croatian offensive which crushed a breakaway Serb republic in the region.
Croatian Prime Minister Ivo Sanader, attending a military parade, said the Operation Storm offensive in 1995 was magnificent and liberating.
But Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Draskovic said the anniversary was tragic and should not be celebrated.
Two hundred thousand Serbs were driven from the Krajina region in 1995.
Croat General Ante Gotovina is wanted by The Hague for alleged war crimes during Operation Storm.
'Last battle'
The speaker of the Croatian parliament, Vladimir Seks, described the operation as a "luminous victory" for the Croatian army.
"Today, with pride and dignity, Croatia marks the day of victory and homeland thanksgiving day," he said.
"Today we mark the 10th anniversary of Storm, the mother of all battles, the final and the last battle of the Homeland War, the last battle and, let us hope, the last armed battle in Croatia in both the past and the future."
The BBC's Matt Prodger in Belgrade says Operation Storm proved to be controversial.
On the one hand it enabled Croat refugees forced out by the Serbs to return to their homes, but it also resulted in the Serb exodus into neighbouring Bosnia and Serbia, as well as murders of Serbs who remained behind.
Serb ceremony
In a conciliatory gesture, Croatian President Stipe Mesic on Friday asked for forgiveness from those wronged in the name of his country.
On Thursday, several hundred Serbs attended a ceremony at a Belgrade church to remember those who died in the Krajina exodus.
Relatives of the dead and missing also staged a silent protest outside the Croatian embassy.
Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica has described Operation Storm as the biggest example of ethnic cleansing since World War II.
But Croatia says there is no comparison with the genocide of 8,000 Muslims by Serbs at Srebrenica in the same year. Story from BBC NEWS: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/europe/4125640.stm[/url]
Published: 2005/08/05 17:30:02 GMT
2005-08-05 18:13 | User Profile
Tex - do you have a good url that puts the events of the balkan wars in simple terms or short form ? That whole place was a mess for much of the 1990's. Ive read the wikipedia articles but I still have a hard time understanding who were the good guys vs bad. I have a hard time having sympathy for the muslim albanians that the serbs rolled over. Basically as I understand it, the balkan mess was a series of wars, in the west (croatia) and the south with the albanian serbs.
yugoslav wars [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_wars[/url]
kosovo wars [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War[/url]
2005-08-05 18:37 | User Profile
Josey, I think the Serbs and Croats both have legitimate gripes against each other that go back many years, and I am too ignorant of their history to take sides there. Otherwise, my Balkan rule of thumb is that whichever Christians are fighting the Albanian Muslims at the moment are the good guys. :thumbsup:
2005-08-05 19:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JoseyWales]Tex - do you have a good url that puts the events of the balkan wars in simple terms or short form ? [/QUOTE]
No JW, I don't.
I have some friends and business contacts in Croatia and I just like the Croats. They were off work today celebrating.
Surprisingly enough, a good number of the Croats in northern Croatia are blond-haired and very ethnically/racially conscious. If not for their ancestors, we might all be bowing to Mecca five times a day.
The Croats are Catholic and the Serbs are Orthodox. While there is no love lost between the two, they're greatest enemy is without a doubt the islamic camel jockeys/Turks.
2005-08-06 00:43 | User Profile
Big Croatian expat community in Chicago area. Used to be a good sized Serb expat community in Western Pennsylvania.
The Serbo Croatian language remains similar but different, prime issue being cyrillic versus latin letters, and a series of accents on pronounciation that I never had the time to fathom. Idiom I am sure differs at this point. Core break of those two slavic peoples is Catholic versus Orthodox Slav, and to a certain extent, the number of centuries of Turkish domination (Serbs) versus the very much Europeanized, or Italicized, Croats on the Adriatic Coast.
The 1995 offensive could not have happened without US funded contractors, many of them retired US Army types, and detailed training, that took the Croatian militias and made them better at combined arms warfare. That, and the complete neutralization of any air capability the Serbs had by the NATO no fly zone.
I was in a local NATO organ then. It was to my view the wrong enemy being supported against the wrong enemy, (ethnic cleansing with a NATO nod and a wink, a population transfer) while NATO protected the Muslims of Bosnia.
A mess.
No glory there for anyone involved, the US and Western media chose from three sets of pissed off at each other groups of assholes the Serbs as the biggest of the lot.
Milosavic's ham handed methods fed fuel to that fire.
AE
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]No JW, I don't.
I have some friends and business contacts in Croatia and I just like the Croats. They were off work today celebrating.
Surprisingly enough, a good number of the Croats in northern Croatia are blond-haired and very ethnically/racially conscious. If not for their ancestors, we might all be bowing to Mecca five times a day.
The Croats are Catholic and the Serbs are Orthodox. While there is no love lost between the two, they're greatest enemy is without a doubt the islamic camel jockeys/Turks.[/QUOTE]
2005-08-06 04:23 | User Profile
So what I gather from reading here is that the conflict between the serbs and croats was a series of civil wars fought between whites, while the conflict between the serbs and the muslim albanian serbs was not.
2005-08-06 05:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JoseyWales]So what I gather from reading here is that the conflict between the serbs and croats was a series of civil wars fought between whites, while the conflict between the serbs and the muslim albanian serbs was not.[/QUOTE]
Truly remarkable diversity of interests you have, JW
If you believe Avro Manhattan, it wasn't white v. white, in mid-century -- except incidentally. It was Vatican v. Serbs. And it sickened even the Nazi's.
[url]http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/manhattan-vatican.html[/url]
2005-08-10 01:01 | User Profile
[font=Times New Roman][size=3]Croats were the allies of the German occupiers, 1941-45. Serbs fought the Nazis and the Croats in a guerilla war.
Croatia is a Catholic country, Serbia is a Protestant Christian country.
Serbs to this day get tried for "war crimes" (and the UN/ICC get to decide what is a "crime") in the Balkans, Muslims and Croats almost never do.
The Vatican Whore is closely tied to and allied with Croatia and openly hostile towards Serbia; our illegal 1999 war against the Serbs was done at the Pope's behest and on the orders of Slick Willie's criminal cabal.
It was also practice for what the globalist military regime plans to do here. Namely, to engage in the wholesale slaughter of Protestants and nationalist patriots conveniently slandered and defamed in the MSM with media distortions, outright lies, and clever fabrications.
Serbia is FAR from lily-white, but Croatia is as black a nation-state as the day is long. They'll get their eternal reward from on High, one day soon, though.[/size][/font]