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2005-08-03 21:34 | User Profile
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by Todd Brendan Fahey May 2000
As we are past the point of no return, and as your Intelligence has failed to ensnare me, Leary-style, this seems as good a time as any for to ask of you the following human questions:
1) Why is it necessary to keep secrets? What is there, Out There, which you do not wish for the Rest Of Us to know?; i.e., with your multi-billion-dollar history, and what with all that fancy hardware (HAARP-High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program; Chief White House adviser on weather modification Captain Howard T. Orville, 1958, said the US Gubm't was studying "ways to manipulate the charges of the Earth and sky and so affect the weather by using an electronic beam to ionise or de-ionise the atmosphere over a given area") and choice chemicals (LSD, DBZ, IT-290) you've had at your disposal with taxpayers' monies (Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, late-Director of the Technical Services Division of MK-Ultra, turned on an entire generation of young people, myself included, to drugs)...what is it that you've found, that is of such frightening proportions the Rest Of Us should be kept from understanding?
Bill Clinton was one of those day-trippers, at Oxford University (Rhodes Scholar; 33rd-degree Illuminated Mason), as was Lee Harvey Oswald (MK-Ultra guinea pig, Atsugi Marines Base, Japan)--John Hinckley (son of WorldVision founder and early George Bush-associate) was another of your white-out zombie projects; and Mark David Chapman, the nut who is said to have offed John Lennon (dissociative state; programmed; found reading [I]A Catcher in the Rye[/I], which is code of some type I've yet to understand, beyond the fact that dear reclusive J.D. Salinger, himself, was also an OSS/CIA boy, but ain't talking, wonder why?), seems real convenient.
And what of John Sidney McCain?--what [I]did[/I] go down at the Hanoi Hilton which makes the good Senator so invaluable to you? I know that [I]you[/I] know who he really is; but the American public hasn't a clue--what you've programmed him for--where he is to take our country and Constitution, over the next four or eight years? (Congressman Lawrence Patton MacDonald, D-GA, then-Chairman of the John Birch Society, was onto your plans, was heavy into State Department files, and was ready to blow the lid off the Master Conspiracy on the floor of the House of Representatives, when you took him out, using Soviet MiGs, in 1983, anyone remember KAL flight 007?, I do).
You've set yourself up nicely, this time, I must say. With McCain and George W. Bush (33rd-degree Illuminated Mason; Order of Skull & Bones, Chapter 322, Yale University) being #1 and #2 for the Imperial Throne. No one can question your foresight, your planning, your resolve.
But what is it that you're planning to do with Us, in the future? What, at any rate, that you do not think we could manage to accomplish for ourselves?
I don't have children (thankfully, probably), but I am concerned for them, nonetheless--as a teacher, an educator, a man wishing healthy competition and much joy and love between all. A world where there would be no reason for secrets (beyond a father's healthy counsel, that we may learn of these things when we are old enough).
[I]We are old enough[/I].
So, please, dear Directors of the Central Intelligence Agency, and to whom you answer, tell us what went down in Dallas in 1963 (John Fitzgerald Kennedy, being also an LSD-enthusiast--friend of Dr. Feelgood, Max Jacobsen, the defrocked physician who injected regularly Our President with concoctions of amphetamine and psychedelics--and who was having affairs, fairly simultaneously with Judith Exner, erstwhile gal-pal of Mafia boss Sam Giancana, and Marilyn Monroe, and who claimed to at least one associate that he "got depressed unless he got 'a strange piece of ass every day.'); and of the connection between John Sidney McCain and George W. Bush?
Or, might I ask, Who Are You? (to keep from us these things)
And to the American people: Who Are You? (to put up with a government that lies and wishes to enslave)
And of us all: What is it that we wish, for tomorrow, upon rising? More war games? (John McCain) and surrendering of our Constitutional privileges? (George W. Bush; Al Gore, controllable, dirty like seven chickens with Chinese communist government influence; Bill Bradley [nice man, seemingly, but 33rd-degree Illuminated Mason, Rhodes Scholar, pink as hell already].)
And what are you to do with a lone nut like me? (in this Internet age, with 400,000 Web-hits/daily)
All best wishes,
Todd Brendan Fahey author, [I]Wisdom's Maw: The Acid Novel [/I] (Far Gone Books, 1996) Ph.D. candidate, American Literature, University of Southwestern Louisiana Master's degree, Professional Writing, University of Southern California [url]http://www.fargonebooks.com[/url] [email]fargone@fargonebooks.com[/email]
P.S. Think about it ("Think for yourself and question authority"--Timothy Leary; like human nature itself, another of your projects you couldn't quite control).
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2005-08-04 01:48 | User Profile
Great post, tbf. (Assuming its true and you meant it.) I recant. (....assuming)
The John Birchers were anti-America, pro-Vietnam war agency front too, though, right?
I remember Flight 007 very well, but didn't know about Congressman McDonald. They murdered Congressman Leo Ryan at Jonestown, too, who went there to expose Jimmy Jones' mind control experiments for the firm. I can confirm from rather extensive reading over the years the claims you make about patsy Oswald, Hinckly, Chapman (didn't know about JD Salinger!), and would add SIrhan Sirhan to the list. I wish you would tell us what you had on McCain. I've never trusted that shifty eyed piece of work.
Now they've played their trump cards back here in the states (where you ought to come and speak, assuming...)
God (the chimp does "intelligent design" -- thus turning the concept into a self-contradiction)
War On China. Suddenly all you see is "Red Storm", with the People's Army looking good and threatening the Taiwan and the US.
Those are the biggies: Call on God, kill godless atheistic commnists over there, before they invade California. Works for the Cath-'o-Jews, Southern racist Bolton supporters every time.
Sneaking in Jew John Bolton at the UN, Catholic Roberts into the Supreme Court.
Using the London bombing -- probably staged by the same ones, by the look of it -- to start up searches here.
And 'promising' suicide bomb soon here, too.
Whoever tolerates any of it -- and this board has said OK to Bolton, after two years of posting under "No War for Israel" -- which is why I am outta here. Had to post this, however, since you've gone up front for America.
All best
2005-08-05 14:05 | User Profile
TexAnarch,
Yah, there was no tongue-in-cheek in the aforementioned thing I wrote 5 years ago (and with a headful of Ketamine, btw: Dunno how I wrote on 400mg of Ketamine...but I did, fer, like, 18 months; designed Web sites and taught, too). :smoke:
A shrink I saw way back when said: "You could probably suffer a stroke and not notice it; you've reprogrammed your brain. You've taught yourself to think under so many different chemicals, that your neurotransmitters would re-adapt very quickly to regular communication."
I was glad to hear that. :biggrin:
I know that massive ingestion of Drugs over 20yrs has helped me understand the ins/outs of the Skunkworks (both good and evil aspects) and, certainly, of the grave effects that a sudden spike of juice can have on an unwitting mind (aka Oswald, who was programmed at Atsugi Island, Japan, via MK-Ultra/LSD; this is FOIA-related material, can be accessed by anyone; we'll have to wait on Hinckley/Jim Jones/Mark David Chapman).
OK, best to you.
TBF
P.S.: Do a Google search: "todd brendan fahey" and "larry mcdonald" and you'll learn a ton.
2005-08-05 14:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=toddbrendanfahey] A shrink I saw way back when said: "You could probably suffer a stroke and not notice it; you've reprogrammed your brain. You've taught yourself to think under so many different chemicals, that your neurotransmitters would re-adapt very quickly to regular communication."
I was glad to hear that. :biggrin:
No doubt. But how do we know the nice Episcopalian shrink wasn't himself a manifestation of [URL=http://http://www.newworlddisorder.ca/issueone/interviews/faheyinterview.html]the "force"?[/URL]
[I]It was about that time that, while listening to John Coltrane's Giant Steps, with a headfull of Ketamine, laying on my bed, earjacks firmly implanted into the skull, and really grooving to Coltrane's genius, I was literally JERKED RIGHT OUT OF MY BED by a force. I found myself being dragged first through my bedroom, then into the livingroom, my legs and spine stiff and seizing to a feeling that I was not in control of mine own movements. I've been whacked before, on many chemicals, but nothing came close to this. Then I started to perform some ritualistic dance that included savage kicking motions and very orchestrated finger movements. It all seemed quite logical, for a few moments, and for a little while I "understood" why I was doing what I was doing, but my capacity to explain it now is no longer.
But after a few minutes, some part of my brain recognized that this was not the "Todd Brendan Fahey known unto Todd Brendan Fahey," and I began to experience The Fear. I had no control whatsoever over that which it was I was doing. I was like a marionette puppet. And it was apparent to me then (this has happened on at least four other occasions that I can remember; the weirdest thing was, I remember doing this same thing, or having this same thing done unto me while as a child) that an electromagnetic pulse were being utilized from space (or from a spook-van in the parking lot of my apartment, who knows) to lead me to jump out my livingroom window. [/I]
I know that massive ingestion of Drugs over 20yrs has helped me understand the ins/outs of the Skunkworks (both good and evil aspects) and, certainly, of the grave effects that a sudden spike of juice can have on an unwitting mind...
Could be that aerospace engineers the world over are thanking their lucky stars for this think juice you like to chug. Still, it's a bit of a stretch to believe that Lockheed Martin encourages its black project engineers to indulge in substances that even enthusiasts acknowledge can subject one to "Psychedelic Spirituality" and "Electromagnetic Terror"...
2005-08-05 15:28 | User Profile
"weisbrot":
eh-eh. I think a certain Moderator here at OD has already cuffed you around your scruff for the above-type post.
Let's not let it happen again. Otay? :D
Now, bugger off and sin no mo'.
P.S.: Get yer facts straight: I've never worked for Lockheed Martin. :boxing:
2005-08-05 15:59 | User Profile
by Dan Merkur, The Psychedelic Sacrament: Manna, Meditation, and Mystical Experience; SUNY Press, 2001
[preface by Todd Brendan Fahey]
Just prior to the popularization of the World Wide Web lay active a private news list pertaining to psychedelic drugs. The Visionary Plants List--or "VPL," as it was called by by its posters--was a by-invitation-only forum wherein could be discussed ones psychedelic experiences; recipes for the creation of psychedelic drugs; comparisons of said substances; discussions of state-by-state drugs laws and methods by which not to get caught, as well as real-time Q&A with persons of esteemed reputation within the psychedelics community. The only thing not allowed was any offering for sale or distribution of psychedelics. If you had 'em, great. Keep it to yourself.
Late-1994 through late-1996 were some some heady months. Within VPL were attendants who are household names in broadcast media-, writerly-, rock'n'roll-, and scientific circles. Gaining entry into VPL required a core group of site administrators to listen to input of the sum-total of the site's existing membership, and then it was put to a vote. I passed the "background checks" and, during publication of my CIA/LSD novel Wisdom's Maw, as I always seem to do, pushed the envelope of Administrators' patience at VPL, by insisting that the Forum become a little more active and vocal toward reasserting the 10th amendment (that prickly and forgotten thing called "states' rights") within the United States of America. e.g., that FedGov/D.C. has 0.00 business dictating "drug laws" on the 50 states.
My zeal was well understood and empathized with; but, let's face it--This was a crew who had a whole lot to lose by "coming out," as it were; and my drive was voted down overwhelmingly.
I continued to stay active within VPL through its demise in early November 1996, when a member named "donut" got picked up by Florida cops carrying a massive load of LSD. He was reckless in that he had not compartmentalized his hard drive and cordoned off incriminating materials to an encrypted file; and, also, that he'd left his computer on and fully open to the cops who then stormed his house and who had easy pickin's as his access to VPL was still open and running while he was sweating it out in county jail.
VPL was instantly closed down by the Administrators, with its membership quite literally yanking out hard drives and placing them into microwave ovens, and burning whatever printed documents had been filed away. It was a day from Hell.
I was in Amsterdam during this time, and when I couldn't access VPL, I began to get "the Fear." Within hours of its shut-down, I received e- from a friend that I might, ...uh, want to call someone in Lafayette, Lousiana (where I then lived) and, mebbe, have him remove my computer from my house. That was a nasty phone call. A lot of friends would pass by my house while I sweated out the next week in Amsterdam (though the cops never came).
Apparently, and as it's now known, "donut" was a stand-up guy and didn't say shee-it. Served some hard time for the privilege, too. (Whereever you are, "donut": THANK YOU.)
During this time, and as I was the most-prolific user of LSD to have ever trod the VPL, I began to answer questions put to me very deliberately and thoughfully by someone on the list. As I knew the list owner and several notable figures within VPL, I knew that it was not a trap. & so I submitted to an interview that would span 48 or more months. Every so often, and even after VPL had shut up shop, I'd receive e-mail with certain questions as to things I'd stated previously.
In year 2001, I got an e-mail message from Dan Merkur, who told me that his "book was out," and that I'd probably want to take a look at it. This book is titled, The Psychedelic Sacrament; its publisher, State University of New York (SUNY) Press.
Stunned wasn't the word for it. Doctor Merkur had used me as a case study on one element of the psychedelic experience, and has ensconced me into five of the nine pages of the book's Introduction:
This is what is published:
[by Dan Merkur, Ph.D., SUNY/Buffalo]
"Consider the following self-report of a unitive experience that was induced through psychedelic drug use:
'Over the past eight months, and very intermittently, I've been experiencing something like a "presence"--a spiritual "fullness" or "outswelling of the spirit"...The zenith, thus far, of this Experience, occurred while I was on magazine-assignment in Amsterdam, this past November. I had partaken of some chemicals (but, truth be known, that is not an atypical occurrence with me, and the quantity of medicaments was in no way substantial enough to have produced the effect that I am about to put succinctly before you):
As I lay back on my cot, there was a way in which I could simultaneously relax my vision and gaze into a mirror across the room and have he light directly above the mirror refract back into my eyes...and
But not just that. Suddenly, there was an energy component to the Experience--not just a buzzing or a humming, but a driving, all-consuming Energy. The world fell away, and suddenly I found myself in what I can only call "an energy chamber," whereupon my brain, the physical mass of my brain, felt as if it were connected to the Great Cosmic Overmind. "I" was privy to All-Knowledge.
But that wasn't all, either. Just as suddenly, there came a spiritual infusion, which literally took my breath away. I understood then, that the Mind is one thing, and that the Spirit is another. What rushed through me and filled me and continued to fill me for some three hours, was simply Bliss. The energy that I felt--in that Energy Chamber--was my one. This is crucial. I was given a look at my own Life Force--and in this Energy Chamber, I saw several of my faces, corresponding to "me" at different ages. That is what it was, an Energy Chamber, wherein the Energy was mine own (as if, I were being "told": "You are enough. This is it, & Now is All there is"). I remember that I was comforted to no end, knowing that the Path I was on, have been on (am on?...not too sure now) was/is the Right One (for me). (Prior to going to Amsterdam, doing this article, I had struggled much with "Am I lifing the Life I should be living?") There came a point in this Experience, where I was prompted to ask: "Who am I?" And the reply that came, fairly put me on my knees, weeping, for a good forty minutes. Bawling, actually. (At one point, I was sure I was going to wake up the whole hotel, and I became kind of embarrassed, and I think that is when It went away.) What came in response to my query was this:
And I understood, intrinsically, what it meant to be Holy. And I was, then. This was in November of last year. I knew not where to turn: I told very few people about this Happening. I felt as if I were Supposed to be Doing something; but knowing not what, or in what direction, I continued on my present course (which is the marketing of a first-novel of mine, along with teaching Creative Writing at U of Louisiana-Lafayette). Lately, I have been plagued by dreams involving my (still-living) parents. There is much tension between us (my brand of prose--satire/black-humor--does not sit well with them) and I feel that unless some real and meaningful resolution is found, that I will forever be in a Limbo-land... Two tarot card readers and a shaman have all three said, in their report of my Condition: "You are on the brink of a transformative Awakening, which will bring to you money, will involve you in politics, and will ask of you greatly your Leadership skills; but something holds you back; you are holding yourself back," or words to that effect. This is the long of it. Now, months away from that Experience, I do not know how to regain that sense of Rightness and Bliss. Will it come (back) to me? Is it wrong to seek it in the first place? Or, alternately, should I quit my bitching & live the life of a "holy man" (I assume that means, one dedicated to helping/aiding others, as opposed to striving after fame and material success...But, here again, I don't know that, for me. Maybe the Toddmonster of letters, the social satirist, the black comedian is precisely what is necessary, here, in the waning hours of the 20th century....Maybe I am doing vital service toward the ushering in of an Enlightenment of some stripe...& if I believe that, I run the risk of being called "megalomaniacal" & "full of myself"... It seems like a no-win proposition. How to proceed? This is the question that plagues me daily.' The subject reported an experience of mystical union with "the Great Cosmic Overmind." During the experience, he found himself thinking, "You are a holy man," and "You are enough. This is it, & Now is All there is." His experience of a union of energy, rightness and bliss can be treated as a metaphoric expression of the same ideas. The spiritual insights manifested first in the form of bodily sensations and mental images, and only afterward in the form of verbal ideas. Overall, the mystical union validated the subject's sense of self through a powerful and prolonged experience of self-esteem. Eight months after the experience, its memory continued to serve the subject as a high-water mark and an ideal for aspiration. The subject reported uncertainty whether and, if yes, how to act on the ideal. A second eight months later, the subject reported that he eventually chose to be guided by his awakening: 'Truly, since then, my life has not been "the same," and I am slowly, painfully, but meaningfully, coming to an understanding of what it is to be aligned with Goodness....what transpired in Amsterdam for me--which ...[a friend] called properly "Grace"--was shattering, life-affirming, in every way a magical awakening.' In The Ecstatic Imagination (1998) and Mystical Moments and Unitive Thinking (1999), I suggested that unitive experiences articulate unconscious ego ideals. The manifest content of the experiences represents the self as ideal. An experience of mystical union is the waking equivalent of a dream symbol by whose means ego ideals are expressed. Because the unitive ideas manifest in the symbolic form of an experience, the values that are conveyed by the experience are not articulated as cognitive data that happens to be known by the self. They are not merely thought about, disinterestedly, as ideas. The values are not impersonal. The symbolism portrays the values as the self's own interests, motives, and goals. They are heartfelt, personal ideals. The novelty of the ideals is indicated, in the above self-report, by the subject's uncertainty regarding how to act in response to them. The subject perceived the inadequacy of his existing values to direct his behavior toward the goals that he found himself desiring. He found himself to be called upon to be more creative than ever previously--and specifically in the domain of what he termed "Goodness." ...Philo, Paul and Maimonides believed that the cultivation of the human spirit was both possible and religiously desirable. In the practice of mysticism, no differently than in psychotherapy, "ones model...has an organizing effect, it selects our responses and interpretations; our theoretical preconceptions determine how we conduct an analysis (Modell, 1987, p. 233; cf. Meissner, 1982, p. 27). What is at issue in this book is a point of theory. What is at stake are its consequences for both spirituality and psychotherapy." Dan Merkur, The Psychedelic Sacrament; SUNY Press, 2001 --- ### toddbrendanfahey *2005-08-05 16:04* | [User Profile](/od/user/142) [IMG]http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0892817585.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,32,-59_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg[/IMG] He didn't do too bad, did he? &tc. --- ### weisbrot *2005-08-05 17:53* | [User Profile](/od/user/151) [QUOTE=toddbrendanfahey]"weisbrot": eh-eh. I think a certain Moderator here at OD has already cuffed you around your scruff for the above-type post. I don't recall being cuffed, although anything can happen in Ketamine fantasy land. Any moderator wanting to confirm this "cuffing" is welcome to do so openly. I've always held the OD staff in high regard for their discretion and loose reins, so it surprises me that you claim to have that sort of influence over their activities. > P.S.: Get yer facts straight: I've never worked for Lockheed Martin. :boxing:[/QUOTE] Get your vision straight, when you come down. I never claimed that you did. For a published writer, it sure seems strange that you're so prickly about having your published comments reprinted. Does your protest here imply that you repudiate your claims of being induced to perform a "ritualistic dance that included savage kicking motions and very orchestrated finger movements" by "electromagnetic impulses"? --- ### TexasAnarch *2005-08-06 01:42* | [User Profile](/od/user/199) -- just a note Being tossed bodily across the room isn't something that just happens on drugs. I had a straight-arrow student tell me the same thing happened to him as he was lying down concentrating on "god". I had given a lecture previously on how the word (according to some, such as Huxley) did not mean something outside oneself, which he said he was recalling. He said he felt he was being lifted up and hurled. Came to after cracking his noggin on a table corner, requiring stitches. I met Leary twice, but never admired the man -- he went too far too fast, and blew the gig for many of that becursed "baby boomer" gneration -- which really was among the best and brightest, until the Vietnam war crushed them, for which the perpetrator cannot be forgiven. And they are back now, Swiftboating intelligent design. I tried LSD 4 times in the 60's, but had an experience on the 3rd trip that made me quit (except for a BAD one, later, which I took as a sign). Staring at a Van Gogh painting, suddenly it seemed as if (this is what occurred to me then, and memory over time has never changed a thing) New Jerusalem was descending. In my head. I resolved not to use up my trip, something important beyond everything was to be made of it, and have never wavered on that, nor will. Too much was invested in making me what dad lived for, putting wife and myself through school through Ph.D. level, late 50's/early 60's. I don't think I've let him down. He declined to get high with me the one time I offered, but never once, all the way through, tried to tell me what to do. said he had made it that far without it, and was satisfied to go on that way. Couldn't argue with that. Since I was raised among real men in West Texas, it has never been necessary to look elsewhere for that particular variety of species on earth (though I did do Gurdjieff work for a period -- should have more -- ex-jesuit there told us what he experienced high on grass was what he had sought for when he went into the priesthood). Come down and stick with the veggies, man. You may be (one of the) Ones, and the time might be now. (Leary actully told me on one occassion: "You take them as far as you can, I'll take them the rest of the way." Now his DNA is in outer space. And my grandkids don't do drugs.) --- ### toddbrendanfahey *2005-08-06 13:01* | [User Profile](/od/user/142) TexAnarch, You're a sane and reasonable fellow. What "weisbrot" is trying to do, is what he does often on my threads: To try to divert the information I've written into ad hominem ("against the man") smear. :thumbd: I haven't taken Ketamine since October 2000. Not once. & living as I do in South Korea, and what with the "culture" here [as to the Drugs question], I'm arrow-straight. I've never touched a drug which is illegal in Korea while in Korea (Ketamine can be bought over-the-counter at pharmacies, btw). But "weisbrot"'s tactic is to make you (pl.) want to believe otherwise. FYI. --- ### toddbrendanfahey *2005-08-06 14:31* | [User Profile](/od/user/142) P.S.: "weisbrot," now that you just got bitchslapped for your lie ("No Moderator ain't ever sed nuthin' 2 me!!"), I'll trust it won't happen again. :boxing: --- ### weisbrot *2005-08-06 15:20* | [User Profile](/od/user/151) [QUOTE=toddbrendanfahey]P.S.: "weisbrot," now that you just got bitchslapped for your lie ("No Moderator ain't ever sed nuthin' 2 me!!"), I'll trust it won't happen again. :boxing:[/QUOTE] I'm still puzzled as to how using direct, unedited quotes from a "public figure" amounts to going "ad hominem" against that person. Such a protest surely indicates that the "public figure" isn't overly proud of his body of work, such as it is, nor of the methods that were used to spew it out. I communicate with the moderators regularly and consider them to be fine fellows. No bitchslapping found here, although I'm sure there has been some bitching from some highly sensitive, alleged adults. I'll yield the floor to more of the same. --- ### toddbrendanfahey *2005-08-06 15:43* | [User Profile](/od/user/142) You're like a flea that keeps getting flicked off. You have resolve, for sure. Just f*ck off on my threads and you'll be fine. --- ### TexasAnarch *2005-08-07 15:15* | [User Profile](/od/user/199) well, I've just finished reading Chronicles II -- and forget the well-wishing. 'Weisbrot' couldn't possibly hold as much against you as you deserve to get -- along with Cong. McDonald, and the entire JBS CIA front. I though you were standing to them, but ... when there's nothing there, its all the same. You and your old man -- what did he do to you? You owe it to whoever you think might deserve the truth to come clean on this. I did, so he wouldn't be held responsible for anything this incarnations of the family name brought. Pretty bad? -- or nothing at all. Either fits. Not American -- the reverse Not Christian -- the reverse Not human -- maggot --- ### toddbrendanfahey *2005-08-07 21:11* | [User Profile](/od/user/142) Tex Anarch, Your post is incoherent. & I wrote [I]Hell Bottled Up [/I] in 1988. That was a long time ago, and I've learned a lot about the John Birch Society since I turned in my badge. What are you bitching about? P.S.: The late Rep. Lawrence Patton McDonald was one of the greatest heroes of the 20th century. He was taken out very deliberately by George Bush (the elder), after having announced that he would be running for President as a conservative Democrat in 1988 (the year George Bush was gunning for the Top Spot). No one who held court on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives and insisted on reading sections of Council on Foreign Relations reports [I]straight into the Congressional Record[/I], so that Amerikans might see the treason performed by Poppy and his cohorts, could be allowed to campaign all over the nation for the Presidency. I don't think you've quite "got your mind around it," wherein Larry McDonald is concerned. :tank: --- ### TexasAnarch *2005-08-08 16:36* | [User Profile](/od/user/199) You illustrate why drugs are not for right wingers. Conservatives were dealt sauce (and Lord Calvert). Bad enough, but containable. Beyond that goes over into death trip, and since we donââ¬â¢t get to play through but once (unless reincarnation kicks in, but thatââ¬â¢s really a long shot), there goes the gig. More: Time canââ¬â¢t exist for heads that connect with the historical group process as deeply as you have. When you enter into it, as I did 40 years ago, you stick your peg in a hole that had better not move, because from then on everything has to turn around that stand. And that will be forever. And this should be understood ââ¬â as it is, at a certain level, I think, because there ainââ¬â¢t but one history, either --or you shouldnââ¬â¢t do it. No change, no accommodations, no regrets, no whine. Itââ¬â¢s a lot to ask of youth. For me, it happened because a kid I knew in the 60ââ¬â¢s was there one year, just an ordinary guy, then reported dead in Vietnam the next. I knew it was wrong then, and everyone who supported it was wrong. The JBS-ers not only supported, they helped instigate it, for reasons that had noting whatever to do with America ââ¬â tinfoil patriots ââ¬â or anything but control power. The CIA, or whoever, could off them all, with justification. (But making an international incident the scale of 007 shootdown in order to get one doesnââ¬â¢t compute ââ¬â they were ââ¬Ëticklingââ¬â¢ Soviet defenses for some bigger reason, MacDonald just got caught in a Crossfire ââ¬â imho: Iââ¬â¢m sure your looking at different stuff). The game had already gone down by 1980ââ¬â¢s. Too late to get in without being used by forces beyond control. Even ââ¬â or especially ââ¬â by ubermensch. The MAW record goes ââ¬Ëway beyond youthful rebellion or idealistic indiscretion. Brought out in ââ¬â¢88 (Bush1 elected), republished in ââ¬â¢96, referred to in ââ¬â¢05 ââ¬â itââ¬â¢s use would be to recruit youth for America (not: the reverse); Christian (not: Catholic Ustasi types); human good-guys (not: maggots). You should own up to that, or put it away, where it belongs. (Incredible reality lit, though.) What you helped start and would now popularize is the bull necker mentality, and morality, of Rupert Murdoch. et al --- ### Ponce *2005-08-08 18:28* | [User Profile](/od/user/901) [url]http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-chavez08.html[/url] Better late than never, I didn't even know that the DEA was operating in Venezuela. ---