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Who Wants A White Society? Not Us, Right?

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il ragno [OP]

2005-08-03 06:49 | User Profile

[I]The ever-shifting, yet never-changing, nature of the Jew is on full view here; but more desperate than at any time before, as his cultural hegemony and political power continues to unravel. Note the barely-masked naked panic in the following story, where Jew Aaronovitch gives you a glimpse of a world without Jews - a near-paradise compared to our present one, with ** them - and then takes a few half-hearted stabs at convincing you that rather than some dull, healthy, vibrant and lily-white community, what you [B]really [/B] want, deep down, is to instead live paycheck-to-paycheck in a multiracial, high-crime, filth-riddled pressure-cooker where buildings and public transportation explode every so often, and violent death might strike at any minute. Cos that's, you know, authentic living....as opposed to being some blond-haired dullard who raises a family and plants roots in a community and lives without locks on all the doors and dies at 90 surrounded by his grandchildren. Sounds a little creepy and, well - Aryan** - doesn't it? [/I]

[url]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22369-1717148,00.html[/url]

[FONT=Century Gothic][SIZE=3][COLOR=Red]Hands up – who want British society to be as white as Narvik in January?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [I]David Aaronovitch[/I]

THE WAY MAD-EYED Helga told us the story it went like this. The troll-queen Skadi was angry with the Norse gods for having killed her father, so she came to Asgard looking for reparation or vengeance. It was decided that the only way to buy her off would be to marry her to one of the gods, but Skadi refused unless they could perform one impossible task — to make her laugh. None of the gods had any idea about how this was to be accomplished until the crafty Loki got hold of a goat, tied one end of a rope to its beard and the other (Helga gestures) “round here”. The goat then went one way, Loki’s person went the other and the troll-queen laughed.

That was the only act of propitiation I heard about in four days spent in the Trondelag region of central Norway. Otherwise no one was asked to appease or understand anyone else. The farmlands and hills, the fjords and small towns harboured no people who wanted to blow complete strangers to caliphate come. After the last month in London with the raids, headlines and sirens it was an odd kind of relief to be in a place that was so completely unthreatened. It got light at 4am and dark at midnight and in all those 20 hours of day I didn’t see a single flashing blue light.

Except on Saturday, which was the day that the king came to Stiklestad. Harald V, a tall, balding, smiley kind of monarch in a sober suit, had arrived in the small town to celebrate the anniversary of the death in battle of Norway’s first Christian king, Olav Haraldsson. Back in July of 1030 King Olav had fallen while fighting against an insurgent coalition of local nobles. His astute supporters had subsequently characterised the struggle as being between Christianity and paganism, had discovered a series of miracles performed by King Olav, so carried his body back to Trondheim, and declared him a martyr for his faith.

Every year since 1954 a play about Olav the Holy (also apparently known in his day as Olav the Fat) has been performed at a huge open-air amphitheatre in Stiklestad. Over the course of a week 50,000 people show up for the performances, to look around the museum, buy ocarinas at the medieval craft fair and meet their friends. Mad-eyed Helga was giving a pair of us Britons a tour of the museum when she told us about Loki’s slapstick, and the flashing blue lights were on the two small police cars that had accompanied King Harald and Queen Sonya to the play.

Such a security arrangement might not seem particularly intimidating to many of us who have been in Britain for the last month, or who have passed through a British airport recently, but I was assured by one of the play’s organisers that events in London had indeed affected their preparations. There were, apparently, several plain-clothes detectives mingled with the crowd (I saw just one). And this year each one of the 100 men, women and teenagers dressed up as the Viking-age soldiers from Olav’s army, and between whose ranks the modern king entered the amphitheatre, had been security vetted — just in case their number had been infiltrated by any terrorist interlopers who might have taken advantage of the weapons and the proximity to wallop the smiley king over the shiny head with an historically correct axe.

It was not, however, easy to imagine such a thing. In the Trondelag we were a universe away from the Middle East, from the clash of civilisations that some people seem so anxious to have, from bottles of explosive with nails stuck to them and from Paddington Green police station. Up there Heckler & Koch are probably a pair of Arctic comedians.

To judge by the Stiklestad festival most Norwegians live very comfortably and are almost absurdly law-abiding. They are also all white. Over the four days there and in Trondheim I saw thousands and thousands of Norwegians and liked them immensely as a group. But in all that time I only saw one dark face — one little boy as he tried his hand at archery — and the only immigrant I met was a German silversmith now living in Tromso. Nothing could be more different from the Babel of London than this homogeneous society where someone from Oslo stands out, let alone someone from Cairo.

Such a prospect pleases some people now. A homogeneity like this means not worrying about the sons of Somali refugees, the descendants of Mirpuri peasants, about the occasional madrassa-educated malcontent or the prison convert. This complete Norwegianness could suggest a possible future Britishness, insulated against outside shocks by closed borders and an insistence on cultural conformity.

I was struck, on returning home yesterday morning, by a letter in Saturday’s paper from a Mr Stuart Millson, of West Malling in Kent. Mr Millson complained about the Balkanisation of Britain and — while professing the “greatest respect to people of that religion” — singled out the “large scale presence of Islam in our cities” as “one of the factors that has eroded the Britishness of Britain”. He was suggesting, I think, that we needed somehow to reverse the history of the past few years and return to a period of greater homogeneity.

I don’t know why, but some synaptic spark flew and prompted me to enter Mr Millson’s name and town into an internet search engine. There I discovered that Mr Millson is no Mr Joe Public on the subject of Britishness. Unless there is a school of Stuart Millsons in Malling, then he is also an activist in the Freedom Party, the editor of a magazine called Right Now, a former member of the British National Party and someone who dined with the leader of the French National Front, Jean Marie le Pen [Shock Horror! ]. Mr Millson is also, I would guess, the same man who recently wrote an article criticising the Queen for praising multiculturalism in her Christmas address.

None of this of itself necessarily makes him wrong about the problems of diversity. Others have said what he has said since July 7 and even more have thought it. Myself, I see intolerance of difference and of freedom as a problem that is not monopolised by over-zealous imams. In Norway the TV news also brought us the story of the black boy axed to death on an evening street in Merseyside.

But even suppose you could turn the date back to 1950 and a British society as white as Narvik in January, and as Christian as St Olav’s tomb, is that really what we would want? The play in Stiklestad has been performed since the year that I was born. In the programme there were photographs of performances going back to 1954. In all that time the only thing that has really changed has been the position of the orchestra. Otherwise the characters look the same, the set is the same, even the tree-trunk where the blind man sits is in the same position. A country like Britain can’t be like that.

I’d rather we continued to be dynamic and ever-changing. To defy our enemies our best weapons are a goat, a rope and a bit of imagination.


Sertorius

2005-08-03 07:50 | User Profile

[QUOTE]I’d rather we continued to be dynamic and ever-changing.[/QUOTE] No, he wants us to change for the worse. For him and his kind, well, they'll never change.


xmetalhead

2005-08-03 12:42 | User Profile

[QUOTE]A country like Britain can’t be like that.[/QUOTE]

Can the Culture Wreckers be any clearer in their authority over us?


JoseyWales

2005-08-03 13:07 | User Profile

I didnt realize such places even existed anymore. This little area sounds nice, and I bet its crime rate isnt nearly what we would find in multi-kulti jooyork, LA or Houston...

I’d rather we continued to be dynamic and ever-changing.

Im sure he would

To defy our enemies our best weapons are a goat, a rope and a bit of imagination.

Ya know, if there wasnt so many joos here, not to mention arabs and muslims in general, in the US, maybe we would not be in our situation would we. More law enforcement, eroding our rights and privacy is only putting a bandaid on an absessed wound. Anticeptics in generous quantities is needed first.


BlueBonnet

2005-08-03 13:50 | User Profile

[QUOTE=il ragno]To defy our enemies our best weapons are a goat, a rope and a bit of imagination.[/QUOTE] Good idea!


Quantrill

2005-08-03 17:29 | User Profile

[QUOTE=BlueBonnet]Good idea![/QUOTE] :lol:


Ponce

2005-08-03 21:18 | User Profile

Who wants an all white "society", in the US?

Who would pick your fruits, clean your house, do your garden, take care of your brats......your wife? no way, women lib.....you? hummmmm maybe, after all soon there will be no jobs for the white man.

You created your own monsters and now is to big to kill, and I really don't get it......why weren't the illegals sent back as they were coming in?, I mean, if someone is breaking the law and someone see it they are arrested right away so why not the illegals?


Marlowe

2005-08-03 23:30 | User Profile

I'm eagerly awaiting an Il Ragno re-write.

Norway is said to have the highest standard of living (not simply per-capita income) of any nation. Anyone who has been to the fjords (yahoo: fjords norway for great pictures) says it is beautiful beyond description. They have oil. Time to investigate Norway's immigration laws.


jeffersonian

2005-08-04 00:00 | User Profile

[QUOTE]Who wants an all white "society", in the US?[/QUOTE]

Wrong Question. Who wants an AMERICAN SOCIETY in the US? That's the one that should concern you.

I, for one, am a hell of a lot less concerned about how "White" someone looks but I sure as hell care if they are butchering a goat in the garage next door, living 65 persons per 900 sq.ft. house, or killing my neighbor or friends to get their next fix.

Give me freaking Ward and June Cleaver any day. The problem with this multicultural crap isn't that the invaders are some different color, the problem is they are culturally, socially, and economically retarded and I'm sick of the USA having to come down in living standard to satisfy the rest of the world.


madrussian

2005-08-05 03:59 | User Profile

[QUOTE=jeffersonian] I, for one, am a hell of a lot less concerned about how "White" someone looks but I sure as hell care if they are butchering a goat in the garage next door, living 65 persons per 900 sq.ft. house, or killing my neighbor or friends to get their next fix. [/QUOTE] Once you realiize you can't have one without the other (except in some hypothetical what-if scenario that doesn't translate into anything realistic), you can move directly to the root of the problem.

And if you are white, "not caring" what potential boyfriend of your daughter will be means you've dug your head into the sand as deep as possible.


Faust

2005-08-05 04:33 | User Profile

I would love to see Mr. Aaronovitch and the rest of the marxist scum in the UK be dealt with by rope and a good old English oak tree.


jeffersonian

2005-08-05 15:09 | User Profile

[QUOTE][B][I]By M R [/I] [/B] Once you realiize you can't have one without the other...[/QUOTE]

How sad is that?


MadScienceType

2005-08-05 15:33 | User Profile

Who would pick your fruits, clean your house, do your garden, take care of your brats......your wife?

Well, hell, big P, who did those jobs before the Messicans blessed us with their work ethic (and screaming in Spanish at 3AM, thumpa-thumpa low-riders at all hours of the night, sucking up public services, bankrupting schools and hospitals, driving down wages, gangs, rape, robbery and murder)?

Gee, you think it might have been those awful Whites?

Oh, that's right, the Whites demanded fair pay for hard work and weren't content with living nose-to-a**hole in an efficiency apartment. In short, they thought they and their forebears had worked and fought for a first world country and demanded a standard of living to match.

The greedy bastards.


Kevin_O'Keeffe

2005-08-05 15:38 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ponce]Who wants an all white "society", in the US?

Who would pick your fruits, clean your house, do your garden, take care of your brats......your wife? no way, women lib.....you?

Speak for yourself; I've never had a servant of any kind, Latin or otherwise. I rather doubt I ever shall, nor do I particularly desire one. I don't object to higher prices for fruits & vegetables, if that's what needs doing in order to get White men & women back out in the fields (the wages presently paid are only like 5% of the cost of produce, so one could easily quintiple those wages, for example, and only yield a modest, fractional increase in the price; California field workers usually get minimum wage these days, which is like $7 an hour in this state). For $35 an hour, I'm guessing some working class White men would bite the bullet and pick the damn crops. People scraping by at $12 an hour at some store where they wear a name tag and an apron all day long might not see sweat, heat, stooping over & bug bites for $35/hour to be such a bad deal. Hell, I might consider it myself.

[QUOTE=Ponce]You created your own monsters and now is to big to kill, and I really don't get it......why weren't the illegals sent back as they were coming in?, I mean, if someone is breaking the law and someone see it they are arrested right away so why not the illegals?[/QUOTE]

Its rather late in the game to start, but there will probably be an initiative on the November 2005 Special Election ballot (either that, or the June 206 Primary Election ballot) mandating the creation of the California Border Police, which will defy the dubious Federal authority in this matter, and begin handling the illegal imigration problem at the state level, first here, and later in 49 other states, I suspect. The initiative is expected pass.


Sertorius

2005-08-05 15:44 | User Profile

Ponce,

I spread my own pinestraw.


madrussian

2005-08-06 03:49 | User Profile

What a deal, along with fruits and lawn mowers and leaf blowers you literally buy a piece of messican to maintain on your dime. Not only him, but all his future cucaracha generations. These are one hell of a lot of expensive messicans. Only idiots would willingly buy into that deal explicitly.