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6KILLER [OP]

2005-08-03 06:18 | User Profile

[font=Arial][size=4][color=red]All Immigrants are Not the Same! [/color][/size][/font][font=Arial][size=1]Opinion; Posted on: 2005-07-31 09:28:33 [ [url="http://www.nationalvanguard.org/printer.php?id=5561"][color=#0000ff]Printer friendly / Instant flyer[/color][/url] ] [/size][/font]
[img]http://www.nationalvanguard.org/images/teaser/pear_apple_sliced.jpg[/img] [font=Arial][size=2]**There, I said it....** by H. Millard MANY ANTI-IMMIGRATION activists are quick to say that their positions are not based on race. I understand the reason for such race denial in the present climate, and I know that many, maybe most, of these folks may really believe it, but I think this is sometimes said too quickly and too often and that this may have the effect of closing the minds of many people who might be better served by keeping their minds open so facts can come in. My guess is that the U.S. is headed for some deep doo doo unless we start talking about and understanding the importance of race -- more properly, genes -- in immigration. Denying reality doesn't change reality, it only blinds people to it; and that's how you get blindsided. We have no compunction against discussing the differences between different breeds of dogs, so why should we be so afraid to discuss the differences among different breeds of humans? Why must we be held captive to the small-minded and bigoted flat-world types in our society who put all sorts of ignorant restraints on the human mind and its craving to understand? Understanding and true knowledge come from being able to tell the difference between this and that and not simply lump all things and all people into large undifferentiated baskets. "What's in that basket over there?" asks someone who has just pulled up to a roadside fruit stand. "Oh, fruit," comes the answer from the seller. "Fruit? Well, I was looking for an apple." "Sorry," says the seller "we don't discriminate. It's all just fruit to us. We don't see any difference between apples, pears, cherries, oranges, lemons and all the rest. Those names are just social constructs. We're not fruitists around here. So, do you want some fruit or not?" We need to boldly, but politely, get past the fear of being called names. Are we just against "illegal immigration" as some people like to say? If that's true, then we should all be happy if President Bush makes all illegals legal, as he apparently wants to do. Somehow, I don't think that would make most of us happy. If not, why not? The answer is that illegal vs. legal is not the real issue. The real issue is that our society is being transformed into something different than it has been and this is being done through the invasion of our land by those who are upsetting the traditional genetic balance we have had in this country. As we fearlessly (I hope) travel down this path of discussing the importance of genes to the immigration debate, we have to realize that admitting that there are genetic differences between different peoples is not the same thing as racial hatred or animosity any more than it is hatred or animosity when we admit that different makes of automobiles have different features or that different breeds of dogs have different abilities. We also have to understand that genetic differences are causes that lead to different effects in the resulting societies. Few are saying it these days, but the U.S. became what it has become because its dominant genetic strain was European and it was a European nation, albeit in a new land. Different peoples, no less than different kinds of ants or birds, build their societies and the badges of their societies based on their genetic determinants as adapted to various environments and conditions (both internal and external). What the European immigrants built in America was a new Europe. It was a particular type of ant hive built by this particular type of human ant. Put the same humans in a million different lands, and they'd build the same basic things over and over again with various modifications dictated by circumstances and various other variables. It's part of their genes. That's why the nation prospered and became the world power it is today. America was not made great because of genetic diversity or multiculturalism or multiracialism; that's the stuff of grade school level propaganda. To think that genetic diversity is our strength is to enter the lala land of the humanity-denying liberal loonies with their *noblesse oblige* racism that, at its heart, posits all humans as being one-size-fits-all White humans under the skin -- who are just dying to let their inner Whiteness shine through their non-White skins and who just need the motherly and fatherly help of White-skinned liberals to help them do this. We need to start seeing and respecting humans as they truly are, not as we want to pretend they are. We are all different, and not just because of different paint jobs. Just as different peoples are not identical, they are also not fungible. You can't replace one group of genetically closely related people with another group of people who are not genetically closely related to the first group and expect the same results in society. To think you can do this is a little like thinking you can blithely substitute brown sugar for white sugar in a cake recipe and that you will end up with the same result. Let's cut to it. Immigration is inextricably wrapped up with genes because humans and human populations are inextricably wrapped up with genes. It can be no other way. That's nature. That's reality. That's how living things are engineered. As living creatures we are all products or projections of our genes and it is our genes that have made us of different races and which have given us different abilities and talents and different instinctive approaches to this process we call life, as surely as genes have done this with the aforementioned ants and birds. When we consider these things, we are faced with the thought that well, yes, these "lower" creatures -- these ants and birds -- are programmed by their genes to have certain instincts, but we humans are higher creatures and we have free will. Well, in fact, we do not have as much free will as we arrogantly and vainly think we have. We, too, are a product of our genes, and we, too, are directed by our genes. Twin studies clearly and convincingly, and sometimes head-scratchingly so, demonstrate this. What about that hoary saw: the melting pot? It's mostly nonsense in a genetic sense. When the term "melting pot"was coined, there wasn't much understanding of genetics and it referred to people from Ireland, England, France and all the other European countries coming here and melting together into an English-speaking American. But, what was really melted together? Mostly just unessential nationalities and national customs and languages. Not genes. All of the European peoples were closely related genetically long before they came here. They were all White Europeans. They were of a very similar genotype and phenotype. Fast forward to today when immigration is not primarily from White Europe, but from the Brown Third World. Will a Brown America be the same as a White America? Of course not. The genetic mix will determine the nature of the country, as it always has and as surely as the ingredients and their quantities in a recipe in a kitchen determines the nature of the meal. If current trends continue, we're going to be a Brown Third World nation, not a White First World nation. You may think this is a good thing, or you may think it is a bad thing, but that's where we're heading unless things change. *And it has little to do with illegal vs. legal immigration*. So, what does becoming a Brown Third World nation mean in a practical sense? Well, just for the heck of it I grabbed some statistics on two states that I knew were different from each other genetically but which were similar in other important ways, such as income and population size, to see what a less-White America promises. You can do the same thing for different states and will probably come up with even greater disparities, but here's what I came up with between New Mexico and Maine. New Mexico is the 39th most populous state and Maine is the 40th. If humans are fungible, you might expect to see similar violent crime rates among different populations. That's not what we see in these two states and its not what we see in any examples that I've ever seen. My guess is that if you took all the people of Maine and put them in New Mexico and you took all the people of New Mexico and put them in Maine that the violent crime rates of the two states would be reversed. It's not the geography that matters, but the people. According to the 2000 Census, the estimated population of the state of Maine was 1,274,923 and it was 96.9% non-Hispanic White. The violent crime rate was a very low 109.6 per 100,000 people. This makes it the 49th most violent state. Contrast that to the state of New Mexico with 1,819,046 residents and which was only 44.71% non-Hispanic White. The violent crime rate was a very high 757.9 per 100,000 people. This makes it the 4th most violent state. As the percentage of Whites in the population of America drops, so too, among many other things, will the crime-free First World quality of life drop. Think not? Prove me wrong with facts and figures. I have an open mind, and I'm willing to listen to logical arguments. But don't try to tell me that apples are the same as pears. [/size][/font]

MarkFarrell

2005-08-09 13:26 | User Profile

What should be done with those who allowed this? by Mark Farrell

We must ask ourselves a question: What should be done with those who allowed this illegal alien tidal wave to occur? Moreover, what should we do with those people in "our" government who promoted these things to occur?

This is not a question for "now," but one in the future--when European-Americans gain control of these lands from the plutocrats who dictate the behind-the-scenes decisions.

Nor am I speaking of something "above the law" but, rather, within the full-context of the law, as it will be openly and honestly applied in the future.

I think the answer to this question, then, is, first and foremost, we should have those "leaders"--if we can honestly call them that, that is, those people who swore an oath to their country and pledged to work for the best interests of their electorate yet worked against the people at every turn--tried before courts of law.

While some may opt for the traditional "treason" sentence--and there is little doubt, in my opinion, that many are indeed guilty of this--I propose being more lenient with them.

Admittedly, while it is indeed fair to say that these officials have committed treason by promoting alien interests ahead of this nation's best interests--and the punishment for such is quite severe--I think there is indeed a more fitting punishment:

We should revoke their citizenship, disposses them of their material wealth that they have accumulated as a direct consequence of working against the interests of this nation, and deport them to the very lands from which many of these illegal aliens came: Guatemala, Mexico, Honduras, etc.

Then, these former leaders will truly understand what America would have become if their treason had been allowed to persist over time.

That is the future for which today's leaders begged America to become--another Guatemala--and that will be a fitting punishment for today's pseudo-leaders to see with their own eyes what would occur if their plans had been allowed to reach fruition, as they live out their remainder of their lives in such hellish conditions.


6KILLER

2005-08-09 16:26 | User Profile

[size=5][color=navy]Illegal Immigrant's Poem[/color][/size]

I cross ocean, poor and broke, Take bus, see employment folk.

Nice man treat me good in there, Say I need to see welfare.

Welfare say, "You come no more, We send cash right to your door."

Welfare checks, they make you wealthy, Medicaid it keep you healthy! !

By and by, I got plenty money, Thanks to you, American dummy.

Write to friends in motherland, Tell them 'come fast as you can.'

They come in turbans and Ford trucks, I buy big house with welfare bucks

They come here, we live together, More welfare checks, it gets better!

Fourteen families, they moving in, But neighbor's patience

wearing thin.

Finally, white guy moves away, Now I buy his house, and then I say,

"Find more aliens for house to rent." And in the yard I put a tent.

Send for family they just trash, But they, too, draw the welfare cash!

Everything is very good, And soon we own the neighborhood.

We have hobby it's called breeding, Welfare pay for baby feeding.

Kids need dentist? Wife need pills? We get free! We got no bills!

American crazy! He pay all year, To keep welfare running here.

We think [font=Arial][size=2][font=Arial]America[/font][/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2][font=Arial] darn good place! Too darn good for the white man race.

If they no like us, they can scram, Got lots of room in [/font][/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2][font=Arial]Pakistan[/font][/size][/font][font=Arial][size=2][font=Arial]. [/font][/size][/font]


Ponce

2005-08-09 16:42 | User Profile

At 65 I would like to say that I will never see what is going to happen to what I call my homeland for the past 53 years but I would be only fooling myself.

All you can do is to prepare yourself mentally and do what you can in order to be ready.


Blond Knight

2005-08-09 18:12 | User Profile

[url]http://www.whitefuture.com/html/facts.html[/url]

THE 16 FACTS

CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL

1. The White race made America what it is today.

2. American heritage is White heritage.

3. American law is based upon White concepts from White European thought.

4. The American all-White neighborhoods of the past were demonstrably safer, and freer of crime of all sorts than integrated neighborhoods of today.

5. The American all-White schools of the past were clearly superior to any integrated school of today.

6. All great societies of the past which were White as they rose to power, when they changed from being dominantly White, to a dominantly mixed race society, they fell permanently into decay. (e.g. Egypt, Greece, Rome, Spain, Portugal.)

7. Racial integration of our neighborhoods and our schools has forced them into decay, just like the racial integration of the societies of the great White nations of the past caused them to fall into decay. History, both ancient and recent American, has consistently taught the very same lesson. It is clear beyond any debate, that modifying the racial composition of America away from the dominantly White society that it was as it rose to power, towards a mixed, racially diverse society, will be catastrophic. It will plunge the great American nation into the same depths that the other great White nations of the past have fallen into.

8. Based upon the extensive history of the Black race it is clear that it is not capable of creating or maintaining an advanced society. It has never created one advanced society in Africa. In every case (such as Haiti) where it has been given a thriving society, it has killed it, driving it into the same primitive state that its people have always lived in, in their native Africa. (For any who is foolish enough to doubt history, we have the sad spectacle of South Africa playing out before us, which should erase all doubts.)

9. History has shown us that the Black race cannot create or maintain an advanced society on its own. Its members therefore, as a people, cannot well fit into an advanced society, as equals, living and working beside those who not only are capable of building one advanced society, but have built numerous such societies in all climates and in all types of land.

10. History has shown us that the Hispanic peoples are also deficient in creating advanced societies like the White race has repeatedly created. While they have shown ability that is superior to the Black race, by creating their own written language and some moderately advanced societies they have not been able to take the superior natural resources of the South American continent and do much with them.

11. Spain and Portugal sent soldiers to the lands south of the Rio Grande to conquer and take the wealth of the land. Instead of sending families to colonize, the Spanish men took native wives. The racial makeup of the lands south of the Rio Grande is composed of American Indian, Black, mixed-race and a small percentage of Whites thrown in. Their lands have never thrived like the nations to the north where Whites colonized and kept their race in tact, seldom mixing their race with others.

12. By "celebrating diversity" we are bringing in the Hispanic and Asian peoples into White America and we will cause the North American continent to become like the South American continent. The great wealth and stable society of the White United States will be traded for the poverty and instability of the revolution torn countries south of our border.

13. Even if all races were exactly the same, if there were no differences whatsoever, the fact that Whites created the nation of the United States of America, means that we are completely within our honorable rights to restrict entrance into our country. We may honorably allow only White immigrants, or no immigrants at all.

14. The number of Whites, as a percentage of world population, is now down into the single digits and falling fast.

15. Nearly all of the White nations on earth are now accepting large numbers of Nonwhite immigrants. The only one of the three major races of earth, that is in real danger of falling into a minority status in its own racial home, is the White race. This could easily lead to extermination of the White race.

16. Those who support American diversity, Nonwhite immigration, miscegenation, integration, and/or Affirmative Action, are either:
1) ignorant of the above critical facts; or 2) blatant haters of the White race and seeking to end its existence on planet Earth.

Pennsylvania_Dutch

2005-08-09 19:10 | User Profile

Here's one to consider from a "Douglas Wright". [url="http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2005/WrightNonOffs0805.htm"]http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2005/WrightNonOffs0805.htm[/url]

Possibly the Asians and Orientals are more insidious in the long run than the mestizo or negro?


madrussian

2005-08-10 03:12 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Pennsylvania_Dutch]Here's one to consider from a "Douglas Wright". [url="http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2005/WrightNonOffs0805.htm"]http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2005/WrightNonOffs0805.htm[/url]

Possibly the Asians and Orientals are more insidious in the long run than the mestizo or negro?[/QUOTE] I agree with that sentiment: they are occupying white spaces and because of them some whites are not in the position of power/career/prosperity they deserve.