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Thread ID: 19382 | Posts: 11 | Started: 2005-08-02
2005-08-02 02:08 | User Profile
[I]I think it's official that gone are the days when blacks and hispanics considered each other allies against the "evil opressive white man." Now they blame each other for their problems, and although I naturally want my bretheren to be the winners of the racial conflict that is inevitably to come, I gotta tell ya, this is pure gold![/I]
July 30, 2005
[B][URL=http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-race30jul30,1,7392829.story?coll=la-headlines-california&ctrack=1&cset=true]Anger Boils at Illegal Immigrants[/URL][/B]
[B]The undocumented steal jobs from citizens and crowd schools, say audience members at an L.A. event. Calls for tolerance draw jeers.[/B]
By Lisa Richardson, Times Staff Writer
The event was titled "Blacks and Hispanics: Allies or Rivals?"
The answer? Rivals ââ¬â according to the angry audience at a town hall meeting organized by the Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny, which aims to rebuild the black family by aiding troubled young African American men with housing, mentoring and employment.
The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, head of the organization, had arranged the meeting to take the temperature of the public ââ¬â particularly blacks and Latinos ââ¬â on relations between the two groups.
At least for this audience, gathered at the brotherhood group's headquarters near Pico and La Cienega boulevards Thursday night in Los Angeles, the temperature was hot.
For two hours, members of the audience of blacks, whites and Latinos spoke with a vehemence usually reserved for the dinner table ââ¬â or late-night talk radio shows. They publicly aired views that are often muttered in L.A. but not spoken out loud.
Councilman Bernard C. Parks, who sat on the meeting's panel, voiced the view of many in the city's political elite: "We should not pit groups against each other. Why do we have to look at it as blacks lose, Hispanics win? No one wins in this city without a coalition."
But the audience of about 80, almost evenly divided among the three groups, had already formed a coalition ââ¬â of anger. People would heckle Parks for the rest of the evening.
Terry Anderson, a radio host who has long opposed illegal immigration, was one of several panel members who blamed illegal immigrants for, in their opinion, stealing jobs from blacks and crowding schools and neighborhoods to unbearable limits.
"We have been invaded; there's no other word for it," Anderson said.
The audience clapped and cheered.
Debbie Hernandez, a white member of the audience, said: "Blacks are losing their middle-class status because of illegal aliens. I am willing to go to the streets with my brothers and sisters over this."
Sherrie Johnson, a resident of Torrance, told Parks, "You aren't taking a stand for the right side of the argument.
"I believe the purpose of going through the steps to become a citizen is because it protects the country," she said.
Education and employment emerged as the two most incendiary issues.
Blacks are no longer able to compete for entry-level jobs and construction work, Anderson said, because they are undercut by illegal immigrants willing to work for under-the-table wages.
Members of the audience repeatedly asked one panel member, Richard Alonzo, a district superintendent in the Los Angeles Unified School District, to reveal the number of students in L.A. schools who are illegal immigrants or to find out. He said the district doesn't collect that information.
One questioner asked him for budget numbers, insisting they would prove that educating Latinos was more expensive than teaching other students. It's a premise that Alonzo said was wrong.
The numbers matter, Peterson said, because black students attend schools overcrowded by those who have no right to be there. Peterson, who moderated the discussion, is well known in the conservative media, appearing on Fox television talk shows as well as his own syndicated radio program.
"A lot of black boys and girls are dropping out, and it's because their classes are overwhelmed with illegal Hispanics," Peterson said.
"Black children are mad about that; black parents are mad about that."
Parks countered that the fact that schools once regarded as all black are now predominantly Latino does not have to be viewed as a problem. Those schools once were all white, he said.
He was scoffed at again.
"Black children have pride in being Americans, but Mexicans have pride in being Mexicans," said Frank George, a U.S. citizen who is a native of Mexico. "The problem is that our black children are being assaulted by other children who think they're in Mexico."
Unflappable throughout the steady stream of scoffs and jeers, Parks told the crowd its anger was misdirected:
"You can stay angry, but they are not going to go away," he said. "Whether you want to hear it or not, no one is going to build a fence around the state of California and clear out everyone you think is here illegally."
Vilified too was Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa ââ¬â not for his heritage, speakers said, but because of his membership in MEChA, a Chicano rights organization, when he was a student at UCLA.
Parks defended his former campaign rival, as did Erinn Carter, a graduate student and panel member representing Hope Community Church.
"Is Villaraigosa an issue for African Americans?" Carter said. "Absolutely not. We are in a position to create a coalition now: communities and families and people working together."
2005-08-02 13:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=kminta] ....
"The problem is that our black children are being assaulted by other children who think they're in Mexico."
[/QUOTE] Amen to this. I grew up in a predominately mescan school in Dallas. And I feel that I got ripped off for having to go to school in the middle of Mexico. They think this is Mexico, and to hell with us. The gubment just grins and looks the other way. I just want to grab a gun sometimes.
2005-08-02 13:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE]"We have been invaded; there's no other word for it," Anderson said.
The audience clapped and cheered.[/QUOTE]
Watch it there, Anderson, you're getting mighty close to "White Supremacist" rhetoric there! If you keep it up, you'll find yourself out of a job and Homeland Security will call you a racist, xenophobe, anti-semitic, terrorist and torture the living daylights out of you!
2005-08-02 14:00 | User Profile
The undocumented steal jobs from citizens and crowd schools,
The MSM ,at the instuction of the masters, is throwing us a whimsical bone to chew on, while continuing their new-speak to psychologically condition us on how hopeless it is to resist the hoard.
Notice how this article ends:
Unflappable throughout the steady stream of scoffs and jeers, Parks told the crowd its anger was misdirected:
"You can stay angry, but they are not going to go away," he said. "Whether you want to hear it or not, no one is going to build a fence around the state of California and clear out everyone you think is here illegally."
The gov't message is: "You cattle in LA need to get inline and get with the system."
2005-08-02 14:19 | User Profile
At first I thought this article was going to be about just another group of demonized, angry White folks tha tare pissed off about illegals. Now that I read it, I have to say this is a good look at the black vs brown side of the picture.
I had to raise one eyebrow at this part:
Debbie Hernandez, a white member of the audience, said: "Blacks are losing their middle-class status because of illegal aliens. I am willing to go to the streets with my brothers and sisters over this."
Hmmmm, with a last name like that and suppsedly White ? She must be one of those that skew the demographics of any location. Hispanics that claim to be white vs non-hispanic Whites.
Still, this was a good read.
2005-08-02 14:25 | User Profile
J.W.: Hmmmm, with a last name like that and suppsedly White ? She must be one of those that skew the demographics of any location. Hispanics that claim to be white vs non-hispanic Whites.
Who knows. She could be a Delphi plant, being quoted to gain credibility with the audience, only to later redirect the anger of this group to an outcome the masters want.
2005-08-02 14:26 | User Profile
Debbie Hernandez, a white member of the audience,
I wouldn't vote for her if she ran for office.
2005-08-02 15:33 | User Profile
Take away the honey and the bees wont come.
Because I live by myself I let my kitchen go once in a while, the other night I went to get a glass of water and all that I could see was a blanket of big black ants, the next day I took the kitchen apart and clean everything inside out and from then on there was no more big black ants. :thumbsup:
Instead of going after the illegals they should go after those who gives them work, once there is no work for the illegals they will stopp coming in.
If the US government wont do anything then the people should go either to the state or local level in order for someone to take some sort of action. :angry:
"If there are no jobs they won't come"....Ponce
2005-08-02 16:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE]... They think this is Mexico...[/QUOTE]
Too True. Before I moved out of So. Cal. the two most common (and popular) bumper stickers on lowered Impala's and crap box Cavaliers were:
"F**k You, This Is Mexico" and the little peeing Calvin standing on the words "LaMigra"
2005-08-02 21:48 | User Profile
It's funny when you think about it. Blacks and Latinos thought they'd make common cause against the big bad white man. Then the Asians jumped on the bandwagaon. The Arabs came next; and before you know it, almost every non-white group was on Whitey's head.
Then came the blow to the head from the hard rock of reality.
When push comes to shove, it's every race for itself. Now blacks have come to understand, in our own distinct fashion, the ramifications of illegal Hispanic immigration.
2005-08-03 00:06 | User Profile
"A lot of black boys and girls are dropping out, and it's because their classes are overwhelmed with illegal Hispanics," Peterson said.
Maybe the blacks are upset because the Mexi's refer to them using the Spanish word, "negro". Or the cottonpickin' Africans just want an excuse not to go to school.