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Blond Knight [OP]

2005-07-28 12:30 | User Profile

When the author of the following article uses the word "British", one should remember that by this point in time, the Brits were under the influence of the Rothschild / Zionist bunch who, being parasites, are always looking for fresh blood, (wealth) to use for furthering their own selfish aims. Hence in a few years down the road, after America is bled dry we can expect to see the tribe shift their tentacles to the new centers of power, China, India, ect.

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[url]http://www.whtt.org/index_temp.php?news=2&id=171[/url]

The British Empire Re-colonized America with a Bank and a Book By Charles E. Carlson Jul 19, 2005

In 1908 British central bankers financed a new book named The Scofield Reference Bible for sale in America. A generation later it had become the theological underpinning for a new religion—a neo-Christianity, with hundreds of opportunistic clones flooding the seminaries and bible bookstores. The book became the primary justification among neo-christian Americans for perpetual war in the Middle East. Those who bankrolled the book provided what appeared to be limitless financing and technical support, as would be expected when the prize is the conquest of the world’s greatest and most “Christian” superpower.

This neo-christianity coincided with the rise of the World Zionist movement in Europe. The two movements had common participants, common financiers, and seemingly common objectives. The new religion was funded to insure that America’s organized Churches would not seriously interfere with the aims of the World Zionist movement.

This new religion, also a British import first seen in America in last half of the 19th Century, is distinct from traditional Christianity. Its adherents know they are different and refer to themselves by several names, including dispensationalist, which is adopted from the footnotes of the Scofield Reference Bible published and owned by the prestigious Oxford University Press. More recently Israel’s political leaders have dubbed them “Christian Zionists.”

The Empire has achieved its goal of controlling America with unending serial wars, a central bank, called The Federal Reserve which created the illusion of paying for each war, and a corrupted bible which justifies wars one by one. Our estimate is that more than 100 million Americans are being deceived from the pulpit, in dispensational bible studies, and over the Celebrity-Christian airwaves.

Project Strait Gate is We Hold These Truths’ mission to oppose this enslavement of body and soul. We focus on those who call themselves by Christ’s name, but who have been deceived to accept war and its attendant money dilution and moral depravity.

Are you up to challenging the Empire and its Neo-con operatives, political Zionism, and the Christian Right enablers…all marching in lock step? If you are, we can use your help, and we will usher you directly to the doors of your would be captor’s weakest link, the Christian-Zionist churches in your hometown. We can show you what to do, and how to enjoy doing it.


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Blond Knight

2005-07-28 12:45 | User Profile

More on Scofield & co.


[url]http://www.whtt.org/index_temp.php?news=2&id=150[/url]

Scofield: Soft Leather Outside, Corrupt Inside.

Charles E. Carlson

Answering Steve:

“What do you consider is the most honest truthful Bible interpretation a Christian can read today?”

Regards, Steve

Dear Steve:

We hear this question a lot, and we are not experts, but this writer has an opinion. There are two Bibles, not one, the Old and New Testaments. They should never have been combined to look like one book. To do so is like publishing a modern 2005 physics book with a 1910 physics edition pasted on in front. Physics has changed in those 95 years, and the Old Testament and the New are thousands of years apart, why would one have to read the old first to get to the new?

If you are a Jew contemplating following Christ, you may need an Old Testament to help you decide if Jesus is really the fulfillment of Biblical prophesy, as He claims. For most of us, the OT should be reference history. Jesus said He fulfilled the old law, if we believe Him we don't need to wade through the ancient 600 laws of Deuteronomy 28 to get there. The NT is about following Christ, and it is only about 250 full-sized pages. It does not contain a coherent thought in it about killing people or making war on your leaders' supposed enemies. You cannot find a verse or line about taking your neighbor's land by force or making a slave out of his children. So read the New Testament first. Its authors will tell you when and where you need to read backwards into history.

As for what edition of the NT is trustworthy, my humble suggestion may surprise you, and I have only read a few. Do not worry too much about which translation you should read. Buy a New Testament that fits your pocket and has big enough print for you. Choose one, if you can find it, without a single footnote or inserted guides between and among the text.

We sell a low priced one called the "Vest-Pocket size New Testament" commonly known as the King James Version (KJV). But I don't personally carry it because I have trouble reading aloud from the old English. I much prefer the Good News New Testament, published by the American Bible Society. Some theologians malign this one, but its footnote free, and it gets the story across in context. It is also very easily understood by children. You can always check and compare the text in your oversized 2000 page King James Version on the shelf at home. Carry this one in your pocket.

A word about the most DISHONEST bible interpretations. We have learned by comparing that several study or reference bibles compete for the bottom of the barrel, including the NIV Study Bible, published by Zondervan and controlled by Australian secularist, Rupert Murdock through his reported ownership of Harper and Row. Mr. Murdock borrowed about $400 million from Citibank to purchase Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network a few years ago, and he owns Fox News (which give the furry animal a bad name).

Similarly devious and cleverly disguised is John McArthur's study bible, which undermines the New Testament. The all time best seller is the Scofield Reference Bible that set a standard for corrupted footnoting when it created a national "sin of anti-Semitism." Between its disarmingly beautiful leather covers are pages that claim it is God's will to judge all nations based on how generous they are to "Jews." This should be called the Zionist's 11th commandment. You will find this amazing law on pages 19-20 of the 1967 Edition.

Most study bibles have a thousand pages of footnotes or more. The Scofield Reference Bible is the unchallenged king of bible corruption, being totally shameless in its sponsorship of Israel as a nation-god. It is the primary textbook for "Christian" enabler of serial wars in the Mideast and the liquidation of Israel's neighbors. You can find Scofield 1967 Editions in used books store, cheap. It proves what the World Zionist Movement wants you to think. -end

DEAR MR. HEYMANN,

I am again quoting your latest letter, which defies answering for want of sincerity. This does not mean we will not debate with you if you will play by reasonable rules.

Here is our last letter we sent to you earlier.

To Mr. Heymann

I see we have answered several of your letters (more correctly, we acknowledged them) but you have not asked specific questions. Give us the one piece of scripture that supports your view that the State of Israel is a fulfillment of Bible prophesies. (Or whatever points you are trying to make). Please give us the best argument you have from one place within the Bible. We believe God is intelligent; therefore there should be an intelligent argument in one place by one of his prophets or disciples, or from Jesus Christ himself to support your view. Just one now, your best shot please." -cecarl

Here is what Mr. Heymann sent to us, verbatim:

Isaiah 66:8 "Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall the earth be made to give birth in one day? Or shall a nation be born at once? Fulfilled May 14,1948

Romans11:1 "I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

Romans 11:18 "Do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast,

remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you."

Romans 11: 25 "For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in."

The Jewish people have been hated and persecuted more than any other people on the face of the planet. And why?

The only reason that makes any sense is that it is purely inspired by Satan. God has made promises to Israel. That they are His chosen witness people. Their existence today is a miracle and a sign of God's great hand of sovereignty.

In 1948 there were only 300,000 Jews in Israel and they were attacked by 1.6 million Arabs yet they prevailed with inferior firepower and obviously well outnumbered.

Am I against preaching the word to Palestinians? Of course not. The existence of Israel is only the work of the hand of God. And Israel has become a "cup of trembling" to the entire world as prophesied in the Old Testament.

Who are the 144,000 witnesses spoken of in the end times if not believing Jews?

Aided with the nation of Israel by God, and the God of the bible is the same yesterday, today and forever He does not change.

By the way Carl your e-mail seemed a little hostile but then again the Gospel is an offense and sometimes I understand the truth does hurt. However what you feel is irrelevant God said it, I believe it, and that settles it."

-End

Why we do answer the above

Mr. Heymann, we want our readers to recognize how you and so many others caught up in Judaized-Christianity think and argue. By sending us the alphabet soup of unrelated scripture, garnished with your own thoughts, what you do is imply an incomprehensible God who is not capable of making himself understood. You make your god out to be a C-student dyslexic who can't write a clear page or verse. Not so, God is at least as intelligent as you are. He does not need you to patch His thoughts together with random bits and pieces of scriptures gathered from here and there. This is so typical of what Judaized-Christians do when they are confronted that we want our readers to see it.

If you want to talk to We Hold These Truths through scripture, and be answered, please let God speak for Himself. Do not ask us to join in insulting His name by playing Judaized-Christian scrabble.

Again, let me say this: to get an answer from us, you have only to pick your one best, most self-evident argument; then give us the full quote you are standing on, then explain in detail what you think this citation of yours means and why.

CECarlson


Happy Hacker

2005-07-28 15:18 | User Profile

On the score of Israel and Jews, the modern Bible versions are tainted by the blasphemous belief that the state of Israel is the restored Israel.

Just a few days ago, I found a featured article on a Christian website which starts:> [B]Creation days and Orthodox Jewish tradition[/B]

by Paul James-Griffiths, UK

After years of agonizing over the literal days of creation in Genesis, I decided to spend time researching this problem at the London School of Jewish Studies in Hendon, England. After all, I thought, why shouldn’t I go to the natural Jewish vine for some answers? [URL=http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v26/i2/tradition.asp]link[/URL]

Natural Jewish vine? Jesus said he is the true vine and that Jews are branches that have been removed. Blind, wicked, unbelieving Jews are authorities on Scripture? It boggles my mind how corrupt someone's thinking must be to say what Paul James-hyphenated-Griffiths has said, and then for other Christians to publish or feature that corrupt article.

Zionism is the most damaging thing to Christendom in the last 2000 years.


Petr

2005-07-28 16:26 | User Profile

[COLOR=Red][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "Blind, wicked, unbelieving Jews are authorities on Scripture? It boggles my mind how corrupt someone's thinking must be to say what Paul James-hyphenated-Griffiths has said, and then for other Christians to publish or feature that corrupt article."[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

Michael A. Hoffman had a good comment on this ultra-[I]naive[/I] phenomenon:

[url]http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html[/url]

[FONT=Georgia][B][COLOR=Blue]"It is not for nothing that the authoritative edition of the Talmud is known as the Babylonian Talmud. As [U]Christians misled by their Judaizing preachers and popes are increasingly consulting Jewish rabbinical sources for a "pure" understanding of the Old Testament, they are unknowingly consulting the occult[/U].

Judaism is the religion of the Pharisees and the patrimony of Babylon, from whence the Talmudic and Kabbalistic traditions of Judaism ultimately derive. Orthodox Judaism's other sacred book, the Kabbalah, is filled with astrological teachings, fortune-telling, gematria, necromancy and demonology."[/COLOR][/B][/FONT]

Petr


Petr

2005-07-28 17:07 | User Profile

Here a Greek church father John Chrysostom gives some pointed words on the slogan "[I]We should venerate Jews because they gave us the Old Testament[/I]", turning it upside down:

(Here we can also see how Judaizing pestilence existed already in the late 4th century AD)

[url]http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/chrysostom-jews6.html#HOMILY_II[/url]

[COLOR=DarkRed]FONT=Arial [B]Since there are some who think of the synagogue as a holy place, I must say a few words to them. [/B] Why do you reverence that place? Must you not despise it, hold it in abomination, run away from it? They answer that the Law and the books of the prophets are kept there. What is this? Will any place where these books are be a holy place? [B]By no means! [U]This is the reason above all others why I hate the synagogue and abhor it[/U]. They have the prophets but not believe them; they read the sacred writings but reject their witness-and this is a mark of men guilty of the greatest outrage[/B].

(3) Tell me this. [B]If you were to see a venerable man, illustrious and renowned, dragged off into a tavern or den of robbers; if you were to see him outraged, beaten, and subjected there to the worst violence, would you have held that tavern or den in high esteem because that great and esteemed man had been inside it while undergoing that violent treatment?[/B] I think not. Rather, for this very reason you would have hated and abhorred the place.

(4) Let that be your judgment about the synagogue, too. [B]For they brought the books of Moses and the prophets along with them into the synagogue, not to honor them but to outrage them with dishonor. [/B] When they say that Moses and the prophets knew not Christ and said nothing about his coming, what greater outrage could they do to those holy men than to accuse them of failing to recognize their Master, than to say that those saintly prophets are partners of their impiety? And so it is that we must hate both them and their synagogue all the more because of their offensive treatment of those holy men.

(5) Why do I speak about the books and the synagogues? [B]In time of persecution, the public executioners lay hold of the bodies of the martyrs, they scourge them, and tear them to pieces. Does it make the executioners' hands holy because they lay hold of the body of holy men?[/B] Heaven forbid! The hands which grasped and held the bodies of the holy ones still stay unholy. Why? Because those executioners did a wicked thing when they laid their hands upon the holy. And will those who handle and outrage the writings of the holy ones be any more venerable for this than those who executed the martyrs? Would that not be the ultimate foolishness? If the maltreated bodies of the martyrs do not sanctify those who maltreated them but even add to their blood-guilt, much less could the Scriptures, if read without belief, ever help those who read without believing. The very act of deliberately choosing to maltreat the Scriptures convicts them of greater godlessness.

(6) If they did not have the prophets, they would not deserve such punishment; if they had not read the sacred books, they would not be so unclean and so unholy. But, as it is, they have been stripped of all excuse. They do have the heralds of the truth but, with hostile heart, they set themselves against the prophets and the truth they speak. So it is for this reason that they would be all the more profane and blood-guilty: they have the prophets, but they treat them with hostile hearts.

(7) So it is that I exhort you to flee and shun their gatherings. The harm they bring to our weaker brothers is not slight; they offer no slight excuse to sustain to the folly of the Jews. For when they see that you, who worship the Christ whom they crucified, are reverently following their rituals, how can they fail to think that the rites they have performed are the best and that our ceremonies are worthless? For after you worship and adore at our mysteries, you run to the very men who destroy our rites. Paul said: "If a man sees you that have knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not his conscience, being weak, be emboldened to eat those things which are sacrificed to idols"? And let me say: If a man sees you that have knowledge come into the synagogue and participate in the festival of the Trumpets, shall not his conscience, being weak, be emboldened to admire what the Jews do? He who falls not only pays the penalty for his own fall, but he is also punished because he trips others as well. But the man who has stood firm is rewarded not only because of his own virtue but people admire him for leading others to desire the same things.

(8) Therefore, flee the gatherings and holy places of the Jews.[B] Let no man venerate the synagogue because of the holy books; let him hate and avoid it because the Jews outrage and maltreat the holy ones, because they refuse to believe their words, because they accuse them of the ultimate impiety[/B].[/FONT][/COLOR]