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Now Niccolo's Phora Is "Down"

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il ragno [OP]

2005-07-28 12:24 | User Profile

Well...surprise, surprise.

The despicable troll Brandon (Raina) Orr is outed, paraded around pantsless and then banned off Niccolo's Phora in Exile this past weeknd...and now apparently even [I]this[/I] version of the Phora has "ceased to exist".

The list of suspects shortens considerably.

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Petr

2005-07-28 13:20 | User Profile

The time for any kind of mercy for Raina is past. From now on, she must be whacked on sight - are you able to contact Niccolo, Ragno?

Petr


il ragno

2005-07-28 13:39 | User Profile

I am able to contact [I]nobody[/I], alas. Only Edana, and that's via LF. The only msg-board posters who I swap email with are mostly a few regulars over here, and AY and Wintermute.

As for Orr, I don't (yet) have a complete fix on his location. I'll need some help there, but the Phora crashing (again) complicates things.

Nordish seems to have become a completely different sort of board now, so I doubt anyone would relocate there. A few will head to VNNF, some others (perhaps) to MSF. I'm hoping the majority will convene on this thread.


SteamshipTime

2005-07-28 13:50 | User Profile

I'll drop him a line. And I very much agree: there can be no compromise with such people.


il ragno

2005-07-28 13:56 | User Profile

A note of caution. If the board [u]has[/u] been hacked, they'll have all the members' email addresses.

Until we know what happened exactly, it's best to delete any email you might receive from senders you don't recognize [u]un[/u]opened.


Cracker of the Whip

2005-07-28 14:25 | User Profile

Do you think this is the same Raina that appeared on VNNF? Anybody?


il ragno

2005-07-28 15:07 | User Profile

Board appears to be back up....I think.

Cracker: most likely, but I'm not there often enough to say.


Cracker of the Whip

2005-07-28 15:48 | User Profile

[QUOTE=il ragno]Cracker: most likely, but I'm not there often enough to say.[/QUOTE] Just curious. The Raina on VNNF came across as a female houswife with no hostility that I ever saw.


Petr

2005-07-28 16:20 | User Profile

[COLOR=Purple][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "The Raina on VNNF came across as a female houswife with no hostility that I ever saw."[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

She's is not just any ordinary bored troll, she's a sociopathic professional.

Raina is capable of ably imitating/channeling [B]many[/B] different voices, including that of Alex Linder, in his psychological manipulations - it's real "Exorcist" stuff...

[B][I] "Why did you do this to me, Dimmie?" [/I] [/B]

Petr


Bardamu

2005-07-28 23:50 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Cracker of the Whip]Do you think this is the same Raina that appeared on VNNF? Anybody?[/QUOTE]

No. NOt the same one.


grep14w

2005-07-28 23:59 | User Profile

What is the URL of the phora nowadays anyway....the old URL still points to AIPAC.


6KILLER

2005-07-29 19:38 | User Profile

[QUOTE=grep14w]What is the URL of the phora nowadays anyway....the old URL still points to AIPAC.[/QUOTE][url="http://niccoloandphora.mywowbb.com/"]http://niccoloandphora.mywowbb.com/[/url]


grep14w

2005-07-30 00:01 | User Profile

Thanks.

I take it this new phora is not related to Fade the Butcher?

I remember Niccolo and Donkey vaguely from Liberty Forum, but don't remember anything about him. Is he another one of those dreaded "internet Balkan Slavs"?

I swear, I used to be blissfully ignorant of Slavs and the Balkans in general, until discovering Liberty Forum. These people are worse than Irish Nationalists! And I mean that in the nicest possible way.

Edit: ah, nevermind. Reading a bit on that forum Niccolo isn't who I was thinking. He seems quite rational on the muslim question, for instance, understanding Ossama bin Laden's actual strategy to provoke us into destabilizing the middle east, understanding how the Zionists and neo-cons share this desire to destabilize the middle east, etc. In other words Niccolo isn't one of those Balkan slavic Christians so obsessed with anti-Islamic agendas that he falls hook-line-and-sinker for the Jewish neo-con gameplan.


robinder

2005-07-30 00:42 | User Profile

[QUOTE] I swear, I used to be blissfully ignorant of Slavs and the Balkans in general, until discovering Liberty Forum. These people are worse than Irish Nationalists![/QUOTE] That might be the case, but perhaps in part the cause is that there are only two sides in Ireland. Irish Republicans are maddeningly frustrating as interlocutors. They usually aren't violent or fanatical like the Balkan folks, but I find talking with them about union vs. republican issues is usually no more than a waste of time. The only thing to be gained from an exchange about such topics is a demonstration that they do not accept the popular sovereignty of Northern Ireland. Now, I'm not rabidly partisan on the issue, but most of the people in Northern Ireland support union, and the obsfucation and circumlocution Republicans employ to avoid this fundamentally pertinent fact will never cease to irritate me.


grep14w

2005-07-30 01:16 | User Profile

Yes, I agree with your take on things. My remark about the Irish was a bit more tongue in cheek though; I probably should have put up one of those smiley things by way of explanation, ie: :tongue:


madrussian

2005-07-30 03:18 | User Profile

I am Slavic but I wasn't aware of the Balkan thing until reading internet boards either :dry:


grep14w

2005-07-30 03:35 | User Profile

[QUOTE=madrussian]I am Slavic but I wasn't aware of the Balkan thing until reading internet boards either :dry:[/QUOTE]Must be something in the water down there in the Balkans! :tongue:


tricknologist

2005-08-07 22:26 | User Profile

I was rather hoping that with the change of ownership this BS would end.


il ragno

2005-08-07 22:42 | User Profile

The site is down while they add the old vBulletin archives on.


tricknologist

2005-08-07 23:10 | User Profile

[QUOTE=il ragno]The site is down while they add the old vBulletin archives on.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the info.

I saw that there was a thread about "the site will be down for a while" but never bothered to read it.


JacksonInTheValley

2005-08-07 23:37 | User Profile

[QUOTE=tricknologist]Thanks for the info.

I saw that there was a thread about "the site will be down for a while" but never bothered to read it.[/QUOTE]

Isn't there supposed to be a new URL, too?

I concur with your take on the Irish nationalism issue, Robin, though I probably come across as one of the "rabidly fanatical." :tnguess:


2600

2005-08-07 23:54 | User Profile

They're moving all the archives to a new URL.

Should be back up soon.


King_Tiger

2005-08-08 00:41 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Cracker of the Whip]Just curious. The Raina on VNNF came across as a female houswife with no hostility that I ever saw.[/QUOTE] No, she claims to be a different Raina and I believe her; her behavior has been normal.

However, I believe Orr uses the account "Jim Underwood", and I'm sure he was "Ol' King Chracoal", the pervert who recently posted pictures on VNN that were so revolting they warranted his immediate and permanent banning. (Luckily, they were deleted by mods before I saw them)


starr

2005-08-08 00:58 | User Profile

[QUOTE] However, I believe Orr uses the account "Jim Underwood", [/QUOTE]I can believe that, "jim underwood" was creepy.

[QUOTE] Luckily, they were deleted by mods before I saw them[/QUOTE] Yeah, you were lucky. I only saw two of them, but that was bad enough.:eek:


tricknologist

2005-08-08 01:31 | User Profile

[QUOTE=King_Tiger]No, she claims to be a different Raina and I believe her; her behavior has been normal.

However, I believe Orr uses the account "Jim Underwood", and I'm sure he was "Ol' King Chracoal", the pervert who recently posted pictures on VNN that were so revolting they warranted his immediate and permanent banning. (Luckily, they were deleted by mods before I saw them)[/QUOTE] From my occasional reading of VNNF, I would agree with that.


tricknologist

2005-08-08 01:34 | User Profile

[QUOTE=starr]

Yeah, you were lucky. I only saw two of them, but that was bad enough.:eek:[/QUOTE] I know what you mean, my first post on the Phora was a PM to Fade complaining about the posts that earned Raina the nick-name, "Scat Vamp".


Cracker of the Whip

2005-08-08 01:56 | User Profile

[QUOTE=King_Tiger]No, she claims to be a different Raina and I believe her; her behavior has been normal.

That's what I thought.

However, I believe Orr uses the account [B]"Jim Underwood", [/B] and I'm sure he was "Ol' King Chracoal", the pervert who recently posted pictures on VNN that were so revolting they warranted his immediate and permanent banning. (Luckily, they were deleted by mods before I saw them)[/QUOTE] I vaguely remember the name.


starr

2005-08-08 02:47 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Cracker of the Whip]

I vaguely remember the name.[/QUOTE] his/her/it's earlier posts were mostly directed at me and later posts at Carrigan. Here is one where it expresses it's love for me.:oh: I had to clean up some of the foul language since that seems to get censored on here.

I suggest your waddle out of that padded chair in yer trailer park and continue on stimulating your clitoris to that mangy loser, Phil Anselmo. You got that you walking abortion? Nice new account you signed up, my apologies that you were alienated and made fun of like the freak you are in high school by all the pretty blonde girls Well there is superiority and inferiority for you, trucker dyke. You are doing nothing but driving away decent people from our cause heer. You’re not relevant in this world, “Hitler Goddess.” We’re tired of looking at you, end yourself! I am replying more so out of personal amusement than out of caring what some angst ridden, piece of worthless trailer park trash like yourself thinks about me hahahahahahaha. Would it be that hard to pull something out of your spherically challenged brain besides inane one liners pig? And you want to know why nothing short of deranged, malnourished, piece of Hitler dick sucking homo would be the only man to give you the time of day? I'll take my spacious single family home any day of the week over yer double-wide where incestuous gang bangs take place weekly. It’s not my fault that genetic defectives like yourself have jealousy issues with a beautiful white phenotype. Low life pigs such as yourself are so insecure in your emotions that if you didn’t use White Power to run that mouth of yours you would be on Maury Povich paternity test episodes looking for your chocolate baby daddy. Dammit this freak show is getting old. She comes on heer with the pseudonym "Hitler Goddess" [img]http://www.vnnforum.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] It is not a hatred for women it is a hatred for inbred wastes of flesh such as yourself. Get a life pig, you’re boring! Men and Women like you are what is wrong with the white race. Look in the mirror cow, that’s what happens when family members reproduce and its a * up result. I hope to god this cow is just a Hitler cock suckin fag trying to get his rocks off posing as a "woman" and not a real woman. This filthy pig cant be real. God Dammit!!

King_Tiger

2005-08-08 02:58 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Cracker of the Whip]That's what I thought.

I vaguely remember the name.[/QUOTE] [url="http://www.vnnforum.com/member.php?userid=1868"]http://www.vnnforum.com/member.php?userid=1868[/url]

This is what Orr had to say about Fade right after he got with Carrigan:

Haw haw haw...

This 'Phade' geek is about to reappear on his second-rate web phorum bragging about having phucked that social outcast, sleaze 'Carrigan' up there....The only pussy this awkward mother *er can get is when he drives out of state [*for 3 minutes of penetration and premature ejaculation] with some bland 'net geek. I'll take my voluptuous blondes that I am having sex with every weekend over his ****in flat chested, soot black eyed, 'net weirdo.

Cheers yawl TG [url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=195473#post195473"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=195473#post195473[/url]


albion

2005-08-08 04:33 | User Profile

I can't belive you people save this stuff. Don't you have lives, things to do, ambitions or ideals to pursue?:cry: :cry: :cry:


starr

2005-08-09 00:44 | User Profile

So does anyone have any clue as to when it is going to be back up?


G.Larson

2005-08-09 07:00 | User Profile

And the lord did command that there shall be no wookie pie for the phora.


Jaguar

2005-08-09 13:12 | User Profile

So, what happened to Niccolo's phora, is it down for good?

btw. I'm an internet-Balkan-Slav :P


King_Tiger

2005-08-09 20:42 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Jaguar]So, what happened to Niccolo's phora, is it down for good?

btw. I'm an internet-Balkan-Slav :P[/QUOTE]Well he warned us Saturday or Sunday that the forum would be down because it was getting a new URL and they were adding the VBulletin archives to it. He said the new URL would be posted on the old link for a while...

It's been 4-5 days though... just goes to show, never trust these Balkanoids.:osama:


il ragno

2005-08-09 20:51 | User Profile

I had a feeling adding the old archives was going to be a bigger job than "a few hours" of down-time. For one thing, since the old Phora category-folders don't match the new ones, that probably means a lot of manual additions as opposed to hitting 'enter', or dropping-and-dragging, and transferring material in bulk.

But it's only been two days, anyway. I'm sure they'll be back up by Friday.


starr

2005-08-09 21:34 | User Profile

[QUOTE]

I had a feeling adding the old archives was going to be a bigger job than "a few hours" of down-time.

[/QUOTE] Yes, that is what I thought also, something like that is bound to take longer then several hours, as he put it.


Jaguar

2005-08-10 01:52 | User Profile

hey, we may be Balkanized, but we're united in annoying foreigners to death :D


madrussian

2005-08-10 03:53 | User Profile

It's good when the foreigners you annoy are other Balkanoids.


John Dryden

2005-08-10 06:23 | User Profile

[QUOTE=King_Tiger]However, I believe Orr uses the account "Jim Underwood", and I'm sure he was "Ol' King Chracoal", the pervert who recently posted pictures on VNN that were so revolting they warranted his immediate and permanent banning. (Luckily, they were deleted by mods before I saw them)[/QUOTE] Of course. Anyone with a shred of common sense can see that "Jim Underwood" is Raina. Who else was that obsessed with Carrigan at the time (when she didn't really post at VNNF) to revive a thread that had been dead for months? Who else would have known (and cared, and gotten pissed off, and posted about it too!) that I was in North Carolina hours before I had even gotten home and told anyone about the trip? No one but Raina could have known about that. Who knew Carrigan's real first name at the time and how it bothered her? No one but Raina. And certainly not some random stranger posting on the internet. What random guy posting on VNN would have seen Carrigan's photo as early as March when it was never posted there? Who else would have posted in that many threads at VNN about women's issues and blondes? C'mon. If that were not enough, Jim Underwood even mentioned something about my face being shoved in a toilet in his last post.

[url="http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=211869#post211869"]http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=211869#post211869[/url]

The scatological reference alone (aside from the fact that it admitted to being JU in a long lost IM conversation) gave it away. LOL only Brandon "Definitely Not Gay" Orr (see the archives of [url="http://www.toilet-slut.com/"]www.toilet-slut.com[/url]) posts on forums like these in such a manner, thinks like that, would have known what Jim Underwood knew at the time, and would have been mad enough to comment upon it at the time. But we all know lil'Brannie would never lie.

No. No. No. . .

There are lots of straight guys out there with tons of gay porn on their computer, who have phone sex with homosexual men for years, who pretend and fantasize about being a transsexual woman for years, who get off on degrading attractive women (remember, "blonde bimbos" take away the attractive guys lil'Brannie is interested in), who put up personal websites and online advertisements to attract GAY MEN, who have multiple Yahoo Messenger IDs for interacting with GAY MEN.

Brandon "Definitely Not Gay" Orr, though, points out that his real opinions are quite far removed from Jim Underwood's. Fair enough. But Orr (Raina/Daedra Morrighan/Shayna Diamond et al) has also said all kinds of things in the past under hundreds of various online identities.

"Or you might be lying, and given your history, there's no reason to think otherwise."

[url="http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_thread/thread/bbde3bfe388153b1/9607764803c466dc?lnk=st&q=brandon+orr+sexist&rnum=23#9607764803c466dc"]http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_thread/thread/bbde3bfe388153b1/9607764803c466dc?lnk=st&q=brandon+orr+sexist&rnum=23#9607764803c466dc[/url]

^^ a good point. "Daedra" or "Raina" would never say anything like . . .

[url="http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.white-power/browse_frm/thread/3bfe034f5657f7c0/582aa10f2f35165f?lnk=st&q=brandon+orr+sexist&rnum=12#582aa10f2f35165f"]http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.white-power/browse_frm/thread/3bfe034f5657f7c0/582aa10f2f35165f?lnk=st&q=brandon+orr+sexist&rnum=12#582aa10f2f35165f[/url]

Brandon Orr presents himself today as opposed to gender-based bigotry. But

he earlier wrote:

From: Daedra (brann[url="http://groups-beta.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=622797d69aa9c119&_done=/group/alt.politics.white-power/browse_frm/thread/3bfe034f5657f7c0/582aa10f2f35165f%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dbrandon+orr+sexist%26rnum%3D12%26"][color=#0000cc]...[/color][/url]@tvec.net) Subject: Feminism: Friend of the State, Enemy of the People Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans Date: 1999/06/13

The state, and statists such as liberals, LOVE feminism, because it's a philosophy that goes so much against human nature that its "practical" implementation just begs for huge amounts of government intervention. It creates more problems as time goes by, which continues to feed the machine of big government.

Children fare best having a biological parent with them at home, especially the mother. This set-up is much more beneficial for children than that of both parents working away from home. Kids need nurturing and guidance as they grow up, and the system of having a mother at home to provide these things can't be adequately replaced by any known alternative. The erosion of the nuclear family by feminism, liberalism, socialism and other factors is one of the root causes of the general corruption of American society that can be observed today.

One of the most serious shortcomings of contemporary American society can be found in the area of male leadership in the household. Whereas women once stayed in the lair as a pillar of love and nurture for their children, they now are gone to work along with the man of the family. As a result of this rather awkward masculinization of the mother, men are forced to attempt to compensate for the related imbalance by becoming part-time mothers, and helping around the house. Women are busily lowering the quality of the workforce, and demanding increasingly larger affirmative action quotas that already have a stranglehold on the hiring modus operandi nationwide. The sissification of men has resulted in a generation of cowardly and compromising weaklings who are by and large sitting complacently as they watch the deterioration of America continue right before their eyes. The once stable nuclear family has reached a patently disgusting low of degeneracy, the root evil of a huge array of malevolent problems that are crippling this nation. Will it take the near or total destruction of our civilization for its people to realize that no matter how many laws are passed and programs approved, human nature will always stay basically the same? When will we admit that women are indisputably best qualified for the role of the mother, and that men have the competitive aggressiveness needed for the tasks of breadwinning and leadership? Men are trying to look, act, and live like women, and vice versa, and it just isn't working. Women try to act tough and unfeminine in a twisted attempt to compensate for the lack of strong masculine authority, and men try to discover the feminine within because they are now surrounded by hordes of pseudo-dykes, whereas it once would have been princesses. Our civilization is failing.

The potent, aggressive male spirit that built this nation is needed to sustain this nation. The feminine essence that serves as the natural complement to this manly energy has always been the glue that held civilization together, because it's the very stuff that good family is made of. And it's in as terrifyingly short supply today as is the healthy expression of the male principle. It's high time that we return to older, more traditional values, and admit that the socialist, liberal, progressive ideas have been nothing but a curse for America. They have ravaged our towns, plundered our souls, and destroyed the stability of all our people. It's time for men to once again look like men and act like men. It's time for women to be themselves again at last instead of trying to conform to some feminist's theories, at the perilous expense of their children. It's time that men stop worrying about being politically correct and instead go after what's right and true. It's time they take charge, grab the wheel, and steer the ship back to safe waters. America doesn't need anymore complacency and laziness, broken homes or single mothers. America needs strong families, and such cannot exist without strong men and women to make them. Our society is as bankrupt in family values as its deficit is huge. Civilization suffers when politically supported androgyny and relativism become the norm. Absolute values, lived to the fullest by gentlemen and ladies, are a sure mark of a rich culture.

The traditional family will prevail, eventually. It is definitely the superior building block of civilization. Question is, will Western Civilization have to collapse before people will finally realize this? Daedra [url="http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/carcassofgod"][color=#0000cc]http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/carcassofgod[/color][/url]


John Dryden

2005-08-10 06:33 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Jaguar]So, what happened to Niccolo's phora, is it down for good?

btw. I'm an internet-Balkan-Slav :P[/QUOTE]The Phora will be back in some version or another in the near future. I have nothing to do with the current site so I don't know what is wrong with it.


Faust

2005-08-10 06:37 | User Profile

What is with that forum anyway? :wacko:

And why do they keep changing the URL?


John Dryden

2005-08-10 06:38 | User Profile

[QUOTE=xxxgt]If you don't want me around, then you're an idiot for mentioning my name. If you don't want the Phora graced with my presence, then STFU.[/QUOTE]You will never post on The Phora again. BTW, I heard from one of your old buddies recently.

"Brandon is a sick little narcissistic troll from near Scurry, Texas. He likes to pretend to be halfway through a sex-change and says he loves dining on human excrement. He was calling himself Deidra Morrighan back then, and claimed to be the leader of a vast underground terrorist/political organization laughingly called the Pornonationalists or something just as stupid. But I'm sure you knew something of his claims, or you wouldn't be writing me.

I kicked his ass in the Usenet arena many many times, and I'm sure he's still whining about it. He's sent all sorts of death threats to me and threatening my family. After about 6 months of kicking his ass in Usenet, I spanked him good & hard by discovering his real name and posting it to Usenet. His response was hilarious. I assume that you've seen the parts of my website about him. So, what I'd like to know is how you found me, and which a forum/s is he harassing of late? That is if you're not Orr pretending to be someone named ****. Little Branny loves to mail bomb my website mail accounts, which I rarely even read."


John Dryden

2005-08-10 06:44 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Faust]What is with that forum anyway? It kept getting hacked by an antifascist internet troll who goes by the name of "Scobby." The same guy has taken down blutundboden.com and The Nordish Portal several times.> And why do they keep changing the URL?[/QUOTE]We still have the old URL. The Phora In Exile was meant to be a temporary forum until we got around to restoring the vBulletin. As for the current site, I don't know what is wrong with it. Niccolo is in charge there.


John Dryden

2005-08-10 09:08 | User Profile

What you want and what actually happens are entirely different beasts.

You won't be posting on The Phora again. I can assure you of that. Feel free to try though if you want. It will take me less than five minutes to compose and shoot off an email with a few juicy links to someone's parents.

Texas? I live over a thousand miles away from that fine state . . . This fool can't even get my state remotely right.

That was a nice graduation pic St. Jackanapes found of you. The :dung: really brings out your color. I wonder where he found that.

Only a deluded bumpkin like you would even pretend to take this "information" seriously.

I am not the white trash college dropout who grew up in a trailer and pretends to be a heterosexual.

LOL. Riiiiggght. Whatever. Even "Pornonationalist" rolls off the tongue better than "racial communitarian." And what reason does anyone have to believe any of this?

Because all the hilarious beatings you took can still be found in the Usenet archives?

You are quoting someone associated with jackanapes.ws, a moronic "flame" site dedicated to defiling Jesus Christ.

He outed you too.

"Jackanapes" claims I live in Texas. I don't, not by a long shot. Let's face it, Fake; your source has as little credibility as your "racial communitarianism." Which is to say, less than none.

Not anymore. It should be noted that he claimed your real name was Brandon Orr and posted your real photo. That you went apeshit when he did so is easily verifiable. It is still all in the Usenet archives. You can lie about it all you want though just as you can lie and say you are not Jim Underwood.

He claims I am a Christian. I am not and never have been.

You have pretended to be one several times (amongst other things). How many identities did you have at this website alone?

He claims I have sent him death threats. If that were the case, I would have been prosecuted long ago.

. . . which can still be found online.

You're just stung that Carrigan dumped you and flushed you down.

I had been considering breaking up with Carrigan for close to a month before we actually did so. In fact, I was chatting with Robin on Yahoo IM about just that the morning it happened. I am sure she remembers it. I had composed a list of all the things that I did not like about our relationship and was complaining about it.

Now she's in a real relationship with me. I don't have anything to whine about. You do. Who can blame Carrigan for humiliating you before the world?

That's funny. The last time she called me she claimed she wasn't seeing you, had no plans to ever meet you in real life, and wasn't even talking to you anymore. That was the Sunday before last when I told her to never call my house again. And speaking of real relationships, I am not a pervert with a a sexual identity problem seeing an anonymous person who lives halfway across America.

Newsflash, Fraud: you're boring.

Boring enough, I suppose, to get with Carrigan before you did (i.e., while you wearing panties and whining about it as Jim Underwood). :/

Every time you whine about me, it's a reminder of your humiliation.

The only interest I have in you is keeping you the hell off our forum. It is also in your best interests to never even try to come back. I have better things to do than to send emails to parents. And so do you: sucking cock, having phone sex with gay men, playing around with feces, pretending to be a woman etc.


starr

2005-08-10 09:08 | User Profile

LOL. now this is some funny shit. I am going to feel really stupid for asking this, possibly, but what the hell is this:

[QUOTE] cunnilingus[/QUOTE] I guess I am deprived.


il ragno

2005-08-10 09:23 | User Profile

[QUOTE=starr]LOL. now this is some funny shit. I am going to feel really stupid for asking this, possibly, but what the hell is this:

[B]cunnilingus[/B]

I guess I am deprived.[/QUOTE]

I guess you are!

Fade, it's time to put Mr Raina on 'ignore'. Not for any other reason other than now that we all know what we know, he's become a crashing bore. I liked him a lot better as a hatchet-faced Jewish lesbian who posted Wrigley's Fun Facts about women serial killers; but now that he's just your garden-variety, run-of-the-mill degenerate gentile forever "setting the record straight" like a mealy-mouthed hack politician, he's about as provocative as a pair of brown shoes. You may not grasp this yet, but he probably did you a favor: better you found out Carrigan was bull-goose-looney [I]now,[/I] than later. Time to turn the page.


il ragno

2005-08-10 09:48 | User Profile

Orr, if you were a REAL pornonationalist....if you were half as confrontationally decadent as you've made your bones claiming to be, you'd admit you were gay even - [u]especially[/u] - if you're not.

That you screechingly rush to violently defend yourself from any such claim of lavenderness is ....how can I put it?....the mark of a true yokel. I mean, it's sad, how much of an adolescent, corn-fed boob you've turned out to be.

First you were Madame...then it turned out you were Wayland Flowers...but now you're just one more dummy pointing to your PENTHOUSE subscription-sticker as proof of your red-blooded he-mannitude. If you keep this up, it won't be long before Carrigan stops making soot-black goo-goo eyes at you.


starr

2005-08-10 09:53 | User Profile

[QUOTE] If you've never received cunnilingus, then yes, you probably guess right.[/QUOTE] LOL. I have never heard that term for it before.


John Dryden

2005-08-10 10:29 | User Profile

Perhaps the same "common sense" which says that I am gay because I am sexually aroused by women?

Of course. The gallery is always free to browse the ads you have set up at niteflirt.com for homosexual men. Those can be found under category "Men Home Alone" and subcategory "Gay." LOL I noticed you have lots of feedback over there, MasterBrandon "Definitely Not Gay" Orr. :p

"Real master that trains you to lick his ass and but. You learn o worship him being trained on phone and worshi him on cam. Want to get trained daily Sir" --cknew, 8/24/04

[url="http://www.niteflirt.com/memberpub/homepage.asp?user=brandongod&Subroutine=APUser&SubroutineParams=adagmt=y&ReturnURL=&CancelURL"]http://www.niteflirt.com/memberpub/homepage.asp?user=brandongod&Subroutine=APUser&SubroutineParams=adagmt=y&ReturnURL=&CancelURL[/url]=

How many men have you had sex with? I hear it has been quite a few.

Or that says I live in Texas when I live a thousand miles away?

I dealt with this above.

You have got to be kidding. Flames are a dime a dozen on VNNF.

Interesting. "Jim Underwood" just happened to appear out of the blue on VNN Forum to revive a thread that had been dead for over a month about me going to North Carolina for the first time before I even got home. The post was already on VNN Forum before I mentioned anything publically about the trip on The Phora. It was an unannounced spontaneous trip.

"This 'Phade' geek [u]is about to reappear[/u] on his second-rate web phorum . . ."

See, the context of the post is quite clear. Jim Underwood knew I was on my way back from NC before I got home (which is why he said I was "about to reappear." And there were only two people in the world who could have possibly known about that trip before I returned and said anything about it: You and Carrigan (because Carrigan told you about it and you got pissed off). Assuming Carrigan isn't Jim Underwood, then Jim Underwood could logically only be you. You are Jim Underwood. That you continue to lie about it when it is so pathetically obvious that it is you isn't really surprising though.

Really? Given your many boasts (real and fictitious), few folks in eyeshot did not know about your trip to North Carolina.

I did discuss the trip that I made to North Carolina after I got back home. But Jim Underwood's post at VNN Forum was made before I got back, as he himself indicated. In fact, Jim Underwood announced in the post that I was "about to reappear." From North Carolina, of course. I was dumbstruck by it at the time. How would Jim Underwood (someone I had never heard of) have known that? My parents didn't even know where I was that weekend. Because, of course, you are Jim Underwood and Carrigan had told you about the trip previously.

You even claimed on VNNF that you planned to move there.

Months afterward.

Hmm. I don't see any JU posts where he mentioned Carrigan's first name.

"You have such a beautiful first name as well." --[url=http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=211866&postcount=38]Jim Underwood[/url]

Who knew Carrigan's real first name in March? And who knew that she was bothered enough about it to conceal it? Certainly not me. Only one person on the internet knew that: you.

He only claimed to know her name, which anyone on VNN could do.

He mentioned it because he knew it bothered her. No random person would have done that.

Umm, any one of the many VNNers who checked out the Phora?

Nope. Carrigan did post a photo on The Phora a year or so ago. But it was a photo of her w/ blonde hair. I posted the photo that she sent me one time but removed it a few hours later after she asked me to. That was the only time that photo was ever posted on The Phora to my knowledge. And even that photo was posted months after March 7. I saw it for the first time in February. She sent it to me over Yahoo IM. And Jim Underwood had already seen it by March. That makes sense because you had seen it before the rest of us did.

There are loads of VNNers who bitch about women and wax not-so-poetic over the alleged superiority of "Nordics."

There is only one VNN'er with a scat fetish, who is obsessed with degrading people in toilets, who could have known I was in NC before I got back and said anything about it, who knew Carrigan's real first name and the fact that it bothered her, who would have seen that photo before March 7, who would have taken the time to post about all of it in a thread that had been dead for a month. That would be, of course, you.

I never admitted any such thing. Had I, it would have been a lie.

Sure you did. When I got back from NC, I noticed "Jim Underwood" had already posted about the trip on VNNF before I said anything about. So I sent you an IM asking if it was you. You were furious about it at the time and sent me an offline Yahoo message where you admitted it. It is too bad I didn't have message archive turned on at the time. But simple logic (to say nothing of experience and familiarity) is enough to demonstrate that you are a liar.

At any rate, scatological references are common on VNN.

There is only one person who posts at VNN, you, who is that fascinated by shoving someone's face in a toilet. Only you would have said something like that. And only you could have known I was in NC that weekend before I got back.

Even Linder tosses about terms like "suckpoop" with amazing regularity (no pun intended).

Linder didn't know who the hell Carrigan was at the time; still less would he have known that I was on my way back from North Carolina on March 7.

Well, I do have tons of lesbian porn on my computer. That does qualify as gay porn of a sort. However, a gay man would not get off sexually on lesbian porn. I do.

I was referring to the male on male porn you have on your computer.

Sure. While you're at it, I have sex with space aliens as well.

There is even a voice recording of you in your gay sex ad. Do you deny that you have spent years having phone sex with gay men; that you get off on doing so?

However, I have never claimed to be disgusted by cunnilingus, as you have.

I wonder what Vanessa would have to say about that? :/

In fact, I absolutely love performing it.

I believe "rimming" is the word you are looking for. The homosexual men who responded to your gay sex ad on niteflirt.com seem to have enjoyed it w/ you numerous occasions.

That fact cannot be reconciled with your claim that I am a gay man.

I am not claiming that you are a homosexual. You are one, well, a self-hating one at least. You admitted it on Usenet. That quote is in St. Jackanapes signature in the archives. What was it again? "I am a self-hating, socially maladjusted homo." And I have never met a straight guy who spends years enjoying having phone sex with homosexual men. But surely there are lots of . . . :p

On the other hand, that you are disgusted by the female body certainly does point to likely homosexuality on your part.

Say what you want about me. But . . .

1.) I haven't spent years having phone sex with homosexual men. 2.) I have never pretended to be a transsexual woman. 3.) I have never told anyone on the phone that I have had sex with men as you have done. 4.) My computer isn't full of gay porn. 5.) I don't sit around all day showing gay porn clips to online friends. 6.) I don't have multiple yahoo identities for the express purpose of communicating with homosexual men. 7.) I have never fantasized about being a lesbian. 8.) I don't run personal websites to attract homosexual men. 9.) I can think of better things to do w/ attractive women than defecating upon them.

No gay man would get off sexually on such activities, as I do.

Interesting. What kind of straight guy feels compelled to degrade attractive women with feces? Somewhere in the neighborhood of zero. You are definitely a fag w/ an axe to grind against women. Why? Because attractive women take away the men you are attracted to.

I'm sexually interested in women, which is why I'm with Carrigan.

I saw your website and I am pretty sure I know why you are "with Carrigan."

"Aside from the scat-loving do-it-all-for-fun women, there are also a few prim-and-proper, often religious, women we like to corrupt. One of my girlfriends helped come up with this idea: take an innocent, naive, scared little lady and turn her into a scat slut, with plenty of fun humiliation along the way. So we’re shaping up to make two main kinds of movies: real toilet sluts having fun, and innocent ladies being used and corrupted. Both kinds are always documentaries, and both kinds are ing hot."

[url="http://web.archive.org/web/20030810054206/www.toilet-slut.com/main.htm"]http://web.archive.org/web/20030810054206/www.toilet-slut.com/main.htm[/url]

^^ In the end, I don't think she will go for that.

You know, the woman who points out that you told her that cunnilingus disgusts you.

I never told Vanessa that I was disgusted by cunnilingus. :/

What could be more 'gay male' than that?

Umm . . . lots of straight guys would rather do other things than cunnilingus. As for your question, I would say that admitting to having homosexual intercourse w/ other men (remember that, lil'Brannie) is a lot more "gay male" than not particularly enjoying eating out someone.

Yes, but there are some things I've never said under any identity.

You have said several things as Jim Underwood. It is logically impossibile that Jim Underwood is anyone but you.

For example, I've never said that the female body is disgusting. You have.

I don't recall ever saying that.

It doesn't even take 20/20 vision to see that you fit the profile of a gay male, and that I do not. ROFL. Want to take a straw poll, "masterbrandon?" :p


John Dryden

2005-08-10 10:44 | User Profile

Cunnilingus? That would be what FagTheBitcher derisively refers to as "carpet munching," which he has called disgusting.

That is not something I do with just anyone.

(I wonder what Fag would call cunnilingus on a woman who is clean-shaven "down there"? Linoleum mopping?) It is something I love to do.

You mean a girl like Vanessa, right? And please, don't recount for us all the long sweaty nights you have had staying up late talking about oral sex with gay men. The two activities are in no way analagous.

Say what you will about the practice, but there's nothing "gay male" about it.

I don't believe I ever claimed that cunnilingus was in anyway homosexual. But feel free to point out where I ever made that argument.

Which is probably why Fade/Brad/Hunter is so disgusted by it, as he admitted to Carrigan.

See above.


albion

2005-08-10 11:10 | User Profile

VNN's Pet Rat, The sex education class is here: --> [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunnilingus#Techniques"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunnilingus#Techniques[/url]

(too bad there isn't a smiley for such things :shocking: )


John Dryden

2005-08-10 11:12 | User Profile

Unlike you, Brad/Fade/Hunter, I'm not hung up about homosexuality.

I don't have a problem with homosexuals. Most of them are good people and don't get off on the disgusting stuff that you do. But I am not the homosexual here claiming to be a heterosexual. It seems to me that you are the one here that has a problem with homosexuality. I think il ragno is getting that impression as well. Why won't you just come clean and admit you have had sex with other men? You have admitted it before. Why can't you confess to it publically?

Unlike you, I'm not some sort of prude who wants dildos and pornography banned.

LMAO. So I am a prude now? I think Vanessa would beg to differ. She isn't exactly the most prudish girl, you know.

If I wanted sex with men, I'd be doing it.

Well, erhm, you are doing it. In fact, "masterbrandon" has several certitified (no joke, I am dead serious) gay male sex slaves right now at this very moment. We posted links to those websites just the other day on The Phora. You didn't see them?

Thing is, I'm sexually turned on by women.

I don't believe that for a second.

That's why I'm with Carrigan.

She has told me otherwise. And I told her never to call me again.

There are also reasons why you are not with Carrigan.

Yes. That would make sense. I am with someone else, after all. In fact, I gave Carrigan my girlfriend's cell phone number the other day when she called. Two people, actually. But that is impossible for a "prude" like me, right? :p

The fact that you'd rather masturbate to Churchill biographies than Penthouse is probably one of these.

I don't masturbate to Churchill biographies (or Penthouse, for that matter). That is one of the cool things about having a girlfriend who actually exists in real life (as opposed to having phone sex with gay men in other countries).

Ahem. The fact that I've jerked off to Penthouse numerous times disqualifies me from the "gay male" label.

ROFL. This statement alone reeks of homosexuality. No straight guy cites "jerking off to Penthouse" as proof of his heterosexuality. You are so obviously gay, man. Why don't you just admit to it?

Ditto the fact that I get off sexually on degrading bimbos.

Lots of homosexual men do. They hate attractive women because they are with the attractive guys you would rather be with yourself.

Even the mere thought of Carrigan abusing a blonde bimbo gets me hard.

Umm . . . so does human feces. LOL I don't know how I would take that if I were a girl.

This would not be the case if I were a gay male.

If you spend years having phone sex with gay men, then you might be a homosexual. :/

If I were gay, I wouldn't be in a romantic relationship with Carrigan either.

Carrigan told me the other day that she is not in a romantic relationship with you. In fact, she told me she wasn't even talking to you.

What would be the point?

I personally think it is a game. You go around trolling for "innocent, barely legal, naive" young girls to corrupt and degrade. Hell. You said so yourself on your own website. That is why you came right out and said what you really thought about her when we got together. Now you deny being Jim Underwood although it is so obvious it is you.

It's not like "hey, I'm sexually turned on by degrading and abusing women... but at least I'm not gay!" is going to score me any points with the "morally upright."

You are definitely gay.

I'm gay only in the sense that I'm happy. In all likelihood, that's the only sense in which you are not gay.

LOL whatever, "MasterBrandon."

That's why I'm with Carrigan and you are not.

As I pointed out earlier, Carrigan told me the Sunday before last that she doesn't even talk to you anymore.

Now excuse me, FagtheBitcher (hey, gotta give Lindy credit where itz due), but Carrigan and I have an actual life to live together.

LMAO. Okay.

Think about that next time you jerk off to a bust of FDR rather than the bust of, well, a woman.

I have never jerked off thinking about a man before. But I think we both know someone who has.


John Dryden

2005-08-10 11:20 | User Profile

[QUOTE=il ragno]That you screechingly rush to violently defend yourself from any such claim of lavenderness is ....how can I put it?....the mark of a true yokel. I mean, it's sad, how much of an adolescent, corn-fed boob you've turned out to be. First you were Madame...then it turned out you were Wayland Flowers...but now you're just one more dummy pointing to your PENTHOUSE subscription-sticker as proof of your red-blooded he-mannitude. If you keep this up, it won't be long before Carrigan stops making soot-black goo-goo eyes at you.[/QUOTE]LMFAO


Jaguar

2005-08-10 12:37 | User Profile

Goodtimes...very interesting, keep it up.

So, why is this forum upside down? Can I change that somehow, because I still can't access my profile page.


Petr

2005-08-10 12:39 | User Profile

xxxgt is "Raina" - moderators, please kick him out of here.

Petr


Sertorius

2005-08-10 13:04 | User Profile

You people find some other place to post this garbage. There are plenty of forums that cater to pornographic talk. I see anymore of this trash I'll dump this thread.


Bardamu

2005-08-10 13:22 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Faust]What is with that forum anyway? :wacko:

And why do they keep changing the URL?[/QUOTE]

Somehow the SPLC got hold of the original URL and never let go, or some such.


John Dryden

2005-08-14 14:42 | User Profile

It was stolen by "Scooby" last January. All the contact info was changed.


tricknologist

2005-08-15 02:16 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Jaguar]Goodtimes...very interesting, keep it up.

So, why is this forum upside down? Can I change that somehow, because I still can't access my profile page.[/QUOTE] I hear you, having to read threads backwards is annoying. I didn't have this problem as a guest, only after I registered.


Texas Dissident

2005-08-15 03:26 | User Profile

[QUOTE=tricknologist]I hear you, having to read threads backwards is annoying. I didn't have this problem as a guest, only after I registered.[/QUOTE]

Is it fixed for you now?


King_Tiger

2005-08-15 16:29 | User Profile

[QUOTE=John Dryden]It kept getting hacked by an antifascist internet troll who goes by the name of "Scobby." The same guy has taken down blutundboden.com and The Nordish Portal several times.[/QUOTE]OMG has everyone gone retarted all of a sudden??? :rolleyes:

Sieben, on MSF: "Raina doesn't have the equiptment to perpetrate the hack.... I talk to her all the time on the phone..."

Considering that we now know "Raina" doesn't exist, how could Sieben and Scooby have talked to her? "They" were either accomplices of Orr, or (no pun intended), both accounts were just Orr himself. Considering this guy's complete dearth of allies on the net, I'd bet on the latter.


starr

2005-08-18 03:04 | User Profile

Wasn't the Phora supposed to be up by now?


King_Tiger

2005-08-18 03:41 | User Profile

Right after it went down I sent an e-mail to niccolo asking him when he'd have it back... I expected it to be back up before he'd be able to reply (if he'd even bother) but I just checked my inbox and found this short reply from him, sent early Tuesday morning:

It's outta my hands.

Strange, eh?

 Has anyone inquired further?

Fenrir

2005-08-18 04:45 | User Profile

Yes, but there was no response. Strange, indeed.


Intrepid

2005-08-18 04:59 | User Profile

[QUOTE=King_Tiger]Right after it went down I sent an e-mail to niccolo asking him when he'd have it back... I expected it to be back up before he'd be able to reply (if he'd even bother) but I just checked my inbox and found this short reply from him, sent early Tuesday morning:

 Strange, eh?

   Has anyone inquired further?[/QUOTE]  Niccolo seems like a standup guy. I'm sure if it can be rectified, he'll do it.

il ragno

2005-08-18 14:30 | User Profile

Why in God's name is Tricknologist suspended? The guy's 100% legit.


John Dryden

2005-08-18 21:20 | User Profile

Right now I am waiting on Niccolo and Loki. We are ready to go.

[url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=258315&postcount=12"]http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=258315&postcount=12[/url] "Just got back home. The problem that has been holding us up for over a month now has finally been resolved."


Aulë

2005-08-20 20:54 | User Profile

The new board is finally up. :)

[url=http://www.speakeasy.invisionzone.com/index.php?&&CODE=autologin&fromreg=1]The Speakeasy[/url]


il ragno

2005-08-20 23:11 | User Profile

Swell. Have a good time, then.


robinder

2005-08-21 10:00 | User Profile

You'll be staying away from this one?


il ragno

2005-08-21 10:37 | User Profile

I don't much care for being jacked off. That Niccolo decided to switch to an Invision board doesn't matter, but he [U]deliberately lied [/U] by stating he was going to be restoring the old archives, and that the board would be shut for "a few hours". I didn't think those archives could be appended in so short a time, but I figured the PiE would be back up in a week or so.

Then we found out, through you, that that was just a bullshit story he told for his own divertissement.

[QUOTE]He never explained this because he thought the potential for outlandish theories about what happened and the amusement derived from them outweighed the benefits of making an announcement.[/QUOTE]

So now I look at this new board and I see none of the prior posts (both PiE and the old Phora) added. Starting from scratch [I]again[/I], with Biggles and Johnson and warring Serbs/Slavs and the obligatory 'what are you listening to?' and 'babes' threads, and the aggregate mental age of the contributors dropping [I]another [/I] year or two. This is where I came [I]in[/I], y'know?

Look: I [I]liked [/I] the Phora; the back-and-forth of the membership, the lack of both an ideological or religious litmus test - and even, to some extent, the juvenilia. It was fun. But let's be honest: PiE was a pale shadow of the first Phora overall, and both of them suffered from, ahh, let's call it [I]mercurial management[/I].

The original Phora [I]was [/I] hacked a couple of times, but it was [I]also [/I] shut down a time or two by Fade whenever he'd get in a pissy mood - and Niccolo's "I'll give em all some bs, cross my fingers, and hope the fallout is at least amusing" tactic is just bush: there's no other word for it. I took a glance at this new [I]new [/I] edition tonight, and it just seems like Liberty Forum Lite anyway. I.e., safely bypassed altogether.

And every time these boards go down the same thing happens: a percentage of the membership drifts away, never to return. The fact that the archives keep getting tossed over the side like so much useless ballast just clinches it for me. We [B]all [/B] know it's gonna happen again - another hack, another 'girlfriend crisis', another bout of management 'amusing itself' with matching shitcanned archive - so why expend the energy?

If even [B]Jaybird [/B] can find better ways to occupy his time, what does that tell you?


Petr

2005-08-21 11:05 | User Profile

[FONT=Arial][COLOR=Blue][B][I] - "another bout of management 'amusing itself' with matching shitcanned archive" [/I] [/B] [/COLOR] [/FONT]

Do you have any concrete proof on the accusation that Phora archives have been [I]intentionally[/I] deleted?

(I'm also quite peeved that the archives are still missing, btw)

Petr


il ragno

2005-08-21 11:29 | User Profile

Do you have any concrete proof on the accusation that Phora archives have been intentionally deleted?

What [B]is[/B] it with you anyway, Mr District Attorney?

He said the PiE would be down for a few hours while the old archives were restored. It's three weeks later, and they're not there. Not even the PiE archives are there.

Do [B]you [/B] have any concrete proof I said they were [U]intentionally [/U] deleted, you psalm-singing old maid? What am I, a mind-reader? How the hell do I know what anyone's 'intent' is? The man said they were being added even as he posted the 'back in a few hours' message; well, they're [I]not [/I] there. Whatever the 'intent' was doesn't concern me.

Robin's already admitted the whole 'refurbishing' business was a con from the beginning: end of story, far as I'm concerned. Maybe the archives are lost. Maybe they're not. Who knows? It's plainly evident that [I]whoever's [/I] running the site either can't or won't keep the edifice standing upright or protect it from crashing. Enough is enough already.


Petr

2005-08-21 11:41 | User Profile

[FONT=Arial][COLOR=Purple][B][I] - "Do you have any concrete proof I said they were intentionally deleted, you -psalm-singing old maid?" [/I] [/B] [/COLOR] [/FONT]

Don't get smart with me, old boy. You have made that accusation before against Fade, even if not directly now.

Petr


il ragno

2005-08-21 11:47 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Petr][FONT=Arial][COLOR=Purple][B][I] - "Do you have any concrete proof I said they were intentionally deleted, you -psalm-singing old maid?" [/I] [/B] [/COLOR] [/FONT]

Don't get smart with me, old boy. You have made that accusation before against Fade, even if not directly now.

Petr[/QUOTE]

Show me the proof.


robinder

2005-08-21 11:52 | User Profile

There is misunderstanding here, I better clear this up.

The archives were going to be added, but that decided against because Nic did not want to keep the "PiE" software. It was never a lie.

There are going to be 2 boards, this one Aule linked, and another yet to come, which will be the proper new phora.


il ragno

2005-08-21 12:02 | User Profile

Okay.


robinder

2005-08-21 12:05 | User Profile

Niccolo says this Speakeasy is meant to cater to LF members, apparently that forum (LF) is scheduled to end soon. Of course, there is going to be overlapping membership and anyone is free to join.


il ragno

2005-08-21 12:15 | User Profile

Again, I'm not a mindreader. When Fade says "Right now I am waiting on Niccolo and Loki. We are ready to go", it sure didn't sound as though the plan was two boards.

It does explain the LFness of the Speakeasy, though.


madrussian

2005-08-21 15:14 | User Profile

Spider, you have to use a messenger and revolve in that elite chat circle to know the latest news and gossip. Don't ever think Nic or Fade assign any more value to their forums as being for their entertainment first and foremost. And you as a valuable contributor as long as you add to that entertainment :beer:


robinder

2005-08-21 18:30 | User Profile

[QUOTE]Again, I'm not a mindreader. When Fade says "Right now I am waiting on Niccolo and Loki. We are ready to go", it sure didn't sound as though the plan was two boards. [/QUOTE]
I don't know if Fade or anyone else is involved, I think it is his own project.

   [QUOTE]It does explain the LFness of the Speakeasy, though.[/QUOTE]

Well, nice for them that they'll have a place to go. It really isn't for me, either. The membership is mostly LF posters, and a number of MSF types.


Fenrir

2005-08-21 21:51 | User Profile

Looked at it, not too pleased. I'd level the same criticism as Ragno, but it's good to hear there will be another phora and this is not it. That is, if it actually happens within my lifetime. The longer the wait, the fewer users that will return.

The word "phora" should be in the URL.

The problem is that posters are being dissipated by all of this crap. Only the true diehards will keep coming back assuming they're not too irritated by the shenanigans. Just imagine, how much better do you think the phora would be if not for the constant flux, which deletes the archives, the members list, and the URL? I'll return when there's a proper phora, preferably with the old posts made available again. It's no accident that I do not post on LF.


Fenrir

2005-08-21 22:06 | User Profile

I forgot to ask, is there a topic on this speakeasy in which Niccolo addresses that the archives are still missing, the new forum is more attractive to members of LF, and that he's basically taken the phora down without replacing it? Something about a real phora? I didn't see such a topic, but if there is one, please show it to me.


starr

2005-08-21 22:10 | User Profile

[QUOTE] Originally posted by Fade the Butcher A temporary phpBB forum has been set up. I just changed the nameservers so it will take a day or two for the old url ([url="http://www.phora.org/"][color=#cc0000]www.phora.org[/color][/url]) to work again. Whenever I get in touch with Loki we will reinstall the vBulletin. [/QUOTE][url="http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=259558#post259558"]www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=259558#post259558[/url]


Fenrir

2005-08-21 22:24 | User Profile

That was useful. Thanks.