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2005-07-21 18:31 | User Profile
Who smells "Jew" here? When does the Koran in the rented van get 'discovered'?
Blasts Rock London Subway Stations, Bus Explosions Come Two Weeks After Suicide Bombings By ROBERT BARR, AP
LONDON (July 21) - Explosions struck the London Underground and a bus at midday Thursday in a chilling but far less bloody replay of the suicide bombings that killed 56 people two weeks ago.
Only one person was reported injured in the nearly simultaneous lunch-hour blasts, police said, but they shocked and disrupted the capital and were hauntingly similar to the July 7 bombings by four attackers.
Police Commissioner Ian Blair said forensic evidence from Thursday's bombings could provide a ''significant break'' in the latest attacks.
''Clearly the intention must have been to kill,'' Ian Blair told a news conference. ''You don't do this with any other intention.''
He also said it was not clear if the two sets of attacks were connected.
Panicked and screaming commuters fled the three affected Underground stations, sometimes leaving behind their shoes. Firefighters and police with bomb-sniffing dogs sealed off nearby city blocks and evacuated rows of restaurants, pubs and offices.
Prime Minister Tony Blair appealed for calm.
''We can't minimize incidents such as this,'' he said at a joint news conference with the Australian prime minister at No. 10 Downing St. ''They're done to scare people, to frighten them and make them worried.''
He held an emergency Cabinet meeting afterward but said no decisions ''of a policy nature'' were made.
Ian Blair called the blasts ''a very serious incident.''
''We know that we have four explosions or attempts of explosions, and it is still pretty unclear as to what has happened,'' he said outside Scotland Yard.
''At the moment the casualty numbers appear to be very low ... the bombs appear to be smaller'' than those detonated July 7, he said. He added later that not all the bombs went off.
An armed police unit entered University College hospital shortly after an injured person was carried in, Britain's Press Association reported. The attacks, which targeted trains near the Warren Street, Oval and Shepherd's Bush stations, did not shut down the subway system, only three of its lines. The double-decker bus had its windows blown out on Hackney Road in east London.
Witnesses told The Associated Press they did not hear a bang but smelled something similar to an electrical fire at the Warren Street station.
Police in chemical protection suits were at the Warren Street station, but no chemical agents were found.
Stagecoach, the company which operates the stricken bus, said the driver heard a bang and went upstairs, where he found the windows blown out. The company said the bus was structurally intact and there were no injuries.
The incidents paralleled the July 7 blasts, which involved explosions at three Underground stations simultaneously starting at 8:51 a.m., followed quickly by a bomb going off on a bus. Those bombings, during the morning rush hour, also occurred in the center of London, hitting the Underground from various directions.
Thursday's incidents, however, were more spread out.
Emergency teams were sent to all three stations after the incidents, which began at 12:38 p.m.
''People were panicking. But very fortunately the train was only 15 seconds from the station,'' witness Ivan McCracken told Sky news.
McCracken said another passenger at Warren Street told him he saw a backpack explode. The July 7 bombs were carried in backpacks, police said.
McCracken said he smelled smoke, and people were panicking and coming into his carriage. He said he spoke to an Italian man who was comforting a woman after the evacuation.
''He said that a man was carrying a rucksack and the rucksack suddenly exploded. It was a minor explosion but enough to blow open the rucksack,'' McCracken said. ''The man then made an exclamation as if something had gone wrong. At that point everyone rushed from the carriage.''
Losiane Mohellavi, 35, who was evacuated at Warren Street, said, ''I was in the carriage and we smelled smoke - it was like something was burning. Everyone was panicked and people were screaming. We had to pull the alarm. I am still shaking.''
The U.S. Embassy was closed to visitors about two hours after the blasts as a precaution, but embassy staff continued working, said spokeswoman Susan Domowitz.
The explosions came as Pakistani intelligence officials said authorities are seeking the former aide of a radical cleric in Britain in connection with the July 7 bombings.
The officials said British investigators asked Pakistani authorities to search for Haroon Rashid Aswat, who reportedly had been in close contact with the suicide bombers just before the July 7 attacks.
Aswat, 31, was of Indian origin and may not be in Pakistan, according to two intelligence officials in Islamabad and one in Lahore, all speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to talk to the media and because of the sensitivity of the investigation.
Aswat reportedly was once an associate of Abu Hamza al-Masri, the radical imam who is awaiting trial in Britain on charges of incitement to murder. Al-Masri also is wanted in the United States on charges of trying to establish a terrorist training camp in Bly, Ore.; involvement in hostage-taking in Yemen; and funding terror training in Afghanistan.
Quoting unidentified intelligence sources, The Times of London said Aswat visited the hometowns of all four London bombers and selected their targets. It also reported there had been up to 20 phone calls between Aswat and two of the bombers in the days before the attacks.
Aswat's relatives in Batley, near the northern English town of Leeds, which was home to two of the July 7 suicide bombers, said they had not heard from him for many years.
''He has not lived at this house and we have not had contact with him for many years,'' said his father, Rashid, who asked for his family to be left in peace. ''There is no story that we can provide.''
Authorities are investigating whether the London bombing suspects, three of whom were of Pakistani origin and traveled to Pakistan last year, received training or other assistance from militants in that country.
One of the July 7 bombers, Shahzad Tanweer, 22, is suspected of visiting a madrassa linked with militants in Lahore which has become a focus of the inquiry.
According to a report in a Pakistani newspaper, Tanweer revered Osama bin Laden. The English-language Dawn newspaper said Tanweer visited relatives in November in a farming village near Faisalabad in eastern Pakistan. During his stay, he was visited by another bombing suspect, Mohammed Sidique Khan, 30, Tanweer's uncle told the newspaper.
Pakistan has pledged to curb religious extremism amid international concerns that Islamic schools, or madrassas, are promoting extremism. Associated Press reporters Thin Lei Win and Kate Bouey in London and Christopher Torchia in Islamabad, Pakistan, contributed to this report.
07-21-05 13:22EDT
Copyright 2005 The Associated Press.
2005-07-21 19:10 | User Profile
I also started a thread here: [url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19240[/url]
The foolishness of the Western puppets, Bush, Blair and Howard, is going to be repaid on us hapless citizens who are pretty much powerless to change our respective governments' policies. Protests won't do anything. We're doomed when leaders are allowed say things like this:
[QUOTE]Prime Minister Tony Blair appealed for calm.
''We can't minimize incidents such as this,'' he said at a joint news conference with the Australian prime minister at No. 10 Downing St. ''They're done to scare people, to frighten them and make them worried.''[/QUOTE]
Hey Poodle Blair, you should've thought about that when you endorsed "Shock and Awe" on innocent Iraqi citizens, you bloody fool. Bullocks! I bet the Iraqi people were "scared, frightened and worried" about 2 ton bombs falling on their heads. Should they have remained "calm"?
2005-07-23 16:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]I also started a thread here: [url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19240[/url]
The foolishness of the Western puppets, Bush, Blair and Howard, is going to be repaid on us hapless citizens who are pretty much powerless to change our respective governments' policies. Protests won't do anything. We're doomed when leaders are allowed say things like this:
Hey Poodle Blair, you should've thought about that when you endorsed "Shock and Awe" on innocent Iraqi citizens, you bloody fool. Bullocks! I bet the Iraqi people were "scared, frightened and worried" about 2 ton bombs falling on their heads. Should they have remained "calm"?[/QUOTE]
Blair seems to be little more than an appeaser in the mold of Chamberlain.
He has no backbone. If Britain is going to survive, then Blair needs to show some fortitude. Put a clamp on the country and eliminate the scoundrels before it's too late.
Read below, and take it seriously. They do.
washingtonpost.com Attacks on UK will continue, radical cleric says
By Gideon Long Reuters Friday, July 22, 2005; 10:57 AM
LONDON (Reuters) - Militant Islamists will continue to attack Britain until the government pulls its troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, one of the country's most outspoken Islamic clerics said on Friday.
Speaking 15 days after bombers killed over 50 people in London and a day after a series of failed attacks on the city's transport network, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed said the British capital should expect more violence.
"What happened yesterday confirmed that as long as the cause and the root problem is still there ... we will see the same effect we saw on July 7," Bakri said.
"If the cause is still there the effect will happen again and again," he said, adding he had no information about future attacks or contacts with people planning to carry out attacks.
Bakri, a Syrian-born cleric who has been vilified in Britain since 2001 when he praised the September 11 hijackers, said he did not believe the bombings and attempted attacks on London were carried out by British Muslims.
He condemned the killing of all innocent civilians but described attacks on British and U.S. troops in Muslim countries as "pro-life" and justified.
In an interview with Reuters, Bakri described Osama bin Laden, leader of the radical Islamist network al Qaeda, as "a sincere man who fights against evil forces."
[B]Bakri said he would like Britain to become an Islamic state [/B] but feared he would be deported before his dream was realized.
[B]"I would like to see the Islamic flag fly, not only over number 10 Downing Street, but over the whole world," he said.[/B] MESSAGE OF PEACE ... MESSAGE OF WAR
A hate figure for the British tabloid press, the bearded and bespectacled Bakri said Islam contained "a message of peace for those who want to live with the Muslims in peace."
"But Islam is a message of war for those who declare war against Muslims," he said.
"I condemn any killing and any bombing against any innocent people in Britain or abroad, but I expect the British people to condemn the killing of Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan."
However, asked about Islamist attacks on British and U.S. troops and on Israelis, he said: "If violence is pro-life I don't condemn it."
Britain has around 1,100 troops in Afghanistan and 8,500 in Iraq. Prime Minister Tony Blair supported the United States in its respective invasions of both countries in 2001 and 2003.
Bakri, a 46-year-old father of six, was born in Syria and lived in Lebanon and Saudi Arabia. When the Saudi government expelled him in 1985 he came to London.
Nicknamed "The Tottenham Ayatollah" after the area of north London in which he lives, he has infuriated many Britons with his firebrand speeches and refusal to condemn suicide bombings.
He founded the British branch of Hizb ut-Tahrir, which describes itself as a non-violent political party dedicated to creating an Islamic caliphate centered on the Middle East.
But he split from the group in 1996 and set up al Muhajiroun, which won notoriety in 2001 for celebrating the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon which killed nearly 3,000 people.
Bakri has Syrian and Lebanese citizenship and says he thinks the British government might deport him to one of those two countries in the wake of this month's bombings.
"But I think that would be political suicide for the British government if they started to deport and imprison all extremists and radicals," he said.
"Because if, God forbid, something happened again, they would have
2005-07-24 01:46 | User Profile
I post this FWIW.
If true, it needs publicity:
London Underground Bombing 'Exercises'
Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack
Sound familiar? It should if you read Crossing the Rubicon on 9-11:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm
([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm[/url])
London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack
Culpability cover scenario echoes 9/11 wargames
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet | July 9 2005
([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/index.html[/url])
A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an
exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground
being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on
the morning of July 7th.
On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host
interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants
([url]http://www.visorconsultants.com/index.html[/url]), which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm.
Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with
the Anti Terrorist Branch.
Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings
were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which
drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at
the exact same times, as happened in real life.
The transcript is as follows.
POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise
for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs
going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning,
so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.
HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how
you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?
POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned
this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name
but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis
managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a
pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the
correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.
Click here ([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/090705exercise_clip_2.mp3[/url])
for a clip of this dialogue. Click here
([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/090705exercise_clip.mp3[/url]) for a longer clip where the comments can be heard in
their full context.
The fact that the exercise mirrored the exact locations and times of the
bombings is light years beyond a coincidence. Power said the drill focused
around 'simultaneous bombings'. At first the bombings were thought to have been
spread over an hour, but the BBC reports ([url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4666591.stm[/url]) just today that the bombings were in fact simultaneous.
Mr. Power (pictured above) and Visor Consultants need not have been 'in on
the bombing' or anything of that nature for this to be of importance. The
British government or one of their private company offshoots could have hired
Visor to run the exercise for a number of purposes.
The exercise fulfils several different goals. It acts as a cover for the
small compartamentalized government terrorists to carry out their operation
without the larger security services becoming aware of what they're doing, and,
more importantly, if they get caught during the attack or after with any
incriminating evidence they can just claim that they were just taking part in the exercise.
This is precisely what happened on the morning of 9/11/2001. The CIA was
conducting drills_ ([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/080904wargamescover.htm[/url]) of flying hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning.
It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in
operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11. This meant that
NORAD radar screens showed as many as 22 hijacked airliners at the same time.
NORAD had been briefed that this was part of the exercise drill and therefore
normal reactive procedure was forestalled and delayed.
The large numbers of 'blips' on NORAD screens that displayed both real and
'drill' hijacked planes explain why confused press reports emerged hours after
the attack stating that up to eight planes had been hijacked.
The Anglo-American establishment that controls the military-industrial
complex of the West has been caught over a hundred times carrying out bombings and other terrorist attacks around the world to further their corporate aims and to blame their enemies.
The US government has been caught planning to carry out attacks and carrying
out attacks. The British government has been caught red-handed as well.
Members of Vladimir Putin's FSB were caught planting bombs
([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html#fsb[/url]) in a Russian apartment building in 1999 by the Moscow
police.
This is not speculation. Kermit Roosevelt admitted on NPR radio that in 1953
the CIA and British intelligence carried out a wave of _bombings and
shootings in Iran_ ([url]http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/history/2000/0416ciairan.htm[/url]) .
He then went on to brag about how they subsequently blamed the bombings on
Iran's President, Mossadegh. Do you understand, these people brag about what
they do 40 years later?
The London bombings have the same signature as the Madrild bombings of 3/11.
Both of these bombings are almost indistinguishable from the Bolognia
bombing in 1980 that killed over 80 people.
The bombing in Bolognia was part of a CIA operation code named_Gladio_
([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/290205swordplay.htm[/url]), where
the US government would pay right-wing terrorists to carry out bombings to be
blamed on leftists in Europe. All of this was blown wide open when two of the
Bolognia bombers were convited in an Italian court, forcing them to spill
their guts admitting that they were neo-fascists contracted by the CIA.
Operation Gladio
([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/290205swordplay.htm[/url]) documents have since been declassified.
The London terror alert level was lowered
([url]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1685551,00.html[/url]) before the bombings took place. This gave
the purputrators extra cover to plan and execute the attack without having to
evade the most stringent security.
In any crime you look at history and motive, The British government has been
caught in multiple examples of carrying out bombings in London which were
then blamed on the IRA. They even had one of their own
([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_alert_mi5terror_4.html[/url]) MI5 agents wihin the Omagh bomb squad.
Click here ([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_mi5terror.html[/url]) for an
archive of this evidence.
The wider agenda will become clearer when Blair firmly points the finger at
the selected patsies designated to take the fall. But for the moment he's
happy to grandstand as the courageous leader who immedately returned to London
to take control of the chaos.
BBC polls that were showing 80 per cent plus opposed the ID card
([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/300605pollshows.htm[/url]) will now likely flip back in the opposite direction. Support for the European Union and
increased globalization through the G8 will rise. Who stands to gain from all this?
Who has the motive?
From Putin blowing up his own apartment buildings
([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html#fsb[/url]) to Israel being behind Hamas
([url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_watson_012703_hamas.html[/url]) , the evidence is consistently clear that large scale terrorism is always state sponsored.
The Madrid train bombing is another example. The bombers were found to be
police informants ([url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3670627.stm[/url]) with
close links to the Spanish security services
([url]http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/june2004/062104madridbombers.htm[/url]) . They had access to the most secure areas of the Madrid train system. The Spanish government initially tried to blame the Basque group ETA for the blast in the hope that the people would rally behind the government and get them re-elected. After ETA denied involvement and the people started saying the government was involved, the Spanish government had to blame Al-Qaeda and kill some patsies by claiming they blew themselves up during a raid.
The London Underground exercises were used as the fallback cover to carry
out the attack. This is the biggest smoking gun yet pointing directly to the
most secretive levels of the British establishment itself being behind the
attack.
More on this story as and when it develops.
2005-07-25 03:55 | User Profile
8 Days and a Fortnight in July, two years apart.
What a difference 730 days make.
The Definitive Narrative of What Has Happened, with cosmological links
Frank Richââ¬â¢s excellent analytical work in ââ¬ÅEight Days in Julyââ¬Â (NY Times online, 07/24) enables us to link a sequence of events in the 7/6 ââ¬â 7/14 period of that month in ââ¬â¢03 ââ¬â the first dating J.C Wilsonââ¬â¢s NYTimes piece discrediting them, the second the publication of R. Novakââ¬â¢s column discrediting him ââ¬â to the sequence of events 7/7 -7/21, ââ¬Ë05. Novakââ¬â¢s piece discredited Wilsonââ¬â¢s debunking of the claim Iraq sought uranium from Niger through the infamous, and likely illegal, leaking of his wifeââ¬â¢s name and CIA status, ââ¬Åimplying that the Niger trip was a nepotistic side show.ââ¬Â (ââ¬ÅFor Bush, Impact of Leak Case Is Uncertainââ¬Â, NYTimes 7/24 A20, R.W. Stevenson).
During the earlier 8 day interval, the administration pared references to Saddam Husseinââ¬â¢s Weapons of Mass Destruction, to ââ¬ÅWMD programsââ¬Â, later to ââ¬ÅWMD program activitiesââ¬Â in order to square claim to fact, Rich points out. CIA director George Tenet issues a statement taking the fall for the 16 condemning words, admitting they were not true (attributing seeking uranium by Iraq from Niger). Though it is his agency that initiated the complaint about Novakââ¬â¢s article leak, forwarded to Alberto Gonzales, who kept it to himself for 12 hours before sending it on to Attorney General Ashcroft. Also in this time frame, a State Department memo mentioning Valerie Plame and marking her ââ¬ÅSââ¬Â, secret, was delivered aboard Air Force One to Colin Powell, accompanying the President, C. Rice, Rove and other dignitaries on a trip to Africa. ââ¬ÅMission Accomplishedââ¬Â had just been announced 10 days prior, now this matter of Wilsonââ¬â¢s undermining their credibility was apparently in the process of being taken care of, perhaps in silence, by winks, nods, twitches and shrugs. Things are looking OK, overall. Transparency is just around the cornerââ¬Â¦
But now, this July. The 14 days bookended by 7/7 ââ¬â 7/21 could be titled ââ¬ÅLONDONââ¬â¢S FORTNIGHT OF TERRORââ¬Â: 7/7 -- subway-bus explosions; 7/21 ââ¬â
the ââ¬Ëcopycatââ¬â¢ explosion of the detonation devices only, in a similar north-south lines as if to cross or square an area.
The numbers are a psychosemiotic forensic clue. If these explosions were perpetrated in order to become ingredient in group-process communications, as is usually attributed to terrorist planners, the numbers, among other symbolic tokens, provide a window to what is going on in the group-unconscious.
When number signs become tokens, dates for timelines can connect geometry (triads, squares, circles), astronomy, Transportation routes become Da Vinci code puzzle glyphs. The ââ¬Ëpowerââ¬â¢ number, the number of powers, with power, is unmistably ââ¬Å7ââ¬Â. The simple doubling of repetitions, marking 7/7, 7/14, 7/21 (22), 7/28 (29), which in turn mark the four phases of the moon and the four 7-day week cycle, define the standard ââ¬ÅMonthââ¬Â. This was the basis of the earliest calendar divisions, embedded in old, pre-dynastic Egyptian calculations, pre-Babylonian Sumerian/Hebrew calendar at Kish (circa 5,770 years ago), keeping roughly regular with the solar year of 365 days by adding a 29th day to the 13 x 28 = 364 days of moon cycles. The superior 360 + 5 ââ¬Åturnoverââ¬Â days was installed in Mardukââ¬â¢s Babylon and Dynastic Egypt, with three 10-day ââ¬Ådecanââ¬Â periods defining each ââ¬Åmonthââ¬Â rather than the four 7-day weeks. The ââ¬ÅOneââ¬Â added to ââ¬Å21ââ¬Â to gain ââ¬Å22ââ¬Â, takes THE DATES AS RATIOS OF 7/-, INTO THE DECIMAL EXPANSION 3.142857142857142ââ¬Â¦etc. etc., ad inf. 7/22 (twenty two divided by seven) was Achimedesââ¬â¢ approximation to pi (or vice versa; see blog). Thus, the shooting of unarmed, helpless Brazillian Charles de Menezes following on the previous provided a violent punctuation, as it were to the previous dayââ¬â¢s shock, which by its repetition, punctuated ââ¬Å7/7ââ¬Â.
A third/fourth major event, connected fallout at this end of this interval is: A. The House of Representatives passing indefinite extension of the patriot act, some citing their concern about London; and B. Random bag searches are launched in NYCityââ¬â¢s subway system. ââ¬ÅTime is Right for Searches, Commissioner Tells Ridersââ¬Â¦ Attacks in London led New Yorkers to accept bag searches, Kelley says.ââ¬Â (NYTimes, n 25 Kareem Fahim)
In strictly token-association to 7/22 it should be mentioned that, if the slash ââ¬Å/ââ¬Â means arithmetical division, that is to say, symbol of a fraction, or a ratio, it goes over directly into 3.142857, which is twice significant: once, because it is a close approximation to the decimal expansion of pi, the ratio of units of length of the diameter of a circle to the units of length of its sides. Second, because the sequence .142857 is identical with the decimal for One, or unity, divided into seven parts, as on a circle. This sequence is ââ¬Åtokenedââ¬Â in moments in a 7-point circle circumference in the enneagram, conjoined by a great interior triad connecting the intervals 3-4, on the ordinal clockwise progression, plus the intervals 5-6, to the point of unity (7/9=0/l).
2005-07-25 18:01 | User Profile
London blasts was planned by intelligence.
Re: Israeli Embassy in state of emergency
By Associated Press Thursday, July 7, 2005 - Updated: 09:42 AM EST
JERUSALEM- British police told the Israel Embassy in London minutes before Thursday's explosions that they had received warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said. Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had planned to attend an economic conference in a hotel over the subway stop where one of the blasts occurred, and the warning prompted him to stay in his hotel room instead, government officials said.
[url]http://news.bostonherald.com/international/view.bg?articleid=92907[/url]
Re: Israel Was Warned Ahead of First Blast
[url]http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=85346[/url]
A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th. [url]http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm[/url]
#1 was later changed.
Re: "Who Stands To Gain? Israel Warned, Cover-up In Progress Propaganda Matrix | July 7 2005
BREAKING: Scrambled cover-up to try and change prior knowledge story. Original reports stated that Binyamin Netanyahu was warned BEFORE the first blast, now all the Associated Press reports are being changed to say he was warned AFTER the first blast, for example this article http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-07-07-israel-londonblasts_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA. The article linked below that we saved in our own format (and the website that carried it has strangely since crashed) said that Netanyahu was warned before the first blast. Israel are now denying http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=122106240&p=yzzyx68zxthey got a warning.
BREAKING: Scotland Yard says it got a warning before the attack and told Israel. "The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address and economic summit."
[url]http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2005/070705standstogain.htm[/url]
#2 is important truth in London bombing case Because the chance for such coincidence is almost zero. Seldom we saw a report of this truth in mainstream media. There was no necessity for media to fake a news of #1. But there is a strong motive for intelligence to deny and censor #1 and #2 if the bombing is an government planned one.
Lack of accountability that four dead "bombers" willing to die. The neighbor said the dead suspects were nice people. One has a baby of 8 months old and was a teacher of disabled children. Is that too convenient to say they all willing to suicide? Or more reasonably, those four men thought they were going to take part in an a trap disguised as an "anti-terror exercise"?
Unnecessary to die. Even if they were Islamic fanatics, there was no necessity for them to die. Suicide bombing happened when no other means could be used in high security alert situation. London until then was a peaceful city. There was no intensive alert. They could easily leave the bomb in train and get away. Even Al Qaida was not so stupid for such an unnecessary sacrifice. (btw, 10 pound bomb is a small object. It could be easy to fix in a shopping bag or hand bag. It couldn't be bigger than 2 of 5 pounds sugar pack which you can see in super market. It's totally unnecessary to have a big backpack like the dead suspects had in the picture. That's one of my doubt.)
The most absurd thing is there is no motivation. What was the purpose of bombing? Who was the target? The victim of London bombing are ordinary people. If it was an Al Qaida operation, then there are plenty of Jewish target, government target in London. Did they pick up wrong "enemy"? Who benefits from such attack?
If you don't have your mind fixed on information government and media set up for you such like " The suspects are suicide bombers", "Al Qaida links".A simple question will lead you to another point of view. The question is:
"Why four British citizens 'sacrifice' their own lives to kill other ordinary people? Who benefits from such attack? Al Qaida or Zionist controlled government?"
2005-07-26 16:54 | User Profile
Londoners can feel a whole lot safer. Police have taken to shooting dead random [B]white[/B] men they suspect of being suicide bombers.
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4713199.stm[/url]
2005-07-26 21:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Jim]Londoners can feel a whole lot safer. Police have taken to shooting dead random [B]white[/B] men they suspect of being suicide bombers.
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4713199.stm[/url][/QUOTE]
This is nonsense.
Understand the violence of the Muslim.
Obviously you are ignorant of it.
Some of you prattle and prattle on this thread - but know nothing of it. Of the hatred and the fight on the streets. Should I laugh or ignore.
Toughen-up. I am sick of the weakness on here.
It is a disappointment.
Mentzer
2005-07-26 21:25 | User Profile
The Arabs Muslims are in an uproar against the west, I wonder why?
You leave a rattler snake alone and it will leave you alone.
First the Zionists of Israel and then the Americans, I don't count the British because they are nothing more than patsies.
2005-07-26 21:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]The Arabs Muslims are in an uproar against the west, I wonder why?
You leave a rattler snake alone and it will leave you alone.
First the Zionists of Israel and then the Americans, I don't count the British because they are nothing more than patsies.[/QUOTE]
You are more Muslim than Cuban.
You will get yourself killed sonny.
Best make it known - than hide like a coward.
Yes.
Mentzer
2005-07-26 21:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]You are more Muslim than Cuban.
You will get yourself killed sonny.
Best make it known - than hide like a coward.
Yes.
Mentzer[/QUOTE]
Read my previous post, I am going to try and post a picture of the sign on my lawn......if anything I don't hide but challenge them.
Better to die as a free mand than to live as a slave.
2005-07-26 21:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE] Understand the violence of the Muslim.[/QUOTE]What violence are you referring to, Mentzer? If you are talking about what could be called "street violence" of Muslim criminals I would not disagree. if you are referring to terrorism then you need to understand the violence and terrorism of others that cause these things.
Why is it that you think Muslims commit these "terrorist" acts? And if you are simply going to tell me that I need to understand the violence of the Muslim, don't bother, that is not an answer.
And no, Mentzer it is not "weakness" to understand why they may do these things. But it may be weak to blind youself so you don't have to look at things you don't want to see.
2005-07-26 21:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]Read my previous post, I am going to try and post a picture of the sign on my lawn......if anything I don't hide but challenge them.
Better to die as a free mand than to live as a slave.[/QUOTE]
Your lawn needs the cutting. And your 'mand' is something I know not of.
Do not prattle of something you know nothing.
Do not preach to me, Cuban, you hide behind the protection of another country. I stand with my country and people - I do not run like a rat.
You wish to support the Muslim? You are my enemy.
Mentzer
2005-07-26 21:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE]
Do not preach to me, Cuban, you hide behind the protection of another country. I stand with my country and people - I do not run like a rat.
[/QUOTE] What is this country you stand with against the Muslims, Israel?
2005-07-26 21:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]What violence are you referring to, Mentzer? If you are talking about what could be called "street violence" of Muslim criminals I would not disagree. if you are referring to terrorism then you need to understand the violence and terrorism of others that cause these things.
Why is it that you think Muslims commit these "terrorist" acts? And if you are simply going to tell me that I need to understand the violence of the Muslim, don't bother, that is not an answer.[/QUOTE]
When you meet them, sometime, they will teach you.
You ignorant, protected girl.
However, I care not.
It is our fight - not yours.
Mentzer
2005-07-26 22:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]What is this country you stand with against the Muslims, Israel?[/QUOTE]
I find this strange.
You know nothing of Europe - do you?
You know nothing of the Muslim mass-immigration into Europe.
I find you ignorant. You have no idea of Germany or its people.
And you do nothing.
Mentzer
2005-07-26 22:08 | User Profile
Mentzer, I tend to agree with you on the seriousness of Muslim menace, but I also think that you have some pretty boorish net manners.
Petr
2005-07-26 22:19 | User Profile
I see.
You agree or you do not.
Do not make a woman of yourself.
I do not make that error.
I have no time for cowards. For your enemy relies on that.
I see nothing here that commends courage.
Mentzer
2005-07-26 22:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE] [QUOTE=Mentzer]
You know nothing of the Muslim mass-immigration into Europe. [/QUOTE] Yes, I do, I had assumed because of the thread, we were talking about terrorism. We already talked about Muslim immigrants living in Europe, and as I recall we did not disagree. Do you place any of the blame on, for instance Jews, or white liberal idiots for this, or is it just the Muslims that you reserve all of your wrath for?:boxing: [QUOTE]I find you ignorant. You have no idea of Germany or its people.[/QUOTE] I find you to be a tad neo-connish, in some ways.
[QUOTE]And you do nothing.[/QUOTE] What is it that I should be doing? And do tell, what it is that you are doing.
Why do you always sign all of your posts, that is annoying.
Starr
2005-07-26 23:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr][QUOTE]
Yes, I do, I had assumed because of the thread, we were talking about terrorism. We already talked about Muslim immigrants living in Europe, and as I recall we did not disagree. Do you place any of the blame on, for instance Jews, or white liberal idiots for this, or is it just the Muslims that you reserve all of your wrath for?:boxing:
I find you to be a tad neo-connish, in some ways.
What is it that I should be doing? And do tell, what it is that you are doing.
Why do you always sign all of your posts, that is annoying.
Starr[/QUOTE]
Tell me what you know about Muslims on the streets of Europe and so on.
I place the blame fully on white liberal fools. For they are to blame.
What is a "neo-connish"?
You are a woman - I suggest you do nothing.
What I do is not your business.
I leave it as that.
Mentzer
2005-07-27 07:12 | User Profile
If the state (presumably the British vassal regime, although the USA and Israel can't be excluded as suspects) did the bombings in London, as seems almost certain if some of the information in this thread is accurate, then it would be clear its foolish to retain any doubts about U.S.-government complicity in the 9/11 attacks (which has always seemed overwhelmingly likely to the informed minority, but this would really put the icing on the cake, as it were). It also suggests we needn't (much) fear nuclear attacks on our cities, because the present, Judeo-Bolshevist/neo-"conservative" regime is almost certainly aware such attacks would not be in their best interests, and in the event of such attacks, they themselves might very well lose their priviliged positions (even their lives), were they perceived to have been involved in such a "collossal security failure," (particularly within the context of the panic-driven rioting such an attack would be certain to inspire amongst the vulgar, ignorant rabble of pathetic degenerates currently in operation, in lieu of our having an actual citizenry upon which to depend in times of national crisis).
I really don't envy our enemies (and I ain't talking about Al-Qaeda, if you take my meaning) their position, and the very bad options it must leave them feeling compelled to choose from, now that they've painted their secret ruling cabal (and its treasonous servitors and gaggle of useful idiots) into such a series of seemingly inescapable corners.
"How do we prevent Iran from being able to nuke Israel, AND YET ALSO retain effective control over the USA?"
Answer: You can't. Nor can you retain American prosperity, i.e. the thing that makes controlling America worthwhile, via the massive financial & military resources that are a result of that prosperity, unless you alter its present trajectory in such a manner as to nearly equate with no longer controlling it at all.
"Things are falling apart because our policies have been globally ascendant since 1917 or so, yet we MUST remain firmly in contol so as to further implement more of the (detrimental) policies which will continue to exacerbate and escalate an ever-growing and potentially lethal series of crises!"
It must be frustrating.... :smile:
2005-07-27 08:14 | User Profile
[FONT=Arial][COLOR=Sienna][B][I] - "I see nothing here that commends courage."[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT]
Wow, you sure are one tough specimen, making us all look weaklings by comparison.
Ever heard about the term "keyboard commando"?
Petr
2005-07-27 10:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]Tell me what you know about Muslims on the streets of Europe and so on.
I place the blame fully on white liberal fools. For they are to blame.
What is a "neo-connish"?
You are a woman - I suggest you do nothing.
What I do is not your business.
I leave it as that.
Mentzer[/QUOTE] If someone threw rocks at your face would you blame the rocks or the person who is throwing them? Too many Whites on these forums want to blame minorities rather than blame the traitors from within. Minorities are just acting like the garbage that they are, which is fine IF they are doing that in their own natural sphere of the world. I think it is perfectly fine if Blacks want to cannibalize each other in Central Africa. It is also just great if Muslims want to put women in burkhas in the Middle East...none of that is any of my business!
Mexicans having low IQs? Fine, do it in Mexico. We need to start placing blame where it belongs...White traitors and the Jewish masterminds!!! Everything else is secondary!
2005-07-27 10:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]I find this strange.
You know nothing of Europe - do you?
You know nothing of the Muslim mass-immigration into Europe.
I find you ignorant. You have no idea of Germany or its people.
And you do nothing.
Mentzer[/QUOTE] Turks are Germany's Mexicans. If the mass media hadn't told Whites that manual labor was such a shameful thing, Whites wouldn't be embarrassed to have those minimum wage jobs.
2005-07-27 10:51 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]When you meet them, sometime, they will teach you.
You ignorant, protected girl.
However, I care not.
It is our fight - not yours.
Mentzer[/QUOTE] Our fight is against our own governments who have failed to protect us from minorities.
2005-07-27 10:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]Your lawn needs the cutting. And your 'mand' is something I know not of.
Do not prattle of something you know nothing.
Do not preach to me, Cuban, you hide behind the protection of another country. I stand with my country and people - I do not run like a rat.
You wish to support the Muslim? You are my enemy.
Mentzer[/QUOTE] No one here supports Muslims, we simply oppose wars that benefit Israel. :hitler:
2005-07-27 10:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]This is nonsense.
Understand the violence of the Muslim.
Obviously you are ignorant of it.
Some of you prattle and prattle on this thread - but know nothing of it. Of the hatred and the fight on the streets. Should I laugh or ignore.
Toughen-up. I am sick of the weakness on here.
It is a disappointment.
Mentzer[/QUOTE]I understand the violence of the Muslims but maybe you don't understand that countries like England, France, and Germany have legally banned all Anti-minority rhetoric. England has a law called the "Public Order Act" passed in 1986 which states that you can be imprisoned for the vague charge of speech that is "incitement to hatred of a minority group"
If the English people really wanted to stop Muslims they would have to begin by overturning those "Hate Speech" rules which control what they are permitted to say.
2005-07-27 12:09 | User Profile
Mentzer is, and has always been, a ****ing idiot. Period.
263 worthless posts all sounding like Thulsa Doom from the Conan books, or a Nazi Yoda.
[I]Weak, foolish girl. Preach not your menstrual softness to mine ears.
All here are weak and worthless and unworthy of my Norse gods.
To such as I, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.
[B]Answer if you can![/B]: what is best in life?
To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. To hear the lamentation of the women.
What is steel compared to the hand that wields it?
Look at the strength in your body, the desire in your heart, I gave you this! Such a waste.
Contemplate this on the tree of woe.
Mentzer [/I]
2005-07-27 13:56 | User Profile
IR, I prefer to call Mentzer a Turd Blossom.
2005-07-27 14:22 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Mentzer is, and has always been, a ****ing idiot. Period.
263 worthless posts all sounding like Thulsa Doom from the Conan books, or a Nazi Yoda.
*Weak, foolish girl. Preach not your menstrual softness to mine ears.
All here are weak and worthless and unworthy of my Norse gods.
To such as I, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.
Answer if you can!: what is best in life?
To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. To hear the lamentation of the women.
What is steel compared to the hand that wields it?
Look at the strength in your body, the desire in your heart, I gave you this! Such a waste.
Contemplate this on the tree of woe.
Mentzer *[/QUOTE] Watch out. He got heated at me last week for calling him a bloody troll. But, I must be one of those weak minded little girls who prattle in this thread and yet are ignorant of the truth. The truth that only Mentzer knows and to which we are all pawns. Sounds like someone ODed on the roids if you asked me. Let's see if his English/German dictionary computes that.
2005-07-28 00:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Petr][FONT=Arial][COLOR=Sienna][B][I] - "I see nothing here that commends courage."[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT]
Wow, you sure are one tough specimen, making us all look weaklings by comparison.
Ever heard about the term "keyboard commando"?[/QUOTE]
One does wonder just how many National Socialist leaflets (I assume NS is his general tendency, which is oakey-doakey by moi, naturally) he's handed out on the streets. As one who's trying not to sound like he's bragging (and probably failing just a little bit, unfortunately) when he notes he's had a shotgun pointed at his head in his own living room for doing exactly that, I'm inclined to suspect that those who have not done anything, other than post vainglorious messages on bulletin boards like this one, are the quickest to criticize others for allegedly being the exact same way (and due to the more modest demeanor of the sort who are inclined to actually take positive action on behalf of the interests of their people, rather than merely pontificate on the cowardice of those who they perceive as having done as little as they themselves have, they no doubt find themselves in the not necessarily infrequent position of making false accusations against those who have done more than they have). Of course, this may or may not apply to the individual in question, but we are hardly to be blamed if he chooses to conform to a negative stereotype....
2005-07-28 02:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=OttoR]No one here supports Muslims, we simply oppose wars that benefit Israel. :hitler:[/QUOTE]
That's more or less it, however, I'd take it a step further. I have no real problem if a war benefits Israel (although ideally, it would be preferable if it did not), just so long as the principal, if not sole reason we are involved in a given war is in order to realistically advance our own authentic national interests. The war in Iraq doesn't do that, so it was a tragic mistake that has almost certainly cost the lives of well over 2,000 Americans*, with no doubt many more (quite possibly the overwhelming majority) yet to come. The war in Afghanistan was lost back in December of 2001 when we, either through cowardice and incompetence in the mainstream (yet rarely commented upon) view of persons like President-elect John Kerry of Massachusetts, and several of his Senatorial colleagues in the Democrat Party, or through active collusion with the enemy, i.e. a deliberate conspiracy to protect Osama bin-Laden and several of his lieutenants, as I suspect to be the case (even Jorge W. Boosh is unlikely to have reached such a veritable apex of fearful imbecility, as tempting as it may be to believe otherwise), effectively permitted Osama bin-Laden and presumably Taliban chief Mullah Mohammed Omar, and numerous important operatives within both the Al-Qaeda and Taliban millieus, to escape eastward from their underground complex at Torra Borra, bribing the Northern Alliance warlords we laughably left in charge of securing the nearby Pakistani border (who witnesses openly state they saw being given substantial golden ingots by apparent Al-Qaeda operatives). This allowed their escape into the Northwest Frontier Province, the one (of four total) Pakistani provinces with a provincial government that has views essentially identical to those of bin-Laden and Omar (thus I'm not surprised local authorities haven't been able to manage to locate any of the numerous Al-Qaeda operatives to have at least passed through (and quite probably residing presently in many/most cases) the Northwest Frontier Province (the Pakistani national government has limited influence in that remote, backwards, impoverished, and dangerous province, which is a region of Pakistan about as lawless, primitive, chaotic, and violent as Afghanistan itself, thus our Pakistani allies have only been able to capture a few middle and low-level Al-Qaeda operatives in the province; it probably doesn't help that the ISI, which has made several attempts to assassinate pro-Western Pakistani President Musharaff (sic?), as well as engaged in multiple coup plots and attempts against his government since 9/11/01, actually recruited Mullah Mohammed Omar and the other madrassah students who became the Taliban (for the explicit purpose of having them seize control of the Afghanistan government), worked very closely with Osama bin-Laden during the Soviet-Afghan war, and is historically and presently dominated and staffed by persons known to be quite adamant Islamists (often of at least pseudo-Wahhabist orientation, and even open admirers of bin-Laden and the 9/11 attacks).
To reiterate, once bin-Laden and a vital core of his top commanders and their loyal foot soldiers managed to escape from our alleged effort to annihilate them at the Battle of Torra Borra (our most important battle since AT LEAST the Inchon Landing of 1951, in my humble opinion; its says a lot about America today that we lost that battle by any reasonable standard; other than for our first engagement with hardened, veteran German ground forces in Tunisia - which was probably a given under the circumstances - I don't believe the U.S. has lost a battle of that magnitude since Chancelorville, or one of the other major Confederate victories of the 1861-1865 War of Northern Aggression), the war in Afghanistan was lost. You'd have to ask the neo-"conservatives," or perhaps your local rabbi, just why we are still involved in a war we lost (and thus has been over, other than as an opportunity to inflict casualties on American forces and waste American resources in a pointless epilogue to our defeat) over 3.5 years ago....
*Despite an official KIA figure of a little under 1,800; they apparently manage to trim the numbers a bit when wounded soldiers die after being medically evacuated from Iraq, plus those numbers don't count mercenaries (who frankly have it coming in a damn big way, so good riddance to bad rubbish, and no, I won't apologize if one of their family members reads that, because more important than their hurt feelings is the fact that I am correctly stating the unspoken truth, and their loved one was, whether stupidly or consciously, engaged in evil actions which ought to be felonious under Federal law, and its the duty of patriotic Americans to damn well say so), diplomats, civilian contractors (like the truck driver from Texas who got killed by insurgents while driving for Halliburton), aid workers, and other private U.S. citizens residing in Iraq for whatever reason, be it diabolical or charitable.
2005-07-28 19:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE=OttoR]If someone threw rocks at your face would you blame the rocks or the person who is throwing them? Too many Whites on these forums want to blame minorities rather than blame the traitors from within. Minorities are just acting like the garbage that they are, which is fine IF they are doing that in their own natural sphere of the world. I think it is perfectly fine if Blacks want to cannibalize each other in Central Africa. It is also just great if Muslims want to put women in burkhas in the Middle East...none of that is any of my business!
Mexicans having low IQs? Fine, do it in Mexico. We need to start placing blame where it belongs...White traitors and the Jewish masterminds!!! Everything else is secondary![/QUOTE]
Precisely my thinking.
Mentzer
2005-07-28 19:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=OttoR]Turks are Germany's Mexicans. If the mass media hadn't told Whites that manual labor was such a shameful thing, Whites wouldn't be embarrassed to have those minimum wage jobs.[/QUOTE]
Again correct.
Mentzer
2005-07-28 20:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=OttoR]I understand the violence of the Muslims but maybe you don't understand that countries like England, France, and Germany have legally banned all Anti-minority rhetoric. England has a law called the "Public Order Act" passed in 1986 which states that you can be imprisoned for the vague charge of speech that is "incitement to hatred of a minority group"
If the English people really wanted to stop Muslims they would have to begin by overturning those "Hate Speech" rules which control what they are permitted to say.[/QUOTE]
I understand fully the implications of minority laws imposed upon placid majorities.
It is an evil - and that evil must be purged.
And the meaning of evil should be understood clearly. Part of it means quality of existence. Followed by the allowance of life or death. And soon others may determine that for you.
It is very simple. And never be fooled by the goat-herders that own the eye of the serpent.
There still remains the opportunity to vote for strong leadership. And rid ourselves of this pestilence of filth and disease and contagion of weakness.
There will come the way and the means - of that I am certain.
And they fear it as they know it.
Mentzer
2005-07-28 20:16 | User Profile
Blaming everything on "the Jews" as if our leaders were too stupid to understand the situation is naive and insulting to whites. The reality is that elitism cuts across the racial divide and our Anglo bosses saw that they had more in common with the Jewish bosses than they did with their own working class. For centuries, the great and powerful have cut deals at the expense of the common people: remember Yalta where Churchill and Roosevelt dediced to commit Eastern Europe to Communism knowing full well what kind of a man Stalin was? Churchill and Roosevelt weren't a pair of dupes caught up in some Jewish mind control; they were full and equal partners acting on what they perceived as their own best interests. Stalin, while an adherent of Lenin, wasn't a toad of Jews either; he was a Georgian who did whatever was in his best interest and killed anyone who opposed him whether Jew or Gentile. This type of blame everything on the Jew mentality is why WNism is the laughing stock of the political world and a magnet for every freak out there.
2005-07-28 21:10 | User Profile
....our Anglo bosses saw that they had more in common with the Jewish bosses than they did with their own working class.
The dirty little secret few if any paleos or WNs want to dwell on.....that the same guy who has chummy dinners and drinking sessions with Abie the Lobbyist and Pincus the Media Liason is the guy you have to call two weeks ahead of time and run a gauntlet of security guards and receptionists and gofers only to be told is booked solid with meetings but appreciates your concerns and thanks you for sharing them...... because 'classism' smacks of Commie dogma, and besides, it complicates the Jew-thing. And making war is much easier when you have cartoon wolves to protect Little Red Riding Hood from.
2005-07-28 21:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]The reality is that elitism cuts across the racial divide and our Anglo bosses saw that they had more in common with the Jewish bosses than they did with their own working class.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but I am wary of arguments that could be useful for providing Jews cover, even if accurate. They tend to relax the mind vis a vis Jews in ways that can be dangerous. I'm sure you'll agree that we must always be watching them, questioning their motives, scrutinizing their pronouncements, doing all we can to block them from power and generally mentally spitting every time we see John Podhoretz's fat little face or Bill Kristol's lying blue eyes.
The "we common folk" are all in it together sentiment reminds me of the black dreadlocked socialist anti who screamed at me that working-class whites' real enemy was upper-class whites, not non-whites. Not entirely dismissable, really, but I'm more hopeful for white reconciliation that black-white reconciliation, and besides, whether I'm oppressin' another white or bein' oppressed, I'll take that over living anywhere near a black neighborhood any day.
2005-07-29 00:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]The dirty little secret few if any paleos or WNs want to dwell on.....that the same guy who has chummy dinners and drinking sessions with Abie the Lobbyist and Pincus the Media Liason is the guy you have to call two weeks ahead of time and run a gauntlet of security guards and receptionists and gofers only to be told is booked solid with meetings but appreciates your concerns and thanks you for sharing them...... because 'classism' smacks of Commie dogma, and besides, it complicates the Jew-thing. And making war is much easier when you have cartoon wolves to protect Little Red Riding Hood from.[/QUOTE]
Yes. And some read cartoons and quote from it.
And some support Muslims in their killing.
And some have a hatred for white men and women.
And some need to keep their mouth shut.
Mentzer
2005-07-29 00:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln] The "we common folk" are all in it together sentiment reminds me of the black dreadlocked socialist anti who screamed at me that working-class whites' real enemy was upper-class whites, not non-whites. Not entirely dismissable, really, but I'm more hopeful for white reconciliation that black-white reconciliation, and besides, whether I'm oppressin' another white or bein' oppressed, I'll take that over living anywhere near a black neighborhood any day.[/QUOTE] I think most rational white people, if they were honest, would rather live under an "oppressive" white government where the ruling class whites at least acknowledged their common racial solidarity with lower class whites, and acted accordingly by keeping non-whites out of the country, etc. This is infinitely preferable to a "non-repressive" rule by white elites given to "race forming behavior" (to use Sir Arthur Keith's terminology) in which elite whites come to think that they are literally a better race of people than ordinary whites, and therefore have no reluctance to selling out their fellow whites in order to advance their own short term class interests.
A "repressive" but racially aware white ruling elite can be reasoned with, fought against, reformed or replaced. A "tolerant", meaning, traitorous, white ruling elite is simply the first stage leading to chaos, racial conflict, and ultimately if not stopped, racial extinction, and is therefore much worse. No matter how much such white elites play the "democracy" and "tolerance" cards, their policies are pure poison and result in ends much worse than mere political tyranny per se.
2005-07-29 01:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Kevin_O'Keeffe]One does wonder just how many National Socialist leaflets (I assume NS is his general tendency, which is oakey-doakey by moi, naturally) he's handed out on the streets. As one who's trying not to sound like he's bragging (and probably failing just a little bit, unfortunately) when he notes he's had a shotgun pointed at his head in his own living room for doing exactly that, I'm inclined to suspect that those who have not done anything, other than post vainglorious messages on bulletin boards like this one, are the quickest to criticize others for allegedly being the exact same way (and due to the more modest demeanor of the sort who are inclined to actually take positive action on behalf of the interests of their people, rather than merely pontificate on the cowardice of those who they perceive as having done as little as they themselves have, they no doubt find themselves in the not necessarily infrequent position of making false accusations against those who have done more than they have). Of course, this may or may not apply to the individual in question, but we are hardly to be blamed if he chooses to conform to a negative stereotype....[/QUOTE]
An interesting post.
We come from different place. Dissimilar environment.
The people of my place need no instruction.
But who put the gun to your head?
The police? You remain alive.
I ask in good faith.
Mentzer
2005-07-29 02:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=grep14w]I think most rational white people, if they were honest, would rather live under an "oppressive" white government where the ruling class whites at least acknowledged their common racial solidarity with lower class whites, and acted accordingly by keeping non-whites out of the country, etc. This is infinitely preferable to a "non-repressive" rule by white elites given to "race forming behavior" (to use Sir Arthur Keith's terminology) in which elite whites come to think that they are literally a better race of people than ordinary whites, and therefore have no reluctance to selling out their fellow whites in order to advance their own short term class interests.
A "repressive" but racially aware white ruling elite can be reasoned with, fought against, reformed or replaced. A "tolerant", meaning, traitorous, white ruling elite is simply the first stage leading to chaos, racial conflict, and ultimately if not stopped, racial extinction, and is therefore much worse. No matter how much such white elites play the "democracy" and "tolerance" cards, their policies are pure poison and result in ends much worse than mere political tyranny per se.[/QUOTE]
Orwell wrote an essay appropo to what you are talking about where he discusses the general dislike of the upper class Brit for the Brit plebs, and that they preferred the servant classes in India to their own. Probably has more than a little to do with the British immigration issue.
2005-07-29 02:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]Orwell wrote an essay appropo to what you are talking about where he discusses the general dislike of the upper class Brit for the Brit plebs, and that they preferred the servant classes in India to their own. Probably has more than a little to do with the British immigration issue.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I believe Yggdrasil's website refers to this as "race forming behavior" based on Sir Arthur Keith's writings; basically, the ruling class comes to think of themselves as a superior race different from ordinary whites, and does everything it can to create this artificial distinction. The creation of liberal multiculturalism and "anti-racism" is thus not only a Jewish strategy, but also an elite white strategy. It differentiates themselves from the white masses.
After all, their Hindu butler isn't going to be getting any uppity notions about equality based on a sense of common national identity. The elites think they can simply keep on importing and bribing new "help" to replace the old help when it gets too "uppity".
Once you start thinking about what Orwell wrote in regards to this, and other writers of similar sort who were more openly racial (Jack London, for instance) it's not hard to understand why nationalist movements in Europe in the early 20th century were all "socialist" of one kind or another.
White ruling elites had no one to blame but themselves for white working class socialism. They didn't learn their lesson, though; instead they deepened their alliance with Jews, and opened the floodgates to non-white immigration to "solve" the problem of uppity white workers.
2005-07-29 02:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln]Yes, but I am wary of arguments that could be useful for providing Jews cover, even if accurate. They tend to relax the mind vis a vis Jews in ways that can be dangerous. I'm sure you'll agree that we must always be watching them, questioning their motives, scrutinizing their pronouncements, doing all we can to block them from power and generally mentally spitting every time we see John Podhoretz's fat little face or Bill Kristol's lying blue eyes.
The "we common folk" are all in it together sentiment reminds me of the black dreadlocked socialist anti who screamed at me that working-class whites' real enemy was upper-class whites, not non-whites. Not entirely dismissable, really, but I'm more hopeful for white reconciliation that black-white reconciliation, and besides, whether I'm oppressin' another white or bein' oppressed, I'll take that over living anywhere near a black neighborhood any day.[/QUOTE] I'll grant Zionism no quarter and have been a vocal opponent of Jewish supremacism for many years; all I want is for a rational discussion of the situation that makes us look sane instead of like a bunch of foaming at the mouth misfits. Again, the point I made was perfectly clear that white elites see other elites as kindred spirits and spit on their own kind; that doesn't mean I'm going to smoke some dope with the Bob Marley crowd. All I ask for is a little rational discourse about a very important subject. I'll make it perfectly clear for you guys as I did on Stormfront: Jews are a multiracial people with no place in the West; Jews are biological programmed to harbor communistic ideas that are dangerous to our way of life; Jewish supremacism seeks to sumperimpose their paradigms on top of natural law. But, on the other hand, I will not say that most Jews are bad people; that they're all in on a conspiracy against us; or that they are single handedly the sole source of all of our woes. We whites have produced enough SOBs and if you need proof just look toward the White House.
2005-07-29 07:47 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]Precisely my thinking.
[/QUOTE] It doesn't sound precisely like your thinking from other things you have said, but if it is then I misjudged you.:cheers:
2005-07-29 16:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Blaming everything on "the Jews" as if our leaders were too stupid to understand the situation is naive and insulting to whites. The reality is that elitism cuts across the racial divide and our Anglo bosses saw that they had more in common with the Jewish bosses than they did with their own working class.[/QUOTE]Did they really have more in common with the Jewish community? Are you contending that they have in fact formed a separate race in the sense that grep14w is talking about? If so, how is positing their gullibility insulting to whites (since they're not "white" but of some other race)? Even if not, how is positing their gullibility insulting to whites? Are you insulted when the doctor tells you you have strep throat or another infection?
This is what we are talking about -- the invasion of our community by pathogens in a manner that is precisely analogous to the invasion of pathogens into the body of an individual human. The life of the pathogen is a life of deception, designed to prevent the immune system from discriminating accurately between self and non-self.
Is it possible that Jews attempt to persuade the elite that they have more in common with them (i.e., the Jews) than with their poor relations? Is it conceivable that they do not?
Can you entertain the notion that this persuasion exacerbates any pre-existing differentiation between the elite and the lower classes? Is it likely that it does not?
2005-08-05 21:38 | User Profile
I leave it for people to think about by themselves the possibility that an "anti-terror exercise" took place at exact same time and same site when a real terror attack happened. But obviously it was a work of intelligence:
No one has such authority except the intelligence to carry out an exercise at rush hour in busy public transportation line. Because it will cause traffic blocking and confusion and panic. Something what authority tries to avoid. So they must have extraordinary reason to do it.
This news was strictly censored by mainstream media before and after incident. Even Londoners were not aware of it.
Real terrorist would try to diversify the bomb into different guise or in small package to make it less noticeable. A determined suicide bomber used to bind explosive on his body so others won't suspect. Why did they carry unnecessary similar big backpacks?
When you have four delivery men to spread commercial fliers, would you drop them one by one in each delivery area or just drop them in a station then let them take public communication?(If so, why drove? Just let them take public communication right from the beginning.)
Imagine. How could government make you believe with four different pictures that: In Picadilly station, a man with empty hand; in a bus station, a man with a shopping bag; In King's Cross station, ...... Said these were suicide bombers.
Or rather, show you with one picture that four men flock together with similar big backpacks?
The four dead men hadn't behaved in real terrorist way but to fit the demand of government propaganda that they were bombers.
Read the following information. It shows that: 1. Government knew something would happen. 2. Police's behave may be explained as a preparation for an "exercise". 3. The most important thing is nobody(include police) seemed to know there was an "exercise" before or after the incident.
Re: "Londoners Suspicious Of Station Closures Before Blasts Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | July 12 2005
Internet forums are not the benchmark of absolute truth and unlike the government, who eagerly rush to give credibility to an 'Al-Qaeda' statement as soon as a Bush-linked Internet company can post it, we do not offer this as concrete proof of anything. However, it is interesting nonetheless.
Several different people on the forum of the London Evening Standard website are reporting their own perculiar experiences on the day of the bombing.
One member writes, Hi everyone,
Did anyone travelling in BEFORE the attacks began yesterday notice anything peculiar on their tube journey?
I catch the Piccadilly line at 7.15am each morning from Southgate to reach my work in Kensington by 8.00. Normally, all seats are taken by Finsbury Park and carriages are packed by Kings Cross.
However, yesterday my tube journey was eerily quiet. For the first time ever there were spare seats in my carriage all the way through zone 1. It was noticeable enough for me to wonder what on earth was going on. This was at 7.45 - over an hour before attacks began. I've also heard people saying that the Northern Line was being shut down at the same time. Is there something that we're not being told?
Another member responds, yes!!
I was due to pick a work collegue up from balham at 7:15am, but when i got there i was greeted with Tube emergency vans, police and and hoards of people being turned away from a closed station.
All very strange they must have known something was going to happan, the surely had a tip off. As i drove along the road, (which also follows the tubes) they were all shut and hundreds of people were queing for buses.
when i reached Oval, which was open there were two armed policemen in a road next to the station, which for a quiet area like that is extremly rare.
the northen line was shut from morden to stockwell. They blatently knew something was going down, they just got it wrong and are hoping no one mentions anything.
When combined with the bomb scares in different major cities days before the bombing, the Israeli warnings and the beyond a coincidence exercises the day of the attack, these accounts shed more light on the true nature of the attack.
[url]http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=37984[/url]
2005-08-15 19:41 | User Profile
I think it was the work of D.O.J.
In my case, for many times Feds had tried to carry out terror attacks to control the situation. The evident ones since last year:
One thing interesting was how my revelation changed the warning method of D.O.J. Have you noticed that in #1. and #2. the terror alert was issued by FBI and D.O.J.? Then in #3. and #4. Tom Ridge replaced the role of FBI. Why? If you noticed in #2, I wrote,(quote from 232) "Under the Homeland Security Act of 2002, only the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can publicly issue such threat warnings. What made D.O.J. neglect DHS? "
It was a swift response from Feds. They cover up their flaw by letting Tom Ridge to do the work for them. Ridge was only a puppet in these cases. But Feds felt uncomfortable to let "outsider"(Tom Ridge) to involve in their criminal case. So there after there was no terror alarm anymore. #5 and #6 were only plan and case of FBI.
All the above six "terror attack" cases related to the framed cases applied on me in timing. The plotter is no other but Feds - D.O.J. and FBI. The framed case soured under my revelation. None of the above "terror attacks" was proved true.
Out of these six "terrorist cases", you can see five were accused of "Al Qaida", only #6 was accused of "Iraqi and Chinese". How convenient it is to attribute everything to "Al Qaida". That is why we can never find Bin Laden or Al Zarqawi. They are so important chips in "Extortion war on people" for Bush and inside group.
In recent months, framed case came one after another, the latest one ended on 7/1. What would be the next? I wondered.
In July 6th, London won the host of 2012 Olympic Games. The Olympic Game is a profitable business. It will benefit the economy of hosting country. I had experience that it was used as a chip in secret deal. (China was rewarded 2008 Olympic as a payment in secret deal with FBI and DEA in 2001. See "77. The payment of deal (July 2002)" ) So when I heard this news, I wondered if it was another secret deal? It was.
Next day, London bombing solved my puzzle. London suffered a terror attack(in the name of Al Qaida) but got a compensation in economy.
It also solved my puzzle that a terror attack will be used to distract in next framed case. London bombing will justify the next "terror attack" in US. Pre-psychological propaganda is an important tactic Feds used in their plot. So they always issued an alert to a plot to en-believe the public that it was real from enemy. But the previous "case" were all soured which brought them embarrassment. Such like that their "most wanted" was proved to be in jail already. Or the case was a "hoax". Or the plot was from their own informant. This time they bought a big one: "London bombing". With which, feds quietly got what they want: an "orange" code in home security without public notice.
(The messages about London bombing were also posted in another thread "SARS, a bio-attack" in this forum. Since Feds played a tricky way which may make my article disappeared from other readers so I post in both threads. I knew so because the view counter doesn't work when I clicked into that thread.)
2005-08-15 21:49 | User Profile
This is very poor.
You want to protect the Muslim? You want to put the blame on others?
And you care not for the dead caused by the Muslim in London? You care little for those that grieve?
Take it elsewhere. Perhaps to your pals in the desert.
Mentzer
2005-08-25 22:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]This is very poor.
You want to protect the Muslim? You want to put the blame on others?
And you care not for the dead caused by the Muslim in London? You care little for those that grieve?
Take it elsewhere. Perhaps to your pals in the desert.
Mentzer[/QUOTE]
This is very ugly.
You want to cover up the real murderer? You want to distract criminal tracing?
Of course you don't care for the dead caused by neocon inside group. You care little for those that grieve.
In "extortion war on people", inside group activated several bombing attacks disguised as "terror attack" to blackmail people for extra power.
Feds was behind Oklahoma bombing. D.O.J. tried to seek the power which was similar to "Patriot Act" had given but failed.
D.O.J. successfully got the "Patriot Act" in 911 attack. Which also justified the later Mid-east war.
A DC sniper shooting spree pushed the US House passed the bill to authorize the Iraq war power to President Bush in early October, 2002. Iraq war was inevitable.
That was why about same time in October, 2002, a French oil tanker was attacked and there was a Bali bombing which killed nearly 200 Australians. An effort to push France and Australia to join the Iraq war. It failed on France but succeeded on Australia.
Madrid bombing in March 2004 was obvious at the purpose to help Bush's ally - Aznar - in election. Though it failed.
All these bombings came with a strong motive - to provoke the public feeling so inside group could get what they want: a war, an election or a power.
London bombing lacks of an obvious motive. But it coincides perfectly with the development of persecution D.O.J. applies on me. I immediately knew what it was when I heard the news of London bombing. (see # 327)
It was not a coincidence that State Secretary Rice visited China next day (7/8). The plot from the beginning was planned as a drug case framed with the help of Chinese secret police. (Former FBI director Louis Freeh and DEA head Marshall lost their jobs in first secret deal with China in 2001.) Rice's visit signifies a new plot. (see "249. Secret deal and July plot (8/24/04)")
The second London bombing was a soured attempt of this plot. They still let it go but reduce the level to a light one. The following events all connect to the case, took place on 7/21/2005. Notice some of them caught big topics but the practical result were little.
The second London bombing on 7/21. All were similar to the first bombing. Only this time, no bomb was exploded. Nobody died, include "suicide bomber".
Since 7/11, San Jose had experienced a weather hotter then usual, about 5 to 10 degrees above normal. That heat wave caused a dozen of unusual deaths in Los Angles and Arizona. On the very day of 7/21, the temperature dropped below normal and there was a rain. News said, "Yeesh. Four days ago, the South Bay was baking in 90-degree heat. On Thursday, it was cool, cloudy and raining. In July.What gives?.... San Jose reached only 77 degrees. Thursday - normal for the date is 84. And the rain was scant: .01 inches."
I used to trim trees on Thursdays. (Friday is garbage collect day) I collected yard trash on week-end that week, several days before Thursday. They knew I would have yard trash on street on 7/21 the Thursday. So there was a "very unusual" rain(TV broadcaster said). Only at last it turned out to be a small one: 0.01 inches.
On 7/21, China raised the value of its currency by 2% which some economists say is undervalued by 40 percent. The echo is loud only the step is small. ( I will explain later how the currency rate is part of deal.)
Patriot Act extended on that night. "Within hours of a a second attack on the London transit system, lawmakers in the House and Senate pushed ahead Thursday with starkly different bills to extend the USA Patriot Act anti-terrorism law." (Mercury News, 7/22/05) ( I will explain it later some of version related to my case.)
The main drama, an attack in US, doesn't act yet. It will be a big one. It probably will take place in several places such like New York, Boston.... especially in California. Beware of a large terror attack, from our own government.
2005-08-26 04:42 | User Profile
what kind of website did you get that off of Kathaksung? these articles can be somewhat interesting, but if they come from some site that also talks about UFOs or shape shifting reptilians or anything of that nature, than you can't really place a lot of trust in the reliability.
2005-08-26 16:01 | User Profile
Or "vapor trails", one of my pet peeves.
I've left thousands of them.
2005-08-28 04:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=kathaksung]This is very ugly.
You want to cover up the real murderer? You want to distract criminal tracing?
Of course you don't care for the dead caused by neocon inside group. You care little for those that grieve.
In "extortion war on people", inside group activated several bombing attacks disguised as "terror attack" to blackmail people for extra power.
Feds was behind Oklahoma bombing. D.O.J. tried to seek the power which was similar to "Patriot Act" had given but failed.
D.O.J. successfully got the "Patriot Act" in 911 attack. Which also justified the later Mid-east war.
A DC sniper shooting spree pushed the US House passed the bill to authorize the Iraq war power to President Bush in early October, 2002. Iraq war was inevitable.
That was why about same time in October, 2002, a French oil tanker was attacked and there was a Bali bombing which killed nearly 200 Australians. An effort to push France and Australia to join the Iraq war. It failed on France but succeeded on Australia.
Madrid bombing in March 2004 was obvious at the purpose to help Bush's ally - Aznar - in election. Though it failed.
All these bombings came with a strong motive - to provoke the public feeling so inside group could get what they want: a war, an election or a power.
London bombing lacks of an obvious motive. But it coincides perfectly with the development of persecution D.O.J. applies on me. I immediately knew what it was when I heard the news of London bombing. (see # 327)
It was not a coincidence that State Secretary Rice visited China next day (7/8). The plot from the beginning was planned as a drug case framed with the help of Chinese secret police. (Former FBI director Louis Freeh and DEA head Marshall lost their jobs in first secret deal with China in 2001.) Rice's visit signifies a new plot. (see "249. Secret deal and July plot (8/24/04)")
The second London bombing was a soured attempt of this plot. They still let it go but reduce the level to a light one. The following events all connect to the case, took place on 7/21/2005. Notice some of them caught big topics but the practical result were little.
The second London bombing on 7/21. All were similar to the first bombing. Only this time, no bomb was exploded. Nobody died, include "suicide bomber".
Since 7/11, San Jose had experienced a weather hotter then usual, about 5 to 10 degrees above normal. That heat wave caused a dozen of unusual deaths in Los Angles and Arizona. On the very day of 7/21, the temperature dropped below normal and there was a rain. News said, "Yeesh. Four days ago, the South Bay was baking in 90-degree heat. On Thursday, it was cool, cloudy and raining. In July.What gives?.... San Jose reached only 77 degrees. Thursday - normal for the date is 84. And the rain was scant: .01 inches."
I used to trim trees on Thursdays. (Friday is garbage collect day) I collected yard trash on week-end that week, several days before Thursday. They knew I would have yard trash on street on 7/21 the Thursday. So there was a "very unusual" rain(TV broadcaster said). Only at last it turned out to be a small one: 0.01 inches.
On 7/21, China raised the value of its currency by 2% which some economists say is undervalued by 40 percent. The echo is loud only the step is small. ( I will explain later how the currency rate is part of deal.)
Patriot Act extended on that night. "Within hours of a a second attack on the London transit system, lawmakers in the House and Senate pushed ahead Thursday with starkly different bills to extend the USA Patriot Act anti-terrorism law." (Mercury News, 7/22/05) ( I will explain it later some of version related to my case.)
The main drama, an attack in US, doesn't act yet. It will be a big one. It probably will take place in several places such like New York, Boston.... especially in California. Beware of a large terror attack, from our own government.[/QUOTE]
Nonsense.
Mentzer
2005-09-05 21:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]what kind of website did you get that off of Kathaksung? these articles can be somewhat interesting, but if they come from some site that also talks about UFOs or shape shifting reptilians or anything of that nature, than you can't really place a lot of trust in the reliability.[/QUOTE]
I used to post URL if I refer a news. Otherwise its my opinion.
Explanation to (3) of "330. London bombing is a justification for coming US attack". Why do I think the Chinese currency relates to the plot?
At first, I thought the "terror attack:" on US would take place in early August. Because Feds arranged a trip for my relatives at that time. The trip will cover New York and Canada from 8/6 to 8/13. Anytime if possible, Feds always arranged a trip in the case because it's easy to plant to arrest during a trip or murder by an accident. The latest travel Feds arranged was in April. In that plot, H.A. gave a final date to fix garage door on 4/17 which I viewed as action date of Feds. It coincides with the return date of my relatives. That China trip took almost one month vacation date on my relatives so I thought there would be no more trip for them this year. But when Feds needs it, people have to obey, so do the companies they work for. It reflects the eagerness of Feds. (When I use the word "Feds", I mean D.O.J. and its accessories FBI, DEA... , not Federal Reserve.)
Why pick up this time? Because on 8/9, Federal Reserve likely will once again raise the bench interest rate. As I have said, Feds bought a lot of houses in my case, so they desperately try to make the interest rate low to keep the house value high.
What did they do to keep the interest rate low?
As a result, Federal Reserve collaborated. Greenspan dropped the interest rates from 6.5% to 1.75% in 2001. (A 4.75 drop in 12 months) House market boosted. Now the economic situation forces Federal Reserve to raise the interest rate to anti inflation and housing market balloon and maintain dollar from collapsing. Greenspan raised the rate in a measured (stagnant) step. (A raise of 2.25 in 12 months from 1% to 3.25%)
Bush administration carries out a weak dollar policy which makes merchandise made in US cheaper to the foreign buyers. Dollar depreciates almost 1/3 to Euro and 20% to Japanese Yuen. Bush also cut the tax to let people have more money to spend. (It's a trick though. He lets people spend on their debt. He has a historical budget deficit. People have to pay off the debt later by paying more tax)
Do these policies work? Yes, it creates demand but does little to boost employment. Because Feds tried their best to reduce the employment. How?
(1) By outsourcing jobs. When it was criticized, they threw out a strange theory that outsourcing will benefit US economy in future.
(2) Stop hiring new workers. Big firms did not hire workers when demand increased. Same workers have to do more job. The result you could see from media in later 2003. When they beat the drum to say "Growth is now super-super strong compared to super strong,'', "U.S. 3rd-Qtr GDP Grew at 8.2% Rate, Fastest Since '84". They never mentioned about the jobs. They only said the productivity is increased by a double digit. In another word, 10 workers must do the job originally 11 workers did. For this phenomenon, they invent a new word:"Jobless recovery".
(3) Lay off working people.
Jobless recovery went into year2004. It was an election year. Bush's economic advisers predicted in early February that the US economy would add 2.6 million jobs in 2004. But that was against Feds' interest. Then we saw, "MCI to slash 7500 jobs"(5/11/04), "Dupont will lay off at least 2500" (4/9) "Seagate to cut 2,940 jobs" (May or June 04) "AT&T to cut 7,500 more jobs"(10/8) ..... At last, Bush was unable to make it a positive topic in his election campaign.
The explanation from Greenspan was that enterprises still lacked of confidence. That in this economy recovery, enterprises had an unusual conservative attitude to increase new capital investment and hiring more people.
Rare people know all these problem were caused by Feds. Bush's election, public's interest are out of consideration. Feds' interest, how small it is, is always at first place. They control CEO of big firms.(see "291. CEO and company (2/14/05)" and #292) So by outsourcing, controlling hiring and spending, Feds can handle the process of economy. Experts are confusing with the development of interest rate and over-heated housing market. They will understand it if they view it from another angle.
And now you may understand why China can maintain its currency exchange rate without being punished. It's all about inflation. A low inflation will help the interest rate low. That's what Feds want.
2005-09-06 00:56 | User Profile
But which web-site did you copy from?
A simple request requires only a simple response.
Mentzer
2005-09-15 18:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]But which web-site did you copy from?
A simple request requires only a simple response.
Mentzer[/QUOTE]
It's not a copy. I am the author.
To keep the interest rate low, Feds also
Re: US real wages fall at fastest rate in 14 years By Christopher Swann in Washington May 10 2005 17:59
Real wages in the US are falling at their fastest rate in 14 years, according to data surveyed by the Financial Times. Inflation rose 3.1 per cent in the year to March but salaries climbed just 2.4 per cent, according to the Employment Cost Index. In the final three months of 2004, real wages fell by 0.9 per cent.
[url]http://news.ft.com/cms/s/f269a8f4-c173-11d9-943f-00000e2511c8.html[/url]
(1) One obvious method is to reduce the price of automobile. The auto price plays an important role in inflation index. Be noticed that in recent two years, the price of automobiles hasn't risen. It even goes down despite the rising steel price. To maintain the inflation index low till the August plot, though exhausted, the auto manufacturers made a last ditch effort by pushing out "Employee discount" in July.
G.M. lost more than 1.1 billion in latest quarter in North America, overwhelming solid profit at financing unit GMAC and its operations in China, Europe and Latin America. Why G.M. could make a profit abroad but lost heavily in domestic market? Because its operation abroad is normal under economic principle while in US, it was operated under a twisted, artificial command. CEO of auto makers work not for the interest of share holders but for the interest of Inside Group.
(2) Keep the exchange rate of Chinese Yuen with US dollar.
Cheap merchandise from China keep US inflation low. But it also caused a large trade deficit with China which will hurt US economy in long run. For years, there is a big US and international pressure on China to urge it abandoning the fixed currency rate policy. China didn't follow. Because it is covertly supported by Inside Group. The threat of trade punishment is never carried out. Greenspan even defends China by saying that the appreciated Chinese Yuen has little help to improve US economy.
In early May, media reported that some financial firm predicted China would raise its currency value in mid May. One news among the reports caught my eye. It was a sentence: "Gold Sach firmly predicts that China will re-value its currency on May 18." For the first time it strengthened my belief that the re-value of Chinese currency related to a secret deal between the secret police of two countries. I knew Feds prefer the current situation of Chinese currency because it keeps US interest rate low. But did they have a secret deal?
I had thought 5/19(Thursday) was an action date of Feds. (H.A. letter of "overgrown tree" set the last date to fix was 5/19) The collaborate plan should be carried out at about same time. The most important thing was the word "Gold Sach". In my experience, stock market is another main cash register where Feds withdraw money from. In the period when stock went bull (1999-2000), I observed Gold Sach was the firm which gave signal to Feds in stock trading.(when to buy or sell) In my opinion, this firm has close relationship with Feds. It must have inside information that China would raise its currency value on 5/18.
May plot went sour. So did Gold Sach's prediction.
Then it came 7/21, the second London bombing. There was no death this time because the master bombing in US didn't take place to the plan. It also came with the re-value of Chinese currency. A 2% adjustment, far from 10% to 15% which US demanded. Because US interest rate still has to be kept in low. But it confirms my belief: They had relationship to the plan of D.O.J.
2005-09-25 22:31 | User Profile
Fourteen months ago, when Federal benchmark interest rate was at 45 years low of 1%, the interest of 10 year bond (Federal treasure 10 year note) was 4.8% and the 30 year mortgage rate was about 5.6%. After Federal interest rate being raised from 1% to 3.5%, the 10 year bond rate is about 4.3% and the 30 year mortgage rate is about 5.8%. Either has little change or even has a drop.
To economic rule, long term interest rate always follows the track of short term rate. Now it is moving in a conflict way. Federal Reserve raised the interest rate 10 times, the median price of housing market goes to higher and higher. Economists puzzled. Even Alan Greenspan said that he does not have a good explanation why the long term interest rates fall when the Reserve has been raising short term rates.
Rare people know it's the work of Feds. (Inside group such like D.O.J., FBI and DEA) They hold a large quantity real estates so they resist any change that will influence rising house price. The tactic they used also include the following:
Keep the rate of 10 year Federal treasure note low by letting foreign countries (mainly Japan and China) buying a large quantities of US Treasuries. 10 year bonds is the main factor to influence the 30 years mortgage rate.
Expand the bond market of home mortgage. Japanese and Chinese government continually buy in the bonds issued by Gunnie Mae(US Government National Mortgage Association), Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Supply a large quantity of low interest fund to home mortgage company.
Japan is a puppet of US. It follows the order of Inside Group. China, has secret deal with Feds, collaborate in any side related to framed case.
There is always a purpose when a scandal revealed. We learned it from Lewinsky scandal and Watergate scandal. And the result of scandal on Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae helped to create a housing bubble. It developed a potential crisis that in this April Greenspan had to urge Congress to restrict the multi billion-dollar holdings of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, warning that their huge debt could imperil US financial markets.
A housing bubble is formed. It will dragged US economy into a quagmire in future. All for the interest of Feds.
2005-09-27 02:30 | User Profile
May I ask what part of the world you reside?
In general terms. For example: continent.
Mentzer
2005-10-05 19:36 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]May I ask what part of the world you reside?
In general terms. For example: continent.
Mentzer[/QUOTE]
The continent where they produce Patriot Act.
Explanation to (4) of "330. London bombing is a justification for coming US attack". Why did I relate Patriot meeting to the frame plot and Lond bombing.
I like reading. I went to library frequently when I had the drive license. The knowledge I learned from book helped me to resolve many puzzles.
I had bought a book from annual library book sale. "Spy catcher" is a candid autobiography of a Senior intelligence officer (British MI5) Peter Wright. (The book was published in 1987, New York). In it Wright talked about how they tried to catch the spy by contaminating the secret document with radioactive material. If the spy took the radioactive document through a check point, it would touch off a Geiger counter. Then spy could be caught. Wright admitted that the radiation would hurt people's health.
After my leg was hurt in second time, I realized it was not the problem of the muscle. I started to relate the hurt part of the leg to the back pocket where I kept money. It was Peter Wright's story reminded me of it was a radioactive money used for tracing. Later I knew the official term for that kind of money is "isotope money" when I complained to D.A.'s office. (see "3. ISOTOPE MONEY (How agent find cash savings at your home)"".
Another big one is E-M wave. (Electrical- Magnet wave). In early 90s I also found Feds had a technique to force people to sleep. I didn't know what was it. I could only speculate it was a radiation.
It was until about in 1997, I borrowed a book "CIA" from the library. When I read the story of how Soviet got a technique invented by Pentagon, I almost jumped up. So that was the sleep wave - an E-M wave imitated brain wave. (see "16. EM Sleep wave (5)")
I am a big target of Feds. It's natural they'll search where I went and what did I read. When D.O.J. demand a library record search in Patriot Act, I thought it was particularly for my case.
When I first started to write about my story in Internet, I found a strange phenomenon. I could see my messages when I logged in with my user's name but failed to see it with other's name. I confirmed it by the computer of my tenant who had a separate phone line and by the computer in public library. This is a tactic of covert censorship. The poster thought his message could be seen publicly while as a matter of fact nobody could read it except himself. I was once puzzled why Feds hadn't controlled the phone line of my tenant and library which gave me a chance to find their trick. Then the demand of D.O.J. in Patriot Act explained it.
Normally FBI must apply a warrant to monitor a specific phone line from judge. In Patriot Act, they demanded the surveillance power be expanded to all phone lines target used. Thus they can connect their control server to all lines. Even I click into a new line, I still got a fake phenomenon. Then their secret wouldn't be revealed.
In last passage of article "Patriot Act supported", Mercury News on 7/22 wrote, "Although 16 provisions of the Patriot Act are set to expire, most of the congressional debate has focused on a few sections. They include one allowing the FBI to seize records from financial companies, libraries, doctors' offices and other businesses, and another that permits "roving wiretaps"that apply to a person rather than a particular telephone."
Mercury News is a local media. I view it as a propaganda tool of Feds. It was not a coincidence that it picked up the two from all 16 provisions - the two I think were particularly proposed on my case. It is an intimidation and a power show-off. But it also proved what I said is correct. In "327. London bombing (7/12/05)" I said "I think it was the work of D.O.J." The later development of July 21 second London bombing and events occurred the same day confirmed it. (see "330. London bombing is a justification for coming US attack (7/27/05)")
2005-10-14 22:02 | User Profile
Explanation to (2) of "330. London bombing is a justification for coming US attack". Why did I relate the rain on 7/21 to the frame case and London bombing. The unusual rain was used to urge the sprouting of marihuana in a framed case. Be noticed that I talked about the rain six weeks before second London bombing.
In early May, a news in mainstream media caught my eye.
Re: "Feds sound new warning about marijuana use 5/3/2005, 4:06 p.m. ET By PAULINE JELINEK The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -
Government officials say recent research makes a stronger case that smoking marijuana is itself a causal agent in psychiatric symptoms, particularly schizophrenia."
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"Marijuana Becomes Focus of Drug War Less Emphasis on Heroin and Cocaine By Dan EggenWashington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, May 4, 2005; Page A01
The focus of the drug war in the United States has shifted significantly over the past decade from hard drugs to marijuana, which now accounts for nearly half of all drug arrests nationwide, according to an analysis of federal crime statistics released yesterday."
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/03/AR2005050301638.html?nav=mb[/url]
Pre-psychological propaganda preparation is a must in Feds' framed case. I thought this propaganda would set another case on me. Since I started this thread to reveal crime Feds committed, I suffered personal attack: malicious ridicules, intimidation; scorn; smear...... Recently I was repeatedly labeled "schizophrenic" in some web sites which coincides with the "marijuana" report. I think they came from same source. Link it with another notice from Homeowners' Association, (see "312. Things sensitive") I thought there is a new frame case set up right after the April plot going soured.
The Homeowner's Association required me to trim overgrown trees before 5/19. I think Feds planned to find some "trace of marijuana" in yard trash and with it as justification, having a search. It is easy to plant marijuana in my backyard. There are indications that Feds set up such a case. I'll talk about it next time.
On 3/15, Homeowners' Association (H.A.) gave me a notice, instructed me to fix garage door before 4/17 or face a fine. I thought that's the plot of Feds. They intended to guise as garage door contractor to have an unreasonable search and arrest. I fixed the garage door by myself. Then on 4/19, another notice from H.A. required me to trim the tree. They set the final day on 5/19. So I knew there would be another case framed around that date. But what kind of case would they frame this time?
I noticed there was an unusual wet days in this period. On 4/27, Mercury News reported: "April showers, thunder, hail in forecast". "This year's rainy season just won't let up. While the classic ending comes mid-April. .... San Jose hasn't seen a season this wet since 1997-98."
On 5/10, it said, "Unusual storm sets a record for May 9 rainfall.". "Is it supposed to rain in May? San Jose usually sees some rain in May, though rarely very much." It posted two pictures to illustrate how the thunderstorm and hailstones formed. And a chart of May rainfall in 55 years. It only made the thing extraordinary unusual. It followed the way of cover up Feds always used. In meningitis case and San Jose Mayor Gonzalez's stroke case, the news report came with chart of brain to illustrate how disease happened. In the cases plotted by Feds they used to post extra picture to persuade people that all were taken place naturally. That's part of psychological influence.
Because Feds used rainy days to control frame case, (I allege they plant drugs in umbrella shipment which is a merchandise my brother in law running) so I set an eye on it if something unusual happened. Though news said that classical rainy season ended in mid-April, I recorded an unusual wet month after that. Between 4/19 to 5/19, the one month time H.A.requested me to trim the tree, there were 14 days fore-casted rainy day. The last day forecasted rainy was 5/19, coincided with H.A.'s final day. Since then there was no more rain. Is that wonderful? I can only say, Feds planned their project too perfect.
One thing puzzled me was that why they dragged the rain days that long. In early May the news on marijuana solved my problem.(see #316) With other indications, I realized Feds might have planted marijuana in my yard. With continued rain, they wish the marijuana seeds would sprout and grow up. They force me to trim tree by H.A. to prove I did the yard work. And they might claim they found trace of marijuana in yard trash (leaves and branches) to start a search and arrest.
Than why the case soured? I guess there were too many weeds in the yard that marijuana couldn't compete with them. Or the soil was too barren for it. Only weeds survived in poor soil.
Four days ago on 6/3 H.A. gave me another letter. They still used "overgrown tree" need trim as justification even I had trimmed the tree already. The final date set at 7/1. Feds apparently is under pressure and has to repeat trick again and again. They didn't have any inspection for more than two years. And suddenly waked up to send me three notices within 4 months.
2005-10-24 22:43 | User Profile
A decade ago, I was charged by a dog several times. The dog rushed to me, looked like intending to bite my hand. I had to raise the hand high to avoid to be bit.
Later I thought the dog did not intend to attack. It was a dog trained to sniff the hand to see if it contaminated with drug. The dog looked ugly: crazy, thin, dirty, most of hair were off with pink skin exposed in the air. I was angry. Those agents abused the dog, harassed innocent people, carrying out such operation as their job. That dog obviously was heavy addicted, wouldn't live long.
In April and May this year, there were many rainy days. In mid-night, I often heard a dog whimpering. Until in early May when I have read the news of Marijuana (see #316), I then knew Feds framed the case a marijuana one. It solved my puzzle of unusual wet days and the sobbing dog. I think it was another dog trained to sniff the sprouting marijuana. The whimper of the dog reminded me of that heavy addicted dog Feds sent on me ten years ago.
I have a thread "How Feds murder people" in a web site Totse. I used to post follow up every ten days. In 5/5, I posted the follow up, saw the thread was lifted to the top of list, which meant new message was posted, I then left. On 5/16, when I came back, I didn't find the message I had posted last time.( As you see, they came with a serial number.) I thought I might have missed it last time, so I re-posted the missing message again. This time I noticed that though the thread was lifted to the top, there was no show of new posted message. I didn't know what happened and had to start a new thread "Strange thing".
On 6/5, I found the old thread was on top of the list. I clicked on it and found the latest messages I posted which once I couldn't see now were in display. Which put me in a very reluctant situation. Same messages repeatedly posted. There was also my complaint of "no show".
I have talked about that my computer was controlled by another server of Feds. I think they intercept the information of Internet and sent me the old image. Other people can see the whole one while I could only see the part of it. Other people would think I was insane when I made double post and complained of "no show" while they could see it. This is how Feds created a "schizophrenia" case.
Next time, when Feds show you marijuana (or drugs) found in the yard, it may be truth. Only the marijuana (or drugs) was planted by themselves. If they show you the fact that someone complained of "no show:" while you could see it, they might show you the true phenomenon. Only that fact was created by a technique trick.
Recently some of my serial thread in other web sites missed part of messages. Obviously at the purpose to create more "double post", or "illusive complaint". So much for the credit of FBI and DEA.
Now you will understand why on 5/3, news said, "Government officials say recent research makes a stronger case that smoking marijuana is itself a causal agent in psychiatric symptoms, particularly schizophrenia.". All this took place in the month (4/19 to 5/19) requested by letter of Homeowners' Association.
See that "schizophrenia post" at: "How Feds murder people" and "Strange thing"
[url]http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum8/HTML/000779-11.html[/url]
2005-11-04 22:39 | User Profile
To collaborate the September plot, Feds activates H.A. again. Ten days ago, I received a new notice which said,
"Enclosed you will find new procedures adopted by the Northvale Board of Directors for Dispute Resolution and Architectural Alterations....."
It announced new "Minimum landscaping requirements" which covers "All grounds visible to the public" and "Enclosed yards". It means now they will interfere the privacy of the backyards.
Of course, it came with intimidation: "Effective 60 days from the date of this letter (November 1, 2005), the Board of Directors will strictly enforce these guidelines. Owners found in violation will be subject to fines up to $50 per day until the Board of Directors is notified in writing that the violation has been corrected. In addition, the City of San Jose Code Enforcement Division may be notified in order to assist the Association in bringing a property into compliance."
The notice was from: Brad Fox, Association Manager PML Management Corporation, 655 Mariners Island Blvd. #301, San Mateo, Ca. 94404
Three years ago, H.A. had played same trick on me. I had called that man Brad Fox several times and even wrote a certified letter to him, but never got a reply. (see "95. A notice for a meeting") Now when Feds exhausted everything, they create new procedure and requirement to persecute.
I view that PML Management Corporation as a support group work for the Feds.
What is their purpose this time? Here is another notice from City Council member Chuck Reed I received about same time. It was a free offer. "The City of San Jose is providing free Rubbish & Metal bins at each dump site for household use to dump things you would normally pay to take to the dump." The date: Saturday, September 24, 2005.(Rain or shine)
Why on 9/24? Because I don't dump the rubbish. I am afraid Feds will plant in garbage to frame a case. It used to be done by my wife.
But she will leave on 9/22 for a trip. (see "339. The September plot (9/2/05)") A notice from H.A. forced a new requirement to clean the back yard before 11/1. City offers a free dumping in time on 9/24.
I don't think it was a coincidence. Feds arranged me to do the dumping work on 9/24. I believe they plan a framed case on that day.
In August, my wife prepared a Burma trip for Dr. Wang. (The trip was in later August) Since Dr. Wang is a target of Feds. (see #242.) and Burma is a drug output source, (In 2001 secret deal between Feds and Chinese secret police, the framed drug case was started from south west China, the source was from Burma, it's obvious) I think Feds is preparing another big drug case.
Then I saw most of my family members were arranged in a trip in mid-September. A sister who wouldn't join the trip got sick. My wife was invited for a trip between 9/22 to 9/29. And I was arranged for a dumping on 9/24 which is part of a framed case.
The Feds' plan is clear. A big drug case is framed to break off on 9/24. Arrest will be carried out on that day. All other of my family members will be eliminated in a travel accident a week ago. To make the accident not so unusual, within a month there were at least four big airplane crash. And of course, if the framed case goes on successfully, on 9/24 there will be a big terror attack in US to distract. In former messages, I have repeatedly talk about this tactic. There is a similarity this time too.
Have you ever noticed that there will be a big anti-war protest on 9/24? Is that a coincidence? No, it's not. We know FBI infiltrate almost every organization. It is said the leadership of US Communist Party is controlled by FBI. Without the financial aid from FBI, US Communist Party can't survive. So it's natural that the leadership of anti-war movement are infiltrated by FBI too. Is 9/24 a particular day? No. Why it is selected for demonstration? Because Feds arranges a big terror attack on that day. It will not only distract the public attention from a framed case, but also will humiliate the anti-war movement to prove Bush is political correct.
The same tactic has been used last year in 6/19 plot. (see 6/19/04 plot at 232, 233,236, 237) Here I repeat a paragraph I wrote one year ago.
RE: 236. Help puppet Bush (6/24/04)
There are two events in June which I think were arranged deliberately at this time.
One is the Michael Moore's "9/11 Fahrenheit" will open to public on 6/25. Which will give a negative image for Bush. If there is a big bombing taking place on 6/19 or a little later, then the film will be neglected by public.
Another event was the report issued by 911 investigation commission which said there is no credible evidence that Saddam and Al-Qaida had cooperated to attack US. The panel disputes Bush's reasons to invade Iraq. It was reported by media on 6/17. This, too, could be neglected if there was a big attack taking place on 6/19.