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Thread ID: 19230 | Posts: 20 | Started: 2005-07-20
2005-07-20 11:33 | User Profile
[url]http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/eo/20050601/111768402000.html[/url]
**"Rambo" Back on Duty ** Wednesday June 1 8:47 PM ET
Rambo is coming out of hiding and looking for some fresh blood.
After a 17-year layoff, Sylvester Stallone is ready to reprise his role as everyone's favorite muscle-bound Green Beret for a fourth installment in the popular 1980s film franchise.
After protracted legal wrangling, the rights to Rambo were snapped up in 1997 by Miramax's genre division, Dimension Films. But a planned Rambo IV stalled. Now, with Miramax heads Harvey and Bob Weinstein exiting Disney, they have sold the sequel rights for the intrepid character to Nu Image/Millennium Films, and the project is finally moving forward.
In addition to breaking the old red bandanna out of mothballs, Stallone, 58, will write the screenplay.
"I've signed the deal and I have the old headband, machine gun and bow and arrow ready to go. I am looking forward to showing movie fans the real action hero again," Stallone said in a statement.
Stallone, who earned an Oscar nomination for writing the original Rocky and who has directed such flicks as Staying Alive and Rocky V, compared Rambo IV to such 1970's revenge classics as Straw Dogs and Deliverance.
The sequel opens with our brooding Vietnam vet finally settling down with a wife and child, while still working for the military. (Sadly, Richard Crenna, who costarred in the three previous installments as Rambo's longtime commander, Colonel Samuel Trautman, will be MIA from the new sequel, havingdied in 2003.)
**Though he's "assimilated into the tapestry of America," workplace stress forces Rambo to leave the big city and move his family to the boonies. Their lives are upended however by white supremacists unhappy about a part-Navajo man moving into the area. When the racists take Rambo's 10-year-old daughter hostage, dad is forced back into action to rescue her. **
According to Stallone, the new film will be similar in tone to the "character-driven" franchise-launching First Blood (1982), in which Rambo uses his battle-honed skills to get even with a small-town sheriff, as opposed to the more cartoonish action-packed sequels. Rambo: First Blood Part II (1985) was the blockbuster film of the series, featuring Rambo returned to Vietnam to rescue fellow POWs; 1988's Rambo III found our hero battling the Soviet army with the help of Afghan guerrillas.
If Rambo is able to tap into moviegoers' rah-rah nationalist fervor that made him so popular during Reaganmania of the '80s, Nu Image boss Avi Lerner promises more first blood adventures.
"It's a franchise," Lerner says. "If number four works, then you have a number five."
That’s not the only collaboration the company has with Stallone. **Nu Image is also developing a Stallone script on the life of famed poet Edgar Allen Poe. Stallone also plans to direct the film. (Quoth the raven: "Yo!") **
Stallone's recent stab at reality TV as cohost of NBC's The Contender wasn't successful, getting canceled after one lackluster season. He also has been working on a new Rocky installment, but that project hasn't managed to get off the drawing board. Now, he's hoping that revisiting Rambo will help resurrect his once mighty career.
Rambo IV is slated to start lensing in Sofia, Bulgaria in January before moving on to locations in India and the U.S. A release is being targeted for either late 2006 or early 2007.
2005-07-20 11:42 | User Profile
Some how I think that Stallone will appear to look the same way that Kirk Douglas did in the awful and forgettable "Something is wrong on Saturn Five". I don't think this is going to work.
2005-07-20 12:59 | User Profile
White supremacists -- of course! Or an alternative plot would be Rambo going to Israel to help the IDF fight evil Arabs.
2005-07-20 13:10 | User Profile
Their lives are upended however by white supremacists unhappy about a part-Navajo man moving into the area.
This stuff doesn't exist in real life. If I was a "part-Navajo" I would find the premise to this movie insulting.
2005-07-20 13:19 | User Profile
And the next Rambo film, [B]Rambo V[/B], will feature Rambo avenging his wife's kidnapping by a Frenchman, forcing Rambo to go to France and kick some frog-ass baby! Yet Rambo is frustrated because the French want to "appease" him with good Camebert and Red Bordeaux and even offer Rambo a menage ÃÂ trois with two redheads!
Rambo at first welcomes this, since after he defeated the dreaded White Supremacists in Rambo IV he just wanted some time to relax and take time off. Eventually, Rambo frustrated at failing to master conjugating French verbs and discovers that the this French village is secretly supporting the Front National and secretly burning Israeli flags, machine guns the entire village, save one friendly cow where all the good cheese came from.
I mean Nu Image boss [B]Avi Lerner [/B]could definitely buy that one no? Should I pitch it to him? He wants to continue the Rambo series right?
2005-07-20 14:09 | User Profile
Or they could make it a horror movie, and square Rambo off against Stallone's mother (man-like kike Jackie Stallone nee Lebofish).
The one thing I'm indebted to Howard Stern for: during an interview with Jackie S, he asked, "Stallone isn't your real name, it's your name through marriage. What was it originally?"
She croaked, "Lee-bo-fish", and without missing a beat, Stern replied, "Why, what an enchanting name!"
2005-07-20 14:23 | User Profile
XM,
I like it! In fact, I like it so much here's my contribution! Why stop with the French? We can work the Germans in too! Afterall, they didn't help us in the "war on terror", so here is an opportunity to bash the krauts on film. You can work in the world wide Neo-Nazi movement in alliance with the FN and have the Mossad attempting to shadow them when Rambo runs into them by accident. We can have a beautiful Mossad Officer fall in love with Rambo so we have the mandatory "love scene"- nah, skip that. The ADL is mad about intermarriage, so you'll have to work in a shiksa somehow, maybe as an agent following a guilt over discovering her father was a klansman. Have Jonah Godberg or John Podhoretz made a cameo apperance as the Mossad officer attempting to locate a nuke. (idea: find the "destructo" bomb prop from that episode of Get Smart!) Rambo can not only raze this French village, he can also level Berlin for good measures. Get Rannity and Rush to promote it and you'll have the theaters filled with "dittoheads" and "freepers" standing in their seats yelling at the top of their lungs.
2005-07-20 14:44 | User Profile
Holliwitz zhids are completely out of their minds already.
2005-07-20 14:45 | User Profile
Sert, lol! But, Sert, [B]Avi Lerner [/B]would definitely want a sex scene in any movie he puts out...standard protocol for his type of entertainment. Maybe Poddy in a leash and shackles getting whipped by the evil but buxom German blond woman seductress who's just about to "peg" him....but Rambo saves the day after beating up the evil blond German "neo-nazi" commando and torturing out of him the truth of Poddy's whereabouts!
IR, I will admit that jew Howard Stern can be so wickedly funny sometimes but I rarely tune into him nowadays.
2005-07-20 15:20 | User Profile
[url]http://www.dailyjews.com/index.php?cat=7[/url]
[QUOTE]2. Is she or isnââ¬â¢t she? While most of the world was fixated by Jacqueline Stalloneââ¬â¢s enhanced lips during her stay in the Big Brother house, what SJ was more obsessed with was her Jewish connections. It seems that Sylvester Stalloneââ¬â¢s mum was told by the KGB that she is somewhat connected to the tribe. Her grandmother, Rosa Rabinovich, used to live in Odessa ââ¬â and as we all know, Rabinovich is a very Jewish name. Jackie gave a further clue to her origins when she was evicted from the house, shouting what sounded like ââ¬ËMazeltovââ¬â¢ on her departure ââ¬â and as eager readers should know, itââ¬â¢s a common Jewish trait to say Mazeltov as a passing put-me-down.[/QUOTE]
2005-07-20 15:56 | User Profile
Rambo is coming out of hiding and looking for some fresh blood.
First Blood was an OK, if uncomplicated, movie. Your standard boilerplate "lone resourceful man against overwhelming odds" type deal, but the best argument against Rambo IV is....Rambos 2 and 3, not to mention Stallone/Lebofish's rapidly geriatrifying frame.
Nu Image is also developing a Stallone script on the life of famed poet Edgar Allen Poe. Stallone also plans to direct the film. (Quoth the raven: "Yo!")
Oh, man, that kills me! Wait, you're not joking? :thumbd: Is this another of Stallone's attempts to whip up some kind of intellectual bona fides? He should stick to an occasional appearance in spectacles and call it a day, for I think the effort will overtax him, even fortified with a raw-egg shake, nu?
2005-07-20 16:24 | User Profile
Will Rambo go looking for Osama bin Laden?
Will Rambo go to NY to find those guilty of 9/11?
Was RAmbo in the Pentagon when the missile hit it?
"De Oppresso Liber" will Rambo go after Sharon in order to free the Palestinians?????
Or will he go to Iraq as an "advisor"?
And look for "Rambo IX" filmed in 2025 with Stallone in a super wheel chair.
I dind't know that he was 58, man hes old.
2005-07-20 16:53 | User Profile
KKK kidnapping some white guy's son in protest of a part-Indian moving into the neighborhood. Obviously, a plot inspired by headlines. Or, not. If it were from the headlines, it would be Rambo goes up against an 80-year-old white supremacist with two broken legs, accused of taking part in a crime no one claims he attended 40 years ago.
If Soviet Union were Muslim, black, or Jewish, there would never have been any anti-Communist movies. Rambo 1, 2, and 3 would have been about white supremacists, white drug lords, and white megalomaniacs. The James Bond franchise would have been stillborn.
2005-07-20 16:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MadScienceType]Oh, man, that kills me! Wait, you're not joking? :thumbd: Is this another of Stallone's attempts to whip up some kind of intellectual bona fides? He should stick to an occasional appearance in spectacles and call it a day, for I think the effort will overtax him, even fortified with a raw-egg shake, nu?[/QUOTE]
Actually, it's no joke. Stallone has been trying to sell this one for at least 20 years. Originally he wanted to [I]play [/I] Poe.
When asked - naturally - [U]why[/U], he responded, "I think the guy's been getting a bum rap for years and it's time to set the record straight." Hand to God.
ANNA- BEEEELL! [I]Don't do it, Metzengerstein; you can't win![/I]
2005-07-21 15:42 | User Profile
Claim: One of Sylvester Stallone's first screen efforts was a starring role in a porn film. Status: True.
[url]http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/stallone.htm[/url]
Origins: Sylvester Stallone did indeed get his first movie acting role in a porn movie, called Party at Kitty and Stud's. This movie came out in 1970, when Sly was but 24 years old, living in Hell's Kitchen, New York City, and working a variety of menial jobs (including cinema usher) while trying to break into the movies. At that time New York City was the hub of U.S. porn film making. Stallone is the leading man in this X film, and he later acknowledged in a Playboy interview that he was paid $200 for his role. Unlike his efforts in later films, Stallone seems to have had no part in directing or producing Party at Kitty and Stud's.
Stallone made the most of his break, quickly entering mainstream movies with a role in Woody Allen's Bananas the next year. He appeared in six more films before 1976's Rocky, the role that shot him right to the top. The canny Sicilian wrote the script for Rocky and sold it for a very low price, on the condition that he star in the movie and receive a share of the profits. Rocky went on to win three Oscars, including best picture. It made Stallone's movie career.
Whoever owned the rights to Party at Kitty and Stud's capitalized on Stallone's new-found fame by re-releasing it under the title The Italian Stallion (presumably a reference to the protagonist's nickname in Rocky). The credits show that the rights to this X film are owned by "Stallion Enterprises," so they took this theme all the way.
Party at Kitty and Stud's/The Italian Stallion started life as a genuine pornographic X film, though it has been brutally edited down -- probably at the time it was retitled and re-released. There is a new prologue where it is implied that they took out the really fun dirty bits for the re-release. It now completely lacks any semblance of a plot and all hard-core exhibitions, so it is somewhat hard to follow. For example, a large mastiff dog appears at one point, but disappears equally as rapidly, leaving the viewer confused about what was to happen next. Party at Kitty and Stud's seems hilariously dated in some ways, too, as it is rife with 60's slang.
At one point Kitty confides to one of her friends that Stud is "so far out" and "animalistic". At another point Sly enjoins Kitty to "be careful! You bit me last time." Kitty replies, "I'll be velvet-mouthed on your shank of love!" before dissolving into an unscripted fit of giggles only partially concealed by burying her head on Stallone's shank of love. Stallone's best scenes are the ones where he is naked (which is nearly all of them). The highpoint of the film is probably Stallone's helping three women, one after the other, although all the overt details are edited out, leaving just the moaning and groaning.
Sly-connoisseurs will note that he has a four-inch scar on his left thigh under his butt. Far from being a stallion, Sly is actually a man of quite ordinary, even modest, endowment. His muscular frame, lacking its customary coat of oil, is unimpressive. Some people claim to see undertones of Rocky in Party at Kitty and Stud's, but I couldn't detect any myself, unless they mean the scene where Sly lightly beats Kitty with his pants belt. Sly lacks his trademark sneer and talks normally in Party at Kitty and Stud's.
It is not unknown for a porn movie performer to cross over into mainstream cinema. Traci Lords has now renounced her porn film past, and can be seen in minor roles on television, such as a dental assistant on "Married With Children."
2005-07-22 06:10 | User Profile
This movie sounds like a Libertarian dream! Next to Neo from The Matrix, Rambo is their anti-authortarian hero. Racism is evil! Open all borders! Freedom of movement for all!
2005-08-28 15:27 | User Profile
[FONT=Arial][COLOR=Purple][B][I] - "When asked - naturally - why, he responded, "I think the guy's been getting a bum rap for years and it's time to set the record straight." Hand to God."[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT]
Actually Michael A. Hoffman seems to agree with Stallone that Poe has been getting a "bum rap":
[url]http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/911/Robert.htm[/url]
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"1849. October, 7. [B]Edgar Allan Poe [/B] was murdered by a blow to the head. [U][B]Poe was not a drunk or drug addict as history would lead you to believe and did not die from a drug overdose[/B]. [/U] (John F. Courtney, M.D. Addiction and Edgar Allan (sic) Poe, Resident and Staff Physician, January, 1971 p. 107-115). [B]Poe was exposing the Mason's through many of his short stories. It was inevitable that Poe would not only run afoul of the festering secret society's but end a victim of their 'arguments'.[/B] He was not a passive recipient, and he did his best to immortalize a searing indictment in Masonry in at least four of his short stories.
2.[B]The Devil in the Belfry[/B]. Published in The Philadelphia Saturday Chronicle of May 18, 1839. Poe satirizes president Martin Van Buren and his corrupt political machine in New York. (Poe's Political Satire, University of Texas studies in English, 35, 1956, 81-95-Burton R. Pollin, City University of New York)
[B]Mellonta Tauta[/B]. This criticizes the aura of sanctimony which surrounds Mason George Washington, specifically in a tedious "George Washington cornerstone ceremony" Washington actually laid the cornerstone to the Capitol building in a full Masonic regalia and there is a widely circulated painting of this event. Washington's Masonic Apron
[B]Never Bet The Devil Your Head[/B]. This is Poe's most gruesome portrayal of Masonry and has some parallel to a well-known Masonic story - Kipling's "The Man Who Would Be King" in which esoteric bridge-symbolism forms an important backdrop. The man does not take the advice Poe's story offers and looses his head on a covered bridge. Royal Arch Masonry is obsessed with bridge symbolism (Princess Diana was murdered under a covered bridge) to the same extent that the Masonic grade of Ninth degree is up to it's neck in decapitation ritual.
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Petr
2005-08-28 16:38 | User Profile
No sooner did I see Petr adding a comment to this weeks-old thread than I knew it was going to relate to Masonic malfeasance.
Honest, you're like a kid with a new cap gun who won't put it away after annoying everyone with it for days and days.
And Masons killed Princess Di too? Talk about your Protestant work ethic. Don't these people ever take a lunch hour even?
2005-08-28 17:36 | User Profile
[COLOR=Red][FONT=Arial][I][B] - "Honest, you're like a kid with a new cap gun who won't put it away after annoying everyone with it for days and days."[/B][/I][/FONT][/COLOR]
And I honestly knew that you would offer some smarty-pants soundbite like this...
Petr
2005-08-28 21:58 | User Profile
Please No! [QUOTE]Thatââ¬â¢s not the only collaboration the company has with Stallone. Nu Image is also developing a Stallone script on the life of famed poet Edgar Allen Poe. Stallone also plans to direct the film.[/QUOTE]
I like Edgar Allen Poe, I would hate to Sylvester Stallone play him in a film! I do not like Stallone he is jusy creepy somehow.