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Thread ID: 19116 | Posts: 30 | Started: 2005-07-12
2005-07-12 17:43 | User Profile
[url="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162087,00.html"]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162087,00.html[/url]
This article states that Congress is having to listen to citizens about illegals. They try to have hometown forums on social security and nobody wants to talk about it, instead it's "what about illegals?".
2005-07-12 19:02 | User Profile
The heat is slowly beginning to rise, thanks in large measure to Lou Dobbs of CNN, Tom Tancredo, Brimelow and his VDare, and other forces. Keep pushing it! My fear is that Congress will lean more on "soft" measures like increased funding for border patrol --- instead of say, paying border patrol agents by the number of illegals deported. Now THAT would be reform.
Folks, my prediction of the ascendancy of illegal immigration as THE top issue of the '08 presidential race, if it comes true (and it's looking that way), would without a doubt be a sign a true conservative renaissance, and hopefully, the beginnings of heard-round-the-world white advocacy.
:gunsmilie
2005-07-13 01:04 | User Profile
Bluebonnet - keep us Texans posted if you hear of any forums around here.
2005-07-13 02:42 | User Profile
I second mwdallas. I want to give these jerks an earful.
What does social security matter when there won't be a country left in which to cash those pathetic checks?
2005-07-13 03:26 | User Profile
Border control alone won't solve it. Raiding employers and placing cucarachas in labor camps motivating their return to their native shitholes would do much better.
2005-07-13 08:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=madrussian]Border control alone won't solve it. Raiding employers and placing cucarachas in labor camps motivating their return to their native shitholes would do much better.[/QUOTE]
No border control alone will not solve it, but its a damn good step in the right direction. Complete closure of the porous sections of the border will not only eliminate the future immigration of tens of millions of illegals, it may also prevent the unthinkable from happening -see the following news link for more on what I mean by "unthinkable":
[url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45203[/url]
"Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S."
I'm not so sure about the source qouted in the above article, but its a definite possibility and there is no excuse at all for our government not to respond accordingly! It is, afterall, the primary duty of the Federal government and military to defend our borders from invasion.
K
2005-07-13 08:50 | User Profile
Mexico has always been known for looking out for our best interests...
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2005-07-13 12:43 | User Profile
Justin,
Mexico and Wall Street too. One hand washes the other.
2005-07-13 17:14 | User Profile
Reasons why DC won't be listening to us...
[url="http://biz.yahoo.com/special/illegal05.html"]http://biz.yahoo.com/special/illegal05.html[/url] Banks be makin money.
[url="http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19131"]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19131[/url]
New World Order.
2005-07-14 01:41 | User Profile
Here are a few cute ideas from "US Border Control" :
Dear Border Control Activist:
Both political parties are conducting major fundraising campaigns throughout the Summer.
It's a great opportunity to let them know that they won't get one thin dime from you unless and until to close our borders and oppose all amnesty programs. Already, the telephone fundraisers are getting an earful from donors who are complaining bitterly about immigration issues. But they need to hear it again and again.
Sad to say, but, in Washington, it's all about money. And if the Republican and Democrat fundraisers get the message that the money is drying up because Americans are disgusted with their policies on immigration, things can and will change.
Here's what you can do today:
"WHEN YOU CLOSE THE BORDERS, I'LL OPEN MY WALLET!"
Say the same thing to any political telemarketers.
Email the same message to all the political arms of the political parties:
RNC at [url="http://www.rnc.org/"]www.rnc.org[/url] ; the NRCC at [url="http://www.nrcc.org/"]www.nrcc.org[/url] ; the NRSC at [url="http://www.nrsc.org/"]www.nrsc.org[/url]
Email the DNC at [url="http://www.democrats.org/"]www.democrats.org[/url] ; the DSCC at [url="http://www.dscc.org/"]www.dscc.org[/url] ; the DCCC at [url="http://www.dccc.org/"]www.dccc.org[/url]
Tell the Republicans that they will lose control of the House and the Senate if they continue to support open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.
Tell the Democrats they will never regain control of either the House or the Senate unless they wake up and listen to hte 90% of all Americans who want to seal our borders against drugs, disease, illegal migration and terrorism.
2005-07-14 20:07 | User Profile
For first timers illegaly comming across? return back to Mex.
Second time? two weeks labor camp working on road work.
Third time? one months.
Forth time? three monts.
Fifth time? six months.
And so on........
The US would have the best roads in the world.
For the women? making the uniforms for the work camps and uniforms for the military, that way they would not have to be made in China. :hitler:
2005-07-14 21:09 | User Profile
Ponce, baby. I just watched some a$$hole from Kansas on C-Span named Tiahrt talk about a connection between American labor and your pals Castro and Chavez.
Naturally, this butthole from Kansas, thinks that Americans should send more of our jobs and industries to Central America via the Cafta trade treaty...and take into the US more of your Spanish-mestizo distant cousins and other jungle folks from Central America...naturally this A$$hole Tiahart expects White Americans like me to pay for all of this Republicoon do-gooderism.
This hemorrhoid Tiahrt wonders why American workers and their unions would object to Cafta? If Tiahrt wants to call names...
2005-07-14 21:39 | User Profile
I think TT is motivated by none other than the Good Lord.
Kris Kobach is a good one out of Kansas --- he brought the (currently unsuccessful) lawsuit on behalf of American citizens who have to pay out-of-state tuition at U. of K. schools while illegals pay in-state rates. Also ran for Congress, lost to a D. Law prof at UMKC in Missouri. Has neocon tendencies but good on the immigration issue.
2005-07-14 22:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln]I think TT is motivated by none other than the Good Lord.
Kris Kobach is a good one out of Kansas --- he brought the (currently unsuccessful) lawsuit on behalf of American citizens who have to pay out-of-state tuition at U. of K. schools while illegals pay in-state rates. Also ran for Congress, lost to a D. Law prof at UMKC in Missouri. Has neocon tendencies but good on the immigration issue.[/QUOTE] Yep..Tiahrt probably worships the golden sphincter of jew & the dee-fence contractor in his backyard.
2005-07-14 22:04 | User Profile
Step one is to close the borders.
Then we must take away every incentive fueling illegal immigration. To do that we:
1) Push legislation to make it illegal to give illegal aliens jobs, housing, or welfare benefits.
2) Punish all who break those laws by convicting them of aiding and abetting criminal activity.
3) Close the loophole in the law that automatically makes the offspring of illegals automatic "citizens" just by being on our soil when they are born. That is a travesty. Children of lawbreakers should not benefit from their parents criminal activity, and the current citizens and taxpayers should not have to pay for that burden.
4) Once all that is done, then we work on legislation to deport all the illegals currently here.
By using the courts and legislative system to chip away at the problems, we can gradually turn this country around.
2005-07-15 00:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE]My fear is that Congress will lean more on "soft" measures like increased funding for border patrol --- instead of say, paying border patrol agents by the number of illegals deported. Now THAT would be reform.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. True reform is repulsive as it may alienate those who fund the re-election campaigns of our masters. Bush wants amnesty. Libs just want the border wide-open, and the majority of Citizens want it closed. Guess who wins? BUSINESS LOBBY.
True Reform would be a $ 0.25 bounty on any illegal crossing the border, but they seem more intent on finding out if Rove "outed" some broad who hadn't been out of the country for 8 years. Go figure. Think our national priorities are out of order?
2005-07-15 01:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Pennsylvania_Dutch]Ponce, baby. I just watched some a$$hole from Kansas on C-Span named Tiahrt talk about a connection between American labor and your pals Castro and Chavez.
Naturally, this butthole from Kansas, thinks that Americans should send more of our jobs and industries to Central America via the Cafta trade treaty...and take into the US more of your Spanish-mestizo distant cousins and other jungle folks from Central America...naturally this A$$hole Tiahart expects White Americans like me to pay for all of this Republicoon do-gooderism.
This hemorrhoid Tiahrt wonders why American workers and their unions would object to Cafta? If Tiahrt wants to call names...[/QUOTE]
Dutch? people will do to you only what you allowed them to do to you, if you let your government then who's fault is it?
Look at the Jews in WWII when they asked "Which way to the nearest oven if you please? but first I would like to take a shower" (by the way, that shower bit was nothing but BULL)
Did you see "The Pianist" ? where the German colonel walked down the line shooting Jews at the top of their heads? I wont say anything else because I am getting pissed off..........HOW STUPIDDDDDD CAN THEY BE JUST TO LIE THERE AND WAIT TO BE SHOT, SPECIALLY THE LAST ONE.
2005-07-15 02:22 | User Profile
Ponce, the laws are on the books to arrest & deport foreign nationals who are in the USA illegally or under false pretense. What's lacking is enforcement.
Read this post again---this is how you put pressure on the political leadership and their jews:
Both political parties are conducting major fundraising campaigns throughout the Summer.
It's a great opportunity to let them know that they won't get one thin dime from you unless and until to close our borders and oppose all amnesty programs. Already, the telephone fundraisers are getting an earful from donors who are complaining bitterly about immigration issues. But they need to hear it again and again.
Sad to say, but, in Washington, it's all about money. And if the Republican and Democrat fundraisers get the message that the money is drying up because Americans are disgusted with their policies on immigration, things can and will change.
Here's what you can do today:
On every single solicitation you receive from your favorite political party, use their postage-paid reply to send them our message on immigration. Write on the reply form, IN BIG LETTERS,
"WHEN YOU CLOSE THE BORDERS, I'LL OPEN MY WALLET!"
Say the same thing to any political telemarketers.
Email the same message to all the political arms of the political parties:
RNC at [url="http://www.rnc.org/"]www.rnc.org[/url] ; the NRCC at [url="http://www.nrcc.org/"]www.nrcc.org[/url] ; the NRSC at [url="http://www.nrsc.org/"]www.nrsc.org[/url]
Email the DNC at [url="http://www.democrats.org/"]www.democrats.org[/url] ; the DSCC at [url="http://www.dscc.org/"]www.dscc.org[/url] ; the DCCC at [url="http://www.dccc.org/"]www.dccc.org[/url]
Tell the Republicans that they will lose control of the House and the Senate if they continue to support open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.
Tell the Democrats they will never regain control of either the House or the Senate unless they wake up and listen to hte 90% of all Americans who want to seal our borders against drugs, disease, illegal migration and terrorism.
4. Forward this email to all of your friends and urge them to help us regain control of our borders before it is too late.
<address dir="ltr">[email="ednelson@usbc.org"]ednelson@usbc.org[/email]</address> <address dir="ltr">[url="http://www.usbc.org/"]www.usbc.org[/url]
Btw, do you know the story of how Bismarck borrowed a train load of gold from the jews to create modern Germany?
2005-07-23 05:46 | User Profile
Great post!
2005-07-23 05:54 | User Profile
When I said great post, I was referring to your post Pennsylvania_Dutch.
2005-07-23 05:56 | User Profile
Pennsylvania Dutch, I have used tactics similar to some of those you suggest.
2005-07-26 07:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=jeffersonian] True Reform would be a $ 0.25 bounty on any illegal crossing the border, but they seem more intent on finding out if Rove "outed" some broad who hadn't been out of the country for 8 years. Go figure. Think our national priorities are out of order?[/QUOTE]
Not a bad idea, but I would raise the bounty to at least a buck a head and make it applicable to private civilians so I can be Arizona's next millionaire. Hell, I may just relocate to east Los Angeles under those circumstances!
Actually, true reform would be... I can't continue as I'm sure it would break forum posting policy. Use your imagination here.
K
2005-07-26 21:44 | User Profile
Seeing that nothing will get done unless folks in Washington get fed up with it. So I think we should start a national underground poster campaign. We right up posters, leaflets etc in Spanish stating things like: Go to Massachuesetts where people want to hire you. Heck we can even make fake jobs up and pass them out. Then when these folks are overrun with illegals maybe something will get done.
2005-07-26 22:07 | User Profile
I had some bumper stickers made:
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS BRING THEM HOME TO GUARD OUR BORDERS!
2005-07-26 22:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=BlueBonnet]Seeing that nothing will get done unless folks in Washington get fed up with it. So I think we should start a national underground poster campaign. We right up posters, leaflets etc in Spanish stating things like: Go to Massachuesetts where people want to hire you. Heck we can even make fake jobs up and pass them out. Then when these folks are overrun with illegals maybe something will get done.[/QUOTE]
Its funny you mentioned that BlueBonnet, I've also been contemplating ways of getting illegals to target Kennedy's home turf, lol. This is especially true since he is a cosponsor with our Sen. McCain on a amnesty bill for these illegals. Speaking of McCain, I'm currently trying to plant the seeds of a recall effort among AZ Republicans. Even if unsuccessful, a bitter recall effort may just dash his chances to win the Republican Presidential nomination in 2008.
K
2005-07-28 20:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=raider]When I said great post, I was referring to your post Pennsylvania_Dutch.[/QUOTE] Thank you.
Everyone can be their own lobbyist.
Keep in mind OD is a political discussion forum. Posting here should be considered practice for what you do in the real world. Not as a substitute for real world activity.
:smartass:
2005-07-28 22:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=BlueBonnet]Seeing that nothing will get done unless folks in Washington get fed up with it. So I think we should start a national underground poster campaign. We right up posters, leaflets etc in Spanish stating things like: Go to Massachuesetts where people want to hire you. Heck we can even make fake jobs up and pass them out. Then when these folks are overrun with illegals maybe something will get done.[/QUOTE]Too late, this has already happened. Nothing is being done.
2005-08-01 21:58 | User Profile
[url="http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=3659879&nav=AbC0cmGJ"]http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=3659879&nav=AbC0cmGJ[/url] 07.29.05 Website Reports Illegal Immigrants for a Fee [color=#000000]Jul 30, 2005, 7:53 PM[/color]
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Immigration advocates say the website is making a profit out of immigration fears, while the Border Patrol says it's a helpful tool. With a few quick key strokes and the click of a mouse anyone can report on suspected illegal immigrants in the community.
Additionally, residents can submit the name of an employer that they believe is knowingly hiring illegals. However, there is a catch, all this will be done for a $10 fee. Once the fee is paid, Report illegals.com will send the anonymous report to several US agencies including Homeland Security and the FBI
Ouisa Davis, an immigrant advocate tells ABC-7 that, "I have never seen this before...they are making profit off of fear." Ms. Davis adds that the website may be new, but the sentiment behind it is not.
The Border Patrol tells ABC-7 that its concern is that the website is charging a fee for a service the US Government offers for free. They also add that websites like these can be a "helpful tool."
The company that runs the website is called Jumpin' Jupiter, Inc." and they are based out of Pompano Beach (Fl). There was no phone number listed in Pompano Beach under the company name or address listed on the website.
ABC-7 also tried faxing and e-mailing the company, however they did not respond to our request for an interview.
2005-08-01 23:51 | User Profile
How about a bounty of $100.00 for each company that hires illegals? with a five dollar bounty per illegal working in such company.
But it won't do any good to do the above if the government don't take any action.
2005-08-02 17:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Ouisa Davis, an immigrant advocate tells ABC-7 that, "I have never seen this before...they are making profit off of fear." Ms. Davis adds that the website may be new, but the sentiment behind it is not.[/QUOTE]
No but they are making a profit AND providing a much needed function.
I Love This! Symbosis between profit and public service. I have always felt a bounty on illegals would be the perfect solution but until that day a site like this should be running in every state.
I wonder how good the cash flow is.....