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Thread ID: 19112 | Posts: 30 | Started: 2005-07-12
2005-07-12 07:34 | User Profile
I was just given a head's up by a brother here that Dr. Kevin MacDonald's seminal work, [u]The Culture of Critique[/u], has been fully translated into Russian and available at the following link in the pdf format:
[url]http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books.html[/url]
So one more major language barrier has been broken and I hope all of our international brethren especially will take the opportunity to futher spread this eye-opening book as far and wide as possible. Consider it a small duty in the service to our kith and kin throughout the world.
2005-07-12 13:41 | User Profile
Rogozin is the first to download...
[url]http://news.monstersandcritics.com/mediamonitor/article_1020595.php/Russian_nationalist_leader_calls_for_uprising_against_oligarchic_slavery[/url]
[I]The leader of Russia's Motherland party, Dmitriy Rogozin, has defended the language he used when recently calling for sweeping political changes in the country.
On Russia TV's "Details" interview slot on 23 June, presenter Dmitriy Kiselev told Rogozin "many people had been scared off" by the words "uprising" and "revolution", and the phrases "slay the dragon" and "chimera of liberalism", which he had used in his 11 June speech to a Motherland congress.
Rogozin said he had not meant "an uprising of workers and peasants and revolutionary sailors and the [cruiser] Avrora firing at the Winter Palace".
"We've been through that. But in terms of the depth of the changes Russia needs now, of course one can say that we want a review of the policies being conducted in Russia today, a fundamental change in social policy. We don't want this massive gap between rich and poor. We don't want the oligarchs - who have lined people's pockets with their money and believe that this alone allows them to run Russia - to rule us," Rogozin explained.
"We are a free and democratic country. In the final analysis we elect the authorities so that they should impose law and order in the country. So: the imposition of law and order, freedom of speech, social justice, protection of Russian producers. A return to these things is an uprising against oligarchic slavery. So I expressed my views quite clearly."
Rogozin launched an attack on "forces outside the country who want to mix everything up in Russia, create chaos and see a knife-fight here". He criticized "forces in Washington today which we describe as chauvinistic and which believe that the American model of democracy is universal and can be imposed on everyone and that this has to be done for naive and foolish people, by force of arms if necessary". [/I]
2005-07-12 13:57 | User Profile
What we need is a release of the PTSDA, SAID, CofC triology in leather-bound or hard-back. The paperbacks don't do it justice.
2005-07-12 16:04 | User Profile
This could prove to be a major political event. Russia has shown that it is perhaps the only European nation willing to stand up to the international bankers and power brokers, and Professor MacDonald's work could be explosive.
2005-07-12 16:31 | User Profile
Maybe the same translator can do Solzhenitsyn now?
2005-07-12 16:46 | User Profile
Wow -- this is great news!
Hugh -- the trilogy was available only in hardback until 2002/2003, but they were pricy at $65 a pop (though I got CofC from MacDonald directly -- an author's copy, which saved me $20). It may still be available in hardback. Pictures of the hardcovers are found at the link in TD's post (although for some reason, my copy of SAID is a different color from that pictured).
2005-07-12 18:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=mwdallas]Wow -- this is great news!
Hugh -- the trilogy was available only in hardback until 2002/2003, but they were pricy at $65 a pop (though I got CofC from MacDonald directly -- an author's copy, which saved me $20). It may still be available in hardback. Pictures of the hardcovers are found at the link in TD's post (although for some reason, my copy of SAID is a different color from that pictured).[/QUOTE]
I remember once seeing a copy of SAID, the middle one, on the Internet for $400. Yikes. I didn't end up spending that much, myself. It's actually quite an accomplishment to have actually READ all three, paperback or othewise. Think of MacDonald's contribution in actually WRITING the damn things!
2005-07-13 00:59 | User Profile
The hardcover of SAID is available in "as new" condition for $65 from abebooks, a very reliable seller:
[url]http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=413776600&an=MacDonald,+Kevin&tn=Separation+and+Its+Discontents+:+Toward+an+Evolutionary+Theory+of+Anti-Semitism[/url]
2005-07-13 01:03 | User Profile
It's actually quite an accomplishment to have actually READ all three, paperback or othewise.
I read the first book last, and I used to take it with me when I visited a girlfriend of mine, from Greenwich, CT. I made slow progress, until she finally asked what the big deal was with the book. Her exact words: "They're a cohesive group", like it was the most obvious thing in the world -- the ultimate four-word summary of PTSDA. Smart girl.
2005-07-13 03:37 | User Profile
Here on OD y'all understand the importance of this.
Over on SF, nary a nod of recognition :frown:
Except, of course, from JJT.
2005-07-13 05:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Yggdrasil]Here on OD y'all understand the importance of this.
Over on SF, nary a nod of recognition :frown:
Except, of course, from JJT.[/QUOTE]What do Stormfronters need CoC for? They've already got [I]the Protocols[/I] and Mein Kampf.
.:wacko: :hitler:
2005-07-13 07:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]What do Stormfronters need CoC for? They've already got [I]the Protocols[/I] and Mein Kampf.[/QUOTE]
Maybe that's a reason why Don Black has graciously placed OD as a featured link at SF for quite some time now. Sure we here can see a better path than MK, but maybe a good number of young men are getting their first exposure to resources like CofC via said link. I can't see how that's a negative and I hope that our community here at OD will be a positive influence in that direction.
2005-07-13 07:38 | User Profile
What do Stormfronters need CoC for? They've already got the Protocols and Mein Kampf.
When it says "currently online: 7 members and 163 guests"....who did you think all those lurkers were, Okie? Hannity Forum exiles?
2005-07-13 08:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]When it says "currently online: 7 members and 163 guests"....who did you think all those lurkers were, Okie? Hannity Forum exiles?[/QUOTE]Tex thinks a lot of that's search engines. And give those search engines credit, I pull up our forum all the time even on random topic searches.
2005-07-13 09:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]What do Stormfronters need CoC for? They've already got the Protocols and Mein Kampf.[/QUOTE]Yes, and Little Women. The first 1914 hardback edition, no less.
Oh wait, those kind of books...sorry.
I don't think there's anything wrong with reading and absorbing it all. It can't hurt...
2005-07-13 13:36 | User Profile
And give those search engines credit, I pull up our forum all the time even on random topic searches.
Every single day, 100+ lurkers via search engines? When no other board of this nature features such a consistent disparity between Guests and Members? That's a real reach.
Hey, lurkers! Post something, so one of us can win this argument!
2005-07-13 13:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Every single day, 100+ lurkers via search engines? When no other board of this nature features such a consistent disparity between Guests and Members? That's a real reach.
Hey, lurkers! Post something, so one of us can win this argument![/QUOTE] I'm sure there are a good number of search engine bots that hit this site, so they would account for some of the guests. However, as a former long-time lurker myself, I can vouch for the reality of long-time lurking. As a lurker, you are just anonymously sampling the forbidden fruit, as it were, without committing yourself in any way. You may agree with the posters, but you are the only one who knows your opinions. Once you register and post, you have taken a giant step, if only mentally, towards being a racist/hater/homophobe/anti-semite/Nazi, and that can be high hurdle for the relentlessly propagandized modern man to clear.
2005-07-13 20:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]Once you register and post, you have taken a giant step, if only mentally, towards being a racist/hater/homophobe/anti-semite/Nazi, and that can be high hurdle for the relentlessly propagandized modern man to clear.[/QUOTE]It is a huge hurdle for anyone with a decent job, especially in management or the professions. The SPLC and ADL can discover your identity and "out" you any time they want. Thus far, the local news media has taken the bait for only a few marginally employed males who lacked resources to sue and lacked large, proveable damages. SPLC, ADL and the media are rightfully fearful of "invasion of privacy" lawsuits from those who have good jobs and resources to hire a lawyer. Most anonymous posters who have not otherwise made themselves public figures would easily win in most states (but obviously not in NYC, Detroit or Oakland).
However, filing and winning such a lawsuit makes the fact of your posting public and will alter your employment relationship if you work for a big company.
Before you sign up, you had better know that the administrator would never sell or disclose your e-mail address, ISP and other data.
For this reason, lurking is probably the true measure of our reach. SF has 50,000 sign ups and often has 4 or 5 times as many guests as members on line (4.5 times as I write this). We can all do the math.
2005-07-13 21:45 | User Profile
Fortunate then is he who, lacking this "decent job", need not skulk about like a jackal. They know who we are, but we also know who they are -- a "naked lunch", where everybody sees what's on everbody's fork.
2005-07-13 21:50 | User Profile
Yes and no, Cygnus.
The movie "They Live", which Walter (or was it Ygg? - or both?) called to my attention, seems to misrepresent things. The IP (Inner Party) cannot tell who we dissidents are. Obviously, those who post in fora like this can be traced, but the IP cannot tell by looking at us, or talking to us, and that is why no white or Christian is ever beyond suspicion. One thing, however, assures them that a person is not one of them (or of their lackeys): disconnectedness from the system, i.e., a lack of a stake in the system. The lack of a "decent job", Cygnus, marks you for persecution.
2005-07-13 22:14 | User Profile
"Fora". Yes! If only I could stop noticing clumsy nonlatinate plurals on newscasts. Do you think, mwdallas, that I could have been so marked before I explicitly held any anathematic ideas? For instance as a child, or college student? Is there such a thing as the mark of Cassandra? (Nobody ever "got" what she said. I believe it was a curse.) I must consider this.
Does anyone here have personal knowledge of the Strauss circle, especially Hyde Park 1965-1970?
"Think brutally. Act carefully."
2005-07-13 22:54 | User Profile
I don't know -- I would just say that the IP is suspicious of all whites and Christians, but keeping expressions of dissent private and working in the integrated economy that feeds wealth to the IP tends to keep you from being singled out. But is certainly true that political dissent can't cost you your job if don't have or want one.
2005-07-14 02:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE=cygnus]They know who we are, but we also know who they are -- a "naked lunch", where everybody sees what's on everbody's fork.[/QUOTE]Your insight is profound because the process of our subordination and disposession is very dangerous indeed for the IP perps, due to the huge disproportion in numbers - the very large numbers of us hiding in plain view, and the very small numbers of them, none of whom can hide. If they cannot keep the economy on track it could get dicey for them real fast.
In fact, the very strategic foolishness of it all convinces me that while all of the individual and group activism which drives the program is planned and intentional, the inevitable consequence for us as targets of that activism is probably not intended or even sensed. Most almost certainly have a delusional image of us as a wealthy and priveleged elite.
All that need happen is for the current model of moslem terrorism to evolve from senseless random killing of innocents to carefully targeted killing of the guilty, and we have a very naked lunch indeed.
2005-07-14 03:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Maybe that's a reason why Don Black has graciously placed OD as a featured link at SF for quite some time now. Sure we here can see a better path than MK, but maybe a good number of young men are getting their first exposure to resources like CofC via said link. I can't see how that's a negative and I hope that our community here at OD will be a positive influence in that direction.[/QUOTE]Tex, you are right, and it is a strong positive. SF is a subway with a huge number of passengers - over 1000 logged on at a time even during working hours. In a sense, it is being overwhelmed by its success, as the good content gets lost in the deluge of stuff from newbies and very numerous and clever IP trolls.
The mod squad can barely keep up with it any more - trying desperately to keep it from evolving into the kind of jungle you see on the VNN board and the old NA board.
Don is simply directing high end traffic - and especially paleoconservative traffic he wants to attact to the movement - to an alternative venue with a small number of quality thinkers and posters and with less clutter - all of which are OD's prime assets.
2005-07-14 07:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Yggdrasil]Don is simply directing high end traffic - and especially paleoconservative traffic he wants to attact to the movement - to an alternative venue with a small number of quality thinkers and posters and with less clutter - all of which are OD's prime assets.[/QUOTE]
We're good lookin', too! :rolleyes:
2005-07-18 01:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Yggdrasil]OD's prime assets.[/QUOTE]
Bringin' up the rear with all my might, sir.
2005-08-09 12:40 | User Profile
I have a great deal of respect for Prof. Kevin MacDonald, as he has obviously tackled some issues that many in his position are afraid to discuss. I don't know how many of you have seen the interview that Mark Green (of MarWenMedia.com) had of MacDonald, but it's something worth taking a look at. If you're like me and don't generally have much time to read (and about a dozen books you own that are on the waiting list), it's something that you should definitely take the time to watch, as MacDonald shares a great deal of information during the show. Additionally, the interviewer, Mark Green, is not on "attack mode," as so often is the case in the media today with someone who dissents from the politically correct viewpoint.
[url="http://www.HonestMediaToday.com"]http://www.HonestMediaToday.com[/url]
2005-08-10 04:07 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]When it says "currently online: 7 members and 163 guests"....who did you think all those lurkers were, Okie? Hannity Forum exiles?[/QUOTE] Have you ever tried posting on the Sean Hannity forum? They tolerate some mild Anti-Black rhetoric but the Jewish issue is completely taboo. Yes, I admit it, I was banned within my first 4 hours there. :lol:
2005-08-22 07:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Maybe that's a reason why Don Black has graciously placed OD as a featured link at SF for quite some time now. Sure we here can see a better path than MK, but maybe a good number of young men are getting their first exposure to resources like CofC via said link. I can't see how that's a negative and I hope that our community here at OD will be a positive influence in that direction.[/QUOTE] Hah! Thanks, and guess what? I'd never heard of Stormfront until I read about it here. Since then I've become a SF sustainer, attended the Euro Conference, distributed decorative paperwork, stood-down communists... by the way -I own all three of KMD's books in hardcover, DD's books, Mr. Mullens' work, several editions of MKampf, the PotLEoZ, and perhaps 35 other currently 'burnable' books. Thank you OD-ers, for providing the Red Pill.
2005-10-28 15:08 | User Profile
For il ragno's edification, I found this place by googling 'Kevin MacDonald'. I am exactly the type of paleo that Yggdrasil referrred to. There are millions more out there, but they're asleep. MacDonald is the proper intellectual stimulant, but his style is, um.. particular. His essays posted at the Occidental Quarterly are much better suited for common consumption.
Could they be posted here?