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travis [OP]

2005-07-10 13:40 | User Profile

This should rile up Petr, who adamantly insists we pretend Marranos don't exist and never have.

[url]http://bopedia.com/en/wikipedia/h/hi/history_of_the_jews_in_the_united_states__colonial_era_1.html[/url]

History of the Jews in the United States (Colonial Era-1906)

The history of Jews in the Americas dates back to Christopher Columbus, who left Spain to cross the Atlantic Ocean on the same day by which Spanish Jews were forced to either abandon their religion or leave the country. There were at least seven Jews, crypto-Jews (Marranos), or converted Jews who sailed with Columbus in 1492, including Roderigo De Triana, who was the first to sight land (Columbus later assumed credit for this), Maestre Bernal, who served as the expedition's physican, and Luis De Torres, the interpreter, who spoke Hebrew and Arabic, which it was believed would be useful in the Orient.

In the coming years, Jews settled in the new Spanish and Portuguese colonies in the Caribbean, where they believed that they would be safe from the Inquisition. Some took part in the conquest of the "New World," and Bernal Diaz describes a number of executions of soldiers in Mexico because they were Jews.

Nevertheless, several Jewish communities in the Caribbean, Central, and South America flourished, particularly in those areas under Dutch and English control. By the sixteenth century, fully functioning Jewish communities had organized in Brazil, Suriname, Cura硯, Jamaica, and Barbados. In addition, there were unorganized communities of Jews in the Spanish and Portuguese territories, where the Inquisition was active, including Cuba and Mexico, however, these Jews generally concealed their identity from the authorities.

By the mid-seventeenth century, the largest Jewish communities in the Western Hemisphere were located in Suriname and Brazil.

more:

[url]http://bopedia.com/en/wikipedia/h/hi/history_of_the_jews_in_the_united_states__colonial_era_1.html[/url]


Petr

2005-07-10 15:01 | User Profile

[COLOR=DarkRed][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "This should rile up Petr, who adamantly insists we pretend Marranos don't exist and never have."[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

You have just brazenly put words into my mouth, i.e. [B]lied[/B] about me. It just shows again that you are not too careful with the truth when making accusations against other people. Or perhaps you're just not too bright type.

Of course insincerely converted Marranoes have existed and in some sense still exist (I've heard that oligarch Boris Berezovsky was baptized to the Russian Orthodox church at one point). I have [B]never[/B] denied this.

I just think that guys like you are exaggerating the phenomenon out of all proportion, like when saying things like [I]"anyone who has social position is probably a Marrano or a select smear-vulnerable gentile like Scofield (if he was a gentile). "[/I].

[url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16476&page=7&pp=15&highlight=lyndon+marrano[/url]

Petr


travis

2005-07-10 16:01 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Petr] exaggerating the phenomenon out of all proportion[/QUOTE]

You have gone out of your way to downplay this phenomenon, which is not really out of character with your other posts in which you downplay Jewish influence and power.

A few things about Marranos:

1) Strategic value determines whether organized Jewry uses Marranos for their operations. History has not changed that so there is no reason to suggest that the use of Marranos has tapered off since the inquisition.

2) Common sense dictates that Jews who have the least Jewish features would become Marranos. Also that those having features that would pass as Italian or Spanish would use those identities. Also, they likely employ rhinoplasty to conceal their identities.

3) Since Marrano families maintained this status for generations, it stands to reason that they marry into Jewish families, both Marrano and overtly Jewish, which is a reasonable explanation for all the supposedly "half-Jewish" people out there. If a person had a Marrano father and an overtly Jewish mother, he/she would have to claim that he/she is "half-Jewish" so as to avoid exposing other family members.

4) The strategic value of Marranos dictates that they would be placed in high positions where Jews do not desire to be associated with their activities. That said, it stands to reason that several of our presidents have probably been Jewish.

5) Since names and admission of Jewishness are not things that help us determine who is a Marrano, and usually features do not either, at least not with much degree of certainty, we have to use MODUS OPERANDI AND MODUS AGENDI to determine who is a Marrano.

6) When a public official fits the Jewish modus operandi and modus agendi to a tee, doing almost anything and everything that has strategic value to them, it stands to reason that there is a high probability that person is a Marrano.


Ponce

2005-07-10 18:04 | User Profile

Nice Travis, very very nice.


Petr

2005-07-10 18:06 | User Profile

A nice bunch of vague [I]coulda-shoulda-woulda [/I] speculations you've got there. Now all we need is some concrete details.

Petr


travis

2005-07-10 19:47 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Petr]A nice bunch of vague [I]coulda-shoulda-woulda [/I] speculations you've got there. Now all we need is some concrete details.

Petr[/QUOTE]What's your definition of concrete details? A book from a Jewish publishing house? An article in a Jewish newspaper? Some scholarly research from a Jew-run university done by a Marrano? A consensus among talking heads on the boob tube?

A better way to separate the wheat from the chaff is to fit things together on the basis of motive, means, (physical) evidence, modus operandi and modus agendi.


travis

2005-07-10 20:09 | User Profile

Hey, Ponce. Check out this page:

[url]http://www.jewishcuba.org/marranos.html[/url] "Famous Hispanics who have acknowledged Marrano ancestry include Rita Moreno and Fidel Castro."

What do you make of that?


Petr

2005-07-10 20:11 | User Profile

[COLOR=Purple][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "What's your definition of concrete details? A book from a Jewish publishing house? An article in a Jewish newspaper? Some scholarly research from a Jew-run university done by a Marrano? A consensus among talking heads on the boob tube?"[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

What a self-pitying [B]sour-grapes [/B] whine! I wonder how Kevin MacDonald is able to to fill his books with incriminating quotations from all sorts of Jewish (and also non-Jewish) authors.

And it tells us something about your mentality that you think that all sources of "concrete details" are Jew-controlled, so you can't come up with anything... you are precisely the type of WN who looks ridiculous when he is not just "preaching to the choir."

[COLOR=Purple][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "A better way to separate the wheat from the chaff is to fit things together on the basis of motive, means, (physical) evidence, modus operandi and modus agendi."[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

Empty, meaningless babble.

Petr


travis

2005-07-10 20:21 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Petr]

[COLOR=Purple][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "A better way to separate the wheat from the chaff is to fit things together on the basis of motive, means, (physical) evidence, modus operandi and modus agendi."[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

Empty, meaningless babble.

Petr[/QUOTE] That's the same answer your pal Fade the Butcher gave. Millions of detectives and prosecutors have used that formula for decades. It's called thinking for yourself. You should try it sometime instead of relying on "sources".

It's the difference between swallowing and analyzing.


kane123123

2005-07-10 20:58 | User Profile

America has a Jewish problem with some Jewish Supremecists, but I've gotta say that I'm more worried about the integration of other races (why can't they form their own communities) than I am about Jews. I think that is America's true problem.


travis

2005-07-10 21:12 | User Profile

Kane, You have a lot of studying to do to get up to speed on this issue. Jews are the engineers of all the multiculturalism/integration/race mixing that is destroying Western civilization.

"We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause."Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957 The following speech was given by Rabbi Emmanuel Rabinovich before a special meeting of the Emergency Council of European Rabbis in Budapest, Hungary, January 12, 1952:

“The goal for which we have striven so concertedly for three thousand years is at last within our reach, and because its fulfillment is so apparent, it behooves us to increase our efforts and our caution tenfold. I can safely promise you that before ten years have passed, our race will take its rightful place in the world, with every Jew a king and every Gentile a slave. We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia and Africa. I can state with assurance that the last generation of white children is now being born. Our Control Commissions will, in the interests of peace and wiping out inter- racial tensions, forbid the Whites to mate with Whites. The White Women must cohabit with members of the dark races, the White Men with black women. Thus the White Race will disappear, for the mixing of the dark with the White means the end of the White Man, and our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory. We shall embark upon an era of ten thousand years of peace and plenty, the Pax Judaica, and our race will rule undisputed over the world. Our superior intelligence will easily enable us to retain mastery over a world of dark peoples.”


Ponce

2005-07-10 21:48 | User Profile

[QUOTE=travis]Hey, Ponce. Check out this page:

[url]http://www.jewishcuba.org/marranos.html[/url] "Famous Hispanics who have acknowledged Marrano ancestry include Rita Moreno and Fidel Castro."

What do you make of that?[/QUOTE]

I don't know about Rita Moreno but it was Castro's grandfather and not his grandmother who was a Jew thefore Castro is not a Jew.

When Castro took over in Cuba there were around 5,500 of those people and he got rid of 4,000 of them, some came to the US and some to the state of Israel, at this time there are around 2,000 Jews in Cuba but we are keeping an eye on them......what is happening in the US WILL NEVER happen in Cuba.


Petr

2005-07-10 21:53 | User Profile

And Travis gives us a nice example on why rigorous editing process is necessary for WNs - this "Israel Cohen" quote seems to be a crude forgery, being [I]way[/I] too direct to be genuine.

Presenting easily-refuted stuff like this as your "star witnesses" against Jews is great way for a WN recruiter to embarrass himself. Even some brighter guys over at Stormfront have realized this:

[url]http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=158825[/url]

[COLOR=Indigo][B]This is a famous forgery. It was read into the Congessional Record by Mississippi Congessman T.G. Abernathy in June 1957 allegedly taken from a book called "A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century" (you can't even get the title right) which was supposedly published by Englishman Israel Cohen in 1912. In August 1958 New York Congressman A.J. Multer questioned the quotation's authenticity. He pointed out that there was NO communist party in Britain in 1912 and that the expression "Communist Party" did not come into use until AFTER WWI and that no such book was ever written or could be found in the British Museum Catalogue of Printed Books or the Library of Congress. Also, there was no record of a person called Israel Cohen who was a communist that lived in Britain.

Multer read into the Congressional Record an articled called "Story of a Phony Quotation - A Futile Effort to Pin it Down..." and an article about it appeared in the Washington Star, Feb 18, 1958. The Star traced the phony quote to, guess who?...Eustace Mullins, Jr! who claimed to have copied it from a Zionist publication in the Library of Congress in 1952. However, Multer noted that "He was discharged years ago from his probationary job as a photographic aid in the Library of Congress because of his authorship and circulation of violently anti-Semitic articles.

Source "They Never Said It", P.F. Boller and J. George, Oxford University Press, 1989, isbn 0-19-505541-1 [/B] [/COLOR]

[I]"The jews successfully implemented their agenda because they did not write books such as this one." -[B] Charles Coughlin[/B]

"How can [B]anyone[/B] imagine that a ridiculous quote like this could be genuine???"[/I] -[B] JohnJoyTree[/B]

JohnJoyTree (who happens to be one of the most intelligent pagan WNs I know) considers also the Rabinovich quote to be phony:

[I]"If you credit clumsy, pathetically obvious, forgeries like this you do us no favours at all."[/I]

[url]http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=187547&highlight=rabinovich[/url]

Petr


kane123123

2005-07-10 22:00 | User Profile

Jews are the engineers of all the multiculturalism/integration/race mixing that is destroying Western civilization. I understand this and believe it is valid, however I also believe that none of it would be possible without the race traitors within the white gentile community.


travis

2005-07-10 22:18 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ponce]I don't know about Rita Moreno but it was Castro's grandfather and not his grandmother who was a Jew thefore Castro is not a Jew.

But how do you know he was not a lot more Jewish than he claimed? It's consistent that Jews agitate, start wars, destroy liberties and get themselves placed in high positions and downplay their jewishness.> When Castro took over in Cuba there were around 5,500 of those people and he got rid of 4,000 of them, some came to the US and some to the state of Israel, .[/QUOTE]Such a story would have been easy for the Jewsmedia to fabricate, too. They did the same with another probable Marrano: Josef Stalin

There is no way to be certain one way or another, but modus operandi and modus agendi suggest both were Jews.


travis

2005-07-10 22:23 | User Profile

[QUOTE=kane123123] none of it would be possible without the race traitors within the white gentile community.[/QUOTE]It was easy for them to cultivate that treason by "educating" us with white guilt.


travis

2005-07-10 22:30 | User Profile

Petr, You demanded in your earlier post that I present quotes by Jews to hang them by their own rope, knowing full well that this leads nowhere, as those who control the flow of information have the final word on this kind of "analysis". You and Fade work the same way. It may fool some but it doesn't fool me.

The truth is what fits together, not what some authority said.


kane123123

2005-07-10 22:41 | User Profile

You see, as a conservative, I can't accept the stance that people aren't responsible for their own actions. Therefore I think it's the race traitors own fault that they are race traitors.


travis

2005-07-10 22:55 | User Profile

[QUOTE=kane123123]You see, as a conservative, I can't accept the stance that people aren't responsible for their own actions. Therefore I think it's the race traitors own fault that they are race traitors.[/QUOTE]I agree that they are not innocent, but you must understand that the clever tribe knows our weaknesses. They have studied it and tested it. When Jewish Hollywood and advertizing use their power of suggestion...when they issue a command like "all young men must wear earrings and ridiculuosly baggy shorts that look like dresses", a large percentage of them willingly obey. They even think they are rebels because it displeases their parents. It's the same with race-mixing. RACE MIXING IS COOL, and you know who determines what is cool. They have made race mixing a way for a generation to distinguish itself from the last generation....part of the weaning process for young people. Jews dominate the field of psychology. They know how to use it against us. They have all the tools (except the internet) neccessary to do so.

We are vulnerable to the power of suggestion.


kane123123

2005-07-10 23:10 | User Profile

Travis, this has been a most interesting conservation and I've glad we have it. I think I am in agreement with you here. Both people are at fault here. The race traitors who turn on us and the Jews that aid them.


travis

2005-07-10 23:20 | User Profile

Kane, I used to hate race traitors, now I have sadness and understanding.


Ponce

2005-07-11 01:20 | User Profile

Comandante Fidel Castro R. never "claimed" in any way form or shape that he was a Jews....that was given by the Jews themselves who wanted something out of the revolucion and what better way than to make Castro part of their race?


travis

2005-07-11 01:42 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ponce]Comandante Fidel Castro R. never "claimed" in any way form or shape that he was a Jews....that was given by the Jews themselves who wanted something out of the revolucion and what better way than to make Castro part of their race?[/QUOTE]That explanation does not pass the test of strategic value. It is of no strategic value to the Jews having a warmongering, Marxist tyrant as one of their own, so they would not claim him (and they don't claim him publicly beyond that obscure site) unless he really was one of them. It does not benefit them to claim him.


Ponce

2005-07-11 03:35 | User Profile

Ok Travis you win, I will now kneel before Elohim and bang my head against a wall three time in order to show my repentance.

Saalam Aleikum.


Petr

2005-07-11 03:59 | User Profile

[COLOR=DarkRed][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "Petr,You demanded in your earlier post that I present quotes by Jews to hang them by their own rope, knowing full well that this leads nowhere, as those who control the flow of information have the final word on this kind of "analysis"." [/I] [/B] [/FONT] [/COLOR]

Good grief, how convenient. You have a Gnostic worldview (know what that means?) where you can handily explain all your own shortcomings (like presenting easily-refutable quotations) by blaming all-powerful conspiring "powers that be." This handily releases you from all personal responsibility and quality-control.

I (and JohnJoyTree) were merely applying that much-vaunted [I]common sense[/I] of yours, you know, how [I]things fit together[/I].

These both quotes are childishly simplistic, real Jewish conspirators always use much more veiled expressions and code-speak. IF Jews are so intelligent as you always insist, why do think they would ever publically publish something as crude and incriminating as this?

Even their names are [B]so[/B] stereotypically Jewish - Israel Cohen and Rabbi Rabinovich! - as to immediately suggest a clumsy forgery.

Petr


travis

2005-07-11 11:21 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Petr][COLOR=DarkRed]you can handily explain all your own shortcomings (like presenting easily-refutable quotations) All quotations are easily fabricated and easily refutable, so why do you put so much emphasis on an area where Jews have the upper hand? There are more effective ways to analyze information. Stick with the fundamental dynamics of power.....means motive, (physical) evidence, opportunity, modus operandi and modus agendi.> I (and JohnJoyTree) were merely applying that much-vaunted [I]common sense[/I] of yours, you know, how [I]things fit together[/I]. If you can't or wont apply means motive, (physical) evidence, opportunity, modus operandi and modus agendi, you have little to say about common sense.>

These both quotes are childishly simplistic, real Jewish conspirators always use much more veiled expressions and code-speak. IF Jews are so intelligent as you always insist, why do think they would ever publically publish something as crude and incriminating as this?

Even their names are [B]so[/B] stereotypically Jewish - Israel Cohen and Rabbi Rabinovich! - as to immediately suggest a clumsy forgery. Petr[/QUOTE]Every once in a while a defector will pass on information obtained at their gatherings. Rabbinovich's granddaughter has publicly confirmed his quote. But all that is of little consequence, what matters is all of it is backed up by their actions. So tell us Petrstein, how do you figure out who the Marranos are?


Petr

2005-07-11 14:54 | User Profile

[FONT=Arial][COLOR=Purple][B][I] - "All quotations are easily fabricated and easily refutable"[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

This is post-modernistic egalitarian relativism. ("All quotations are EQUAL!") Some quotations are simply better documented and more reliable than others, no matter what you might irrationally insist.

[FONT=Arial][COLOR=Purple][B][I] - "Stick with the fundamental dynamics of power.....means motive, (physical) evidence, opportunity, modus operandi and modus agendi."[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

More abstract psycho-legal babble. Are we supposed to be impressed by this? (Hint: no-one outside your own small paranoid circle will not be impressed)

Besides, you are arguing in circles: first you use bogus quotes to establish the idea of total Jewish supremacy, and then you use the presumed fact of Jewish supremacy to support the authenticity of those quotes.

[COLOR=Purple][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "Rabbinovich's granddaughter has publicly confirmed his quote."[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

SOURCE? Any professional debater would have already provided some link or source to accompany such a claim.

[FONT=Arial][COLOR=Purple][B] [I] - "But all that is of little consequence, what matters is all of it is backed up by their actions."[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

This is the same logical fallacy that many have fallen when arguing that the Protocols are genuine: "things have happened as they describe!" Ever heard of the term "prophecy [I]ex eventu"?[/I]

As one stormfronter put it:

[COLOR=Blue][I]"If I were to tell you that Benjamin Franklin predicted that rap would become popular, would you consider the popularity of rap to be evidence that he actually said this???"[/I][/COLOR]

[COLOR=Purple][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "So tell us Petrstein, how do you figure out who the Marranos are?"[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

Well, Travistein (like in "travesty"), frankly I do not spend all my days wondering where those terrible Marranos might be hiding. Got more constructive things to do, you see.

If some supposedly Gentile character starts to display suspicious amounts of pro-Judaic attitudes for no apparent material motive, and not just in that goofy sense that naive philo-Semitic Gentiles exhibit, I'd say that further investigations are in order.

Petr


travis

2005-07-11 15:25 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Petr][FONT=Arial][COLOR=Purple][B][I] - "All quotations are easily fabricated and easily refutable"[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

This is post-modernistic egalitarian relativism. ("All quotations are EQUAL!") Some quotations are simply better documented and more reliable than others, no matter what you might irrationally insist. Reliance on documentation is what your people want us to do. Those who document the past determine the future. There is power in documentation but there is truth in logical analysis.>

[FONT=Arial][COLOR=Purple][B][I] - "Stick with the fundamental dynamics of power.....means motive, (physical) evidence, opportunity, modus operandi and modus agendi."[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

More abstract psycho-legal babble. Are we supposed to be impressed by this? (Hint: no-one outside your own small paranoid circle will not be impressed) Are the detectives and prosecutors who have relied on this formula for hundreds of years in my "paranoid circle"?>

Besides, you are arguing in circles: first you use bogus quotes to establish the idea of total Jewish supremacy, and then you use the presumed fact of Jewish supremacy to support the authenticity of those quotes. I didn't even use those quotes in an argument with you. You are trying to bring the argument back to "sources" and away from logical analysis: MOTIVE, MEANS, (PHYSICAL) EVIDENCE, OPPORTUNITY, MODUS OPERANDI AND MODUS AGENDI. That is how intelligent people separate the wheat from the chaff. Foolish goyim rely on Jewish sources.

This is the same logical fallacy that many have fallen when arguing that the Protocols are genuine: "things have happened as they describe!" Ever heard of the term "prophecy [I]ex eventu"?[/I]

As one stormfronter put it:

[COLOR=Blue][I]"If I were to tell you that Benjamin Franklin predicted that rap would become popular, would you consider the popularity of rap to be evidence that he actually said this???"[/I][/COLOR] Wait a minute, buddy. The protocols have been around over a hundred years, their existence is not disputed even by the Jews. The fact that they are prophetic deserves a good explanation. You are attempting to discredit something with a poor analogy. If the protocols had only surfaced in the last couple years, the fact that much of what's in them describes what is going on would not confirm their authenticity.>

If some supposedly Gentile character starts to display suspicious amounts of pro-Judaic attitudes for no apparent material motive, and not just in that goofy sense that naive philo-Semitic Gentiles exhibit, I'd say that further investigations are in order. [/QUOTE]In other words, means, motive, opportunity, evidence...etc...


Ponce

2005-07-11 16:44 | User Profile

Who here is a Jew and willing to answer some questions from me? I always say that "where there is darkness from of ignorance there can be light from knowledge".... Ponce

Who knows, may be what I read about the Khazards is not true and they really din't convert to the religion of the chosen ones, maybe they did not go to northern Europe and maybe they didn't really go to Palestine and stole and are stealing Palestinian lands.

Maybe they really did try to kill all our men in the USS Liberty and maybe they really don't spy on the US or have hit squads and maybe, jutst maybe the Mossad are really guardian angels and nice people.

But I really don't know what the truth is unless I ask question from a real Jew so stop running away from me. :tank: I am waiting for you.


weisbrot

2005-07-11 17:35 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Ponce]I don't know about Rita Moreno but it was Castro's grandfather and not his grandmother who was a Jew thefore Castro is not a Jew.

When Castro took over in Cuba there were around 5,500 of those people and he got rid of 4,000 of them, some came to the US and some to the state of Israel, at this time there are around 2,000 Jews in Cuba but we are keeping an eye on them......what is happening in the US WILL NEVER happen in Cuba.[/QUOTE]

Who is this "we" you're talking about, Mr. All-American Ninos?


Petr

2005-07-11 17:51 | User Profile

[FONT=Arial][COLOR=Red][B][I] - "Are the detectives and prosecutors who have relied on this formula for hundreds of years in my "paranoid circle"?"[/I][/B][/COLOR][/FONT]

Who made [I]you[/I] their spokesman? Can you find any detectives or prosecutors who would agree with your theories?

[COLOR=Red][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "Foolish goyim rely on Jewish sources."[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

Kevin MacDonald must be a one foolish goy then.

(Not to mention other people like revisionist and Talmud-expert Michael A. Hoffman, who has repeatedly preached against perpetrating badly-documented, clumsy attacks on Judaics, saying that they have a totally counter-productive effect. No attack at all is better than a bad attack.)

[COLOR=Red][FONT=Arial][B][I] - "In other words, means, motive, opportunity, evidence...etc..."[/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

Yeah, and THEN follows that "[I]further investigations[/I]" part, when we need detailed, concrete evidences, reliable witness-statements and a good sourcework. Makes perfect sense now, doesn't it?

Petr


Faust

2005-07-11 18:58 | User Profile

travis,

An interesting article.


travis

2005-07-11 19:12 | User Profile

Petr In a criminal investigation/prosecution the purpose of every statement by a reliable witness, every piece of "concrete evidence" and so on is for the purpose of establishing means, motive, opportunity..etc.. I don't think you can find examples that do not serve that function. A "reliable witness" establishes something relevant to the case which will fall into that category. Anything relevant to the case falls into one of those categories. Physical evidence by itself will not prove guilt, it must be reinforced with motive, evidence or opportunity. Opportunity by itself will not prove guilt but makes the case stronger if means and motive are present. Motive does not prove guilt unless that person also had opportunity and means as well as physical evidence and so on. In the cases of repeat offenses, modus operandi and modus agendi establish a pattern.

Jews have made it their business to control as many sources as possible because they know the goyim is too lazy to analyze things for himself and will usually be content to have this done for him by "sources" and "authorities". Once you understand that you understand the futility of making a case against them using their own weapons unless they have conveniently hung themselves with their own rope.

Think for yourself. Forget about "sources" and "authorities".