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Thread ID: 19060 | Posts: 84 | Started: 2005-07-09
2005-07-09 10:58 | User Profile
E-MAIL STORY PRINTER FRIENDLY FOXFAN CENTRAL
U.S. Terror Attack ââ¬â ââ¬Å Ninety Days at Most ââ¬Â
Counterterrorism expert Juval Aviv spoke with FOX Fan Central about what Americans can do to protect themselves in case of a terror attack.
Do you believe another terrorist attack is likely on American soil?
I predict, based primarily on information that is floating in Europe and the Middle East, that an event is imminent and around the corner here in the United States. It could happen as soon as tomorrow, or it could happen in the next few months. Ninety days at the most.
What advice do you have for individuals that have the misfortune of finding themselves in the middle of a terror attack?
Since mass transportation is the next attack, when you travel to work have with you, a bottle of water, a small towel, and a flashlight. What happened in London is exactly a point to look at. Those people who were close to the bombs died, then others were injured or died from inhaling the toxic fumes or getting trampled. The reason you take a bottle of water and a towel is that if you wet the towel and put it over your face, you can protect yourself against the fumes and get yourself out of there.
Donââ¬â¢t be bashful. If your gut feeling tells you when you walk on to a bus there is something unusual or suspicious, get out and walk away. You may do it 10 times for no reason, but there will be one time that saves your life. Let your sixth sense direct you.
Try to break your routine. If you travel during rush hour everyday, try to get up a little earlier and drive to work or take the train when itââ¬â¢s still not full. Donââ¬â¢t find yourself every day in the midst of rush hour. Terrorists are not going to waste a bomb on a half empty train.
What portion of the American infrastructure do you believe is at the greatest risk for a terror attack?
We have put all of our emphasis, right or wrong, on the aviation area. What has happened, in the last two to three years, based on information we have, the terrorists have realized that they cannot hijack a plane in America soon because the passengers are going to fight back. So they realize what they have been very successful with over the last 50 years in Madrid, London, Iraq, Israel: demoralizing the public when they go to work and when they come back from work.
What theyââ¬â¢re going to do is hit six, seven, or eight cities simultaneously to show sophistication and really hit the public. This time, which is the message of the day, it will not only be big cities. Theyââ¬â¢re going to try to hit rural America. They want to send a message to rural America: ââ¬ËYouââ¬â¢re not protected. If you figured out that if you just move out of New York and move to Montana or to Pittsburgh, youââ¬â¢re not immune. Weââ¬â¢re going get you wherever we can and itââ¬â¢s easier there than in New York.ââ¬â¢
What more do you think the government can do to protect the public?
Nââ¬âââ¬âumber one, and this is the beef Iââ¬â¢ve had with Homeland Security for the last four years, is educating the public on how to deal with those types of events. Thereââ¬â¢s no education. Weââ¬â¢re raising the color code alert and that means nothing to anyone. Whether itââ¬â¢s green, yellow, pink, no one ever educated the public how to identify suspicious items or people. In Israel, so many of them [terrorists] have been apprehended just because people have phoned in. We donââ¬â¢t have that training on campuses, schools, or kindergarten.
In Israel, itââ¬â¢s very popular right now [amongst terrorists] to put one device to explode and time another one for five minutes later when itââ¬â¢s all calm, people are getting up, and the rescue teams have responded. You need to know all those things and think about those things. The government must pursue that. Law enforcement will never have enough people on the street to detect things. We donââ¬â¢t have that kind of manpower. Thatââ¬â¢s why the government must enlist the public.
Juval Aviv is a former Israeli Counterterrorism Intelligence Officer and President and CEO of Interfor, Inc. Mr. Aviv has also served as a special consultant to the U.S. Congress on issues of terrorism and security and is the author of ââ¬ÅStaying Safe : The Complete Guide to Protecting Yourself, Your Family, and Your Business.ââ¬Â
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161962,00.html[/url]
2005-07-09 15:08 | User Profile
Gabby, why not put the blame on the real cause for the terror attacks on London, Bush and Blair, instead of trying to blame the Jews for everything? Are you running interference for the Bush administration and their failed Middle Eastern policies?
2005-07-09 16:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]Gabby, why not put the blame on the real cause for the terror attacks on London, Bush and Blair, instead of trying to blame the Jews for everything? Are you running interference for the Bush administration and their failed Middle Eastern policies?[/QUOTE]
Who urged the White, Western countries to pursue Zionist policies? Can you guess?
2005-07-09 18:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]Gabby, why not put the blame on the real cause for the terror attacks on London, Bush and Blair, instead of trying to blame the Jews for everything? Are you running interference for the Bush administration and their failed Middle Eastern policies?[/QUOTE]
Bawk, bawk, bawk, bawk, etc, etc.... :rolleyes: :)
2005-07-09 20:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Franco]Who urged the White, Western countries to pursue Zionist policies? Can you guess?
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Sure, but that doesn't absolve Gabby's boy, George W., for his share of the blame for running full speed ahead with the Zionist agenda. Gabby tries to blame Jews and then praise Bush when they both are on the same team.
2005-07-09 20:13 | User Profile
Interesting that with all that is going on you don't hear anything about what is goind on in Palestine, the Jews are still stealing Palestinian land even as they say that the are getting out hahahahahaahhaahah.
Did you hear about the two kids who were shot by the brave IDF? or the one that was beat up almost to death? or the three years old shot in the head? or the many more Palestinian home taken dow by the Zionists for "security reasons?"
As I said many time before, I blame the Jews (Zionists) for 78% of all the wrong doing in this world because they are either involved directly or from behind a closed door.
2005-07-09 21:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]Sure, but that doesn't absolve Gabby's boy, George W., for his share of the blame for running full speed ahead with the Zionist agenda. Gabby tries to blame Jews and then praise Bush when they both are on the same team.[/QUOTE]Correct again.
The only thing even slightly unusual about this article is that the Jew puts a time frame on it(within 90 days) since there is always someone warning of an imminent attack since 9/11 occured.
[QUOTE] Try to break your routine. If you travel during rush hour everyday, try to get up a little earlier and drive to work or take the train when itââ¬â¢s still not full. Donââ¬â¢t find yourself every day in the midst of rush hour. Terrorists are not going to waste a bomb on a half empty train. [/QUOTE] In other words, change your whole entire life if you must since all those evil terrorists are just waiting to come out of nowhere and get you. be afraid, be very afraid:twisted:
2005-07-09 22:15 | User Profile
If Gabby weren't a Lunatic Christian her user-id would've been ghosted here a long time ago. Maybe she can team up with Excelsis Deo, who now claims to see ethnicity through his third eye. They can hunt for Secret Democrats and report their findings directly to Bush.
I can tell when I see one. I told you it's a gift. I see it in his eyes, his nose, his mouth, his face. I have this ability, truly. What more proof do you need than me saying so? I don't need internet back-up on this. I see it. I know.
2005-07-09 22:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]Gabby, why not put the blame on the real cause for the terror attacks on London, Bush and Blair, instead of trying to blame the Jews for everything? Are you running interference for the Bush administration and their failed Middle Eastern policies?[/QUOTE]
You will find the blame lies with Islam and its proclaimers.
Their hatred for Christians and the non-believer cannot be denied.
There is no excuse. And there is no pretence from them.
Therefore, understand the meaning of it. And do not place blame elsewhere.
There does exist too many hateful muslims in Europe. They take the safety of democratic government for their own ends. They use the protection offered by the weak. And use it to kill the unsuspecting.
And they attack viciously those that expose them in word.
George Bush is not responsible for Islamic expansion and their hatred. He has the manliness to face it and confront it. The Russian Putin agrees. The British Prime Minister agrees.
The leaders of Europe agree - yet allow it.
The muslims must remain in their place of origin. And not come to other lands in their hundreds of thousands, and murder those of other lands. And impose their ignorant Dark Age repression upon others.
Mentzer
2005-07-09 23:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]Sure, but that doesn't absolve Gabby's boy, George W., for his share of the blame for running full speed ahead with the Zionist agenda. Gabby tries to blame Jews and then praise Bush when they both are on the same team.[/QUOTE]
Bawk, bawk, bawk, bawk, etc, etc.... :oh:
2005-07-09 23:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]If Gabby weren't a Lunatic Christian her user-id would've been ghosted here a long time ago. Maybe she can team up with Excelsis Deo, who now claims to see ethnicity through his third eye. They can hunt for Secret Democrats and report their findings directly to Bush.[/QUOTE]
You are such a silly duck. .. quack, quack....
2005-07-09 23:07 | User Profile
[QUOTE]
The muslims must remain in their place of origin. And not come to other lands in their hundreds of thousands, and murder those of other lands. And impose their ignorant Dark Age repression upon others.
[/QUOTE]I agree. But shouldn't the same be said about people going into their lands, occupying them, forcing their forms of life and government on them, and murdering them, as well?
[QUOTE]Their hatred for Christians and the non-believer cannot be denied.
There is no excuse. And there is no pretence from them.
Therefore, understand the meaning of it. And do not place blame elsewhere.[/QUOTE] What are the reasons they give for this hatred, Mentzer?
2005-07-09 23:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]You will find the blame lies with Islam and its proclaimers.
Their hatred for Christians and the non-believer cannot be denied.
There is no excuse. And there is no pretence from them.
Therefore, understand the meaning of it. And do not place blame elsewhere.
There does exist too many hateful muslims in Europe. They take the safety of democratic government for their own ends. They use the protection offered by the weak. And use it to kill the unsuspecting.
And they attack viciously those that expose them in word.
George Bush is not responsible for Islamic expansion and their hatred. He has the manliness to face it and confront it. The Russian Putin agrees. The British Prime Minister agrees.
The leaders of Europe agree - yet allow it.
The muslims must remain in their place of origin. And not come to other lands in their hundreds of thousands, and murder those of other lands. And impose their ignorant Dark Age repression upon others.
Mentzer[/QUOTE] Lol, saying that Muslims must remain in their place of origin and then praising Bush who is one of the biggest promoters of multiculturalism to ever live in the White House is absurd. BTW, Putin did not support the war against Iraq as he knew that has nothing to do with fighting terrorism whatsoever, but was just a giant landgrab for the US/UK/Israeli axis. Listen, I don't want Muslims in the West as much as the next guy here, but if you come over to my house to attack me, don't expect that I'm not going to pay you a visit someday with a little payback. The terrorists don't care about our Western values, they want to scare us out of their territory. If you want to solve terrorism: deport all Muslims, withdraw support for Israel and stop fighting intrusive wars in the Middle East -- it's that simple!
2005-07-09 23:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]Lol, saying that Muslims must remain in their place of origin and then praising Bush who is one of the biggest promoters of multiculturalism to ever live in the White House is absurd. BTW, Putin did not support the war against Iraq as he knew that has nothing to do with fighting terrorism whatsoever, but was just a giant landgrab for the US/UK/Israeli axis. Listen, I don't want Muslims in the West as much as the next guy here, but if you come over to my house to attack me, don't expect that I'm not going to pay you a visit someday with a little payback. The terrorists don't care about our Western values, they want to scare us out of their territory. If you want to solve terrorism: deport all Muslims, withdraw support for Israel and stop fighting intrusive wars in the Middle East -- it's that simple![/QUOTE] I almost thought that post was a joke. LOL.
2005-07-10 00:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]Lol, saying that Muslims must remain in their place of origin and then praising Bush who is one of the biggest promoters of multiculturalism to ever live in the White House is absurd. BTW, Putin did not support the war against Iraq as he knew that has nothing to do with fighting terrorism whatsoever, but was just a giant landgrab for the US/UK/Israeli axis. Listen, I don't want Muslims in the West as much as the next guy here, but if you come over to my house to attack me, don't expect that I'm not going to pay you a visit someday with a little payback. The terrorists don't care about our Western values, they want to scare us out of their territory. If you want to solve terrorism: deport all Muslims, withdraw support for Israel and stop fighting intrusive wars in the Middle East -- it's that simple![/QUOTE]
When you preface a post with "LOL" I do not read it.
If you wish to start again - you are welcome.
Mentzer
2005-07-10 00:59 | User Profile
The reason you take a bottle of water and a towel is that if you wet the towel and put it over your face, you can protect yourself against the fumes and get yourself out of there. Great advice. I may do this as you say.
2005-07-10 01:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]I agree. But shouldn't the same be said about people going into their lands, occupying them, forcing their forms of life and government on them, and murdering them, as well?
What are the reasons they give for this hatred, Mentzer?[/QUOTE]
You are correct in stating that no European should be in the Middle-East. And no proper European wants to be there.
Tell me why millions of muslims flock to Europe - you explain that?
And why they feel the need to impose their stupid and backward views upon Europe?
They run from the desert - but wish to impose their desert upon Europe. They murder and they maim. But for how long? They are not clever people.
And when you consider their statements you will understand they want muslim domination and authority - they state it openly.
There is no hidden agenda - it is clearly expressed.
And tough leadership it required to eradicate it.
Mentzer
2005-07-10 01:06 | User Profile
Nââ¬âââ¬âumber one, and this is the beef Iââ¬â¢ve had with Homeland Security for the last four years, is educating the public on how to deal with those types of events. Thereââ¬â¢s no education. Weââ¬â¢re raising the color code alert and that means nothing to anyone. Whether itââ¬â¢s green, yellow, pink, no one ever educated the public how to identify suspicious items or people. In Israel, so many of them [terrorists] have been apprehended just because people have phoned in. We donââ¬â¢t have that training on campuses, schools, or kindergarten.
Britain is also much better than us. In Britian, they have things like ATM's which tell people to report suspicious packages after causual transactions and things like that.
2005-07-10 01:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]You will find the blame lies with Islam and its proclaimers.
Their hatred for Christians and the non-believer cannot be denied.
There is no excuse. And there is no pretence from them.
Therefore, understand the meaning of it. And do not place blame elsewhere. Negative. The radical Muslims have made it very clear why they hate the US and allied nations like Britain. One primary reason is that the Zionist Jews and the Christian Zionist lobby use the US and its allies to subjugate Muslim nations for the sake of Israel. The Muslims resent Western meddling in the Middle East -- and they ought to. We have no business being there except for purposes of fair trade.
George Bush is not responsible for Islamic expansion and their hatred. He has the manliness to face it and confront it. The Russian Putin agrees. The British Prime Minister agrees. Bush and Blair -- manly? LOL! You have got to be kidding me! They are two of the biggest nancy-boys on the face of the earth. They are nothing but sock puppets with Jewish hands up their asses, causing them to speak and act as they do. They are the tools being used by the Jews to wage the Jewish war against Islam.
Putin is less easily manipulated than Bush or Blair, so he didn't support the Iraq invasion. He knew darn well that Bush and Blair were full of sh!t regarding Saddam's supposed WMDs. Putin knew Bush and Blair were lying on behalf of their Jewish masters.
The muslims must remain in their place of origin. And not come to other lands in their hundreds of thousands, and murder those of other lands. And impose their ignorant Dark Age repression upon others.[/QUOTE]I agree that Muslims (at least Arab Muslims) belong in their own lands. But Jews don't belong in the West, either. Both groups are alien to the West, and each poses a danger of a different kind. Muslims can be violent fanatics (when provoked), but Jews are even worse -- they're usurpers and infiltrators. Muslims might set off suicide bombs, but Jews use political chicanery to start wars for Israel. The latter is much worse. It costs more lives and more money, and it enslaves our nations.
2005-07-10 02:08 | User Profile
Mentzer, I would dearly love to ship all of these Muslim lovers to an Arab country for a long vacation. :lol:
2005-07-10 02:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Mentzer, I would dearly love to ship all of these Muslim lovers to an Arab country for a long vacation. :lol:[/QUOTE] Not much to do on said "vacation" unless one wants to hang out in the European enclaves or take tours of ancient sites. Been to enough of the latter that I have seen enough for my taste.
2005-07-10 03:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angler]Negative. The radical Muslims have made it very clear why they hate the US and allied nations like Britain. One primary reason is that the Zionist Jews and the Christian Zionist lobby use the US and its allies to subjugate Muslim nations for the sake of Israel. The Muslims resent Western meddling in the Middle East -- and they ought to. We have no business being there except for purposes of fair trade.
Bush and Blair -- manly? LOL! You have got to be kidding me! They are two of the biggest nancy-boys on the face of the earth. They are nothing but sock puppets with Jewish hands up their asses, causing them to speak and act as they do. They are the tools being used by the Jews to wage the Jewish war against Islam.
Putin is less easily manipulated than Bush or Blair, so he didn't support the Iraq invasion. He knew darn well that Bush and Blair were full of sh!t regarding Saddam's supposed WMDs. Putin knew Bush and Blair were lying on behalf of their Jewish masters.
I agree that Muslims (at least Arab Muslims) belong in their own lands. But Jews don't belong in the West, either. Both groups are alien to the West, and each poses a danger of a different kind. Muslims can be violent fanatics (when provoked), but Jews are even worse -- they're usurpers and infiltrators. Muslims might set off suicide bombs, but Jews use political chicanery to start wars for Israel. The latter is much worse. It costs more lives and more money, and it enslaves our nations.[/QUOTE]
Incorrect.
The muslim in their millions come to Europe - explain it. I could not care less who they hate. But I will confront them - in word and action.
You deflect the blame. And you make a fool of those murdered by them.
Face the reality of life and not your notion of it. It is Islam that attacked New York, it is muslims that murdered in Madrid, it is the carpet-kissers that killed in London.
Understand the objective facts and not subjective belief.
Mentzer
2005-07-10 04:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]When you preface a post with "LOL" I do not read it.
If you wish to start again - you are welcome.
Mentzer[/QUOTE] Nah, Lol was all about your statement supporting Bush was worth. Try UnFree Republic; they take to neocons well over there.
2005-07-10 04:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]Incorrect.
The muslim in their millions come to Europe - explain it. I could not care less who they hate. But I will confront them - in word and action.
You deflect the blame. And you make a fool of those murdered by them.
Face the reality of life and not your notion of it. It is Islam that attacked New York, it is muslims that murdered in Madrid, it is the carpet-kissers that killed in London.
Understand the objective facts and not subjective belief.
Mentzer[/QUOTE] first off, don't be so sure that is was Muslims alone that carried out these attacks. And even if they did, you have to know they had plenty of real motives for what they did. It is funny we are told that "muslim fundamentalists" carry out these attacks because "we are free" or basically in other words because they don't like how we live our lives, we are infidels,etc. but then there were reports that the night before September 11th some of the hijackers were drinking in strip clubs. Does that seem like proper behavior of Muslims who are driven only by their nutty religion to do what they did?
2005-07-10 04:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]Nah, Lol was all about your statement supporting Bush was worth. Try UnFree Republic; they take to neocons well over there.[/QUOTE]
You make a mistake. I am not American and your 'neocons' reference means nothing to me. I have no knowledge of 'UnFree Republic'.
I take you on at face value - by your words. I can do no other.
I do acknowledge "LOL" and I detest it.
Mentzer
2005-07-10 04:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]first off, don't be so sure that is was Muslims alone that carried out these attacks. And even if they did, you have to know they had plenty of real motives for what they did. It is funny we are told that "muslim fundamentalists" carry out these attacks because "we are free" or basically in other words because they don't like how we live our lives, we are infidels,etc. but then there were reports that the night before September 11th some of the hijackers were drinking in strip clubs. Does that seem like proper behavior of Muslims who are driven only by their nutty religion to do what they did?[/QUOTE]
And you look for motive and wish to defend them. You do not understand the muslim - unless you are one.
Do not seek false alibi. Do not make pretence for the guilty. Do not insult me.
We will deal with them and you can speak of them.
Mentzer
2005-07-10 05:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]And you look for motive and wish to defend them. You do not understand the muslim - unless you are one.
Do not seek false alibi. Do not make pretence for the guilty. Do not insult me.
We will deal with them and you can speak of them.
Mentzer[/QUOTE]I am not defending them. And I certainly would like to see them all living in their own lands as much as you would. But yes, looking at what really motivates them to commit certain acts is important. Your words are starting to remind me of a someone who was on the news last night when talking about the attacks in London he said, something to the effect of, these terrorists are simply pure evil and that is why they do these things. LOL. I guess that is an easy way to look at it.
Have you read this interview with Osama Bin Laden. I always like to throw this up. Very interesting.
[url="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/interview.html"]www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/interview.html[/url]
[QUOTE] We will deal with them[/QUOTE] Dealing with them in the ways we have been is what causes them to feel the need to deal with you.
2005-07-10 05:12 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Mentzer, I would dearly love to ship all of these Muslim lovers to an Arab country for a long vacation. :lol:[/QUOTE]
A correct comment. More so than you may believe.
Mentzer
2005-07-10 05:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]I am not defending them. And I certainly would like to see them all living in their own lands as much as you would. But yes, looking at what really motivates them to commit certain acts is important. Your words are starting to remind me of a someone who was on the news last night when talking about the attacks in London he said, something to the effect of, these terrorists are simply pure evil and that is why they do these things. LOL. I guess that is an easy way to look at it.
Have you read this interview with Osama Bin Laden. I always like to throw this up. Very interesting.
[url="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/interview.html"]www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/interview.html[/url]
Dealing with them in the ways we have been is what causes them to feel the need to deal with you.[/QUOTE]
You lack the smartness. You are not bright. And I look at the queerness of your post. The weakness of it. The disgusting gay-boy typing.
You are something I would not waste time with.
Understand me clearly sonny.
Mentzer
2005-07-10 05:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]You lack the smartness. You are not bright.
You are something I would not waste time with.
Understand me clearly sonny.
Mentzer[/QUOTE]Let's go nuke all the evildoers that hate us because we are free. Is that what you want to hear? Would that mean that I don't "lack the smartness" LOL. And you say unless I am a muslim I can't "understand them." but yet, you seem to think you understand them. How so? are you one?
Sonny? isn't that usually applied to males?
[QUOTE] The disgusting gay-boy typing.
[/QUOTE] I have been called many things on the net, but I must admit "gay boy" is a first for me.
Starr
2005-07-10 05:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]Let's go nuke all the evildoers that hate us because we are free. Is that what you want to hear? Would that mean that I don't "lack the smartness" LOL. And you say unless I am a muslim I can't "understand them." but yet, you seem to think you understand them. How so? are you one?
Sonny? isn't that usually applied to males?
Starr[/QUOTE]
You are homosexual. Why come on here?
Is this your attempt to be manly? Little rabbit?
I am sure there must be plenty of queer sites just waiting for you.
Or do you come on here to antagonize?
Mentzer
2005-07-10 05:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]You are homosexual. Why come on here?
Is this your attempt to be manly? Little rabbit?
[/QUOTE]Ok, you got me. I do admit to having an attraction for males.
2005-07-10 05:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]Ok, you got me. I do admit to having an attraction for males.[/QUOTE]
If you are female that will explain the effete postings.
Do you wish to confirm it? Ja oder nine? Sie Ja - Sie Nie?
Nicht oder Gute Nacht?
Mentzer
2005-07-10 06:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]If you are female that will explain the effete postings.
Do you wish to confirm it?
Mentzer[/QUOTE] Well choosing a name like starr would either indicate that I am a female or possibly a male transexual porn star. I will let you decide.:wink:
But I am curious now as to how my postings are "effete"
2005-07-10 06:04 | User Profile
Gute Nacht.
Mentzer
2005-07-10 20:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]George Bush is not responsible for Islamic expansion and their hatred. He has the manliness to face it and confront it.[/QUOTE]
Yeah right. That's why he's kissing the Koran and denouncing as 'haters' and sending the full force of his own justice department after anyone who would dare follow his lead and do locally what he is supposedly doing internationally like burning down mosques?
If Bush was actively rounding up and deporting muslims and burning down mosques in this country I might believe you. Indeed, I would be cheering him on and volunteering to help.
You might counter by saying that he is only couching his rhetoric and framing the debate in a bow to the PC gods to make his war more palatable to the masses and ensure continued support for the greater 'war against islamic expansion', then I would say 1) that Bush isn't capable of holding that type of higher or noble cause, and 2) why then aren't we in Saudi Arabia?
I'm sorry Mentzer, but Bush as the noble crusader against agressive islam is laughable. Iraq is a convergence of two things: israel-first neocons in the highest levels of our current administration and Halliburton, Bechtel and Kellogg, Brown and Root making big $$. Some might also call that the practical end result of new world order globalism. Calling it anything else is just window-dressing.
2005-07-10 20:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE]
I'm sorry Mentzer, but Bush as the noble crusader against agressive islam is laughable. Iraq is a convergence of two things: israel-first neocons in the highest levels of our current administration and Halliburton, Bechtel and Kellogg, Brown and Root making big $. Anything else is just window-dressing.
[/QUOTE] Laughable, how so? Didn't "God" tell George W. to do the things he is doing?:yes:
2005-07-10 20:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]Laughable, how so? Didn't "God" tell George W. to do the things he is doing?:yes:[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's what he and his AM talk radio propagandists continue to tell all the Christian Zionists throughout middle America day after day after day. But let one of them go down and torch the local mosque in their once wholesome, Christian American community. Bush will have his (in)justice department bring highly publicized federal hate crime charges faster than you can say 'silver-spooned connecticut yankee'.
As I said, window dressing.
Just like his daddy, Jorge Bush is a simply a pimp for the new world order.
2005-07-10 21:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]
Just like his daddy, Jorge Bush is a simply a pimp for the new world order.[/QUOTE] Gabrielle's blood pressure just shot up 20 points.
I actually argued with a real live Neocon the other night; I never knew they existed outside the world of talk radio, think tanks and the Bush administration. Needless to say, it was one of the most uninspiring conversations I ever had as all he could do is repeat the tired old mantra from Hannity and Limbaugh. I'd take the run of the mill NY liberal over a neocon anyday; at least the liberal has some thought process going on.
2005-07-11 01:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]Gabrielle's blood pressure just shot up 20 points.
I actually argued with a real live Neocon the other night; I never knew they existed outside the world of talk radio, think tanks and the Bush administration. Needless to say, it was one of the most uninspiring conversations I ever had as all he could do is repeat the tired old mantra from Hannity and Limbaugh. I'd take the run of the mill NY liberal over a neocon anyday; at least the liberal has some thought process going on.[/QUOTE]
I will light a candle for you and Texas at my Bush altar tomorrow. :)
Brian, why am I not surprised that you would have so much more in common with a leftist? :huh:
2005-07-11 02:13 | User Profile
"Don't fall into the hands of Rosie O'Donnell's Jew puppeteers and Handlers. With our Bush Bashing we are giving strength to Neo conservatives and alienating the middle class American. It's time to wise up and plan for the future instead of making an ape's racket about spilt milk."
2005-07-12 16:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]I will light a candle for you and Texas at my Bush altar tomorrow. :)
Brian, why am I not surprised that you would have so much more in common with a leftist? :huh:[/QUOTE] Actually, I already repented Gabrielle. I called up my local Republican rep and was told to donate $100 to the GOP, listen to ten hours of Rush Limbaugh while chanting "mega dittos", only get my news from Fox, personally apologize to every neocon I've offended and write a personal letter to the president expressing my deepest gratitude for his brave defense of our freedom, liberty and American way of life.
2005-07-12 23:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]Actually, I already repented Gabrielle. I called up my local Republican rep and was told to donate $100 to the GOP, listen to ten hours of Rush Limbaugh while chanting "mega dittos", only get my news from Fox, personally apologize to every neocon I've offended and write a personal letter to the president expressing my deepest gratitude for his brave defense of our freedom, liberty and American way of life.[/QUOTE]
How boring... ten hours?
2005-07-13 06:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Yeah right. That's why he's kissing the Koran and denouncing as 'haters' and sending the full force of his own justice department after anyone who would dare follow his lead and do locally what he is supposedly doing internationally like burning down mosques?
If Bush was actively rounding up and deporting muslims and burning down mosques in this country I might believe you. Indeed, I would be cheering him on and volunteering to help.
You might counter by saying that he is only couching his rhetoric and framing the debate in a bow to the PC gods to make his war more palatable to the masses and ensure continued support for the greater 'war against islamic expansion', then I would say 1) that Bush isn't capable of holding that type of higher or noble cause, and 2) why then aren't we in Saudi Arabia?
I'm sorry Mentzer, but Bush as the noble crusader against agressive islam is laughable. Iraq is a convergence of two things: israel-first neocons in the highest levels of our current administration and Halliburton, Bechtel and Kellogg, Brown and Root making big $$. Some might also call that the practical end result of new world order globalism. Calling it anything else is just window-dressing.[/QUOTE]
I understand what you state.
However, the alternative may be kissing the Muslim carpet of false belief.
I prefer a strong leader. For never forget this: the Muslim wants your land and they will spit on your land. For they hate you. They will kill you. Unless you kill them. This is no debate or discussion. This is a struggle for blood and land. And American troops in Iraq should not be restricted in liberal law.They are soldiers and must act as such. Or they must return to their homeland.
And one will perish in their multitude. This is not a political exchange - it is life or death. Consider how many millions of Muslims are in Europe. And how many more that want to follow. How many that wish to sneak into your land. Consider those Muslims, English-born, that committed the London murders.
And I will support George Bush. For he is not queer. For he is not weak. And he is not afraid to confront those that wish to kill you.
And understand this: if you do not fight for your land - they will crush you. And they will take your land and despise what is left of the weak and confused.
Mentzer
2005-07-13 06:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE]
However, the alternative may be kissing the Muslim carpet of false belief.
[/QUOTE]I don't plan on accepting Allah anytime soon. but Mentzer you really need to turn off O'reilly, Hannity, and quit listening to Michael savage on the radio. and why again did those so-called terrorists do what they did in London?
2005-07-13 07:23 | User Profile
I have not heard of them.
I do not access American Radio or Television.
Perhaps an internet site?
Mentzer
2005-07-13 07:36 | User Profile
You say "so-called" terrorists?
You are in error in your little deliverance of the school-room terms.
The murders in London were planned to the last detail.
They were suicide killers. They were English-born Muslims from Leeds, England. The product of Pakistani Muslim immigrants. The stench follows it.
So.You wish to defend them? Those that fill the schools of Europe with their breed? Those that the European avoids but detests. Those that are not welcome but imposed upon us? What will you do when we rid ourselves of them?
Those killers would laugh at you. But they are hunted and dealt with by bullet or law. Take the choice. Live-or-die. It matters not.
Mentzer
2005-07-13 07:43 | User Profile
[COLOR=Black]undefined[/COLOR][QUOTE=Mentzer]You say "so-called" terrorists?
You are in error in your deliverance of the school room terms.
It was planned to the last detail.
They were suicide killers. They were English-born Muslims from Leeds, England.
So.You wish to defend them? Like the Irish Americans defended the IRA?
Are you weak? Those killers would laugh at you. But they are hunted and dealt with by bullet or law.
Mentzer[/QUOTE]
2005-07-13 09:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]
Those killers would laugh at you. Mentzer[/QUOTE] They laugh at you, too, for supporting Bush who openly welcomes millions of Muslims into the US and, thereby, provides a support network which the terrorists operate in. We can not fight Islamic terrorism abroad without dealing with the known fact that the US and Europe have welcomed with open arms a people hostile to our very way of life. Bush likes to say we must fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here; I say that if we get them out of here we won't have to fight them anywhere. The only people who profit from a continued war between the West and Islam are the Zionists, and, in a perverted way, it was they who broke down our imigration laws and brought us to this sad state in the first place. You keep trying to break things down to their most simplistic explanations; unfortunately, in life, you have to be able to look beyond your nose to see what's out there. I assure you one thing, Mr. Bush and his neocons are opposed to the very essence of traditional American life and if you support him, you support the browning of America. While this is not your country, I'm sure you realize that a healthy and stable America is the the best interests of all mankind.
2005-07-13 09:55 | User Profile
[QUOTE]
I assure you one thing, Mr. Bush and his neocons are opposed to the very essence of traditional American life and if you support him, you support the browning of America.
[/QUOTE] That does not matter, Mentzer supports Bush because he is not queer or weak. You must understand it takes strong politicians, indeed to start wars based on lies and send young men and women out to die for these lies.
2005-07-13 12:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]That does not matter, Mentzer supports Bush because he is not queer or weak. You must understand it takes strong politicians, indeed to start wars based on lies and send young men and women out to die for these lies.[/QUOTE] There's one thing the Bush administrations good at and that's lying. But, you're right, as long as he throws "terror" into every sentence and continues his mindless posturing against Emanual Goldstein, oh, I mean Osama bin Laden, then we must support him.
2005-07-13 13:27 | User Profile
As put in the original article in this post, the Jews have succeeded in turning the West into one big gigantic Tel Aviv, using scare tactics and offering their own survival tactics in case of terrorist attacks.
Bottom line: Everyone belongs in his own nation as God designed. Break God's design and you have a complete breakdown of order.
Starr, I like your style. Thank for posting that Bin Laden interview. As anyone with half a brain can see, the Muslims don't want our land or our "freedoms", they want us OUT of their land and to stop supporting the Zionists in a lopsided manner. Seems reasonable to me. Anyone who doesn't want to consider that is a lost cause and should continue listening to Sean Hannidiot and Michael "Savage" until all their brains are fried.
2005-07-13 13:51 | User Profile
What is funny is that suicide bombings have been around for years. The Tamil Tigers used them long before the Palestinians did. They only became an issue when the tactic was used against the Israelis. If there wasn't Jews involved, the Jews couldn't care less and we wouldn't hear about it.
As far as the first post is concerned, this is simply more fearmongering.
2005-07-15 04:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]As put in the original article in this post, the Jews have succeeded in turning the West into one big gigantic Tel Aviv, using scare tactics and offering their own survival tactics in case of terrorist attacks.
Bottom line: Everyone belongs in his own nation as God designed. Break God's design and you have a complete breakdown of order.
Starr, I like your style. Thank for posting that Bin Laden interview. As anyone with half a brain can see, the Muslims don't want our land or our "freedoms", they want us OUT of their land and to stop supporting the Zionists in a lopsided manner. Seems reasonable to me. Anyone who doesn't want to consider that is a lost cause and should continue listening to Sean Hannidiot and Michael "Savage" until all their brains are fried.[/QUOTE]
The Muslim intention is to take your land.
Consider the placards used by Muslims: "Islam will rule the world".
Consider the cunning words employed by Muslim "community leaders" in the cities and towns. Think of it carefully - if you are able.
Consider the Muslim violence against Europeans and Americans - within European and American cities and towns.
Consider that which is taught in mosques. Do you know?
Consider the structures built by Muslims in Europe - it is the first thing they demand. For they know the meaning of brick-and-mortar.
Consider the numerous Muslim organizations they establish in each country they infest and demand others pay for - the stupid host.
If you are smart you would know it. But then we do not all possess the experience or the smartness or the courage.
Mentzer
2005-07-15 04:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]There's one thing the Bush administrations good at and that's lying. But, you're right, as long as he throws "terror" into every sentence and continues his mindless posturing against Emanual Goldstein, oh, I mean Osama bin Laden, then we must support him.[/QUOTE]
The terror was seen in London. Perhaps that was simply a mirage of someone's mind?
Understand this: It was Muslims. And the same in Madrid. And the same in New York. And in south Russia - in a school. And they intend to do the same again.
And they do love your type.
Mentzer
2005-07-15 08:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]What is funny is that suicide bombings have been around for years. The Tamil Tigers used them long before the Palestinians did. They only became an issue when the tactic was used against the Israelis. If there wasn't Jews involved, the Jews couldn't care less and we wouldn't hear about it.
As far as the first post is concerned, this is simply more fearmongering.[/QUOTE]
The suicide bomber has murdered Europeans - and that is not funny.
Understand it clearly - they are not attacking Jews. They are killing white Europeans. And the Christian is the hated enemy of the Muslim bastard and thug.
Perhaps the meaning escapes some. Perhaps some do not understand the meaning of it.
I find the defence of Islam by Christians or otherwise, suicidal. Perhaps you do not know. Perhaps you do not wish to know and hide from it.
However, men that are not cowards or pretenders, and have no fear in the defence of their land, that are not fearful of queerness of word, that deal with it in their own way. And are strong and silent in the deeds and not weaklings and babblers.
But you will need to learn.
Mentzer
2005-07-15 08:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]The terror was seen in London. Perhaps that was simply a mirage of someone's mind?
Understand this: It was Muslims. And the same in Madrid. And the same in New York. And in south Russia - in a school. And they intend to do the same again.
And they do love your type.
Mentzer[/QUOTE]and they do these things because they hate our freedom.
And now we need to go get them all. Looking over some of your posts, You sound a bit like a "jihadist":saddam:
[QUOTE]And the Christian is the hated enemy of the Muslim bastard and thug.[/QUOTE]
2005-07-15 08:32 | User Profile
[QUOTE=starr]and they do these things because they hate our freedom.
And now we need to go get them all. Looking over some of your posts, You sound a bit like a "jihadist":saddam:[/QUOTE]
Once they are removed from my land - I may rest.
I care not for any other land and those that occupy it.
And you repeat yourself. Be correct or be nothing.
Mentzer
2005-07-15 08:33 | User Profile
Consider the placards used by Muslims: "Islam will rule the world".
Consider the cunning words employed by Muslim "community leaders" in the cities and towns. Think of it carefully - if you are able.
Consider the Muslim violence against Europeans and Americans - within European and American cities and towns.
Consider that which is taught in mosques. Do you know?
Consider the structures built by Muslims in Europe - it is the first thing they demand. For they know the meaning of brick-and-mortar.
Yes. Consider the many, many Muslims now in the West.
How'd they get here?
2005-07-15 08:35 | User Profile
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2005-07-15 08:44 | User Profile
Starr,
You are like a pampered little girl.
Like so much of your kind.
You whinge and you whine but cannot do one thing about it. You fear it.
I care nothing of fear or its consequence. I care nothing for the Muslim or Jew.
I care for my land and people. But that is beyond you.
You like to speak of it and that is all. I am different from you.
Mentzer
2005-07-15 08:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]Starr,
[QUOTE] You are like a pampered little girl.
Like so much of your kind. [/QUOTE] what is my kind? Womankind?lol:gunsmilie [QUOTE]You whinge and you whine but cannot do one thing about it. You fear it.[/QUOTE]Everyone fears somethings, some fear many things, but what are you talking about exactly when you say "you fear it?"
[QUOTE] I care nothing for the Muslim or Jew.[/QUOTE]That is funny, because you are thinking just like how the Jews want you to think. [QUOTE] I care for my land and people. But that is beyond you. [/QUOTE]Yes, you want sand niggers out of white lands, so do I. but you, also I assume, support the war in Iraq, Aghanistan, and would support bombing and attacking other parts of the Middle east to get all the "evildoers" in their lands.
2005-07-15 09:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=il ragno]Yes. Consider the many, many Muslims now in the West.
How'd they get here?[/QUOTE]
Due to effeminate Christian teaching of effete weakness and liberal politicians affected by it. The homosexuals that haunt it.
Due to the defeat of Germany, and German understanding of the ways of the world, and subsequent Jewish influence in American thinking.
I care not. I will not fight the war of morality and thought again.
I will fight for my country. And that is all.
Mentzer
2005-07-15 16:10 | User Profile
Mentzer? you are either stupid, idiot or worse and I am glad that you took my place :whstl:
Sometimes is hard for me to decide who is who here (like AngelEyes) so I am going to ask in plain English.
WHO IS A ZIONIST SO CALLED JEW HERE......As you all know I am not ashame to say that I am a Cuban and a anti-Zionist-Israeli and a pro-Palestinian.
2005-07-15 16:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]The Muslim intention is to take your land.
Consider the placards used by Muslims: "Islam will rule the world".
Consider the cunning words employed by Muslim "community leaders" in the cities and towns. Think of it carefully - if you are able.
Consider the Muslim violence against Europeans and Americans - within European and American cities and towns.
Consider that which is taught in mosques. Do you know?
Consider the structures built by Muslims in Europe - it is the first thing they demand. For they know the meaning of brick-and-mortar.
Consider the numerous Muslim organizations they establish in each country they infest and demand others pay for - the stupid host.
If you are smart you would know it. But then we do not all possess the experience or the smartness or the courage.
Mentzer[/QUOTE] Why are you obsessing on a point that everyone agrees on? There is not a single person on this board, as far as I can tell, who is giving Islam a blank check by any stretch of the imagination. But, yet, you find it necessary to roll off post after post of the same old line as if you know something we don't. BTW, most religions seek to expand and convert the world otherwise there wouldn't be Christian churches from LA to London to Tokyo and everywhere in between. That Islam seeks expansion does not surprise me; the fact that we welcome it with open arms does. And who do we have to thank for that -- big business, globalists, neocons, Zionism, multiculturalists, etc. People like Bush and Blair wrap themselves in their flags as some great anti-terror crusaders, and, yet, condemn anyone who claims that Islam is incompatible with Western life. I've heard Mr. Blair, time and time again, spew his nonsense how democracy is not unique to the Western world, and that everyone, everywhere can aspire to live as Americans and Brits do. In other words, within the souls of every Arab, Persian or Central Asian, is an inner-European yearning to break free and all we have to do is forcibly establish democracies around the world and they will flourish. Anyone who supports Bush/Blair and the rest of the globalists, multicultural leaders of the West is inevitably endorsing the destruction of not only their way of life, but their continuation as a separate and viable gene pool. After all, the end result of multiculturalism is the destruction of all culture to the establishment of a world wide order. By all means, you must fight Islam within your country, but if you limit yourself to that, it will only serve as a distraction to those with ulterior motives equal to the terrorists.
2005-07-15 16:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]Mentzer? you are either stupid, idiot or worse and I am glad that you took my place :whstl:
Sometimes is hard for me to decide who is who here (like AngelEyes) so I am going to ask in plain English.
WHO IS A ZIONIST SO CALLED JEW HERE......As you all know I am not ashame to say that I am a Cuban and a anti-Zionist-Israeli and a pro-Palestinian.[/QUOTE] Stupidity is epidemic on internet message boards. People who would be laughed at mercilessly in real life and forced to shut up somehow think that they have cover since no one can see their faces. This is why I use my real name and am known by many other patriots around America. If I say something stupid (which I do from time to time) I'm stuck with it; so, ultimately, it inspires me to do my best.
2005-07-15 16:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett] I've heard Mr. Blair, time and time again, spew his nonsense how democracy is not unique to the Western world, and that everyone, everywhere can aspire to live as Americans and Brits do. In other words, within the souls of every Arab, Persian or Central Asian, is an inner-European yearning to break free......[/QUOTE]
Brian, great post. This part of your post immediately reminded me of a line in the great Kubrick classic "Full Metal Jacket" where Private Joker was getting a lecture from the Colonel in 'Nam wherein the Colonel says:
"We are here to help the Vietnamese, because inside every gook there is an American trying to get out."
2005-07-15 17:08 | User Profile
Let's face it. In our New World Order, people - hence nations are no more than economic units to be used for the profit of the bankster NWO types.
When a group of peoples such as the native (white) citizens of a nation are bled dry with 2nd & 3rd morgages, credit card debt, ect, to the point that they can not assume anymore debt, they ure no longer usefull to the parasitic usury that now dominates the western world. But this is no problem for the parasites, they just allow unlimited immigration into the (formerly) western nation. Which brings us to the Bush, Blair, & Clinton types. They are simply the managers for the boys with the bucks who "do our most effective works behind the scenes". Which is why the sheeple are distracted by the conservative / liberal choices offered up at election time. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
It's sad that conservative - nationalist types can not put aside their differences and unite on the issues that we do agree on. That after all is the essence of real success in the political world.
After all, the NWO crowd won't be happy until there is a Wall-mart in every oassis, MTV & the rest of the Hollyvitz drivel being beamed into every igloo, yurt, & hovel on the face of the earth - payed for with your (overextended) credit card.
2005-07-16 04:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]Stupidity is epidemic on internet message boards. People who would be laughed at mercilessly in real life and forced to shut up somehow think that they have cover since no one can see their faces. This is why I use my real name and am known by many other patriots around America. If I say something stupid (which I do from time to time) I'm stuck with it; so, ultimately, it inspires me to do my best.[/QUOTE]
And you define the stupidity you refer to.
And who are you going to shut up?
You pander to the Muslim for you are ignorant of the Muslim, or perhaps, part of the Muslim. You seem to have the mind of a boy. Like so many Marxists and similar type, you use your fingers on a keyboard.
But I give you this - and this only: You are American (you state so) and you see no Muslim on your streets, you see no Mosques, you hear no Arabic. You run away and hide from the violence rather than confront it.
Do not prattle towards me. Your type is heard and dismissed. You have your say in your country - and I have my way in my country. I know the meaning of it - you do not. Do not make pretence. For you will need to do much better. You will need to be much smarter. I can read the words of a fool and it's little puppy.
I laugh at it.
Mentzer
2005-07-16 04:20 | User Profile
Now, now lads--we're gentlemen and ladies on this board--not FReepers... :1eye:
2005-07-16 04:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]Mentzer? you are either stupid, idiot or worse and I am glad that you took my place :whstl:
Sometimes is hard for me to decide who is who here (like AngelEyes) so I am going to ask in plain English.
WHO IS A ZIONIST SO CALLED JEW HERE......As you all know I am not ashame to say that I am a Cuban and a anti-Zionist-Israeli and a pro-Palestinian.[/QUOTE]
I do not give Cuba a second of my thought. That Communist Caribbean Island is of no consequence.
You are, as you state and I must assume, American.
Act like one and not as an immigrant Jamaican seeking something that does not belong to it.
Mentzer
2005-07-16 04:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]And you define the stupidity you refer to.
And who are you going to shut up?
You pander to the Muslim for you are ignorant of the Muslim, or perhaps, part of the Muslim. You seem to have the mind of a boy. Like so many Marxists and similar type, you use your fingers on a keyboard.
But I give you this - and this only: You are American (you state so) and you see no Muslim on your streets, you see no Mosques, you hear no Arabic. You run away and hide from the violence rather than confront it.
Do not prattle towards me. Your type is heard and dismissed. You have your say in your country - and I have my way in my country. I know the meaning of it - you do not. Do not make pretence. For you will need to do much better. You will need to be much smarter. I can read the words of a fool and it's little puppy.
I laugh at it.
Mentzer[/QUOTE] Can someone ban this troll please?
2005-07-16 04:37 | User Profile
I note you came on here on May 2005. Less than two months ago.
And thus you have just exposed yourself. You call someone a "troll".
You have no argument. And you print the words of a hater of this board.
As I stated - you will need to be more clever to make a fool of most on here.
Mentzer
2005-07-16 04:42 | User Profile
Maybe if Mosques were to start springing up in Brian Hasset's own 'hood, he would begin to greater appreciate Mentzer's tone of urgency.
2005-07-16 04:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]The suicide bomber has murdered Europeans - and that is not funny.
Mentzer,
Just who in the hell wrote it was funny? It bloody well wasn't me.
Understand it clearly - they are not attacking Jews. They are killing white Europeans. And the Christian is the hated enemy of the Muslim bastard and thug.
No kidding.
Perhaps the meaning escapes some. Perhaps some do not understand the meaning of it.
Most of us here on this board know quite well what it means. That is why most of us would not only kick the Muslims out, but, their co-tribalists, and the rest of the third world as well.
I find the defence of Islam by Christians or otherwise, suicidal. Perhaps you do not know. Perhaps you do not wish to know and hide from it.
I don't see the vast majority of folks here defending it. I do see folks attempting to understand their motives. Understanding why some people act the way they do is does not necessary mean approval.
However, men that are not cowards or pretenders, and have no fear in the defence of their land, that are not fearful of queerness of word, that deal with it in their own way. And are strong and silent in the deeds and not weaklings and babblers.
But you will need to learn.
You are not my teacher.
2005-07-16 04:47 | User Profile
And your view on the latest post and allegation by "Brian Hasset"?
Note its words carefully: 'Can someone ban this troll "please"?' That should give you an indication of what it is.
It has been here less than two months.
I have been here since March 2003.
Do you consider my opinion to be that of a 'troll'?
Mentzer
2005-07-16 05:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]And your view on the latest post and allegation by "Brian Hasset"?
Note its words carefully: 'Can someone ban this troll "please"?' That should give you an indication of what it is.
It has been here less than two months.
I have been here since March 2003.
Do you consider my opinion to be that of a 'troll'?
Mentzer[/QUOTE] I consider the fact that you repeat the same message regardless of the circumstances, that you attack those who agree with you for the sake of attacking them, and engage in calling people boys and girls indicative of trolldom.
"EDUMAKATEDMOFO Maybe if Mosques were to start springing up in Brian Hasset's own 'hood, he would begin to greater appreciate Mentzer's tone of urgency." Mr. Mofo, when have I ever dismissed the Islamic threat to the Western World?
2005-07-16 05:06 | User Profile
Mentzer,
No, I don't consider you to be a troll, just someone who is irritating the hell out of most folks on this thread by taking a condescending attitude towards the other posters. Look, people here agree with you in regard to Muslims. We have the same problems here, except they are called "Mexicans". (I include other third worlders from Latin America as well) The only difference between our Mexican problem and your Muslim problem is a half a generation. Then, we'll see all the problems that Europe is having to deal with. Indeed, I can argue when it comes to killing Americans that the flood from Latin American is already engaging in that. That's just like your Muslims. I live in an area that is almost surrounded by these types and I know of this sort of behavior. None of these people belong in our nations.
You're preaching to the choir here.
2005-07-16 05:15 | User Profile
Thank you for the reply.
I note your view.
I consider my country more important than simple debate or exchange with those of other nations.
Regards
Mentzer
2005-07-16 05:34 | User Profile
Mentzer,
You're welcome.
I understand your sentiments.
2005-07-16 08:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]I consider the fact that you repeat the same message regardless of the circumstances, that you attack those who agree with you for the sake of attacking them, and engage in calling people boys and girls indicative of trolldom.
"EDUMAKATEDMOFO Maybe if Mosques were to start springing up in Brian Hasset's own 'hood, he would begin to greater appreciate Mentzer's tone of urgency." Mr. Mofo, when have I ever dismissed the Islamic threat to the Western World?[/QUOTE]
I look at this and then have some understanding of the nonsense presented by and from it.
And it does not understand the 'circumstances' at this time and place. It is ignorant of it. It knows not of it.
It then feels set-upon. A weakling of first order. A little boy or girl - I know not.
However, I do not recognize the strange term 'trolldom'. Not in the German or English language can I find it. Perhaps it may be found in a comic book or such like.
Consider this fact: I detest cowards and effetes. Be they from my land or some other place.
Mentzer
2005-07-16 14:06 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]I look at this and then have some understanding of the nonsense presented by and from it.
And it does not understand the 'circumstances' at this time and place. It is ignorant of it. It knows not of it.
It then feels set-upon. A weakling of first order. A little boy or girl - I know not.
However, I do not recognize the strange term 'trolldom'. Not in the German or English language can I find it. Perhaps it may be found in a comic book or such like.
Consider this fact: I detest cowards and effetes. Be they from my land or some other place.
Mentzer[/QUOTE] Thanks for proving my point Mentzer.
2005-07-16 16:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]I do not give Cuba a second of my thought. That Communist Caribbean Island is of no consequence.
You are, as you state and I must assume, American.
Act like one and not as an immigrant Jamaican seeking something that does not belong to it.
Mentzer[/QUOTE]
Mentzer? I am an American by accident because my mothers happens to be an American but from her and my dad, who went to Georgia Tech, I learned the real meaning of freedom and then I joined the US Army where I fought for that freedom.
What was is now not and I don't think that it will ever be as it was thanks to the support and influence of the Jews in America and on the American people.
Tell me this, how many movies have you seen where the Arabs or Muslims played the part of the good guys or [U]where Jews played the part of the bad guys?[/U]
As a matter of fact how many movies about Arabs or Muslims have you seen on American tv or theatre? compared to Jewish movies?
Last week they had seven movies about the Jews on satellige tv and they were all about "poor me, poor me, they are always picking on me", I called the Dish Network and told them to knock it off with all that propaganda.
And then you have Bush and his war on "terrorist' but what can I say? you already know the harm that he is doing to this country and to the whole world with the two open wars that we have in our hands at this time thanks to the influence of the Jews on his pissed poor mind, if he had a mind.
Where do I stand as a American-Cuban? simple, if Cuba were to invade America I would fight against them......if America were to invade Cuba I would fight against America but if both countries were to fight in a outside country then it is up to them because they have no right to take their war to a third country. I see this happening in Latin America with Venezuela probably being the place.
You and those of the government who are reading this may think of me as a traitor but let me ask you this....have you ever asked of a Jew if they would fight against the Zionist state of Israel if ordered by the president of the US? I have and the answer was always NO even if they were born here in the US.
Palestinians will never be free because what Sharon and the US have is nothing more than a mind game with the world but we know better, don't we?
[B]"When the truth comes into the light the lies will hide in the dark"...[/B]Ponce
2005-07-18 14:49 | User Profile
One of your more eloquent posts.
[QUOTE=Ponce] Tell me this, how many movies have you seen where the Arabs or Muslims played the part of the good guys or [u]where Jews played the part of the bad guys?[/u]
...Ponce[/QUOTE] Considering who the power brokers in Hollywood are, no problem guessing. However, I've seen some stuff on NPR and regular media about how rough it is to live as a Paletsinian in Israel. Been a few years since I watched any, but the documentaries are out there. Just not all that well publicized. Gee, I wonder why?
That topic, I think, deserves Michael Moore's talents as a propagandist. :dry: