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Thread ID: 19019 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2005-07-07
2005-07-07 09:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Paul Harvey, the 86 year-old radio commentator and news journalist who uses the catchy phrase, “Good day!” to round out his broadcasts, may have made a not so good day for himself with recent comments on his radio show. Harvey, who is syndicated by Disney/ABC Radio on more than 1,000 radio stations across the U.S., reaches approximately 1.8 million listeners a week.
About 12 minutes into his June 23 broadcast, he confided in listeners that he had been “choking on something for weeks” and wanted to “get it up and get it out for what it’s worth.”
Using a quote from Winston Churchill to launch into an emotional 3-minute soliloquy about the conquests of America’s past, he said, “After the attack on Pearl Harbor, Winston Churchill said that the American people…’ didn’t come this far because we are made of sugar candy.’”
Beginning with reminiscing on the act of dropping an atomic weapon on Japan at the end of World War II, Harvey proceeded to name a string of what many would call barbaric acts on the part of the American people. Apparently, his goal was to invoke an historical sense of a strong and decisive America that acts swiftly in the face of grave circumstances, such as war.
Without skipping a beat, Harvey fast-forwarded to the tragedy of 9/11, while continuing to insist that we are not made of “sugar candy” (lest we forget). Continued Harvey, “So, following the New York disaster, we mustered our humanity. We gave old pals a pass, even though men and money from Saudi Arabia were largely responsible for the devastation of New York and Pennsylvania and our Pentagon. We called Saudi Arabians our partners against terrorism and we sent men with rifles into Afghanistan and Iraq, and we kept our best weapons in our silos. Even now we’re standing there dying, daring to do nothing decisive, because we’ve declared ourselves to be better than our terrorist enemies- more moral, more civilized.”
Apparently, Americans are unaware that they have a violent history they can draw on during wartime to find the moxie to do things like drop nuclear warheads on a sovereign nation. Is it possible he was suggesting that one horrific act of violence, visited on hundreds of thousands of innocent people, would be more suitable than typical combat because it is more decisive?
Yet Paul Harvey’s bizarre personal manifesto on what is wrong with the American psyche truly saved the worst for last, saying,
“Once upon a time, we elbowed our way onto and into this continent by giving smallpox infected blankets to Native Americans. Yes, that was biological warfare! And we used every other weapon we could get our hands on to grab this land from whomever. And we grew prosperous. And, yes, we greased the skids with the sweat of slaves. And so it goes with most nation-states, which, feeling guilty about their savage pasts, eventually civilize themselves out of business and wind up invaded, and ultimately dominated by the lean, hungry and up-and-coming who are not made of sugar candy.”[/QUOTE]
It was inevitable that the well-founded fear and unease at casually using nuclear weapons would become passe over time, especially to a nation used to solving problems with the click of a remote control. So it's not surprising to find the FR mob in full-throated agreement with this 86-year-old lunatic:
He mentioned that in WW2, America developed the atom bomb, and in two swift blows (Hiroshima & Nagasaki), and we ended the war. In these days, "we have mustered our humanity to prove that we aren't like our attackers". He also said that we have kept our "best weapons in their silos".
I believe Mr. Harvey might be in favor of a couple "swift blows" to prove who we are....because we're not made of sugar candy.
1 posted on 06/23/2005 7:33:08 PM PDT by hoagy62 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 Do we have at least two independent sources to confirm what Harvey claims? He's not the most reliable.
2 posted on 06/23/2005 7:34:53 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Remind Liberal Cowards Why America Freed Iraq: [url]http://massgraves.info/[/url]) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 "Anyone hear Paul Harvey today?"
Presumably somebody did. He's on a lot of radio stations.
3 posted on 06/23/2005 7:36:17 PM PDT by Moral Hazard (According to the Catholic church the Capybara is a fish.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 BTTT. Fine words.
4 posted on 06/23/2005 7:36:19 PM PDT by perfect stranger ("Hell Bent for Election" by Warburg) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 I heard him and he said what I've been saying since the start of the war. More bombs, less bullets.
5 posted on 06/23/2005 7:36:52 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: Moral Hazard
6 posted on 06/23/2005 7:38:10 PM PDT by perfect stranger ("Hell Bent for Election" by Warburg) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]
To: South40 I'm with Harvey ! Why let more American boys come home in a casket when we've got the weapons to end this war NOW ! F it !
7 posted on 06/23/2005 7:39:24 PM PDT by sushiman [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 I was actually surpised at what I heard Paul Harvey say today. It sounded like he advocated nuking Saudi Arabia!
8 posted on 06/23/2005 7:40:04 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 I heard his morning report today (Thurs 6/23). The piece about the A-bomb and Churchill and "sugar candy" are about 2:50 into the commentary. The audio is available on his web site - [url]http://www.paulharvey.com[/url]. Click on the Thursday morning commentary.
9 posted on 06/23/2005 7:41:04 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 Don't forget about the "we gave the Indians blankets infested with small pox as a form of germ warfare," crack. I think Mr. Harvey is suggesting that America "nuts up" and opens up a can of whoop-ass on Islamic terrorism.
10 posted on 06/23/2005 7:42:59 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 Paul Harvey is the BEST!!!!!!!!!! Thank you Mr. Harvey for what you mean to America. You are truly one of the last " True Conservatives"!!!!
11 posted on 06/23/2005 7:43:49 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 Mr. Harvey is correct. I've listened to him since 1973. Today he was right on.
12 posted on 06/23/2005 7:48:20 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: Incorrigible ...." It sounded like he advocated nuking Saudi Arabia!".... Do it now, or do it later. I don't think we can be on the same planet without one of us changing our minds, and mine ain't gonna change!
13 posted on 06/23/2005 7:50:29 PM PDT by chuckles [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]
To: infidel29 I think you hit it on the button, infidel29. Harvey was saying that yes, we have done some bad stuff to our enemies in the past and that we should be able to do it again instead of crumbling. It's a war, dammit. Just one of our missile subs could unload and take care of the whole problem. That would definitely qualify as an open can of whoop-ass.
14 posted on 06/23/2005 7:50:41 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]
To: Incorrigible I understand that what we say here may not influence like someone of Mr. Harveys status but he is right. A nuke or ten on various mid east sites would sure make me a lot happier. And it would sure stop our boys from dying for these turds.
15 posted on 06/23/2005 7:52:30 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]
To: Joe Boucher Mr. Harvey is correct. I've listened to him since 1973. And I think my late grandfather listened to him back in '33.
16 posted on 06/23/2005 7:54:13 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Out of the mainstream..........................and better off for it!!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]
To: Bosco I heard it today too. It was Paul Harvey at his best. I was a little surprised to hear him speak so bluntly, but he was spot on.
17 posted on 06/23/2005 7:54:38 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers (Freud was wrong. It's all about "Roe v. Wade") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 I dont think you take on a bunch of mideastern religious fanatics who are fighting an asymetrical war by dropping atomic bombs on them....we are winning with what we are doing
18 posted on 06/23/2005 8:01:37 PM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: woofie This is largely a guerrilla conflict. Nukes are just too indiscriminate. Someone once said it would be like trying to kill athletes foot with a sledge hammer: one smashed foot and the fungus unharmed.
19 posted on 06/23/2005 8:07:35 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's the difference between Joseph Goebbels and Michael Moore? About 150 pounds.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies ]
To: CrazyIvan agreed
20 posted on 06/23/2005 8:08:54 PM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies ]
To: newzjunkey Gotta be a little skeptical of good ole Paul. I have caught him more than once reading stories outta the Weekly World News- aka Bat Boy et al.(the B&W rag that saves money on color ink, so they can put it into the journalism)
21 posted on 06/23/2005 8:09:40 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 This may sound really bad. I swear to God that I thought Paul Harvey passed away years ago.
22 posted on 06/23/2005 8:10:44 PM PDT by junaid [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 Amercans "did not get where they were by being made of sugar candy". I will grant you this ...if The American people are exemplified by Ted Kennedy then we are now made of marshmallows and bourbon
23 posted on 06/23/2005 8:11:33 PM PDT by woofie ("Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!!") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: Bosco I've always admired PH and I don't know why I never bothered to see if he had a web site. Thank you for the link. Now I know...
...the rest of the story.
24 posted on 06/23/2005 8:11:54 PM PDT by shotokan (Peas through superior fertilizer!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies ]
To: Joe Boucher Why can't we give an ultimatum: "You do one more beheading, blow up one more of our soldiers, or attack anything in US or world, we will evaporate your Mecca and Medina and continue with other sources of "jihad"!" Enough!!!
Now is your move!!!
25 posted on 06/23/2005 8:12:12 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies ]
To: Michael.SF. your point? Or are you criticizing your grandfather? The man that helped make you who and what you are for whatever reason.
26 posted on 06/23/2005 8:20:09 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 I believe Mr. Harvey might be in favor of a couple "swift blows" to prove who we are....because we're not made of sugar candy. ...it was SWEET. :D
27 posted on 06/23/2005 8:20:49 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: Leo Carpathian That has been my thoughts since the first tower fell.
28 posted on 06/23/2005 8:21:11 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 I didn't know Paul Harvey was still broadcasting
29 posted on 06/23/2005 8:23:06 PM PDT by fso301 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: infidel29 Don't forget about the "we gave the Indians blankets infested with small pox as a form of germ warfare," crack. Wrong Churchill. He is talking about Winstin, not Ward.
30 posted on 06/23/2005 8:26:40 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]
To: Incorrigible I was listening at work and thought WTF? Is Paul really telling it like it is? How can this be allowed through the media filters...hehe
I think what he was saying was that we can decide to win 100%, or we can try to be popular with the international community, and second guess our every action.
He sounded disgusted with the hand wringers, whiners, and cry babies who seem to forget just who started this mess...
All the dems talk about is Gitmo, Abu Gharib, Halliburton, Evil Rove, Stupid Bush, oh woe is me...
They seem to look for reasons to spit on America, and then wonder why they keep losing elections....I don't recall a democrat "plan" for anything since 1992.
Although Clinton's plans were bad, we should at least give the bastard credit for pretending to have a "solution", as opposed to the current dems who only run ....
....against America, for nothing....
31 posted on 06/23/2005 8:30:00 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]
To: Incorrigible I was actually surprised at what I heard Paul Harvey say today. It sounded like he advocated nuking Saudi Arabia! Well, I guess that makes me a staunch Paul Harvey ally...
Nuke Mecca and Islam is over, finished. No more bowing and praying to a rock everyday for hundreds of millions. They can have their pilgrimage and martyrdom all in one trip.
Good-day...
32 posted on 06/23/2005 8:30:28 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]
To: CrazyIvan This is largely a guerrilla conflict...one smashed foot and the fungus unharmed. FINE...precision guided 3/4 kilotons neutron warheads...ask them, "Do you REALLY want to fight a war? THINK ABOUT IT, AHAB!"..the aggressor always sets the rules, the Arabs/Jihadists, must understand this...NO more Somalias. :P
33 posted on 06/23/2005 8:36:57 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies ]
To: skinkinthegrass I say lets do it!! it'll save american lives, save our economy, and get a HUGE message across to the rest of the evil world out there.
34 posted on 06/23/2005 8:43:21 PM PDT by annelizly [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies ]
To: junaid I was thinking the same thing. He isn't on any station local to me which I am aware of, so I haven't heard him in atleast 10 years. Wondering if I was confusing his passing with that of Mike Royko in 1997???
35 posted on 06/23/2005 8:54:25 PM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (Celebrate E Pluribus Unum) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 YES, I heard him.......he was GREAT!
36 posted on 06/23/2005 8:59:14 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: Joe Boucher Or are you criticizing your grandfather? How could you possibly interpret that comment as a criticism of my Grandfather?
Paul Harvey is old. As much as I have enjoyed him over the years, it is time for him to retire.
37 posted on 06/23/2005 9:18:07 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Out of the mainstream..........................and better off for it!!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies ]
To: Michael.SF. with age comes wisdom...listen to him
38 posted on 06/23/2005 9:33:25 PM PDT by tina07 (Bush/Cheney'04) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 I was rooting for a little nuke "shock and awe" action in Iraq in 2003, not to mention doing the "B-52 Overture" on Fallujah.
Between Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea, etc., we're gonna end up nuking somebody soon.
(Does this count as "advocating violence" ? )
39 posted on 06/23/2005 9:38:03 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: tina07 with age comes wisdom...listen to him Back in '85 or so, Paul Harvey did one of his "rest of the story" segments regarding how 'Danny Boy' came to be written. The story was so moving and his rendition so perfect, that I literally was getting teary eyed as he told the story:
'and before the first snows fell in the mountains, the second son answered the call of the pipes. And before the first flowers of spring had reached their bloom, another star was hung in the window...'
I related that story at a dinner party and two other guys there said they heard the story and they to found themselves getting teary eyed.
I have listened to Paul Harvey and found him to be wonderfully insightful in many ways. But I stand by what I have said, it is time that he retire.
40 posted on 06/23/2005 10:01:46 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Out of the mainstream..........................and better off for it!!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies ]
To: Michael.SF. Well, 'tis true his mind ain't as sharp as it once was, but he's still the best at what he does.
41 posted on 06/23/2005 10:07:15 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Revolution is now the ONLY option.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies ]
To: Joe Boucher Mr. Harvey is correct. I've listened to him since 1973. I listened to him in 1953. Had no idea the man was still alive today. Whom should we bomb, did he say?
42 posted on 06/24/2005 5:15:37 AM PDT by Graymatter [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]
To: woofie I dont think you take on a bunch of mideastern religious fanatics who are fighting an asymetrical war by dropping atomic bombs on them....we are winning with what we are doing IMHO we will never win a final victory as long as Mideastern religious fanatics exist. All we can hope to do is diminish the symptoms with the present approach. In order to effect a total cure we need to destroy the cause, Islam!
43 posted on 06/24/2005 5:23:36 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies ]
To: chuckles Nukes have a 100% deterrent value and only a 20% tactical value in our arsenal. To use nukes would not accomplish objectives. This is a war without nationalities or national boundaries. You can't eliminate cockroaches with a shotgun, although you can kill a bunch of them and make yourself feel good. You need to use roach spray. Nuke talk is irresponsible and is what gives us a real problem as conservatives, appearing unbalanced and "over the top". As Pres. Bush said, this will be a long war. It will be "hard work". no quick"nuke" fixes here.Our military is doing us proud...and most Americans feel that way right now. We have had complete military success with minimal casualties. We are operating in this theater like a precision surgeon, and will achieve our objectives. Lets not become the butcher, and destroy our patient.
44 posted on 06/24/2005 5:42:13 AM PDT by photodawg [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies ]
To: Michael.SF. oh but you meant that paul was to old to be correct about what he was saying. that he may have been relevent during grandpas time but not anymore, too old? pauls show of 15 minutes a day was the forerunner to all conservative talk shows like rush. Ask rush if paul is relevant. your grandpa would not be proud.
45 posted on 06/24/2005 6:02:42 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies ]
To: PLMerite I was rooting for a little nuke "shock and awe" action in Iraq in 2003, not to mention doing the "B-52 Overture" on Fallujah...Between Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea, etc., we're gonna end up nuking somebody soon. Its' been said, that the widespread use of PGMs has NOT "Shocked & Awed" (Psychological wounded) the non Iraqi/Arab fighter..it has defeated the Iraqi populace, they were there during GWI/GWII..the fighters were "imported" after the conflict.
46 posted on 06/24/2005 6:06:10 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies ]
To: Graymatter the saudis are not our friends. that in years past our leaders weren't afraid to take unpopular steps to take down an enemy to save american mens lives. that our best weapons are left in their silos and that a very few used on certain targets would show the world we are not to be trifeled with.
good sound statements in my book he also said that a paper tiger dies from within when the tiger refuses to use its power.
47 posted on 06/24/2005 6:07:25 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies ]
To: Joe Boucher oh but you meant that paul was to old to be correct about what he was saying. that he may have been relevent during grandpas time but not anymore, too old? Do you always purposefully add words and meanings to what people say? This is the second time you have assumed facts which were not there. I never said Paul was incorrect and I never said he was "not relevant". What I did say was it is time for him to retire. The man is approaching 90, his voice is fading and it pains me to listen to him.
48 posted on 06/24/2005 7:38:18 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Out of the mainstream..........................and better off for it!!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 I heard him. He seemed to urge use of nukes in Iraq and thought it was ok to use disease-ridden blankets to try rid us of Indians.
I think he's wrong on both counts.
49 posted on 06/24/2005 8:14:23 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (don't piss on my koran and tell me it's raining.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: skinkinthegrass There is a very large psychological component to war. Merely outmaneuvering an enemy's military and defeating him on the battlefield is not enough. One must pound home to the general population that if they resist their lives are forfeit. Witness the difference between Germany after WWI where they could claim they were "stabbed in the back" and WWII where their cities were bombed flat. Took all the fight out of them.
I'm not one to advocate gratuitous violence (okay, maybe some) but if the "Arab Street" isn't cowed, then the war sin't over. A little napalm and carpet bombing will go a long way to preventing more trouble.
But, we're not going to learn that until it's too late and we really have to resort to nuclear weapons.
50 posted on 06/24/2005 10:00:18 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies ]
To: PLMerite There is a very large psychological component to war..One must pound home to the general population that if they resist their lives are forfeit..if the "Arab Street" isn't cowed, then the war sin't over. A little napalm and carpet bombing will go a long way to preventing more trouble. ..short and concise. :/
51 posted on 06/24/2005 1:43:47 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 swift blows to Mecca and Medina?
52 posted on 06/24/2005 10:40:47 PM PDT by antmanbee [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: perfect stranger that paul harvey photo taken in 1923?
53 posted on 06/24/2005 10:41:39 PM PDT by antmanbee [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies ]
To: Joe Boucher A small one on the current Supreme court might do wonders for Americans future rights.
54 posted on 06/24/2005 10:44:31 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies ]
To: antmanbee Some would suggest just that.
55 posted on 06/24/2005 10:49:20 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Revolution is now the ONLY option.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies ]
To: skinkinthegrass why are we "pounding home" anything to anybody? what are we pounding home in IRAQ?
56 posted on 06/24/2005 11:04:32 PM PDT by antmanbee [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies ]
To: hoagy62 ..um..uh..good day!
57 posted on 06/24/2005 11:06:23 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: Joe Boucher nuke them. kill their false god and turn it to radioactive glass for a half life of 50000 years.
the piecemeal approach is inadequate at their current rate of reproduction.
58 posted on 06/24/2005 11:14:34 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (I remember when conservative meant, CUTTING the government's POWER and SIZE down.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]
To: Joe Boucher the saudis are not our friends.
bears repeating.
59 posted on 06/24/2005 11:15:36 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (I remember when conservative meant, CUTTING the government's POWER and SIZE down.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies ]
To: Robert_Paulson2 cutting the govt? Not with this "conservative administration". I knew we were in trouble when kennedy wrote Mr. Bushs first education bill and gave away the farm. Intrusion in every facet of life is not AMERICA, is it?
60 posted on 06/24/2005 11:27:06 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies ]
To: Bosco That would be the right thing to do for us, but you know what stands in the way.
61 posted on 06/24/2005 11:44:57 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies ]
2005-07-07 12:35 | User Profile
IR,
I could only read half of this b.s. from these morons. This idea of nuking the Middle East has been around, courtesy of the moonbats of talk radio for a long time. I wonder if these idiots have enough sense to think about just how in the hell are they going to drive if Saudi Arabia were nuked? I know the idiots would reply that "we only get 14% of our oil from the Middle East and we could make it up elsewhere." Where in the hell do they suppose the rest of the world gets their oil? I wonder if they have considered that Pakistan has nukes too, and some of them might get "lost"? Oh yeah, nuke them for good measure. Well, how about this? All that fallout has to go somewhere and the winds do blow to the northwest at times. That could wind up on-- God forbid on the nation whose ass they love to kiss the most, Israel. We won't even go into what the Russians and the Chinese might think about this and what they might do.
A person could write a book outlining every bad consequence that could result from this.
These fools need to turn off the damn radio and quit using the Internet for an online cheerleading session and start using it for research. They might then realise just what a collection of stupid emoters they truly are. The old saw about the Bourbons applies to the freepers and dittoheads.
2005-07-07 13:08 | User Profile
If all Americans were like freepers, then this nation would absolutely deserve to have nukes smuggled into all of its cities and then set off.
2005-07-07 13:14 | User Profile
Of course, idiotic, demented cowards like those on FreeRepublic would call for "nuke the ragheads". No surprise there, coming from the 101st Keyboard Bombardiers Division.
However, it's always the other guy's problem to actually carry out the annihilation of millions of innocent people just because of the actions of a few hundred extremists.
Nevermind the actions of their own beloved, one-party US Government in creating the terrorists themselves by siding up with Israel 100% and propping up Arab dictators to serve US interests at the expense of the Arab masses. No, I guess all subtlety is lost on the weak and vacuous minds of FreeRepublicans.
2005-07-07 16:21 | User Profile
Nuke Saudi Arabia for 9/11? the same way that we are at "war" in Iraq because of those nasty WMD's ?
What evidence is there that the Saudis had to do anything with 9/11, a passport of a "terrorist" that was the only one to suvive the twin towers "inferno"? that passport must be the property of Superman and made out of Kripton.
And now you have London, four different explossions at four different locations withing one hour, ha.
For now they are calling it a terrorist attack but have not blamed the Muslims or Arabs therefor the Israelis are also included in this so called terrorist attack.
Rumfeld said that the US must be ready to fight two wars at the same time Iraq and any other country that might be a danger to the US like Iran, China or North Korea.......... CHINA?????? can you see the US fighting China? 270 millions people in the US vs over one billion in China, use nukes against China? they also have it and as you know that all their war machines and factories are now under ground.
Again, China would not attack the US directly but would instead attack the countries around it and then use those countries as a shield in order to make war on the US therefore by using nuke on China the US would only kill civilians, I believe that as long as China leaves Russia alone the Russia would not make war on China.
But of course the US is very famous at this time for killing the innocent , like in Iraq where over 130,000 innocent people have been killed and I am not even counting those who have died and are dying because of the those nasty radiating projectiles being used by the US, Iraqis as well as American troops.
And then you have the Ace in the hole, the Zionists, the state of Israel would jump in banwagon and try to do something in order to get hold of more territories.......oh well, get ready for what is to come because is not a matter of "if" but "when" and the when is getting closer and closer.
2005-07-10 17:15 | User Profile
All war in a "civilized" society is based on lies. To say we have been warring forever and is such our right and will is a misguided idea at best. When one wishes to be free yet not adhere to thier very own rules that person can never be free, nor anyone else. If freedom is advocated then one must adimatly refuse war; war is the substitutiuon of new rules to fit another situation. If america refused to back anyone who promotes or causes conflict there would soon be a radical change in world affairs. Unfortunatly we (US citizen) have been brainwashed to accept and promote war. If you ask individuals personally if they would advance or support any war the answer is always no. One must consider the dis-associated costs of such behavior. Yes war is a behavior. It must also be put in context; it is easy to say WAR WAR, when one has never had a piece of lead whiz by their head at 3000 feet per second. The first time it happens to you your whole moronic brainwashed attitiude toward such things will change instantly. There is areason why the evening news with all of its already inherent negativity does not cover war with any type of certitude. I've been in a room with people who ended up balling and starring off into space after they have seen real war footage. I have been next to grown men who randomly start dripping tears whilke sitting on their evening chair, soldiers. No seasoned soldier feels tough, and they would certainly never say "bring em on". Unless of course they have never had lead whizing past their body. Nukes and bombs are the ultimate in disgust, putrid. Have you ever smelled the air after one of our bombs have gone off?
Sean
2005-07-10 17:33 | User Profile
Datavirtue? I don't know if you are talking to me or someone else, if it is to me then it was way above my head, however I would like to make a comment in the part about the American people "not choosing war"l
As you know we have no choice as to who we fight because that's up to the president......I won't dare say "up to the government" because that's no longer the case.
We can't even ask "why" but all we can do is to send our young men to die. :angry:
2005-07-10 17:36 | User Profile
What a shame. I remember listening to the old fellow ten years ago and he was a decided midwestern isolationist of the old school. Senility is a sad thing to behold. That some crazy freeper jewpuppets would take such a thing seriously is of course not suprising.
2005-07-10 17:57 | User Profile
About a year or so back, Mr. Harvey was bragging about how well the U.S. economy was doing, and the reason for this was...Wall Mart!
I have not listened to him since.
:whlch:
2005-07-11 15:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=datavirtue]Yes war is a behavior. It must also be put in context; it is easy to say WAR WAR, when one has never had a piece of lead whiz by their head at 3000 feet per second. Sean[/QUOTE]
A very succinct and well said analysis on the cowardly people who post on Free Republic and/or watch pro-war FOX "News". Aside from never having bullets fly by their craniums, most of the pro-war crowd probably has never had to kill another human being either or deal with the psycological effects of doing such things in a real war. What's worse is that the majority of current politicians who order men to kill and be killed for a bunch of hocus pocus have never been in a hot war themselves.
So, it's all downhill from here, when the lunatics run the asylum.