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Thread ID: 18863 | Posts: 6 | Started: 2005-06-27
2005-06-27 19:47 | User Profile
This brought to mind when a few years back one of Nixon's tapes revealed Graham complaing to Nixon about the Jews' excessive influence. Today's Graham was then forced to issue a public apology, thereby proving the truth of what he had said.
2005-07-01 13:57 | User Profile
Clinton & Graham
[url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45083[/url]
My observations from this article: - There were signs and conversations in at least 6 different languages. I suspect these people were already living here. Only in America! - After Hillary got an endorsement from Graham, she went to a gay parade the next day - When Graham said that Hillary should run the country, the crowd cheered. - Billy Clinton seemed that Graham had won the official seal of approval for preaching only to "integrated audiences"
I wonder what the details were behind Graham allowing the Clintons up there and endorsing them ? Money ? Favors ? Both ?
2005-07-01 14:45 | User Profile
It was time for Graham to retire. Although I respect much of what he has done over the years, his backbone seems to have atrophied badly over the last decade or so.
2005-07-01 20:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Quantrill]It was time for Graham to retire. Although I respect much of what he has done over the years, his backbone seems to have atrophied badly over the last decade or so.[/QUOTE]
Age will do that to you. Think of George Wallace, Barry Goldwater, William F. Buckley...
2005-07-01 21:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JoseyWales]Clinton & Graham
[url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45083[/url]
My observations from this article: - There were signs and conversations in at least 6 different languages. I suspect these people were already living here. Only in America! - After Hillary got an endorsement from Graham, she went to a gay parade the next day - When Graham said that Hillary should run the country, the crowd cheered. - Billy Clinton seemed that Graham had won the official seal of approval for preaching only to "integrated audiences"
I wonder what the details were behind Graham allowing the Clintons up there and endorsing them ? Money ? Favors ? Both ?[/QUOTE]Well I didn't realy see it as a serious political endorsement, although it certainly seemed like at least a personal one. But its a bit like the pap you here at church rallies. If Emmett Thomas comes up the preacher will often say he's always been a Cowboy fan, la de da.
[QUOTE]When President Clinton finally surrendered the microphone back to Dr. Graham, in what I can only excuse as a moment of weakness, Dr. Graham said, "I told President Clinton that when he left office, he should be an evangelist because he has all the right gifts for it, and he should leave his wife to run the country." [/QUOTE]
WN's really can hardly themselves claim as a group to be immune to occasional pandering to Democratic candidates anyway. What bothers me a lot more than his vague endorsement of Hillary as a potential president is his endorsement of Bill Clinton as an evangelist. Sure Bill is a great people person, who could do great in any sort of position. Is Billy Graham really saying, even jokingly, that we should look to these types of Clintonian personal qualities in the people we pick as evangelists? How can a preacher preach against sin, then suggest they follow the chief of sinners?
It is true that Clinton gets what he wants in NYC. But how can a preacher urge people to reject wordliness and pressures, when he himself visibly fawns over it, especially to the plain determinent of his own moral principles?
I think Billy Graham has taken some good stands in his life, and preachers have their own temptations and trials. But I'd have to say this shows a decay not only in his physical, but his moral fiber, as he ages. Not all people age gracefully, as you note Buster. But I'd hope for a better end for a great ministry.
2005-07-01 22:38 | User Profile
I suppose my two main items I find displeasure with are the signs in so many languages for people probably already living here, and the fact that the crowd cheered when Hillary was mentioned. That says alot.