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2005-06-23 00:38 | User Profile
More Jewish Whine...
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[url]http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-academy-religion,0,4993937.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines[/url]
Religious Insensitivity Cited at Academy By ROBERT WELLER Associated Press Writer
June 22, 2005, 8:04 PM EDT
AIR FORCE ACADEMY, Colo. -- A Pentagon investigation into complaints that evangelical Christians at the Air Force Academy have bullied Jews and cadets of other faiths found no overt discrimination, but "certainly insensitivity," military officials said Wednesday.
"There is a lack of awareness on the part of some faculty and staff, and perhaps some senior cadets, as to what constitutes appropriate expressions of faith," said Lt. Gen. Roger Brady, Air Force deputy chief of staff for personnel.
The investigators' report said academy leaders and the Air Force should clarify policies on religious expression so religious minorities do not feel discriminated against or pressured.
Seven incidents were referred up the chain of command for possible investigation, but Brady did not provide details. He said "there's certainly insensitivity" at the academy.
The investigators' report came on the same day that a chaplain who spoke out against religious intolerance at the academy, Capt. MeLinda Morton, said she had resigned her commission after 13 years in uniform. She has said that she was fired from her chaplaincy at the school and that a transfer to Japan was hastened for speaking out about the academy's religious climate.
School officials said her transfer was routine.
Air Force investigators spent several days at the 4,300-student school near Colorado Springs earlier this year, looking into complaints that evangelical Christians wield so much influence at the school that anti-Semitism and other forms of religious harassment have become pervasive. About 85 percent of the academy's students identify themselves as Christian.
There have been complaints at the academy that a Jewish cadet was told the Holocaust was revenge for the death of Jesus and that another Jew was called a Christ killer by a fellow cadet. A banner in the football team's locker room read: "I am a Christian first and last ... I am a member of Team Jesus Christ."
Also, there have been complaints that cadets were pressured to attend chapel, that academy staffers put New Testament verses in government e-mail, and that cadets used the e-mail system to encourage others to see the Mel Gibson movie "The Passion of the Christ."
Brady said some problems were related to the maturity level of cadets ages 18 to 22. "Most of them know how to behave," he said. "Some of them need a little work."
The report did not give details but said that there were religious slurs and disparaging remarks between cadets, and that faculty and staff with strong religious beliefs made statements that some cadets found offensive. It said the situation has improved.
"We've got a long way to go," said the academy's superintendent, Lt. Gen. John Rosa Jr. "I believe today's report substantiates that we're heading in the right direction."
[B]Rep. Steve Israel, D-N.Y., contended the report tried to "explain away" problems with religious intolerance at the school.
"It is not a whitewash, but it does resemble a milquetoast," Israel said at a Capitol Hill news conference. "There needs to be leadership at the Air Force Academy."[/B]
[B]An attachment to the 100-page report said the school's No. 2 officer, Brig. Gen. John Weida, a born-again Christian accused of pressuring students, was cleared of wrongdoing on all but one allegation. The report did not detail the matter, saying only it was under review.
The Air Force recently announced Weida's pending promotion to major general, a move the Anti-Defamation League said should be delayed because of the conduct complaints.[/B]
The controversy arose as the school was trying to emerge from a 2003 rape scandal in which dozens of women said their complaints were ignored. The Air Force ousted several top commanders and overhauled a number of policies related to assault allegations.
2005-06-23 01:14 | User Profile
ADL Welcomes U.S. Air Force Recommendations In Response To Religious Intolerance At Academy
New York, NY, June 22, 2005 ââ¬Â¦ The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) welcomed the efforts outlined today by the U.S. Air Force to address the climate of religious intolerance at the Air Force Academy. The Report of the Headquarters Review Group Concerning the Religious Climate at the U.S. Air Force Academy, issued today, "confirms many of ADL's concerns and those raised by cadets, staff chaplains, civilian observers and military personnel that a persistent pattern of religious intolerance exists at the academy, and that change is necessary."
ADL has been in the forefront in urging an investigation into the concerns of religious intolerance at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. The League's concerns have led to meetings with Lt. Gen. John W. Rosa Jr. at the Academy and top Air Force officials in Washington, including Acting Secretary Michael L. Dominguez and the Deputy Chief of Staff, Lt. Gen. Roger A. Brady.
Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director, issued the following statement:
The task force's report is encouraging because it clearly recognizes that a "religious climate" and "perception of religious intolerance" exist at the academy, and that this climate has festered as a result of a "lack of awareness over where the line is drawn between permissible and impermissible expression of beliefs." The report confirms many of ADL's concerns and those raised by cadets, staff chaplains, civilian observers and military personnel that a persistent pattern of religious intolerance exists at the academy, and that change is necessary.
Beyond identifying the current problems at the Academy, the report offers substantive recommendations for reform, including the establishment of clear policy guidelines for commanders and supervisors regarding inappropriate religious expression, a plan to promote increased awareness of and respect for cultural and religious differences, and internal controls and corrective actions to ensure that the Air Force provides a climate of religious tolerance for all staff and cadets. We are especially pleased that it is not limited to the Academy in Colorado Springs, but is applicable to the entire Air Force.
We hope that the Air Force will implement these programs with all due haste, and that religious tolerance programming does not get short shrift as it has in the past. If implemented effectively, such programs could provide a model for the entire U.S. military, so that the separation of church and state is ensured, and evenly applied across the armed services.
Lt. Gen. John Rosa's open admission of the problems plaguing the Air Force Academy was a refreshing departure from the denials of the past, and we believe that he can continue to play an important role in helping to implement these much needed reforms for as long as he remains at the Academy before taking up his new position at the Citadel. We applaud the appointment of a vice superintendent at the Academy to move the process forward.
And more Jewspeak...
June 21, 2005
The Honorable John N. Hostettler U.S. House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515
Dear Rep. Hostettler:
We write to protest, in the strongest terms, your intemperate and objectionable remarks yesterday on the House floor accusing Democrats of "denigrating and demonizing Christians" and suggesting that those who supported language in the Department of Defense Appropriations bill holding the Air Force Academy accountable for inappropriate proselytizing were part of a "long war on Christianity in America."
The First Amendment guarantees every American the right to practice his or her religion freely without government interference. It is, however, highly inappropriate for individuals at a federal institution to engage in unwelcome proselytizing or to harass those of a different faith. These actions can be especially coercive and damaging when they come from a superior officer in the chain of command.
You may know that the Superintendent of the Air Force Academy, Lt. Gen. John W. Rosa, Jr., addressed the Anti-Defamation League's National Executive Committee in Denver on June 3. He acknowledged that a problem of religious intolerance exists and that the Academy was working toward a "culture change" through education, training and accountability. We will continue to be supportive of efforts to promote respect for religious pluralism at the Academy. At a time when Congress should be complementing and expanding these initial welcome efforts by the Air Force Academy to address incidents of religious intolerance, the House yesterday acted to minimize them.
The American ideal of respect and tolerance for all religious faiths is not a "war on Christianity." It is a fundamental American value and the reason why so many faith traditions have thrived in our country. Our military is a prime example of how Americans of many faiths can come together to serve and protect America, regardless of their differences.
We urge you to avoid such contentious and confrontational language in the future.
Sincerely,
Lonnie Nasatir Regional Director Upper Midwest Region
Mark Juster Regional Board Chair Upper Midwest Region [url]http://www.adl.org/religious_freedom/letter_hostettler.asp[/url]
2005-06-23 01:23 | User Profile
What is good for the Jews is good for everyone else and what is no good for the Jews is no good for anyone else. :twisted: <----saint Elohim.
2005-06-23 03:22 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]ADL Welcomes U.S. Air Force Recommendations In Response To Religious Intolerance At Academy......
ADL has been in the forefront in urging an investigation into the concerns of religious intolerance at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. The League's concerns have led to meetings with Lt. Gen. John W. Rosa Jr. at the Academy and top Air Force officials in Washington, including Acting Secretary Michael L. Dominguez and the Deputy Chief of Staff, Lt. Gen. Roger A. Brady....
[/QUOTE]Boundless [I]chutzpah[/I]. While the U.S military is away shedding the flower of its manhood to protect Israel's freedoms, at home its U.S. branch the ADL mounts a new massive attack on its institutions and personal freedoms.
2005-06-23 13:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]ADL Welcomes U.S. Air Force Recommendations In Response To Religious Intolerance At Academy [/QUOTE]
If the despicable ADL "welcomes" something, it can only be one of two things: anti-Christian or anti-white.
2005-06-23 19:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=wild_bill]If the despicable ADL "welcomes" something, it can only be one of two things: anti-Christian or anti-white.[/QUOTE] "There needs to be leadership at the Air Force Academy."
Chuckle Chortle Guffaw Sorry, that part caught me at a week moment.
Air Force Academy management is selected on the basis of, for one thing, how powder blue they are and how politically correct they are. Politics is all over the place in Adacame, as is the influence of Congress/politics at the Service Academies.
The behavior you are seeing at the AFA through the media's eyes is the tip of the iceberg. Who else is signing up to serve? Who else is steeped in the concept of sacrifice enough to serve in the armed forces?
Christians. Easy folks to "convert," for starters.
The others are folks trying to get ahead and educated via the uniform. They at least tend to be motivated and hard working, if not as deeply philosophical in that regard.
The whole thing is sort of funny. They want cadets to live like monks, even with women cadets being there, and then are surprised when they start acting like monks after the big deal is made over "Sex and the Air Force Academy."
Irony, thy name is Colorado Springs. :cool:
2005-06-25 10:37 | User Profile
"Irony, thy name is Colorado Springs. "
Great comments, 'eyes.
Want to check out a crack outfit? -- The Peruvian Air Force.
I wouldn't mind flying over the Andes some day.
2005-06-25 11:08 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes]The behavior you are seeing at the AFA through the media's eyes is the tip of the iceberg. Who else is signing up to serve? Who else is steeped in the concept of sacrifice enough to serve in the armed forces?
Christians. Easy folks to "convert," for starters. What was that remark about Christians being "easily led and duped" or something like that.
The others are folks trying to get ahead and educated via the uniform. They at least tend to be motivated and hard working, if not as deeply philosophical in that regard.
The whole thing is sort of funny. They want cadets to live like monks, even with women cadets being there, and then are surprised when they start acting like monks after the big deal is made over "Sex and the Air Force Academy."
Irony, thy name is Colorado Springs. :cool:[/QUOTE]Naw, just typical contradictions from a culture of oppression.
But speaking of Colorado Springs, here's an interesting tape from James Dobson of Focus on the Family, right next door.
[QUOTE]FOCUS ON THE FAMILY DAILY RADIO DIGEST June 27, 2005
Is it wrong for a military cadet to share his or her faith? Apparently, some in Congress think so.
TODAY'S BROADCAST Religious Intolerance at the Air Force Academy -- Panel
Some members of Congress believe that Christian cadets at the Air Force Academy have been too bold in sharing their faith. Today, Congressman John Hostettler talks about how he has defended the Academy against these baseless allegations from his fellow Congressmen. Also joining Dr. Dobson for this discussion are public policy analyst Tom Minnery and Brig. Gen. Patrick Caruana, an Academy graduate and former faculty member. Tune in to hear the latest in the ongoing cultural war against Christianity. [url]http://www.family.org/fmedia/broadcast/a0036960.cfm[/url]
"We train cadets to make the ultimate sacrifice. Should we not encourage them to grapple with the ultimate meaning in life, either to accept God or reject God, because they are in harm's way?" -- Tom Minnery
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Its interesting he talks about the episode but seems to want to completely avoid discussing mssr's Foxman and Co. I wonder if anyone has the stomach to listen to the tape and see if he does any better.
2005-06-26 04:13 | User Profile
The Problem will not be solved discussing this small issue. To discuss the rights and wrongs of young military recruits is inconsequential. I know some of you are looking for a White Homeland, and an elimination of Jews. It is belittling your own judgement, unless you can say right now that Jews are your sworn enemy, therefore any Jew that joins the army needs to be beaten and humiliated, Say it Now or shut up.
2005-06-26 04:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Exelsis_Deo]t is belittling your own judgement, unless you can say right now that Jews are your sworn enemy, therefore any Jew that joins the army needs to be beaten and humiliated, Say it Now or shut up.[/QUOTE]I thought jews don't join the army much anyway, especially as grunts where they can get beat up.