← Autodidact Archive · Original Dissent · obadiah
Thread ID: 18753 | Posts: 19 | Started: 2005-06-22
2005-06-22 03:35 | User Profile
ATTN WN's: most of you seem to harbor some animosity towards the you-know-who's, saying that through their control of the media they paint too pretty a picture of Black Americans, attempting to force Whites to accept Blacks. However, a visit to Blacksandjews.com will show that numerous Black people DO NOT view the Jews as buddies and helpers in "sticking it to whitey" (joke). There are complaints of Jewish anti-Black sentiment, displayed in their movies and tell-lie-vision (a Jew made BIRTH OF A NATION, for one early example). I for one do not agree with ZIONISM (Neither did Malcolm, neither does Farrakhan, etc.), and I do not see the Jewish media elite as helping Blacks in any struggle against racism whatsoever, or doing anything to dispel Whites' negative image of Blacks. So, my question is, why do so many WN's see it that way?
2005-06-22 04:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]ATTN WN's: most of you seem to harbor some animosity towards the you-know-who's, saying that through their control of the media they paint too pretty a picture of Black Americans, attempting to force Whites to accept Blacks. However, a visit to Blacksandjews.com will show that numerous Black people DO NOT view the Jews as buddies and helpers in "sticking it to whitey" (joke). There are complaints of Jewish anti-Black sentiment, displayed in their movies and tell-lie-vision (a Jew made BIRTH OF A NATION, for one early example). I for one do not agree with ZIONISM (Neither did Malcolm, neither does Farrakhan, etc.), and I do not see the Jewish media elite as helping Blacks in any struggle against racism whatsoever, or doing anything to dispel Whites' negative image of Blacks. So, my question is, why do so many WN's see it that way?[/QUOTE]I'll try to answer your question briefly The mainstream media certainly does talk about the need for diversity from time to time, if you believe what you read. Overall though, the jews aren't really pro-black, they're more anti-white, of course pro-jew, and above all, pro-money.
As to why many WN's see it that way, its a simple fact that much of the civil rights movement was organized and run by jews. The NAACP was founded by jews, not blacks. and up through the 60's was still run by jews at the top levels. When Marcus Garvey remember visited NAACP headquarters he stormed out, complaining it was a white organization.
As to blacks and jewish relations being bad, that's old hat, especially at the grassroots. Jews complain about blacks being anti-semitic, like they complain about everyone else being anti-semitic. But that doesn't stop blacks from taking jewish help, re: the NAACP, or all the other "diversity" programs strongly suported by jews, which do benefit blacks over white gentiles.
2005-06-22 04:20 | User Profile
Thanks Okie.
2005-06-22 04:33 | User Profile
Thanks for the response, Okie. However, I do not believe Jews are more anti-white gentile than anti-Black. I believe they pander to white gentiles by inflaming white gentile bigotry, to keep the heat on Blacks and off of them. This is what Malcolm X believed at one time. With this goal in the mind, they do alot of civil rights posturing.
2005-06-22 04:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]Thanks for the response, Okie. However, I do not believe Jews are more anti-white gentile than anti-Black. You're right. Fundamentally jews aren't anything but pro-jew. But their particular historical animus against white Christian civilization and its bearers is fairly well known. Whites and their civilization in this epoch and mileau, as the dominant culture, are the official opposition/enemy to jewish iconoclasm.
I believe they pander to white gentiles by inflaming white gentile bigotry, to keep the heat on Blacks and off of them. This is what Malcolm X believed at one time. With this goal in the mind, they do alot of civil rights posturing.[/QUOTE]I think a lot of people here recognize this. Especially ex-leftists like MWDallas and Kevin MacDonald himself.
A lot of what Malcolm X said about blacks really was quite good, that blacks need to quite blaming whitey for all their problems and look to themselves and curing their internal problems as the best route to their improvement, independence. and empowerment as people. That is actually some radical WN leaders actually admire people like them. David Duke admires Malcolm X, and Tom Metzger actually conducted talks with Farrakan, although understandably (knowing the typical personalities of both White Nationalist and Black Nationalist leaders) they didn't work out too well.
By and large such talk doesn't seem to resonate well among today's black leaders, although they occasionally give it lip service. Which is easier to do, do some hard soul searching, or agitate how you're going to shake down whitey for a few more bucks with discrimination lawsuits?
2005-06-22 05:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]Thanks for the response, Okie. However, I do not believe Jews are more anti-white gentile than anti-Black. You're right. Fundamentally jews aren't anything but pro-jew. But their particular historical animus against white Christian civilization and its bearers is fairly well known. Whites and their civilization in this epoch and mileau, as the dominant culture, are the official opposition/enemy to jewish iconoclasm.
I believe they pander to white gentiles by inflaming white gentile bigotry, to keep the heat on Blacks and off of them. This is what Malcolm X believed at one time. With this goal in the mind, they do alot of civil rights posturing.[/QUOTE]I think a lot of people here recognize this. Especially ex-leftists like MWDallas and Kevin MacDonald himself.
A lot of what Malcolm X said about blacks really was quite good, that blacks need to quite blaming whitey for all their problems and look to themselves and curing their internal problems as the best route to their improvement, independence. and empowerment as people. That is actually some radical WN leaders actually admire people like them. David Duke admires Malcolm X, and Tom Metzger actually conducted talks with Farrakan, although understandably (knowing the typical personalities of both White Nationalist and Black Nationalist leaders) they didn't work out too well.
By and large such talk doesn't seem to resonate well among today's black leaders, although they occasionally give it lip service. Which is easier to do, do some hard soul searching, or agitate how you're going to shake down whitey for a few more bucks with discrimination lawsuits?
2005-06-22 05:15 | User Profile
some good insight, Okie. It's also good to see that people of all political ideologies recognize Malcolm X's greatness. I doubt that David Duke does however. I've been to his website and he's rabidly bigoted. As far as Jews having it out for White civilization, isn't this what Hitler said? I'm not comparing you to Hitler, I'm just making a point that we should be careful what we believe.
2005-06-22 05:48 | User Profile
Be very careful in your conclusions.
And correct your wordage sonny.
I have noted your stupidity and ignorance. You contribute nothing.
For you are nothing. Zero, null, Kaput Sie.
Mentzer
2005-06-22 05:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]Be very careful in your conclusions.
And correct your wordage sonny.
I have noted your stupidity and ignorance. You contribute nothing.
For you are nothing. Zero, null, Kaput Sie.
Mentzer[/QUOTE]
"be careful" was not a threat-I was speaking for myself and for all uf us as human beings-WE should be careful in what WE believe. Correct your "wordage", and don't call me "sonny". :hitler:
2005-06-22 06:22 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]some good insight, Okie. It's also good to see that people of all political ideologies recognize Malcolm X's greatness. I doubt that David Duke does however. I've been to his website and he's rabidly bigoted. He was of course speaking in context, comparing him positively to Martin Luther King, the pinko protege of communist Samuel Levinson.
As far as Jews having it out for White civilization, isn't this what Hitler said? I'm not comparing you to Hitler, I'm just making a point that we should be careful what we believe.[/QUOTE]People also of course have compared Farrakan's statements to Hitler's at times. Guess you think we need to run everything we say by the ADL, like you seem blacks should do even more of.
2005-06-22 06:28 | User Profile
No need for the ADL-their former president even admits to "Black-baiting"-the act of playing up Black leaders' comments to create a state of fear of "anti-Semitism". I'm no ADL fan. Again, I wasn't comparing you to Hitler. I just meant that before any of us accept claims about the Jews, we need to make sure they didn't originate from some source like "Mein Kampf", unbeknownst to us who now would go around disseminating that satanic madman's ideas. That goes for me, Farrakhan, or anyone else.
2005-06-22 06:37 | User Profile
I know what you are.
I have been given confirmation. You made a simple error.
Such a little fool.
You will no longer indulge in offensive private messages.
Mentzer
2005-06-22 06:41 | User Profile
I know vat you ah. I've been geeven ze top-secret confirmation. AH'LL BE BACK!
2005-06-22 07:09 | User Profile
I know what you are.
It comes not from here.
Mentzer
2005-06-22 07:11 | User Profile
It comes from elsewhere. Some very mysterious place. Mentzer, some friendly advice-cut down on the :beer:
2005-06-22 07:14 | User Profile
With that out of the way, feel free to respond to my last post before I had to handle this, Okiereddust. We were having an intelligent conversation before.
2005-06-22 07:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]No need for the ADL-their former president even admits to "Black-baiting"-the act of playing up Black leaders' comments to create a state of fear of "anti-Semitism". I'm no ADL fan. Again, I wasn't comparing you to Hitler. I just meant that before any of us accept claims about the Jews, we need to make sure they didn't originate from some source like "Mein Kampf", unbeknownst to us who now would go around disseminating that satanic madman's ideas. That goes for me, Farrakhan, or anyone else.[/QUOTE] Just quoting myself to bring us back to the original discussion.
"he knows what I am......" :afro: ???????????????:whstl:
2005-06-22 07:21 | User Profile
Be still - little animal.
Be patient.
'Everything finds its way to the static. To those that wait for it".
Mentzer
2005-06-22 07:23 | User Profile
Thanks, Katzenfresser.