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Thread ID: 18688 | Posts: 6 | Started: 2005-06-16
2005-06-16 20:40 | User Profile
In light of the growing political successes of pro-white European political parties such as the BNP, the National Front and the NPD, it is important that Americans organize politically as well.
This has been discussed extensively on Stormfront with no consensus and no action.
There are several possibilities.
Organize within the Republican party and try to take it. Pat Buchanan is trying to do this with Team America, a political action committee. Tom Tancredo is also trying to do this, as are many other anti-immigration politicians. The neoconservatives in the Republican party can be expected to oppose us and fight for immigration and an Israel-First foreign policy.
Organize within an existing conservative Third Party such as the Constitution Party and try to take it. Third parties are always long-shots, but the Constitution Party won some state-level elections in 2004 and is one of the strongest third parties in the U.S.
Join an existing pro-white party such as the Nationalist Party USA. This allows us complete freedom and no compromise but also political isolation. Maybe the best thing that can be said about this option is that it worked in England.
If we're not trying to take the entire U.S., we could concentrate our efforts in one or more states and work for secession. The important thing is that there be some coordination of our efforts.
2005-06-16 22:08 | User Profile
I most favor taking over the GOP for one reason: our elections are winner take all, while most of Europe's are proportional parliamentary. That's why the continentals can get a few pro-white seats. Third parties are just laughed at by the press and everyone else, probably with good reason. And who the hell even knows what these guys stand for? I'm personally not that impressed by the "Constitution Party," however much I appreciate their stands. If you're not going to mention the W word, you're back to the Republicans. So go with them.
The obvious failure of neoconnism on the Iraq war, combined with surging anger at immigration, means the iron is hot for striking.
2005-06-17 04:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Hugh Lincoln]I most favor taking over the GOP for one reason: our elections are winner take all, while most of Europe's are proportional parliamentary. That's why the continentals can get a few pro-white seats. Third parties are just laughed at by the press and everyone else, probably with good reason. And who the hell even knows what these guys stand for? I'm personally not that impressed by the "Constitution Party," however much I appreciate their stands. If you're not going to mention the W word, you're back to the Republicans. So go with them.
The obvious failure of neoconnism on the Iraq war, combined with surging anger at immigration, means the iron is hot for striking.[/QUOTE]There are other good reasons to of course. Also unlike Europe, "parties" here are not mass private organizations, with dues paying members. They actually are nothing but very loosely structured organizations, "held together" in some fashion by money from the top. Basically in other words they are fund raising labels. Other than that, anyone in the world can run as a Democrat Republican. The only thing that the national organizations can do is try to raise a lot of money to defeat people they don't like in the primaries.
That's why all successful candidates throughout history seem to have run as Republicans or Democrats, down to Duke and Buchanan recently, even Jim Giles if I'm not mistaken (correct me if I'm wrong), and done much better that way than as 3rd party or independent. I guess in America people assume if you can't live within the very loose structure of "Democrat" or "Republican" you must be some kind of nut case.
That's why I've always favored supporting Buchanan, and right now he sure enough is back in the GOP, along with Tancredo. And for this cause have always been pretty obstinate against people that say somehow types like Buchanan "aren't pure enough". To the point where I tend to avoid forums like SF or Phora where a lot of these types hang out or move to. That's just my preference. I admire people who can put up with those knuckleheads who say Buchanan is a traitor and we shouldn't get sucked in to his or similar peoples schemes, but I guess I don't share their patience at times.
2005-06-22 07:45 | User Profile
Fenris,
You are very Right that something needs to be done.
2005-07-06 22:16 | User Profile
You make me cry. Wake up and realize that no party can ever make change You won't get covered by the MEDIA. I voted for Pat in 2000 and Peroutka in 2004. But there is no REMEDY there. Just as all Revolutions are, born in Blood, not ballots.
2005-07-07 01:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Exelsis_Deo]You make me cry. Wake up and realize that no party can ever make change You won't get covered by the MEDIA. I voted for Pat in 2000 and Peroutka in 2004. But there is no REMEDY there. Just as all Revolutions are, born in Blood, not ballots.[/QUOTE]
My God -- I'm actually agreeing with Ex.