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Thread ID: 18681 | Posts: 13 | Started: 2005-06-16
2005-06-16 00:41 | User Profile
Wikipedia says Original Dissent is a "White Supremacist/Christian Nationalist fusion site".
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-supremacist#External_links"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-supremacist#External_links[/url]
2005-06-16 01:00 | User Profile
See also
* White Nationalism
* White Separatism
* Master race
* Racism
* Eugenics
* Racial segregation
* Apartheid
* Dixiecrat
* Zionist Occupation Government
* American History X
* Compare: Black supremacy, Black power, East Asian supremacy, Jewish supremacism
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External links
White supremacist websites:
* Stormfront home page ([url]http://www.stormfront.org[/url])
* National Vanguard home (National Vanguard, the Acting National Chairman of which is ex-Media Director of the old Natonal Alliance, Kevin Alfred Strom, is widely perceived as representing the new, reorganized successor to the old National Alliance, in the wake of the resignation of scandal-plagued N.A. National Chairman Erich Gliebe in early 2005.) ([url]http://www.nationalvanguard.org/[/url])
* National Alliance home page (This is the so-called "rump" National Alliance, presently led by Erich Gliebe's close personal associate and alleged co-conspirator, Shaun Walker.) ([url]http://www.natall.com/[/url])
* Vanguard News Network home page ([url]http://www.govnn.com[/url])
* Pan-Aryan National Front home page ([url]http://www.panf.info/upload/index.php?styleid=1[/url])
* Original Dissent Forum (White Supremacist/Christian Nationalist fusion site) ([url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/index.php[/url])
* Skadi home page ([url]http://www.skadi.net[/url])
* Stirpes home page ([url]http://forum.stirpes.net[/url])
* The Nordish Portal home page ([url]http://www.nordish.net[/url])
o Discussion on their site, in which participants reject the classification of "supremacist" ([url]http://www.nordish.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8114[/url])
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacy"
Just for the record before that article is edited.
2005-06-16 02:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Cosmotheist]Wikipedia says Original Dissent is a "White Supremacist/Christian Nationalist fusion site".
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-supremacist#External_links"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-supremacist#External_links[/url][/QUOTE]Good. The more the merrier. Let them call Free Republic white supremacists next.
2005-06-16 02:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Just for the record before that article is edited.[/QUOTE]
Well a lot of the names certainly look familiar, and some of them definitely belong to people and groups we would sympathize with. such as David Irving, Marc Lemire and the Heritage Front, and the Council of Conservative Citizens
Many racist organisations seem to have shown a tendency to splinter easily, and modern-day racist movements existing on the internet show a great deal of strife within "The Movement". Different groups have feuds and rivalries, different figures have personal feuds with different figures, etc. [B]It could be observed that too many people within the movement want to be leaders as opposed to followers.[/B]:lol:) [B]Less extreme white supremacists or white supremacist groups, along with followers of and groups associated with **white nationalism and [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paleo-conservatism&action=edit]Paleo-Conservatism[/URL] **are considered to be cowards and traitors by a lot of white supremacists, the latter two groups reciprocate with a conviction that white supremacists and neo-Nazis especially make them all look bad.
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Overall it appears that the categorizations were borrowed from the SPLC. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if some enterprising SPLC staffer wrote the thing up. Also note what Wikipedia says about paleo-conservatism
[QUOTE]Wikipedia does not yet have a page called Paleo-conservatism. [/QUOTE]Someone could write something up something on paleo-conservatism, and maybe get us on there. Overall their categorization of us [QUOTE]Less extreme white supremacists or white supremacist groups, along with followers of and groups associated with white nationalism and [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paleo-conservatism&action=edit]Paleo-Conservatism[/URL][/QUOTE] Is pretty vague, including some people like us and excluding others (like Vdare). They might be amenable to change.
2005-06-16 03:16 | User Profile
Compare:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_supremacism[/url]
[QUOTE]Jewish supremacism From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
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Jewish supremacism is the variety of Jewish ethnocentrism that believes the jewish race is superior and should rule over other races. It can be distinguished from zionism, which calls for the advancement of the jewish state (Israel) and the protection of jews in other countries.[/QUOTE]
2005-06-16 07:09 | User Profile
As far as I know, anybody can submit definitions for anything on wikipedia. Apparently, somebody has probably too much time on their hands.
I don't care enough to quibble with wikipedia over their label of this site, but I would hardly describe this board as white supremacist. I'm sure an organization like the SPLC doesn't care to make such distinctions as it wouldn't serve their agenda, but our overall tone is really much better classified as paleo/traditional conservative, white nationalist or even white separatist, than supremacist.
I mean really, some of my best friends are black jewish people. :afro: :caiphas:
2005-06-21 04:07 | User Profile
Any site that uses the word White in a positive content and does not grovel for it, gets label a White supremacist one.
2005-08-30 13:27 | User Profile
Okiereddust,
Here it is.
Paleoconservatism [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservative[/url]
2005-08-31 00:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=G.Larson]Any site that uses the word White in a positive content and does not grovel for it, gets label a White supremacist one.[/QUOTE]
This is true.
2005-08-31 01:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Any site that uses the word White in a positive content and does not grovel for it, gets label a White supremacist one.[QUOTE=Bardamu]This is true.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] True that one does not have to be a proto-Nazi to use white in a positive context. But the mainstreams confusion on this isn't entirely a false seed plated by the ADL/SPLC.
A lot of real White Supremacist sites, like Stormfront, VNN, National Vanguard, and the NA, mouth a superficially moderate tone that mimics us. But once you are there, it is quickly made abundantly clear that anyone who does not fall at the feet of Hitler isn't much different than an ADLer as far as their concerned.
If there are some attacks on our identity, it is to no small measure cause of the work of the Neo-Nazi's mimicking genuine conservative arguments for their own purposes. Call it identity theft.
2005-08-31 01:10 | User Profile
I disagree. There is legitimate conservative sentiment within the far right mindset. It is not "theft" of any kind. These people ("Stormfront, VNN, National Vanguard, and the NA") are so far out of the mainstream, and so reviled already by the judaic/liberal press, why should they bother to [I]mimick[/I] anything?
2005-08-31 03:31 | User Profile
white Supremicist? Is there anything [I]wrong[/I] with that? I'm a White Supremicist because of what I can see all around me and because of the history of this once great race.
2005-08-31 18:59 | User Profile
It was I who edited the Wikipedia article on "White Supremacy" to include Original Dissent as an external link. I noted how several other sites were listed as external links, and saw it as an opportunity to garner a higher profile for us. While its unlikely we would ordinarily desire to bill the site as "white supremacist" per se, it is arguably accurate to describe the site in that manner (in so far as the mainstream definition of "white supremacist" has evolved into meaning any pro-Western site that isn't explicitly multiculturalist in orientation).