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2005-06-15 01:18 | User Profile
[size=5]Putin's 'cannibals' gaffe[/size] By DAVID WOODING in Moscow
RUSSIAN President Vladimir Putin sparked uproar yesterday by saying Africans had a history of CANNIBALISM.
He lashed out at the continentââ¬â¢s past after being challenged about his human rightsââ¬â¢ record.
In an astonishing outburst, Mr Putin said: ââ¬ÅWe all know that African countries used to have a tradition of eating their own adversaries.
ââ¬ÅWe donââ¬â¢t have such a tradition or process or culture and I believe the comparison between Africa and Russia is not quite just.ââ¬Â
Tony Blair, who had just finished talks with Mr Putin, was left squirming with embarrassment as the former KGB boss let rip.
Minutes before the outburst, Mr Blair had hailed reaching a deal with the Russian leader on aid and debt relief for Africa.
But Mr Putinââ¬â¢s remarks about cannibalism will be greeted with astonishment in Africa and the wider world, as he will succeed the PM as G8 president next year.
Commission for Racial Equality chief Trevor Phillips said last night: ââ¬ÅWhat a preposterous thing to say. He is at best insensitive and at worst a downright racist.ââ¬Â
Mr Putin had invited Mr Blair to his country residence for talks about the Prime Ministerââ¬â¢s drive to wipe out third world poverty before next monthââ¬â¢s G8 summit at Gleneagles.
The pair struck a deal after Mr Blair agreed to Mr Putinââ¬â¢s demands that aid was linked to Africaââ¬â¢s move towards democracy.
Earlier Mr Blair made a grovelling public apology for being the only senior world leader to miss a gathering to mark the 60th anniversary of the end of World War Two in Moscow last month. He sent Deputy PM John Prescott instead.
Without prompting, Mr Blair said sorry yesterday and paid tribute to the ââ¬Åcourage, dedication and heroismââ¬Â of the Russian people.
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2005-06-15 01:52 | User Profile
Cannibalism in the Congo, 2003:
[url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4480[/url]
[url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6876[/url]
2005-06-15 01:53 | User Profile
Rassiss, oy!
Negroes are dumb.
2005-06-15 05:01 | User Profile
I like Vlad.
2005-06-15 05:17 | User Profile
Those cannibals who ate the boy in the Congo were despicable, murdererous bastards. However, to generalize from the particular, as Putin did, is ignorant and is insulting to all the Africans who are not cannibals. It's the same as saying "White men from Milwaukee, Wisconsin have a history of cannibalism, and thus every White man from Milwaukee, Wisconsin is beneath me." Get real. Putin should not be praised for his stupidity.
2005-06-15 05:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]Those cannibals who ate the boy in the Congo were despicable, murdererous bastards. However, to generalize from the particular, as Putin did, is ignorant and is insulting to all the Africans who are not cannibals. It's the same as saying "White men from Milwaukee, Wisconsin have a history of cannibalism, and thus every White man from Milwaukee, Wisconsin is beneath me." Get real. Putin should not be praised for his stupidity.[/QUOTE] Putin didn't say that every single African is or was a cannibal. He said that "African countries used to have a tradition of eating their adversaries". The extrapolation from Putin's comment to a statement that encompasses all Africans is something that's taking place in the minds of his critics.
As a counterpoint, imagine someone saying "White Europeans slaughtered each other during the 20th century" in reference to WW1 & WW2. The fact that it doesn't apply to every single European and not to the entire 20th century doesn't disqualify it as a reasonable statement. To discuss history or cultures it is necessary to make generalisations or it is impossible to say anything meaningful. Sometimes this is hard on those to whom the generalisation does not apply.
2005-06-15 06:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper] To discuss history or cultures it is necessary to make generalisations or it is impossible to say anything meaningful. Sometimes this is hard on those to whom the generalisation does not apply.[/QUOTE] This is why some White Americans get mad when they hear about "THE White Man" in reference to the crimes that SOME Whites committed against Blacks and Indians in the past. We all should be careful when making generalizations, especially when discussing racial and ethnic issues. I would not be mad at Putin if he said WHICH African countries USED TO have the tradition of cannibalism, how long ago this was, what tribes were cannibal and did all tribe members support the practice, and how much of a resistance to it was there among other Africans. Answering these questions would show cannibalism to be an abberant behavior among Africans just as it is worldwide. Putin was not interested in that type of information however. He is clearly a racist who was flippantly taking pot-shots at Africa.
2005-06-15 06:36 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]Those cannibals who ate the boy in the Congo were despicable, murdererous bastards. However, to generalize from the particular, as Putin did, is ignorant and is insulting to all the Africans who are not cannibals.[/QUOTE]Bite me :lol:
2005-06-15 07:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]Putin was not interested in that type of information however. He is clearly a racist who was flippantly taking pot-shots at Africa.[/QUOTE]
The horror...the horror...
2005-06-15 07:17 | User Profile
Pat Buchanan himself once said that the course of White European mankind is on the lap of Putin now, not America. Sending money to these gorillas gets into the wrong hands when it is sent by evil institutions such as the United States Government. The infrastructure of collusion is ridden with sins beyond what we should penalise our minds with hearing. In some African lands, such as Sudan ( which US does not care about, because the problem is based upon truth not money ) the natives live by the Catholic or Christian faith. Scumbag murdering clans of thugs kill them, rape them, steal any food they get, etc. Many Africans, however , join Catholic and other Christian churches for Protection reasons only. They might be able to join faith, but right now they just need protection. The reach of the Church did much to allay human suffering. Still, my Pope Benedict XVI is now moving in a direction which recognizes that these monkeys are only in for the perks, not the Faith. He is a wise man who recognizes that these humanoids just want a handout and aren't even capable of True Faith. ( in my opinion ). The Rwanda massacres, etc and such as shown above.. facts are what they are, and the BOTTOM LINE is that there is now SERIOUS DOUBT ( we always knew it, but we must try to make this mainstream ) whether or not these people can be called human at all. I personally believe that they are not worthy of help. They have forever lived in a totally arable, wet, fruit yielding land and they do nothing but cause strife and cannibalism and sin. I believe it is God's Will to just kill those who are conciliatory in making this occur. Again, the United States shows its Evil by failing to wage war where violence is justified, and chooses to wage it where the Jews and Mason Satanists want it to. to their own Evil ends.
2005-06-15 08:43 | User Profile
Still, my Pope Benedict XVI is now moving in a direction which recognizes that these monkeys are only in for the perks, not the Faith. He is a wise man who recognizes that these humanoids just want a handout and aren't even capable of True Faith. ( in my opinion )./QUOTE]
You do realize what you said is sinful. You need to repent. And You need to stop believing a Nazi (Ratzinger) is a representative of God.
2005-06-15 13:26 | User Profile
Are you for real? As if Putin is going to write a 50,000-word research paper on the history of cannibalism just so people like you don't get "mad" at him. :tongue: Because, God forbid you get "mad" at him.
[QUOTE=obadiah]I would not be mad at Putin if he said WHICH African countries USED TO have the tradition of cannibalism, how long ago this was, what tribes were cannibal and did all tribe members support the practice, and how much of a resistance to it was there among other Africans. Answering these questions would show cannibalism to be an abberant behavior among Africans just as it is worldwide. Putin was not interested in that type of information however.[/QUOTE]I welcome Putin's comment because it introduces some much-needed levity (not to mention truth) into the subject of Africa. White liberals typically take Africa and Africans way too seriously.
It's good to see a white patriot standing up for his nation. Go Vlad! :thumbsup:
2005-06-15 16:21 | User Profile
Humans used to eat humans bodies (and some places still do) all the time and most times it was in order to gain the knowledge and courage of that person and it was an honor to do so.
You guys are talking now like Bush who wants to take the American style of "freedom" to the whole world, some of those countries were around centuries before we became a nation.
That's one reason that America is going all to hell, you must learn to accept others as they are and only dislike them for what what they do...same way that I am against the Jews (Zionists).
How do you expect to have peace with others if you don't know them?
2005-06-15 16:24 | User Profile
Being afraid to step on someone else's toe while letting them walk all over you is hardly a recipe for success of your people and race.
Intolerance is a virtue.
Us vs. them.
Nothing for theirs, everything for ours.
2005-06-15 22:48 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stuka]Are you for real? As if Putin is going to write a 50,000-word research paper on the history of cannibalism just so people like you don't get "mad" at him. :tongue: Because, God forbid you get "mad" at him.
I welcome Putin's comment because it introduces some much-needed levity (not to mention truth) into the subject of Africa. White liberals typically take Africa and Africans way too seriously.
It's good to see a white patriot standing up for his nation. Go Vlad! :thumbsup:[/QUOTE] No, I demand no such research paper from Putin. "People like me" understand that racists are ignorant and wish to stay that way.
2005-06-15 23:54 | User Profile
obadiah,
The correct term is "racialist", not the Leon Trotsky coined term "racist". It is possible for a person to be a racialist without hating other races.
2005-06-16 03:17 | User Profile
O.K., "racialist" it is. Since the term does not imply hatred for others, what is its definition if you'd let me know please?
2005-06-16 04:38 | User Profile
To me it means someone who looks after the interest of his own race instead of sacrificing it for some nebulous purpose, i.e., "affirmative action" and "open borders". I'll put it even stronger. It is in the interest of Western Civilization that the Whites who are descendents of those who produce this wonderful civilization to keep it intact and that means keeping nations overwhelmingly White.
2005-06-16 05:59 | User Profile
How would the white racialists act to "keep nations overwhelmingly white". I know closing the borders is going to be on your list, but what of the Blacks, Asians and non-white Latinos (legal immigrants, born citizens, etc.) who are already in the USA?
2005-06-16 13:58 | User Profile
"Racist" is an irrelevant word. It means nothing.
[QUOTE=obadiah]No, I demand no such research paper from Putin. "People like me" understand that racists are ignorant and wish to stay that way.[/QUOTE] Next...
2005-06-16 15:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE]...but what of the Blacks, Asians and non-white Latinos (legal immigrants, born citizens, etc.) who are already in the USA?[/QUOTE] If they or their descendants were here before 1965, they can stay. Otherwise they are trespassing, and they must go.
2005-06-18 06:03 | User Profile
Why 1965? this might have some significance I am not aware of, I just want to know. And what about white new arrivals? are they too, "trespassing"?
:eek: Oh, dear me! it's a colored!!!:afro: