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Thread ID: 18663 | Posts: 10 | Started: 2005-06-14
2005-06-14 14:27 | User Profile
There are lots of interpretations regarding end-time events. Im trying to find the scripture that points to the antichrist setting up in the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. This is all i can find so far, any others ?
Im reading 2 Thessalonians, chapter 2
3: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4: Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2005-06-14 14:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JoseyWales]There are lots of interpretations regarding end-time events. Im trying to find the scripture that points to the antichrist setting up in the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. This is all i can find so far, any others ?
Im reading 2 Thessalonians, chapter 2
3: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4: Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.[/QUOTE]
I don't believe that the "antichrist" is one person or that the rebuilding of the temple is prerequisite for the 2nd Coming-that's what dispensationalists believe.
The "man of sin" is all unrepentant sinners.
"He as God sitteth in the temple of God" refers simply to Satan, who would eventually corrupt and apostasize the churches in Christendom, deceiving the people by "shewing himself that he is God".
[COLOR=Navy][B]1 Thessalonians 5:2[/B] 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.[/COLOR]
When the Lord comes back, it will be like a "thief in the night"; no warning, no 3rd temple, no antichrist. Only the Last Day.
2005-06-14 18:27 | User Profile
Thanks, i must admit that until now i had not really been aware of the meaning of "Dispensationalism", but i do now and most likely much more reading will follow. Now i can see where the likes of Jerry Falwell, John Hagee, Hal Lindsey and a large block of southern babtist preachers and others get their support for Israel (the nation).
Just with my brief steps into reading about the arguments for/against, I can not see where the argument holds water that the Jews have a covenant with God seperate from the one Christ made.
An example i can point out is the parable of the vineyard in Matthew ch21 v33-39
2005-06-29 18:41 | User Profile
.....AntiChrist already sits in the Temple showing "himself" to be God; the Temple is the body of believers, antiChrist is the "jew" and Christianity has been badly "judaized" by satan's children, the "jews"...
2005-06-29 19:50 | User Profile
Here is the major problem I have with Dispensationalism and the Jews returning to build the temple. Who are the Jews? In the Bible a person was proved to be Hebrew by geneologies which were kept in the temple until it was destroyed in 70 AD. Today, no Jew or anyone who believes himself of Hebrew descent can prove it. Also even if someone was to build the temple, they need people of the tribe of Levi to run it, and even though some people have the names of Levi and Cohen, it is not enough to prove ancestry. There are quite a few blacks running around with my maiden surname, but it doesn't mean that my forebears slept with their slaves and they now share my ancestry.
2005-06-29 19:55 | User Profile
skemper...
.....The ''jews'' did not descend from the Hebrews; in fact, the term ''jew'' is invalid to our Scripture, having not been added until the latter 1770s... they are usurpers, having stolen the identity of true Israel, which is the caucasian race...
2005-06-29 21:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Patrick]...the identity of true Israel, which is the caucasian race...[/QUOTE]
Not quite, Patrick.
But just for the sake of argument, assuming this were indeed true, what happens if one is 1/2 caucasian? 1/4? 1/8? In other words, how little caucasianism must one genetically possess to squeeze through those pearly gates?
2005-06-30 05:40 | User Profile
Here's what happened when the Jews tried to build up the temple under Constantine's 4th succcessor, Julian the Apostate: [url]http://www.kensmen.com/catholic/juliantemple.html[/url]
2005-06-30 11:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Malachias111]Here's what happened when the Jews tried to build up the temple under Constantine's 4th succcessor, Julian the Apostate: [url]http://www.kensmen.com/catholic/juliantemple.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Interesting. I did not know this. This proves my case even more. Thanks for the link! :thumbsup:
2005-06-30 12:32 | User Profile
"But just for the sake of argument, assuming this were indeed true, what happens if one is 1/2 caucasian? 1/4? 1/8? In other words, how little caucasianism must one genetically possess to squeeze through those pearly gates?"
Hi, Tex...
.....Scripture declares that a mamzare, (mongrel), "shall not enter the congregation of YHVH, even unto the tenth generation shall he not enter"; we are also told that any plant not planted by YHVH shal be rooted up... any intermarriage at all is fornication and adulteration of the blood; the Commandment was "thou shalt not adulterate", as opposed to "thou shalt not commit adultery", as the whoring "church" teaches...
.....It's hard to argue with prophecy, and prophecy declares certain "marks" were to be laid upon true Israel, by which we would know who they were in the latter days; these marks are found only on the caucasian west... here is the evidence:
[url]http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/PROOF-1.htm[/url]