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Thread ID: 18651 | Posts: 43 | Started: 2005-06-13
2005-06-13 22:51 | User Profile
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2005-06-13 23:29 | User Profile
As an enternainer wako Jackson is number one, many times did I dance to his beat in my disco days.......but, as a private individual I don't like him at all but in the other hand I really don't blame him because he is a product of his own success and environment consisting of those around him.
A very good example of my last two lines from above is Bush.
2005-06-13 23:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE]Wacko Jacko is backo![/QUOTE] :wallbash:
So basicly what we just witnessed was a jury fully acquiting the moonwalking, crotch grabbing Jackson and consequently giving him permission to continue letting young boys sleep in his bed.
It is absolutely unfathomable how the ultra-rich can commit bizarre acts with impunity.
2005-06-14 00:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Nobody Watching TV? Wacko Jacko is Backo![/QUOTE]
Yes, but I am just so breathless with excitement and joy that I find it hard to type a post!
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2005-06-14 00:12 | User Profile
Have yourselves a good laugh and watch the jurors field questions from the press. :wink:
They all mentioned how the alleged molestation victim's mother was staring at them during the trial and gestured to them, winked and snapped her fingers. Instead of focusing on the allegations against Jacko they were preoccupied with forming opinions based on the mother's mannerisms.
I'll never understand how the injustice system works the way it does.
2005-06-14 00:19 | User Profile
QUOTE=Angelus Silesius
I'll never understand how the injustice system works the way it does.[/QUOTE]
I'm still trying to figure out if it was the American or German fans who loved MK the most.
2005-06-14 00:22 | User Profile
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2005-06-14 00:59 | User Profile
QUOTE=Angelus SilesiusHave yourselves a good laugh and watch the jurors field questions from the press. :wink:
They all mentioned how the alleged molestation victim's mother was staring at them during the trial and gestured to them, winked and snapped her fingers. Instead of focusing on the allegations against Jacko they were preoccupied with forming opinions based on the mother's mannerisms.
I'll never understand how the injustice system works the way it does.[/QUOTE] I like what that one juror said "what kind of mother would let her kids go over to Jackson's house to sleep in his bed in the first place"
It's sort of the understandable irritation we hear. Sort of like when a girl takes an ex-con as a boyfriend and he sure enough beats her up and takes her money.
But sometimes jurors don't really think through the implications of what they're saying. But its always a very successful tactic when it works - put the accuser on trial. And I think it works because we ourselves can relate to peoples dislike of arrogant prosecutors and backstabbing snitches.
2005-06-14 01:29 | User Profile
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2005-06-14 01:35 | User Profile
I'm pleased to say I didn't watch a bit of it, and heard as little about it as possible. It brings to mind that this is the generation and breed that will pay any price, make any sacrifice, climb any mountain, to win the Global War on Terror, and spread enlightenment and the joy and beauty of "democracy" to the whole wide world, our shining moral Christian city on a hill.... Cultivons nos jardins....
2005-06-14 01:37 | User Profile
It was obvious he'd be acquitted after the sleazy character of the accusers came up.
2005-06-14 01:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]I like what that one juror said "what kind of mother would let her kids go over to Jackson's house to sleep in his bed in the first place"
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I agree with this. They should have settled out of court for a million bucks and called it a day.
2005-06-14 02:14 | User Profile
QUOTE=Angelus SilesiusHave yourselves a good laugh and watch the jurors field questions from the press. :wink:[/QUOTE] Greetings to you and welcome. I did listen to that press conference and the press was more interested on their performance with the jurors than anything else. What a sick joke asides from the idiotic Jackson fans. The fans remind me of diehard Bush or Clinton supporters.
2005-06-14 04:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Greetings to you and welcome. I did listen to that press conference and the press was more interested on their performance with the jurors than anything else. What a sick joke asides from the idiotic Jackson fans. The fans remind me of diehard Bush or Clinton supporters.[/QUOTE] Jackson Fans: diehard followers of an anorexic psychotic who is not comfortable within his own skin. Brings to mind Dead Heads, who followed the Grateful Dead long after they were anything worth listening to.
Time to clean up the gene pool, or at least toss in a bit of Chlorine.
There may be some hope for the others.
2005-06-14 12:11 | User Profile
Did you hear that Jerry? You're being dissed. Jerry Garcia, RIP.
I don't mind hippies so much. They are actually a very white group who like children and that can't be all bad.
2005-06-14 12:33 | User Profile
Jerry Garcia was absolutely amazing. He was the Grateful Dead. Period.
Nowadays, that same band is just called The Dead. And dead is right.
As for Jacko and his fans, they deserve each other-- bunch of losers. Jacko is certainly most wacko but maybe not really in a criminal way (who knows?) but he ain't got nothing left anyway. The guy is finished, his career over. He's really lucky that the prosecution's star witness was a complete nutjob psycho or he might be servicing Tito (not his brother) in an uncompromising manner inside the clink right now.
2005-06-14 13:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]I like what that one juror said "what kind of mother would let her kids go over to Jackson's house to sleep in his bed in the first place" [/QUOTE] I'm more upset at the lack of common sense and judgement on the part of the parents. We all knew by then he wasn't quite right in the head. We all knew that he had been previously accused of child molestation. And, like you said, who'd let their kid wander around Neverland Ranch unsupervised with a freak of nature, especially after the fact of a previous accusation? One person you definitely want to keep your kids away from is the adult who acts too much like a kid himself.
The things people will try do for a lawsuit, though. Even pawn their own kids.
All this case does for me is serve as a reminder that one of the major things that's going to make society turn for the better is an improvement in parenting skills.
2005-06-14 13:31 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead] Nowadays, that same band is just called The Dead. And dead is right.
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I don't think anybody pretends that the Dead is still a group since the demise of Garcia.
2005-06-14 13:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]Greetings to you and welcome. I did listen to that press conference and the press was more interested on their performance with the jurors than anything else. What a sick joke asides from the idiotic Jackson fans. The fans remind me of diehard Bush or Clinton supporters.[/QUOTE]
I supported Bush because the alterative was a lot worse. I met a lot of those ââ¬Ëdiehardââ¬â¢ Bush fans during the past election, and they were nothing like the ââ¬Ëwacko fansââ¬â¢.
2005-06-14 14:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]I don't think anybody pretends that the Dead is still a group since the demise of Garcia.[/QUOTE]
Some of my die-hard Deadhead friends still go to all The Dead shows when they come around. I wouldn't.
2005-06-15 00:07 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Some of my die-hard Deadhead friends still go to all The Dead shows when they come around. I wouldn't.[/QUOTE]
They are not called the Dead anymore. Phil Lesh and Friends is what the last tour was called.
2005-06-15 00:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]They are not called the Dead anymore. Phil Lesh and Friends is what the last tour was called.[/QUOTE] Then the Dead are at long last dead. About time. Now, if someone could just convince the Rolling Stones to stop touring.
2005-06-15 00:30 | User Profile
what music do you like Angeleyes?
2005-06-15 00:39 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]what music do you like Angeleyes?[/QUOTE] The Dead have a few good tunes, but they are long past their sell by date. When I was young, the Stones and The Who were big favorites of mine. I have always liked classical music: Mozart, Bethoven, Brahams, etc. ZZ Top is great driving music, and it is pure Texas. Some days, I listen to the Texas Mix country all day. (The AM station is out of Victoria, no talk, just music.)
Andres Segovia classical guitar for quiet evenings in the back yard, cigar, Scotch. A bit of everything, really. Movie soundtracks have been big of late.
And I always love to hear my daughter sing in the church choir.
2005-06-15 00:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes]The Dead have a few good tunes, but they are long past their sell by date. When I was young, the Stones and The Who were big favorites of mine. I have always liked classical music: Mozart, Bethoven, Brahams, etc. ZZ Top is great driving music, and it is pure Texas. Some days, I listen to the Texas Mix country all day. (The AM station is out of Victoria, no talk, just music.)
Andres Segovia classical guitar for quiet evenings in the back yard, cigar, Scotch. A bit of everything, really. Movie soundtracks have been big of late.
And I always love to hear my daughter sing in the church choir.[/QUOTE]
If I bought a Dead album it would certainly be from long ago naturally, aren't they all from long ago at this point? I wouldn't mind listening to Workingman's Dead right now, if I had a stereo. So you relax with a highball and cigar in the backyard huh, what are you saying, you're a man? :confused:
2005-06-15 00:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]If I bought a Dead album it would certainly be from long ago naturally, aren't they all from long ago at this point? I wouldn't mind listening to Workingman's Dead right now, if I had a stereo. So you relax with a highball and cigar in the backyard huh, what are you saying, you're a man? :confused:[/QUOTE] Yes.
As was the character my nick is named for. He was "The Bad" in the old spaghetti Western "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly." Played by Lee Van Cleef. I really like that movie, and listen to the soundtrack often. :cowboy:
2005-06-15 01:02 | User Profile
Ha. Here I had you for a woman. I remember Angeleyes, good soundtrack too. In fact, I think I will watch that movie this weekend, either that or the Wild Bunch.
2005-06-15 01:15 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Brian Hassett]I'm still trying to figure out if it was the American or German fans who loved MK the most.[/QUOTE]
State the purpose of your comment.The meaning and the indication.
Jackson is a miscreant.
There are too many pampered and stupid women in North America. And they are required by defense lawyers on juries.
There is a Jackson cult, of small number, but of great interest to a wasteful media.
Most Americans consider Jackson guilty. Most Africans do not - because he is of them and confirms to their practice.
Do not be fooled. Do not be misled.
Mentzer
2005-06-15 04:14 | User Profile
Tonight show monologue: " Jackson was found innocent on all charges. Just another rich white guy getting off"!
2005-06-15 04:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=BlueBonnet]Tonight show monologue: " Jackson was found innocent on all charges. Just another rich white guy getting off"![/QUOTE]
Yep.. nice sardonic comment, BB. As in beyond cynical. Once it crosses the level of cynicality, it becomes sardonic, IMHO. ( in my humble opinion ).
I have over the last few weeks been watching Court TV, because I don't feel like paying the 50 $ a month for full cable which I don't watch anyway, but I get Court Tv by accident. And BET and Spanish, Portuguese channels. Unintentional largesse of the cable co ? I don't know. But I only feel like paying 10 $ a month not 50 $. I would rather choose what I view. Anyway, before the verdict, all of the Court tv commentators who many are or were in the legal system as lawyers and judges, thought Mr. Peter Pan was Guilty. Then today, after the verdict, I saw jurors being interviewed. It was sad. A white man, about 50, was a juror who was saying to extent, those kiddie mags were there, and had said kid's fingerprints, and we know MJ slept with him for months, and we know the alcohol and the vaseline and the other boy was molested but but but but maybe the boy dug thru MJ's closets on his own to get this stuff ? This is legal propagandese . As in legal speak which this jury was definitely influenced by. With 9 counts, I personally have NO DOUBT that the defense FOUND A WAY to BRIBE through UNTRACEABLE AVENUES at least 4 of the jurors. By doing so, they sealed the case.
" Money doesn't talk, it Swears " - Bob Dylan ( in what song I can't recall right now ) and " Money talks, B-S walks " .. anonymous.
2005-06-15 04:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Mentzer]
There is a Jackson cult, of small number, but of great interest to a wasteful media.
Most Americans consider Jackson guilty. Most Africans do not - because he is of them and confirms to their practice.
Mentzer[/QUOTE] How is molesting children an African practice (I ususually think of priests-no offense to any Catholics here; MOST of the ped. priests were White men)?
Where do we get this information that "most Africans" support Jacko? Do you mean USA Black people or actual citizens of the African Continent? The "We love you Michael" crowd outside the courthouse was largely White.There were zero Black jurors. As for Jackson himself-what race is he? I'm human, and he sure don't look like one of my kind! :smile: I am still on the fence as to whether or not he did it. It could have been a scheme cooked by his accusers---$$$$$$, but I'm not sure. He could indeed believe he is a child, and was on a sleepover, and nothing happened. But I don't really buy that. Whether he is aware of it or not, he is an adult, and living his sick lifestyle of fantasy,associating only with little boys, his sexual urges could have been pervertedly misdirected. If that's true, the jury made a horrible mistake. Let's just hope that-assuming he did do it-at least he will not do it again, having come this close to getting justice this time.
2005-06-15 13:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]They are not called the Dead anymore. Phil Lesh and Friends is what the last tour was called.[/QUOTE]
Bardamu, are you a Grateful Dead fan?
I love the studio album "Blues for Allah" and the classic of classics live album "Europe '72"....that's a mind blower, IMO.
Phil Lesh & Friends still tour and are a major draw for lingering Deadheads, but "The Dead" toured in 2003 and 2004 with Lesh, Weir, Kreutzmann, Hart, and others. I didn't nor did I want to go to those shows. I saw the Grateful Dead once in 1989, in NJ. Man, that was an amazingly great show.
However, I was nevert an official tye-dyed Deadhead in the classic hippie sense. I just dug their music and Jerry Garcia's guitar playing in particular.
2005-06-15 16:45 | User Profile
This thread has certainly moved in a strange direction.
[QUOTE]Brings to mind Dead Heads, who followed the Grateful Dead long after they were anything worth listening to. [/QUOTE]
I went to many Dead shows, starting in 1983. Jerry lost his voice (such as it was) in 1984, but the band was still worth seeing till about '91. The last couple of years, however, were painful.
2005-06-15 16:56 | User Profile
When I was young, the Stones and The Who were big favorites of mine. I have always liked classical music: Mozart, Bethoven, Brahams, etc. ZZ Top is great driving music, and it is pure Texas.
The Who and the Stones are classics. For driving music, the best tune ever is Lynyrd Skynyrd's version of JJ Cale's "Call Me the Breeze".
2005-06-15 17:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes]ZZ Top is great driving music, and it is pure Texas.
Roger that! Pop in Tres Hombres or Deguello put the top down and you're good to go. After Eliminator I stopped listening. Even that album wasn't great, in spite of the fact that it was the one that put them in the Nationwide Superstar category (not that they were struggling before then).
Some days, I listen to the Texas Mix country all day. (The AM station is out of Victoria, no talk, just music.)[/QUOTE]
What's that on the dial, BTW? Maybe I could pick it up at night. What passes for country stations around here aren't really worth mentioning, besides a very occasional Derailers tune.
2005-06-16 12:19 | User Profile
[QUOTE=xmetalhead]Bardamu, are you a Grateful Dead fan?
I love the studio album "Blues for Allah" and the classic of classics live album "Europe '72"....that's a mind blower, IMO.
Phil Lesh & Friends still tour and are a major draw for lingering Deadheads, but "The Dead" toured in 2003 and 2004 with Lesh, Weir, Kreutzmann, Hart, and others. I didn't nor did I want to go to those shows. I saw the Grateful Dead once in 1989, in NJ. Man, that was an amazingly great show.
However, I was nevert an official tye-dyed Deadhead in the classic hippie sense. I just dug their music and Jerry Garcia's guitar playing in particular.[/QUOTE]
"Blues for Allah". Yes, I had that album and quite a few others, "American Beauty" comes to mind. Like you I was a fan but never a proper Dead Head. I saw them live in Kansas City 1970 and almost died in a blizzard on the interstate hitch hiking back to Des Moines the same night, and it wasn't even a good concert!
2005-06-16 12:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]"Blues for Allah". Yes, I had that album and quite a few others, "American Beauty" comes to mind. Like you I was a fan but never a proper Dead Head. I saw them live in Kansas City 1970 and almost died in a blizzard on the interstate hitch hiking back to Des Moines the same night, and it wasn't even a good concert![/QUOTE]
Hitchhiking is a lost art in Amerika these days. I guess with people like Jacko out there in our glorious multicultural landscape, hitchhiking has just become another form of suicide.
Glad you made it back alive from that show. A church friend of mine (who loved the Dead) told me that his brother was killed in a car wreck coming home after a Grateful Dead show. I was pretty speechless, although the irony was thick. He plays "Franklin's Tower" with his band in tribute to his lost brother.
2005-06-16 13:32 | User Profile
Thanks, I'm glad I made it back too, and now after a slight detour back to Jacko .
[QUOTE=xmetalhead] I guess with people like Jacko out there in our glorious multicultural landscape, hitchhiking has just become another form of suicide.
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2005-06-16 19:18 | User Profile
So basicly what we just witnessed was a jury fully acquiting the moonwalking, crotch grabbing Jackson and consequently giving him permission to continue letting young boys sleep in his bed.
It is absolutely unfathomable how the ultra-rich can commit bizarre acts with impunity.[/QUOTE]
It's how the ultra-rich can abuse and exploit those with fewer resources to protect themselves. The rich have always abused the poor, and Jackson is a modern day example of it. A black guy abusing white children.
2005-06-17 02:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ron]It's how the ultra-rich can abuse and exploit those with fewer resources to protect themselves. The rich have always abused the poor, and Jackson is a modern day example of it. A black guy abusing white children.[/QUOTE] if it were the other way around, white guy abusing black children, there would be riots.
2005-06-17 04:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=BlueBonnet]if it were the other way around, white guy abusing black children, there would be riots.[/QUOTE] *White riot - I wanna riot White riot - a riot of my own White riot - I wanna riot White riot - a riot of my own
Black man gotta lot a problems But they don't mind throwing a brick White people go to school Where they teach you how to be thick
An' everybody's doing Just what they're told to An' nobody wants To go to jail!
All the power's in the hands Of people rich enough to buy it While we walk the street Too chicken to even try it
Everybody's doing Just what they're told to Nobody wants To go to jail!
Are you taking over or are you taking orders? Are you going backwards Or are you going forwards?*
:punk:
2005-06-17 04:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]How is molesting children an African practice (I ususually think of priests-no offense to any Catholics here; MOST of the ped. priests were White men)?
Where do we get this information that "most Africans" support Jacko? Do you mean USA Black people or actual citizens of the African Continent? The "We love you Michael" crowd outside the courthouse was largely White.There were zero Black jurors. As for Jackson himself-what race is he? I'm human, and he sure don't look like one of my kind! :smile: I am still on the fence as to whether or not he did it. It could have been a scheme cooked by his accusers---$$$$$$, but I'm not sure. He could indeed believe he is a child, and was on a sleepover, and nothing happened. But I don't really buy that. Whether he is aware of it or not, he is an adult, and living his sick lifestyle of fantasy,associating only with little boys, his sexual urges could have been pervertedly misdirected. If that's true, the jury made a horrible mistake. Let's just hope that-assuming he did do it-at least he will not do it again, having come this close to getting justice this time.[/QUOTE]
I note you find criminality difficult to understand.
Jackson is no little boy - and I assume you are not.
Point: You are ignorant of what Africans do to their own children.
Point: Jackson is Black. And he is determined by it: from his own people. Do not offer foolish notion.
Point: Is the political activist and convicted criminal, Jesse Jackson, a confidant of M Jackson - or is he not?
Point: Black Americans are pleased. They regard it as political and racial as in all legal case. They support that which is of them. It matters not to them the level of violence or obscenity. Innocence or guilt.
Point: Africans, currently allowed residence in Europe, also support Jackson in their stupidity and inherent ignorance.
I care not for your effete 'hope' - and I care less for your opinion.
Mentzer
2005-06-21 04:04 | User Profile
Sorry, mistype, [u]FM[/u] 98.7 Texas Radio. Head down toward Corpus and it picks up on 94.7 KBSO.
[url="http://www.texasmusicguide.com/radiostns.htm"]http://www.texasmusicguide.com/radiostns.htm[/url]
Wherever you are in Texas, here is your guide to the various Texas Radio stations. There are more FM than AM nowadays, which I guess means that commercial success has happened, or the Hispanic and talk radio sataions have bumped them off the dial in some locales.
[QUOTE=MadScienceType]Roger that! Pop in Tres Hombres or Deguello put the top down and you're good to go. After Eliminator I stopped listening. Even that album wasn't great, in spite of the fact that it was the one that put them in the Nationwide Superstar category (not that they were struggling before then).
What's that on the dial, BTW? Maybe I could pick it up at night. What passes for country stations around here aren't really worth mentioning, besides a very occasional Derailers tune.[/QUOTE]