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2005-06-07 15:27 | User Profile
The president & the porn star
Posted: June 7, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
é 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
I want you to imagine the squeals of outrage we would have heard if, back in the 1990s, President Clinton spoke to a Democratic congressional fund-raising dinner attended by a porn star and a pornographer.
But the "family values" Republicans are mute about just such an event scheduled for next week – involving not Clinton, but President Bush.
Last week, Carl Forti, communications director for the National Republican Congressional Committee, explained to WND that self-described pornographer Mark Kulkis and his date, porn star Mary Carey, will be attending the two-day event, "The 2005 President's Dinner and Salute to Freedom," next Monday and Tuesday because their money is just as good as anyone else's.
"They've paid their money," he said. "No matter what they do, the money is going to go to help elect Republicans to the House."
For $5,000, Cary and Kulkis will be in the same room as the president one day and presidential confidant Karl Rove another.
And the pair make no secret about why they want to be there – to buy influence with top political leaders, the Republican Party and credibility for themselves and their "profession."
Carey is something of a publicity-monger, having run for California governor against Arnold Schwarzenegger on a platform of making lap dances tax deductible, recruiting porn stars as "ambassadors of good will and putting webcams in every room of the governor's mansion."
"I'm especially looking forward to meeting Karl Rove," she said. "Smart men like him are so sexy. I know that he's against gay marriage, but I think I can convince him that a little girl-on-girl action now and then isn't so bad."
Last month, she was arrested with four others at a new strip club in Tacoma, Wash., for getting too close to customers and touching themselves in a sexual manner.
Kulkis, meanwhile, also serves as honorary chairman of the NRCC's Business Advisery Council, apparently advising the GOP on behalf of the porn industry.
"I'm honored to be invited to this event," he says. "Republicans bill themselves as the pro-business party. Well, you won't find a group of people more pro-business than pornographers. We contributed over $10 billion to the national economy last year."
Is there anyone Republicans won't take money from? Would they take money directly from the mob, which backs most porn? Would they take money from white slave traders? Would they take money from kiddie-porn producers? What would be their price for access and influence in the White House and Republican Congress – or have they already paid it?
When asked by WND's White House correspondent Les Kinsolving about the attendance of this pair at the Republican event, White House spokesman Scott McClellan played dumb, claiming he had not yet looked that far ahead on the president's schedule.
It's time for the Republicans to give this matter some serious thought, rather than brushing it off or laughing it off.
Do Bush and the Republicans justify accepting money from pornographers for their campaigns?
Do Bush and the Republicans understand that appearing with a porn star and a pornographer gives them and their criminal industry credibility?
Do Bush and the Republicans think they are setting a good example for the moral climate of our nation by meeting with these people?
Maybe you don't think this is an important issue. I do. I think presidents are defined by the kind of people with whom they meet.
Clinton got away with murder as president, but he probably would not knowingly have met publicly with pornographers. Instead, if I know Clinton, he would have accepted the money and arranged a quiet, private meeting with the porn star. He was politically astute enough to know his political opponents would take him to task.
But who is going to take Bush to task?
Why am I the only one who seems to care?
Where are all those "family-values" allies of Bush now?
Why isn't anyone else speaking up?
Mark my words: If Bush and the Republicans go through with this meeting, it will come back to bite them. Their hypocrisy is about to be demonstrated to the entire world.
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Related thread:
Pornographer's Dinner with George W Bush [url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18483[/url]
2005-06-07 21:58 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Faust]Last week, Carl Forti, communications director for the National Republican Congressional Committee, explained to WND that self-described pornographer Mark Kulkis and his date, porn star Mary Carey, will be attending the two-day event, "The 2005 President's Dinner and Salute to Freedom," next Monday and Tuesday because their money is just as good as anyone else's.
[B]"They've paid their money," he said. "No matter what they do, the money is going to go to help elect Republicans to the House."[/B]
Gosh he sounds just like Jim Robinson :lol:
[QUOTE]Is there anyone Republicans won't take money from? Would they take money directly from the mob, which backs most porn? Would they take money from white slave traders? Would they take money from kiddie-porn producers? What would be their price for access and influence in the White House and Republican Congress ââ¬â or have they already paid it? [/QUOTE] Well if money equates to political power (which it pretty much [I]ipso facto[/I] does) we do have the interesting statement of Karl Rove in 2000 that "he'd rather Bush not get elected than rely on the votes of white americans to stay in power.
Porn merchants - certainly yes. The Mob, white slave traders, kiddie porn merchants - maybe. But representatives of the regular american majority - never.
I'd least we the Bush presidency has [B]some[/B] standards on who it reaches out to.
But who is going to take Bush to task?
Why am I the only one who seems to care?
Where are all those "family-values" allies of Bush now?
Why isn't anyone else speaking up?
Related thread:.......
Pornographer's Dinner with George W Bush [url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18483[/url][/QUOTE]Still looking for the Freeper thread on this, if anybody has the time.
2005-06-07 22:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Still looking for the Freeper thread on this, if anybody has the time.[/QUOTE]Here are the Freeper threads I found BTW. (they seem to have cut down on their search function - you can only search titles now)
[url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1407401/posts]Porn star to dine with Bush - Mod Note: WorldNetDaily's source is a porn site[/url]
and
[url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1414793/posts?q=1&&page=51[/url]
Typical
[QUOTE]She can't be discriminated against but that doesn't stop the Bush haters on Free Republic from using the event to take their usual cheap shots at him.[/QUOTE]:disgust:
2005-06-11 03:39 | User Profile
I'm not one to make mistakes, but when I do they are real dillies!
First, I joined and supported Free (sic) Republic. Second, I voted for GWB--twice (make that second and THIRD!)
I got tossed from FR because I got tired of those that agree with Bush's selling out this country to the highest bidder. The Freakers (most of them) seem to think that W is God. They thinks the same thing of Jim Robinson.
My reason for posting this here (and my first post to boot) is that the Pornographer, Bush, and Robinson have one common thread: All will do anything for money.
In the case of Robinson and Bush, they will give the shaft to the very poeple that got them where they are. In Robinson's case he had no problem either banning or driving away those that made FR so well-known. :wallbash:
My frinds at FR that still post are doing so infrequently these days...they have seen FR dumbed down to the point that posts are a chore to read. Of course, they cannot call the morons to task for fear of being banned--than pilloried by Robinson and his clique.
Well, forgive the semi-rant...it's nive to be a site that THINKS!:thumbsup:
Formerfreeper
2005-06-11 04:20 | User Profile
Former Freeper,
That's okay. Most of us understand what a slimeball J.R. is. There is a sizable contigent of former freepers here as well who also got the boot from RimJob. Make that some of us several times. Welcome aboard.
2005-06-11 04:32 | User Profile
[img]http://www.indybay.org/uploads/duncan___jim_robinson.jpg[/img]
RimJob knows pimping--he once hosted a site for Filipina sex tours...
2005-06-11 04:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=formerfreeper]My reason for posting this here (and my first post to boot) is that the Pornographer, Bush, and Robinson have one common thread: All will do anything for money. Only difference is J.R. isn't as good looking.
In the case of Robinson and Bush, they will give the shaft to the very poeple that got them where they are. In Robinson's case he had no problem either banning or driving away those that made FR so well-known. :wallbash:
My frinds at FR that still post are doing so infrequently these days...they have seen FR dumbed down to the point that posts are a chore to read. Of course, they cannot call the morons to task for fear of being banned--than pilloried by Robinson and his clique.
Well, forgive the semi-rant...it's nive to be a site that THINKS!:thumbsup:
Formerfreeper[/QUOTE]You might check our cyber politics section, including threads like the somewhat exageratedly named [URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16714]The Shot Heard Round the World[/URL]
I almost think Freeperdom is almost a form of addiction. We should start of societ called "Freepers Anonymous". Anyway glad you kicked the habit. :biggrin:
2005-06-11 08:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Only difference is J.R. isn't as good looking.[/QUOTE]
"Mary Carey" (for all the protestations of Ms. "Carey" and her quasi-prostitutional ilk, to the effect they are just ever so proud as punch to be "working" in the pornographic "industry," one must take note of the fact she is clearly so ashamed of what she does, she is only willing to do it - no pun intended - under a fake name, probably about the only aspect of her career as a quasi-prostitute that her unfortunate family approves of) is only atractive to the extent one physically desires skanky, snaggle-toothed sluts who conceal the human qualities of their facial features underneath half an inch of pancake make-up; I'm sure you have better taste than that. I would certainly hope so!
For the record, her shape/figure is clearly above average.
2005-06-11 10:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Only difference is J.R. isn't as good looking.
You might check our cyber politics section, including threads like the somewhat exageratedly named [url="http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16714"]The Shot Heard Round the World[/url]
I almost think Freeperdom is almost a form of addiction. We should start of societ called "Freepers Anonymous". Anyway glad you kicked the habit. :biggrin:[/QUOTE] A big thanks to all for a very kind Welcome....
Freeperdom IS and addiction. Well, it was when you mostly had people there that could THINK for themselves and not be assimilated robots. As for a FA society, the "twelve steps" could start with "RimJob is not God"--or something like that.
2005-06-11 11:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Howard Campbell, Jr]RimJob knows pimping--he once hosted a site for Filipina sex tours...[/QUOTE]
I've never heard that before, and I certanly know of no evidence in support of it, but it just rings so true, it simply odesn't occur to me to doubt the veracity of such a claim. Others might doubt it, however (lurkers, mainly, I should think). Thus I respectfully suggest you post all youknow on that subject in this thread, so as to aid in the dissemination of info that is innately harmful to one of our mutual (and more revolting) enemies. Thanks.
2005-06-11 12:16 | User Profile
Kevin,
This may help answer your question about Rimjob and the filipinas. [url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?p=105023#post105023[/url] :pimp:
2005-06-15 18:35 | User Profile
[QUOTE=formerfreeper]I'm not one to make mistakes, but when I do they are real dillies!
First, I joined and supported Free (sic) Republic. Second, I voted for GWB--twice (make that second and THIRD!)
I got tossed from FR because I got tired of those that agree with Bush's selling out this country to the highest bidder. The Freakers (most of them) seem to think that W is God. They thinks the same thing of Jim Robinson.
My reason for posting this here (and my first post to boot) is that the Pornographer, Bush, and Robinson have one common thread: All will do anything for money.
In the case of Robinson and Bush, they will give the shaft to the very poeple that got them where they are. In Robinson's case he had no problem either banning or driving away those that made FR so well-known. :wallbash:
My frinds at FR that still post are doing so infrequently these days...they have seen FR dumbed down to the point that posts are a chore to read. Of course, they cannot call the morons to task for fear of being banned--than pilloried by Robinson and his clique.
Well, forgive the semi-rant...it's nive to be a site that THINKS!:thumbsup:
Formerfreeper[/QUOTE]
FF, it's nice to have you here and hope you stick around.
As for Free Republic, it's more sad than anything else to see people like that so lost in such a simplistic fantasy world. The deference to anything GOP is ridiculously simpleminded and the thought that "if we only got rid of all the evil Liberals and the nation of France" then "Ammerikuh" would be "kickin' asses" all over the world. Of course when it comes to war and the military, they'd like to direct and lead those wars and troops from the comfort of their own homes and issue directives via their own keyboards. Anyone who slightly dissents from the "kill 'em all" mantra is accused of falling victim to the "liberal media bias" which is another ridiculously simplistic rallying call for the Freakers.
Anyway, I'm not saying that our point of view here is perfect and the only solution to all the world's woes, but as you pointed out in your post above, we have perfected the art of thinking for ourselves and ranting about what we find absolutely ridiculous in the "freest" country in the world.
So with that said, please, rant away all you desire!