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Esoterist [OP]

2005-06-07 07:48 | User Profile

A Jewish one inside the British one

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The globalist open conspiracy is tripartite, mutually interpenetrating and possibly unstable, consisting of: (1) Fabian Trotskyite Internationalist Socialists (Clinton, Soros, Chomsky); (2) Rhodes Anglophile Imperialists (Samuel Huntington, George W. Bush, Zbigniew Brzezinski); (3) Rothschild-aligned Zionists (Henry Kissinger, Perle, Wolfowitz).

These three elements are co-operating presently, but have not always. The Jewish-Zionist element is, of course, the most powerful and directing one.

Messianic Rothschild Zionism is attempting to "immanentize the eschaton" (i.e. institute Heaven on Earth a la its failed predecessor, Jewish Marxism), because according to the logic of the deviated, matter-worshipping Jewish mentality this present inferior earthly existence is all there is.

A study of Shabbetian and Frankist Judaism is absolutely key to understanding world-subversion. The roots of Judaic subversion go deeper, but these Jewish heretical movements are the motor behind the modern world.

Shabbetian and Frankist Jews inaugurated modern Freemasonry as a sort of bridge between themselves and their Aryan hosts in seventeenth century Europe. The focus of their activities was especially Britain.

Shabbetian/Sabbatian and Frankist Jews insinuated themselves into European history through their creation of the Asiatic Brethren, the Hermetic Brotherhood of Light/Luxor, Rosicrucianism, Theosophy, the Golden Dawn, Crowley's OTO, etc.

Do a little googling on a certain Jewish subverter by the name of Thomas von Schoenfeld aka "Moses Dobruschka" if you don't believe me. The Jewish envelopment of the West goes deeper than most of you can imagine.

American and British Intelligence agencies and governments are absolutely infested with this filth.

Rothschild Zionism, heir to these degenerate Jewish movements, has been successful in controlling the other pro-globalist elements in its goal to destroy Traditionalist Islam and build the Third Temple so the Jews can rule the world's various races and nations theocratically from Jerusalem. Thus the Jewish people itself, in a supreme instance of schizophrenic and hubristic self-glorification, will turn out to be its own, and the world's, Messiah.

KNOW YOUR ENEMY


Esoterist

2005-06-07 09:01 | User Profile

Read this to understand how the nihilistic Sabbatian-Frankist Jews ensnared the English artist William Blake in their filthy sodomitic ideology:

[url="http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/VolumeII/BlakeFull.html"]http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/VolumeII/BlakeFull.html[/url]

Read this to understand how this sect of nihilistic, sodomitic Jews gave birth to modern Messianic Zionism:

[url="http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Commentary/Sabbataian_Agenda.htm"]http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Commentary/Sabbataian_Agenda.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.rense.com/general64/zzzio.htm"]http://www.rense.com/general64/zzzio.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.rense.com/general65/orig.htm"]http://www.rense.com/general65/orig.htm[/url]


Esoterist

2005-06-07 13:08 | User Profile

I will simplify it: A heretical sect of Jews self-identified as followers of the pseudo-messiahs SABBATAI ZEVI and JACOB FRANK have co-opted modern Freemasonry and are largely behind the current One-Worldist and Global-Zionist agendas. That is the "key" to "unlocking" the "mystery of decadence" of much of the modern world.

I will provide further information for those capable of receiving it:

[url="http://www.geocities.com/cliff_shack/articles.html"]http://www.geocities.com/cliff_shack/articles.html[/url]

This audio interview enlarges upon the Jewish roots of modern 'British' occultism as found in Crowley and his associates: Blood On The Altar: Beyond Freemasonry

Author Craig Heimbichner discusses Aleister Crowley's occult society: Ordo Templi Orientis.

[url="http://shows.vyzygothsgrassyknoll.org/heinbichner.mp3"]http://shows.vyzygothsgrassyknoll.org/heinbichner.mp3[/url]


Texas Dissident

2005-06-07 14:31 | User Profile

Good posts, Esoterist.


Esoterist

2005-06-07 15:02 | User Profile

Thank you TD. I dont concur with every little detail of the various authors and texts; one must discern the larger reality.

More extremely helpful info:

TIMELINE OF THE ASIATIC BRETHREN

[url="http://www.antiqillum.com/texts/tl/timeline_as_br.htm"]http://www.antiqillum.com/texts/tl/timeline_as_br.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.antiqillum.com/texts/tl/"]http://www.antiqillum.com/texts/tl/[/url]


albion

2005-06-07 16:17 | User Profile

[QUOTE=Esoterist]A heretical sect of Jews self-identified as followers of the pseudo-messiahs SABBATAI ZEVI and JACOB FRANK have co-opted modern Freemasonry and are largely behind the current One-Worldist and Global-Zionist agendas. [/QUOTE]HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? Because you read it on the Internet? [list] [][url="http://www.rense.com"]www.rense.com[/url] [][url="http://www.infowars.com"]www.infowars.com[/url] [][url="http://www.radioliberty.com"]www.radioliberty.com[/url] [][url="http://www.barrychamish.com"]www.barrychamish.com[/url] [/list]Do you believe everything you read on the web? :nerd:


Ponce

2005-06-07 16:39 | User Profile

Albion? I don't know about others but most of what I have learned about the Jews (Zionists) has been from the internet in the past eight years.

As a speed skeep reader I do go into a lot of information and then I balance A-B-C and then come with my own judgement.

My problem is that the more that I read the more that I am against those people because I haven't seen much in their favor.

A you know (maybe you don't) 78% of the news and almost 90% of books are controlled by the Zionists therefore you will not find anything (the truth) about them that way.

"When the truth comes into the light the lies will hide in the dark"... Ponce


TexasAnarch

2005-06-09 06:36 | User Profile

Its a fact. Anyone who thinks Freemasonry had anything whatever to do with Jews is either a Catholic or a Jew themselves. Or maybe just a Guckert/Sciavo/Fincklestein Re-pube. These are the ones supporting the real jews today. Going back and lying about the past won't save you. It will kill you, and good riddance. (Just using "YOU" like the medua do -- "side effects of pubesceryn can kill you..consult your Dr.") I don't support the globalists who have put over this war on America, but the ones backing this administration in America are mostly Catholics, Jews and Re-pubelikkuns, and that won't change. That has been pointed out on this board consistently for years now. The fact that there was no break with the Bushies shows it was nothing but trolling. Just "Jew" everything to death -- takes one to know one, and that which makes them Jews. This is really a jew board, except for me and a few others.

note The renegade Freemason lodge P2 in Italy was the work of Opus Dei and the criminal Gelli, not Jews. Like that guy Hansson who got FBI agents to watch his wife have sex, at least according to the cover story. Gimme atheists every time. At least they don't burn witches.

I gotta tell you -- I think these people knew how to take care of themselves. The terror of the situation is they have so tragically lost their way -- corrupted by the Jews. That doesn't really have anything to do with Catholics. They are free to pile on, like they did in Hitler's Germany, but nothing they present as a global perspective can be identified with America.

[url]http://www.ordotempli.org/history_of_the_knights_templar.htm[/url]


RowdyRoddyPiper

2005-06-09 07:55 | User Profile

[QUOTE=TexasAnarch]Its a fact. Anyone who thinks Freemasonry had anything whatever to do woth Jews is either a Catholic or a Jew themselves. Or maybe just a Guckert/Sciavo/Fincklestein Re-pube. [/QUOTE] LOL. How do you explain this site then?

[url]http://www.freemasonry.org.il/[/url]

Freemason monument on Egypt/Israeli border:

[IMG]http://www.thegoldenreport.com/asp/jerrysnewsmanager/articlefiles/863-freemasonaltar.jpg[/IMG]

Not that I really believe that Freemasonry is anything more than a Dungeons & Dragons club for tax accountants.


albion

2005-06-09 08:47 | User Profile

**[size=4]Conspiracy Too Monstrous To Conceive[/size] **

The Illuminati originates in the Jewish Kabala, Babylonian mystery cults, the Templars, Freemasons and assorted interests dedicated to Satan worship and absolute power. On May 1 1776, Adam Weishaupt, a professor at the University of Inglestadt in Germany, founded "The Order of the Illuminati." Many people believe Weishaupt was sponsored by Prince William of Hesse Casel and his banker Meyer Amschel Rothschild, the wealthiest man in the world. The Illuminati's goal was to destroy Western Civilization and to erect a new world order ruled by them. Its method was to dissolve all social ties (employer, nation, religion, race, family) by exploiting social discontent and promising a golden age of "human brotherhood." This is now called "globalization."

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Are the Illuminati taking over the world? [url="http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ritual_abuse/53556"]http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ritual_abuse/53556[/url]


albion

2005-06-10 20:52 | User Profile

[size=+1]Dear Mr. Rense,[/size]
[url="http://www.rense.com/general66/dweyb2.htm"]http://www.rense.com/general66/dweyb2.htm[/url]
[size=+1]I read with interest the excellent article you posted today about the Zabbateans plan for a Jewish holocoust in Israel. [/size]
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[size=+1]You Americans should be aware that the Zabbateans, in the opinion of many Jewish scholars today, are now in total control of your White House. They are always installed strategically in Washington as 'advisors', 'spokesmen', 'consultants', 'experts', 'institutes', etc.[/size]
[size=+1]I would like to inform you that their name is usually spelt as Sabbateans. I am enclosing an article below about them by Barry Chamish who is the best investigative journalist we have in Israel.[/size]
[url="http://www.barrychamish.com/general66/dweyb.htm"][size=4][url="http://www.barrychamish.com/html/kerry.html"]http://www.barrychamish.com/html/kerry.htm[/size][/url]l[/url]

grep14w

2005-06-10 21:42 | User Profile

Ugh. Well, I don't want to denigrate all anti-"masonic" conspiracy theories or even this particular one since there is a good deal of truth in it, but there are some blatant errors of fact that need to be pointed out, to wit:

The globalist open conspiracy is tripartite, mutually interpenetrating and possibly unstable, consisting of: (1) Fabian Trotskyite Internationalist Socialists (Clinton, Soros, Chomsky); (2) Rhodes Anglophile Imperialists (Samuel Huntington, George W. Bush, Zbigniew Brzezinski); (3) Rothschild-aligned Zionists (Henry Kissinger, Perle, Wolfowitz). Grouping Clinton and Soros is logical, but not Chomsky. He's about as far from a Fabian as you can get. And what the deuce is a "Fabian Trotskyite"? That sounds a lot like being "partially pregnant" or "insanely sane" - Fabianism by definition rules out Trotskyism; they are incompatible methodologies and ideologies. The only certifiable Trotskyites are in the Neo-Con camp, anyway. Chomsky opposes the NWO on every point; he's an anarchist or "libertarian socialist", not inclined to play ball with the One Worlders. Of course Chomsky has his problems, but pretending he is playing some part in this conspiracy is just asking us to believe too many improbable things at once.

Samuel Huntington is also as far from Bush and Brzenzinski as you can get; just because he's in CFR doesn't mean he's part of some "higher level" of the conspiracy. CFR recruits anyone and everyone who is in any way involved in international relations, as a way of co-opting them; that doesn't mean that everyone in the CFR is initiated into higher levels of the conspiracy. Huntington's critics have falsely accused him of promoting his "Clash of Civilizations" so as to promote the Neo-Con agenda, but this is ridiculous if you read Huntington's actual writings and public statements. Huntington is an old-line liberal, not a one worlder or a globalist or promoter of "world wide crusades for democracy" like Bush or Brzenzinski. Huntington merely points out the obvious facts that civilizations exist, are different from each other, and will tend to clash as a matter of course (he's merely stating the obvious facts); he doesn't advocate this clash, but recognizes that since it exists, steps should be taken to ameliorate the bad effects of this tendency to clash, whilst not sacrificing the true interests of the West in the process.

Henry Kissinger isn't a neo-con, isn't a Trotskyite advocate of "permanent revolution", doesn't care about crusades for democracy, and is very much a Realpolitik kind of guy - in other words, he has nothing in common with Wolfowitz and Perle, apart from being a Jew. I have no idea whether they are united in being "Rothschild aligned Zionists". It's possible, but if so, it is about the only thing they have in common.

I think the larger theme of Jewish attempts to infiltrate and "guide" the gentile elites through elitist (masonic, and other) organizations is a sound theme, but a lot of the particulars of the theory are highly speculative, to say the least, and some of them are flat out wrong.


TexasAnarch

2005-06-11 03:48 | User Profile

[QUOTE=RowdyRoddyPiper]LOL. How do you explain this site then?

[url]http://www.freemasonry.org.il/[/url]

Freemason monument on Egypt/Israeli border:

[IMG]http://www.thegoldenreport.com/asp/jerrysnewsmanager/articlefiles/863-freemasonaltar.jpg[/IMG]

Not that I really believe that Freemasonry is anything more than a Dungeons & Dragons club for tax accountants.[/QUOTE]

OK, I checked this out -- thanks -- and have to admit you are right. This "lodge" began in '53 -- looks like the Patton-Gehlen-Mengele-Hertzl combine infiltrated the masons after WWII and started up with the Jews. Modern initiatic orders are nothing more than late high school dipsticks -- D& D for tax accountants about says it all. Somewhere behind NAMBLA's and MENSA men.

 I didn't know or understand where the anti-fremasonry was coming from, in American terms.  But I will be first in line to put them on the Dead Sea steamboat, because they have betrayed America.  I sent the Ca. branch this e-mail.

"I am writing to inquire by what right you associate the Freemasons, a legacy of which is in my family, with anything having to do with the Zionist State of Israel. Are you a Jew?

"Freemasons have never had anything to do with either Jews or Catholics, because truth they recognize goes back before the Bible. I have been embarassed in front of colleagues by defending the purity of Knights Templars and Freemasonry from Jews or Catholic teachings, only to have this site referred to in contradiction.

Please remove it, now. These people are traitors of America, terrorizing populations by lying about the causes of war."
SId Thomas, Ph.D. Binghamton, New York


Texas Dissident

2005-06-11 09:16 | User Profile

[QUOTE=TexasAnarch]"I am writing to inquire by what right you associate the Freemasons, a legacy of which is in my family, with anything having to do with the Zionist State of Israel. Are you a Jew?

"Freemasons have never had anything to do with either Jews or Catholics, because truth they recognize goes back before the Bible. I have been embarassed in front of colleagues by defending the purity of Knights Templars and Freemasonry from Jews or Catholic teachings, only to have this site referred to in contradiction.[/QUOTE]

"According to (Albert) Pike, "Masonry is a search after light."(23) The question that one must ask oneself is, What is the source of this "Light" that contemporary Freemasonry is based on? Pike goes on to tell us that the light of Masonry is based on the Kabalah, or Jewish mysticism. For the Christian this is indeed a difficulty, because the Christian cannot accept the occult beliefs of the mystics. The Bible tells us that "truth" or "light" can only be found in God's Word...

Albert Pike speaks of Lucifer as the Light-bearer! "Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls?"(25) The Bible identifies Lucifer as being Satan and an angel of light. According to Paganism, Lucifer is the bearer of the light that enlightens man's understanding of his Higher Self or his "God Self." Masonic author Foster Bailey says it this way, "Masonry therefore, is not only a system of morality, inculcating the highest ethics through which result, if followed, the conscious unfolding of divinity. . . . It portrays the recovery of man's hidden divinity and its bringing forth into the light . . . the power to achieve perfection latent in every man." Masonry purports to be the Light that awakens man's mind to his perfection and ultimate divinity.

The question that begs to be answered by each Mason is simply this: "Which Light' will he follow, the true Light of Christ or the dimly lit light of the Lodge?"

[url]http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/masonry.html[/url]

[url=http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1086]Albert Pike[/url]


Angeleyes

2005-06-11 16:10 | User Profile

Good point.

IIRC, the Cathars also followed the path of "Light" in that sense. The Albigensian Crusade to generally put paid to them. I think there was a tie in between Templars, Cathars, and mysteries of the East that they had in common, not sure if it was Kabalah.

[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]"According to (Albert) Pike, "Masonry is a search after light."(23) The question that one must ask oneself is, What is the source of this "Light" that contemporary Freemasonry is based on? Pike goes on to tell us that the light of Masonry is based on the Kabalah, or Jewish mysticism. For the Christian this is indeed a difficulty, because the Christian cannot accept the occult beliefs of the mystics. The Bible tells us that "truth" or "light" can only be found in God's Word...

Albert Pike speaks of Lucifer as the Light-bearer! "Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls?"(25) The Bible identifies Lucifer as being Satan and an angel of light. According to Paganism, Lucifer is the bearer of the light that enlightens man's understanding of his Higher Self or his "God Self." Masonic author Foster Bailey says it this way, "Masonry therefore, is not only a system of morality, inculcating the highest ethics through which result, if followed, the conscious unfolding of divinity. . . . It portrays the recovery of man's hidden divinity and its bringing forth into the light . . . the power to achieve perfection latent in every man." Masonry purports to be the Light that awakens man's mind to his perfection and ultimate divinity.

The question that begs to be answered by each Mason is simply this: "Which Light' will he follow, the true Light of Christ or the dimly lit light of the Lodge?"

[url="http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/masonry.html"]http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/masonry.html[/url]

[url="http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1086"]Albert Pike[/url][/QUOTE]


albion

2005-06-12 00:47 | User Profile

Shamir's Blindspot


[url="http://www.rense.com/general66/passt.htm"]http://www.rense.com/general66/passt.htm[/url]

Israel Shamir is an eloquent writer with a breadth of experience and vision. He has crystallized the "Jewish problem" and put his finger on the cause of anti Semitism, i.e. the notion of a Chosen People charged with building a materialist "utopia," ultimately at the expense of all other nations, races and religions.

He recognizes that this elitist philosophy is suited to any neo feudal hierarchy but he fails to identify the real "generals."

His aversion to the idea of an Illuminati conspiracy prevents him from recognizing that the "Jewish polity" is itself a pawn in a larger game. Jewish or Israeli power derives from that of the London-based central bankers and their Rockefeller-CFR-CIA US subsidiary. Jewish "humanism" is a Trojan horse for the construction of "1984."

"Zionism is but an incident of a far reaching plan," Louis Marshall, an American Zionist leader and counsel for bankers Kuhn Loeb wrote in 1917. "It is merely a convenient peg on which to hang a powerful weapon."

The Jewish messianic spirit is "a powerful weapon" in the establishment the New World Order, a totalitarian world government run in the interest of what the "Protocols of Zion" call "an aristocracy of the rich." [url="http://www.geocities.com/alabasters_archive/the_jewish_peril.html"]http://www.geocities.com/alabasters...wish_peril.html[/url]

"On the ruins of natural and hereditary aristocracy we built an aristocracy of our own on a plutocratic basis. We established this new aristocracy on wealth, of which we had control and on science promoted by [our] scholars." (1-18)

Notice, the emphasis is on wealth not race or religion. "The Protocols of Zion" is Illuminati not Jewish. I have suggested elsewhere that the mainspring of the New World Order is the desire of central bankers to translate their control of credit into world institutions of political, social and spiritual control. [url="http://www.savethemales.ca/000808.html"]http://www.savethemales.ca/000808.html[/url]

The enslavement of humanity requires the destruction of all "collective forces except our own," nation, race, religion and family. Neo-liberalism achieves these goals under banners such as the marketplace, feminism, tolerance, diversity and multiculturalism.

Although most central bankers are racially Jewish, they belong to a Luciferian sect known as Sabbatean Frankists that actually hates the Jewish people and plots their ultimate destruction. Svali, a former Illuminati trainer said, "I have always wondered why some of the highest ranking financial families in the group (baron Rothschild of France is one of the 13 European lords, or "kings" that run the group in Europe, and sits on the World Council) are Jewish, yet the group espouses hatred of their own race." [url="http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html"]http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html[/url]

The Sabbateans are behind Zionism, Communism (and possibly Nazism) and are responsible for war and for the Jewish holocaust. They remove the Ten Commandments as well as references to Christ from public places. They make the Jewish people their instruments and eventually their scapegoats.

Take Eugene Meyer for example. He was Chairman of the Federal Reserve and President of the World Bank. His family owns The Washington Post Company. He was born Jewish but he married a German Lutheran and raised his children as Episcopalians.

The Sabbateans are part of the Illuminati, the top rung of Freemasonry devoted to enthroning Lucifer as God. Most of its members are not Jewish. Take George W. Bush and the other members of the Illuminati "Skull and Bones" for example.

Luciferianism suits elitists because it denies the existence of a natural design and absolute standards of justice, truth and morality. Instead it preaches atheism and decadence under the disguise of personal freedom.

Essentially it is a case of who will people obey and serve: God or Lucifer? If they believe in God, then they follow a healthy spiritual and moral design. If they believe in Lucifer, they are God and they can do whatever they wish. "Do what thou wilt," is their motto. Governed by self-interest, they are easy to control.

As Masonic revolutionary Guiseppe Mazzini said, "we corrupt in order to rule." Ultimately, the Luciferian plan is to enslave the masses.

CONCLUSION

In 1871, Albert Pike, (not a Jew) the Grand Commander of Freemasonry foretold "three world wars" designed to bring about Illuminati hegemony. The third war will be between political Zionism and the forces of Islam and result in the destruction of both. [url="http://www.savethemales.ca/000546.html"]http://www.savethemales.ca/000546.html[/url]

Can anyone deny that the stage is being set for such a conflagration, with Iran and China opposed to the US and Israel?

Judaism as well as Christianity and Islam, and many nations, have been subverted by the Illuminati. Our idealism has been tricked and misdirected. Humanity is the victim of an occult conspiracy of monstrous proportions.

Shamir's warning to Jews applies to all nations. Are we Luciferians? Are we pawns sacrificed in a game designed to enshrine Lucifer as ruler of the world?

It's time we stopped listening to the generals and started obeying our conscience. It's time we started being men. I conclude with Israel Shamir's prophetic words:

" The New World Order is, in religious terms the beginning of the Kingdom of the Antichrist, based on the removal of all spiritual elements from our life. In practical terms, it is an ambitious attempt at the total enslavement of Man." (118)

A PDF Version of the Pardes essay is online. [url="http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres2/PardesEng.pdf"]http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres2/PardesEng.pdf[/url]


Howard Campbell, Jr.

2005-06-12 01:35 | User Profile

So why was the British Empire allowed to fizzle into insignificance by 1965--just about the same time the Jews were displacing the deracinated WASPs as the ascendant ethnic bloc in America?

Ask not for whom the Red Heifer moos... :wink:

[url]http://www.bilderberg.org[/url]


albion

2005-06-15 23:11 | User Profile

[size=+1][font=Times New Roman][size=7][font=Arial][size=4]Is The Protocols Of Zion A Sabbatean Document?[/size][/font] [/size]

[left][size=+1][font=Times New Roman]By Jack Manuelian * * [/font][/size][font=Times New Roman]6-14-5[/font] [/left] [font=Courier New][size=3]This article of Jack is not copy-righted.[/size][/font]
[font=Garamond][size=4]The famous document known as the "Protocols of Zion" can be paraphrased as The Protocols of Zionism and most likely it was a secret Sabbatean Frankist document. Sabbateans had many writings which due to the secretive and revolutionary nature of their cult were kept hidden. The original Protocols seems to have been one of those that was no longer secret after parts of it was printed as minutes of a covert meeting in Paris in 1901, minutes that were later published in Russia by Nilus.[/size] [/font]

[font=Garamond][size=4]Sergyei Nilus, who first published the Protocols in 1902, wrote in its 1905 edition Introduction: "These are not exactly minutes of meetings, but a report made by some powerful person, divided into sections not always in a logical sequence. They convey the impression of being the part of something." Hence, what Nilus had in hand could be some notes taken from a Sabbatean original document which yet remain concealed. We only know a portion of the original that came to be known as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[/size] [/font]

[font=Garamond][size=4]Nilus also writes in the Introduction: "It is a true copy in translation, of original documents stolen by a woman from one of the most influential and most highly initiated leaders of Freemasonry (Orient Freemasonry). The theft was accomplished at the close of a secret meeting of the initiated in France in 1901, that nest of Jewish masonic conspiracy." When mention of a woman is made it clearly points the finger to Frankists who traded their wives and daughters with other members and sometimes with non-members whom they needed to influence or attract to their cult. Apparently one of those women, having been fed-up from being prostituted, had decided to retaliate by exposing the document in question. Or the document could have been leaked in purpose because of a known agreement between the forces of darkness and that of the light to declare/make it known their intentions to human beings before embarking on an enterprise that would practically enslave the people of earth in a global one world government. For this reason The Protocols mentions, at its beginning, that we " will expose the conception of our policy" which amounts to a declaration of intention to the earthlings.[/size] [/font] [left][font=Garamond][size=+1]Then the speaker defines those earthlings: "It must be noted that people with corrupt instincts are more numerous than those of noble instinct. Therefore in governing the world the best results are obtained by means of violence and intimidation, and not by academic discussions." The violence cited here would include a World War III. In the other hand the concept that humans are basically evil are reflected also in Sabbatean beliefs that state: "Since we cannot all be saints, let us all be sinners." Also the Talmud emphasizes that humans are basically brute beasts; for this same reason the Protocols opens its chapter II with the phrase "What restrained the wild beasts of prey which we call men? " Their solution of course is despotism and rulership by fear; fear being one of the main characteristics of the animals. Protocol 3.14 "The word 'liberty' brings society into conflict with all the powers, even with that of Nature and of God. That is why, when we come into power, we must strike the word 'liberty' out of the human dictionary, as being the symbol of bestial power, which turns the populace into blood-thirsty animals."[/size] [/font][/left]

[left][font=Garamond]Rabbi Antelman quotes Gershom Scholem in Volume 1, chapter 10, of his book To Eliminate The Opiate about a distinguishing belief of the Sabbateans that the "real Torah is not the real Torah and must be violated by conforming to another superior, alien mystical Torah of Atzilut (aristocracy)". Now, the Hebrew word "Atzilut" is translated by Antelman as "aristocracy" and this is the same word that we see in Protocol 1.18: "On the ruins of natural and hereditary aristocracy we built an aristocracy of our own on a plutocratic basis. We established this new aristocracy on wealth, of which we had control, and on science promoted by scholars." This Protocol shed some light on the new Torah spoken about by those Sabbateans and make us wonder whether they were not the real authors of the Protocols and if not all of its known "minutes" were actually reflections from their Torah of Atzilut. [/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond]Certainly the Frankists and their friends belonged to an "elite" new aristocracy. Antelman write in chapter 11 of his book: "The Frankist elite consisted of a circle of very gifted intellectuals, theologians and men of letters, as well as a group of men of great financial means who were for the most part great merchant bankers and exerted tremendous influence in their day in the highest financial circles of Europe....The list of the Frankist elite is long, and if one spent the time to study just the few families mentioned here, in depth; the information would fill several volumes. However, the same pattern continuously emerges. Brilliant, wealthy people addicted to power, anxious to assimilate (if they were born Jewish), to destroy religions, to indulge in radicalism, to live cryptic two-faced lives sometimes posing as religious Jews, Catholics, or Protestants but indulging their revolutionary radicalism in secret."[/font][/left]

[left][font=Garamond][size=+1]"It should be pointed out that when [in 18Th Century] attempts were made by the Illuminati, Jacobins and Frankists to infiltrate the Masons that their infiltration did not mean that they harbored any particular love for Freemasonry. On the contrary, they hated it with a passion and only wished to utilize the cover of Freemasonry as a means of spreading their revolutionary doctrines and to provide a place where they could covertly meet without arousing suspicion."[/size] [/font]

[left][font=Garamond]Protocol 5.4 "The only society known to us which would be capable of competing with us in these arts, might be that of the Jesuits. But we have managed to discredit these in the eyes of the stupid mob [the people] as being a palpable organization, whereas we ourselves have kept in the background, reserving our organization as a secret."[/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond]"Scholem informs us that the Frankists went underground around 1820, as their emissaries went from town to town and from family to family to collect their secret writings...As the years passed, the economic and intellectual position of the Frankists strengthened. They built factories and became active in Masonic organizations. They were known to have secret gatherings on the Ninth of Av [August] which they celebrated as a holiday, which is the Jewish fast day commemorating the destruction of both Temples. The center of Frankist activity changed from Frankfurt-Offenbach to Prague and then to Warsaw. The Frankists in Warsaw who were now concentrated among seemingly Catholic families maintained contact prior to World War II with the Turkish Donmeh Sabbatians, who were centered in Turkey and in Salonika, Greece. The Donmeh was active in the Committee for the Progress and Unity of the Young Turk Movement." [/font][/left]

[left][size=+1][font=Garamond]"The Frankists today [1971] no longer call themselves by that name. The Organization has grown into an international group labeled by outsiders as the Cult of the All-Seeing Eye." Cliff Shack in his website [/font][url="http://www.geocities.com/cliff_shack/"][font=Garamond]http://www.geocities.com/cliff_shack/[/font][/url][font=Garamond] has posted three chapters of the book by Antelman. In chapter 12 some details are given about their activities in US.[/font][/size]

[left][font=Times New Roman][size=4]Gershon Acholem mentions another distinguished belief of the Frankists: A Frankist believer "must not appear to be as he really is. " Rabbi Antelman comments on this belief that it "justified its followers' pursuit of the double type of life that they led. One could appear to be a religious Jew on the outside and in reality be a Frankist. For though the Donmeh officially converted to Islam and the Frankists to Catholicism, the great majority of Frankists who outwardly appeared to embrace Judaism integrated themselves into the Jewish community. Despite the fact that they were all outwardly religious, they still cherished as their goal "the annihilation of every religion and positive system of belief," and they dreamed "of a general revolution that would sweep away the past in a single stroke so that the world might be rebuilt." The concept of order-out-of-chaos is implied here.[/size][/font][/left] [left][url="http://www.geocities.com/alabasters_archive/the_jewish_peril.html"][font=Times New Roman][size=4][color=#0000ff]http://www.geocities.com/alabasters_archive/the_jewish_peril.html[/color][/size][/font][/url][/left] [left] [/left] [left][font=Garamond][size=4]Antelman then adds: "Gershom Scholem writes elsewhere, in his book Kabbalah and Its Symbolism: "For Frank, anarchic destruction represented all the Luciferian radiance, all the positive tones and overtones, of the word 'Life.' The nihilistic mystic descends into the abyss in which the freedom of living things is born: he passes through all the embodiments and forms that come his way, committing himself to none; and not content with rejecting and abrogating all values and laws, he tramples them underfoot and desecrates them, in order to attain the elixir of Life. In this radical interpretation of a symbol, the life-giving element of mystical experience was combined with its potential destructiveness. It goes without saying that from the standpoint of the community and its institutions, such mysticism should have been regarded as demonic possession. And it is indicative of one of the enormous tensions that run through the history of Judaism that this most destructive of all visions should have been formulated in its most unrestrained form by one who rebelled against the Jewish law and broke away from Judaism."[/size] [/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond][/font] [/left] [left][font=Garamond][size=4]The duplicity of the Frankists is also mentioned in Protocol 7.3 that states: "In order to obtain these ends we must have recourse to much slyness and artfulness during negotiations and agreements, but in what is called 'official language' we shall assume the opposite tactics of appearing honest and amenable. Thus the governments of the Gentiles [read the masses], which we taught to look only on the showy side of affairs, as we present these to them, will even look upon us as benefactors and saviors of humanity."[/size][/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond][/font] [/left] [left][font=Garamond][size=4]Another main Sabbatean belief is that "Godhead takes human form which allowed for leaders of the sect to be incarnated into that Godhead, from Shabbetai Tzvi through to Frank and others." (source Scholem). Hence, when Frankists convert to Christianity and Donmeh convert to Islam their God does not become Jesus Christ and the Christian Trinity or Mohammad and his Allah but the "Godhead of the Frankists included members of the sect" (Antelman). Therefore Sabbatai Zevi was their first incarnate God, after him Jacob Frank (or Yakov Frankovich? a typical Khazar Turkish-Jew) was their incarnate God. After Frank the godly reign apparently passed to the Rothschilds, and now their incarnate god is either a Rothschild god-man or they are waiting for his incarnation and manifestation among them like it is made clear in the Protocols of Zion. Just after a year of his apparent "conversion" Frank was thrown into jail because of this blasphemy.[/size][/font] [/left] [left] [/left] [left][font=Garamond][size=4]Antelman writes about prophet Sabbatai Zevi.: "At the time of his conversion [to Islam], thousands of his followers became disillusioned and abandoned the movement. However, there were still some stubborn followers who believed in him and, of course rationalized their following him by inventing some type of rationale. Hence the movement gave rise to a special Sabbatian sect in Turkey known as the Donmeh. The order maintained that the Messiah would have to sin before he could bring redemption, and this provided a rationale for believing in a Jewish Messiah who was of Islam. Many years after Shabbetai Tzvi's death, the Donmeh continued to exist and to grow. Jacob Frank encountered the Donmeh while he was a traveling salesman in Turkey (in 1757 Frank converted to Islam). He refined the concept of the Messiah sinning by urging members of the movement to sin, reasoning that if salvation could be gotten through purity, it could also be achieved through sin. Gershom Scholem, the great Kabbala authority, has elaborated on this theme in such writings as his Hebrew Mitzvah ha Ba'ah ba Averah , which was translated into an article that appeared in Commentary in 1971 entitled The Holiness of Sin; as well as a chapter in his Messianic Idea in Judaism entitled Redemption Through Sin, One of the ways that the Frankists indulged in their sin was to engage in sexual orgies. The Donmeh in Turkey officially converted to Islam in 1683 and the Frankists in Europe to Catholicism in 1759. However, their conversion to these religions was for the purpose of imitating the Sabbatian role models as well as for subverting and destroying these faiths."[/size][/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond][size=4][/size][/font] [/left] [left][font=Garamond][size=+1]In Protocol 1.8 we read: "Politics have nothing in common with morals. A ruler governed by morals is not a skilled politician, hence he is not firm on his throne. He who wants to rule must have recourse to cunningness and hypocrisy. The great human qualities of sincerity and honesty become vices in politics. They dethrone with more certainty than the bitterest enemy. These qualities have to be the attributes of the Gentile countries, but we are not in the least forced to be guided by them."[/size] [/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond][/font] [/left] [left][font=Garamond]Protocol 5.3 "We will organize a strong [federal] centralized government, so as to gain social powers for ourselves. By new laws we will regulate the political life of our subjects, as though they were so many parts of a machine. Such laws will gradually restrict all freedom and liberties allowed by the Gentiles. Thus our reign will develop into such a mighty despotism, that it will be able at any time or place to squash discontented or recalcitrant Gentiles [the freedom lovers of any race]." This is happening now in USA. It did happen in Nazi Germany and in Communist Russia. In US, our legislatures signed the Patriot Act without reading them. In Protocol 8.1 we read: "The administrators of the Gentiles sign papers without reading them, and serve for love of money or ambition."[/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond][/font] [/left] [left][font=Garamond]After 9/11 there was talk all over USA to set up a citizen spying mechanism in order to combat terrorism in our land. Well, this is not something new, some 100 years ago it was planned in the Protocols. Protocols 17.12 and 17.13: "We shall know everything...our programme will induce a third part of the populace to watch the remainder from a pure sense of duty and from the principle of voluntary government service.Then it will not be considered dishonorable to be a spy, on the contrary it will be regarded as praiseworthy. On the other hand, the bearers of false reports will be severely punished, in order to prevent abuse being made of the privilege of report." [/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond][/font] [/left] [left][font=Garamond]"In a state where power is badly organized, where the laws and the personality of the ruler are rendered inefficacious by the continual encroaching of liberalism, I take up a new line of attack, making use of the right of might to destroy the existing rules and regulations, seize the laws, reorganize all the institutions, and thus become the dictator of those who, of their own free will, liberally renounced their power and conferred it on us." Protocol [/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond][/font] [/left] [left][font=Garamond]They will enslave the people of the world in a global government based in collectivism of the masses and on the destruction of their individuality, as they state in Protocol 15.17: "They have not yet understood, and never will understand, that this wild dream [of collectivism/socialism/welferism] is contrary to the principal law of nature, which, from the beginning of the world, created a being unlike all others in order that he should have individuality."[/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond][/font] [/left] [left][left][font=Garamond][size=+1]God Almighty blustered through his prophet Micah addressing those fallen souls: "Hear now, heads of Jacob and rulers of the house of Israel. Is it not for you to know justice? You who hate good and love evil, who tear off their skin from them and their flesh from their bones, and who eat the flesh of my people, strip off their skin from them, break their bones, and chop them up as for the pot and as meat in a kettle." Micah 3:1-3[/size] [/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond][/font] [/left] [left][font=Garamond]In their defense, those wretched souls, give the following answer to God "From the temporary evil, to which we are now obliged to have recourse, will emerge the benefit of an unshakable rule, which will reinstate the course of the mechanism of natural existence [in a rule of absolute despotism], which has been destroyed by liberalism [by liberalism we mean liberty and freedom]. The end justifies the means. In making our plans we must pay attention not so much to what good and moral, as to what is necessary and profitable," Protocol 1.10. "This evil is the only means of attaining the goal of good. Therefore, we must not stop short before bribery, deceit and treachery, if these are to serve achievement of our cause," Protocol 1.15. It seems that those evil doers do not yet grasp that the words of all-seeing God in chapters 8 and 9 of the Book of Ezekiel is directed to them. [/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond][/font] [/left] [left][font=Garamond]Addendum: "We trust that the Gentiles will not entertain feelings of hatred against the erroneously believing mass of Israel in its innocence of the Satanic sin of its leaders who have already once proved themselves to be the destruction of Israel. Turning aside the wrath of God, there remains but one way"union of all Christians [and real Jews} in Our Lord Jesus Christ." Sergyei Nilus, 1905. [/font][/left] [left][font=Garamond][/font] [/left] [left][font=Garamond]And as a tribute to Rabbi Marvin S. Antelman, allow me to finish with what he said in his book: "Lest any of the information developed here serve as an outlet for some form of overt, vicarious or subtle anti-Semitism or lest someone entertain such thoughts as 'see what these Jews did' it should be pointed out that:[/font][/left] [left]

[left][font=Garamond][size=+1]1) It was the desire of the Jews to overthrow the yoke of bitter Christian anti-Semitic persecution that led them to initially embrace Sabbatianism from which Frankism evolved. [/size][/font][/left]

[left][font=Garamond][size=+1]2) Once anyone embraced these ideologies, he ceased to be a Jew, being a Jew only by birth or becoming a Jew in name only (JINO). [/size][/font][/left]
[left][font=Garamond][size=+1]3) The Socialists and Communists in Germany utilized the Frankist elite for their own ends and when they served the cause proceeded to exclude them from the millennium by expounding an anti-Semitic doctrine which declared all Jews as belonging to the Jewish race. Baptisms, formal conversion ceremonies or other means of escaping one's Jewish birth could never remove in the minds of these anti-Semites the taint of what they termed to be Jewish racial contamination.[/size] [/font][/left]
[/left] [/left] [left] [/left] [left][/font][/size] [/left] [/left] [/left] [url="http://www.rense.com/general66/sabb.htm"]http://www.rense.com/general66/sabb.htm[/url] --- ### TexasAnarch *2005-06-16 09:31* | [User Profile](/od/user/199) Reply to TD . Finding out the Jewish penetration of Freemasonry went through me with a chill. I think it must have been one reason, whether he knew it or not, that made Dad seem to grow suspicious, but teaching Southern Baptist adult mens Sunday School class for many decades in Lockney (you can check it out) and writing a book “Satan’s Autobiography” which I did not understand then, but am coming to now, were all not incompatible with Freemasonry. Of The Rotarians, Church Brotherhoods, and sportsmen (he was Superintendent of Schools and football coach 40’s – 50’s) some were in/some out of the local Lodge, which my uncle helped revive (he fought under MacArthur in the Pacific at rank of Captain in the US Army). Of all the men I have known, ‘Uncle Bill’ was far and away the most polished, complete, sane, accomplished American man, from whom I learned esteem for the military as a way of being. His son was my closest cousin. He was a serious Mason; to impugn them all with late high-school Satanist bullshit is a calumny. In the l850’s, this is the type of people that formed the back of the Know Nothing “American” party. The railed on Catholicism for bringing in Irish immigrants, liquor, and trouble. They prevented a stone donated by the Pope from being implanted in the Washington monument, for example, where it would be, today, if they hadn’t), and would have staved off Lincoln if the abolitionists hadn’t rent their emerging federal unity. They weren’t Satanic. They were just anti-Catholic and Jew and pro-American. Only a half-century forward from 1800, absorbing Andrew Jackson and staking out the Wild West while trying to remember the spirit of that “rope of sand” Washington called the U.S. Constitution to govern under. It had to be a new idea. They were its light. What does the word “light” communicate to you? Something different when the Egyptians use it than when it occurs in Revelation 22.16 “I am the Bright and Morning Star?” It that supposed to be metaphorical or metaphysical? – and if the latter – really real – how is this notion of Christ as Light different from what the Star of Bethlehem is supposed to be a sign of? Is that a touch of Satan? The Hermetic tradition, entirely independent of the few tattered scrolls of the Jewish Pentateuch from which Old Testament history starts, preserved ancient truths from Sumer and Egypt which went into the building of Solomon’s Temple in Jerusalem, as well as the Ziggarut Temple of Ninurta 800 yrs earlier, and via Thoth, the Scribe, all the way back to the origins of the incredibly wondrous Nile civilization. The Jews among whom Jesus appeared lacked any serious objective cosmology, using units of 4 x 7-day moon months in their calendars, vrs. the more accurate 3 x 10 day (“decades” vs. weeks) 12 month Solar year. Numbers uses as signs, and particularly 3 and 7, pervaded the esoterics of Bible God representation. It is continued in the use of 12 for the disciples (adaptation to the solar division of the circle of totality), 3 days in the tomb, 7th day of the week as Sabath, etc.. It is not Satanic to recognize, study, and be transformed by specific initiatic experiences through the study of these and other objective truths, particularly those connected with the secrets of building. For humans, the gift of the opportunity to build something was once a sacred endowment. Christianity itself is responsible for great destruction of ancient objective knowledge. Europe decimated Egypt just like the Washington-Vatican-TelAviv axis is decimating Iraq, carrying its once sacred objects off for gawkers. No, the light of truth, if truth is a light, cannot be Satanic. Truth is much, much older than anyone’s religion. It includes them, in fact. It includes how Dark Forces sealed up under Atlantis were released, causing it to sink, and remaining dormant after the deluge. Light can be understood materially, we understand now. But it is also the word used, not inappropriately, for what links stars, eyes, brain, and recognition of truth in sign-use. Moses glowed whenever he emerged from whatever was in the Tabernacle at Sinai. Several different strains of magical traditions thread the Bible. In addition to lacking a cosmology, they lacked knowledge of atomic-molecular construction of mater, chemical transformations, electrical cell-conduction (magnetism), detailed neurological brain-organ wiring in the human anatomy, not to mention psychoanalysis or Archetypal psychology. THEY WERE what these last two recovered as “the unconscious – oldest strata”, after millennia of being buried by Christians. Blinded by their own light, they tried to eliminate all that refused to assimilate on their own terms, and sealed their historical destiny behind walls of partial, if glorious truth. Now here is the story of Satanic force, today in history, beginning from this end and counting back: (lack of space prevents explaining why each case is Satanic) -The pending appointment of John Bolton, which will place the name of America before the world as a front for Zionism. -The parade of brain-dead-for-over-a decade shade of Terry Schiavo as a quasi-holy object -- sacred grail poster-girl for anti-abort fetus worshippers. This Satanic twist – Frist and DeLay hounding judges for not keeping her what they called ‘alive’ – is not yet returned with full-scale reversal: “profoundly atrophied” brains bleating about “the unborn” and “right to life”. Gay priests attending the Schiavo family’s spiritual needs. -The ritual vacoid spiritual urethane burial of Ronald Reagan, may he burn in hell -The recent spate of judge-related shootings in Chicago, Georgia (“Shooter sees the light”) -The DC sniper killings 9ll and anthrax poisoning -Columbine -Ok.C. bombing O.J. -Waco, WTC 1 -Son of Sam killings -murder of John Lennon -Charles Manson family –Tate/LaBianca killings Plus the American Enterprise Institute and neocon cabal responsible for the destructin of Iraq and pushing toward Iran. Recognizing the terrible, treasonous actions of some of modern descendants of Freemasonry, particularly as it has trailed through the Skull and Bones boys at Yale, the CIA, Mossad and into the hearts and minds of Americans through CNN, ...this equation of what it has been, historically, with Illuminati Satanism, “paganism”, and, I suppose DeSadism, all of which are to be seen in the pictures from Cell block A at Abu Ghraib is not to be tolerated. For conspiracy, its safe to always blame Republicans first. (The debvate in Christology between the Blood Jesus of Jewish martyrdom fame, vrs. the cosmological, neo-Platonic (hermetic) Jesus of Greek-Marcionite fame is still raging; is, in fact, I want to argue, the key metaphysical hinge-point of history. The disagreement between Scotus and Thomas was the same split --couldn't find the link I wanted to send.) --- ### edward gibbon *2005-06-16 16:37* | [User Profile](/od/user/24) From my book: [QUOTE]From Baltimore H.L. Mencken blamed American entry into that war on the management of news by the British ably assisted by Jews. He had been in Basel and Copenhagen in 1917 and found the news had been shaped by Jews ostensibly employed by American newspapers, but whose primary loyalty was to British interests. American readers never got a firsthand presentation of the German side. Mencken assigned that grave error to publishers who chose to print British interpretations. American academics who should have been available to interpret the German argument had spent years studying in Germany without picking up enough German to read a newspaper. Germany, since the Middle Ages had been surrounded by powerful and unconscionable enemies. Germany had been provoked and had fought magnificently. Even in 1918 exhausted by war for four years and badly outnumbered, the army of the Kaiser would have mauled the American army in the fair fight so beloved by American patriots. Mencken stated his opinion was shared by French officers who had seen four years of war. The sage of Baltimore regarded the belief of the American populace that one of "Our Boys" taken at random could fight 10 Englishmen, 20 Germans, 30 Frogs, 40 Wops, 50 Japs or 100 Bolsheviki was the faith of little children. Mencken's figures for the American Civil War had 200,000 dying from battlefield injuries which were about one-sixth of a France in World War I which had only 10% more in population of the United States of the Civil War. Mencken went so far to cite the opinion of General Robert E. Lee that the main reason the South lost was the Confederate soldier was badly supported by the civilian population. Being the average American of British stock was at best a second-rate Englishmen, the United States should be careful when choosing enemies. Mencken found no trace of Junker spirit amongst Vanderbilts, Morgans and Garys. They only had the spirit of the pawn shop. Even in the next war Mencken did not back the fight against Germany with enthusiasm. 1. H.L. Mencken, [I]Prejudices: A Selection[/I], pp91-117 (Vintage Edition, 1956) essay "On Being An American " selected from [I]Prejudices: Third Series[/I][/QUOTE]Mr. Mencken had a knack for offending people, but I suspect there was much truth behind what he wrote. --- ### TexasAnarch *2005-06-16 18:56* | [User Profile](/od/user/199) [QUOTE=edward gibbon]From my book: Mr. Mencken had a knack for offending people, but I suspect there was much truth behind what he wrote ... The sage of Baltimore regarded the belief of the American populace that one of "Our Boys" taken at random could fight 10 Englishmen, 20 Germans, 30 Frogs, 40 Wops, 50 Japs or 100 Bolsheviki was the faith of little children. [/QUOTE] I've come to admire Mencken a lot. This debunking of fantasy-inflated invulnerability of American soldiers is one good reason -- plus, as you well point out, the journalistic ethic that would have required presenting the German position...also unappreciated for a long time. Along the lines of delusional invulnerability, solders were told in WWII that Japanese bullets would bounce off like rubber, their planes were made of balsa wood, etc.. Its a paranoid thing --- imaging a mystic shield of righteous protection, when the truth of what is really happening can't be faced. It is behind the "thinking" of Reagan's "Star Wars" defense system, also. On the other hand, there is, in fact, a lot of power in that light when its right (just me speaking) --- ### albion *2005-06-16 23:59* | [User Profile](/od/user/1350) [url="http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-rothschild.html"]The Rothschild Internationalist-Zionist-Banking-One World Order Family[/url] "Let me issue and control a nation's money, and I care not who writes its laws." Statement above from Meyer Rothschild, reported as the most powerful man that ever lived. --- ### Bardamu *2005-06-17 01:33* | [User Profile](/od/user/326) > D. The Story from Nesta Webster. So, then, these groups may be portrayed as degree-peddling charlatans, but there is definitely a story they are telling in their respective Mythos, and this is, to us, at least AS important as the genealogical inheritance they possess(ed) in the lineage of the Authentic Tradition. For that matter, they may have actually been as close to the "real thing" as anyone is likely to get. I mean, look at what we have available to us today. Historical data is available, even moreso today, than when people like Mackenzie, Waite, Webster, and others were writing. As to the 3 ½ centuries prior to 1450, we have presented our hypothetical timeline in The City of Sin, elsewhere in Qadosh. For now, we shall continue this survey of the Rose Croix of Gold with some material from Nesta Webster. We include it because it does have some interesting material in it. That said, does not mean that we identify and/or agree with Nesta, Queen of the British Union of Fascists. "In the Rite of Perfection as worked in France and America this Cabalistic influence is shown in those degrees known under the name of the "Ineffable Degrees," derived from the Jewish belief in the mystery that surrounds the Ineffable Name of God. According to the custom of the Jews, the sacred name Jehovah or Jah-ve, composed of the four letters yod, he, vau, he, which formed the Tetragrammaton, was never to be pronounced by the profane, who were obliged to substitute for it the word "Adonai". The Tetragrammaton might only be uttered once a year on the Day of Atonement by the High Priest in the Holy of Holies amid the sound of trumpets and cymbals, which prevented the people from hearing it. It is said that in consequence of the people thus refraining from its utterance, the true pronunciation of the name was at last lost. The Jews further believed that the Tetragrammaton was possessed of unbounded powers. "He who pronounces it shakes heaven and earth and inspires the very angels with astonishment and terror." The Ineffable Name thus conferred miraculous gifts; it was engraved on the rod of Moses and enabled him to perform wonders, just as, according to the Toledot Yeshu, it conferred the same powers on Christ. "This superstition was clearly a part of Rosicrucian tradition, for the symbol of the Tetragrammaton within a triangle, adopted by the masonic lodges, figures in Fludd's Cabalistic system. In the "Ineffable Degrees" it was invested with all the mystic awe by which it is surrounded in Jewish theology, and, according to early American working: "Brothers and Companions of these degrees received the name of God as it was revealed to Enoch and were sworn to pronounce it but once in their lives." "In the alchemical version of the Rose-Croix degree referred to above the Ineffable Name is actually invested with magical powers as in the Jewish Cabala. Ragon, after describing the Jewish ceremony when the word Jehovah was pronounced by the High Priest in the Holy of Holies, goes on to say that "Schem-hamm-phorasch" another term for the Tetragrammaton, forms the sacred word of a Scotch degree, and that this belief in its mystic properties "will be found at the head of the instruction for the third degree of the Knight of the Black Eagle, called Rose-Croix," thus: Q: What is the most powerful name of God on the pentaculum? A: Adonai. Q: What is its power? A: To move the Universe. That one of the Knights who had the good fortune to pronounce it cabalistically would have at his disposal the powers that inhabit the four elements and the celestial spirits, and would possess all the virtues possible to man. [Maçonnerie Occulte, p. 91] That this form of the Rose-Croix was of purely Jewish origin is thus clearly evident. In the address to the candidate for initiation into the Rose-Croix degree at the Lodge of the "Contrat Social" it is stated: "This degree, which includes an Order of Perfect Masons, was brought to light by Brother R., who took it from the Kabbalistic treasure of the Doctor and Rabbi Neamuth, chief of the synagogue of Leyden in Holland, who had preserved its precious secrets and its costume, both of which we shall see in the same order in which he placed them in his mysterious Talmud." Now, we know that in the eighteenth century a society of Rosicrucian magicians had been instituted in Florence which was believed to date back to the fifteenth century and to have been partly, if not wholly composed of Orientals, as we shall see in the next chapter. [see below, quote from pp. 190-1.]; but it seems probable that this sect, whilst secretly inspiring the Rose-Croix masons, was itself either nameless or concealed under a disguise. Thus in 1782 an English Freemason writes: "I have found some rather curious MSS. in Algiers in Hebrew relating to the society of the Rosicrucians, which exists at present under another name with the same forms. I hope, moreover to be admitted to their knowledge." -- [Letter from General Rainsford of October, 1782, quoted in Transactions of the Jewish Historical Society, Vol. VIII. p. 125.] It has frequently been argued that Jews can have played no part in Freemasonry at this period since they themselves were not admitted to the Lodges. But this is by no means certain; in the article from The Gentleman's Magazine already quoted it is stated that Jews are admitted; de Luchet further quotes the instance of David Moses Hertz received in a London Lodge in 1787; and the author of Les Franc-Maçons écrasés, published in 1746, states that he has seen three Jews received into a lodge at Amsterdam. In the "Melchizedeck Lodges" of the Continent non-Christians were openly admitted, and here again the Rose-Croix degree occupies the most important place. The highest degrees of this rite were the Initiated Brothers of Asia, the Masters of the Wise, and the Royal-Priests, otherwise known as the degree of Melchizedeck or the true Brothers of the Rose-Croix. [Our note: cf. The Priory of SION usage: The Rose-Croix Veritas, or True Rose Croix.] This Order, usually described as the Asiatic Brethren, of which the centre was in Vienna and the leader a certain Baron von Eckhoffen, is said to have been a continuation of the "Brothers of the Golden and Rosy Cross," a revival of the seventeenth-century Rosicrucians organized in 1710 by a Saxon priest, Samuel Richter, known as Sincerus Renatus. The real origins of the Asiatic Brethren are, however, obscure and little literature on the subject is to be found in this country. [Our note: There are several strands that came into the Asiatic Brethren. One, the Gold RC; another the Martinist current; another the Bavarian Illuminati; another, and perhaps the most important, is the Frankist lineage, via Moses Dobruschka.] Their further title of "the Knights and Brethren of St. John the Evangelist" suggests Johannite inspiration and was clearly an imposture, since they included Jews, Turks, Persians, and Armenians. [But wait: in the land of the Seven Churches, wouldn't there be Jews, Turks, Persians, and Armenians?] De Luchet, who as a contemporary was in a position to acquire first-hand information, thus describes the organization of the Order, which, it will be seen, was entirely Judaic. "The superior direction is called the small and constant Sanhedrim of Europe. The names of those employed by which they conceal themselves from their inferiors are Hebrew. The signs of the third principal degree (i.e., the Rose-Croix) are Urim and Thummim. . . . The Order has the true secrets and the explanations, moral and physical, or the hieroglyphics of the very venerable Order of Freemasonry." The Initiate had to swear absolute submission and unswerving obedience to the laws of the Order and to follow its laws implicitly to the end of his life, without asking by whom they were given or whence they came. "Who," asks de Luchet, "gave to the Order these so-called secrets? That is the great and insidious question for the secret societies. But the Initiate who remains, and must remain eternally in the Order, never finds this out, he dare not even ask it, he must promise never to ask it. In this way those who participate in the secrets of the Order remain the Masters." Again, as in the Stricte Observance, the same system of "Concealed Superiors" - the same blind obedience to unknown directors! Under the guidance of these various sects of Illuminés a wave of occultism swept over France, and lodges everywhere became centres of instruction on the Cabala, magic, divination, alchemy, and theosophy; masonic rites degenerated into ceremonies for the evocation of spirits - women, who were now admitted to these assemblies, screamed, fainted, fell into convulsions, and lent themselves to experiments of the most horrible kind. [FOOTNOTE: The Baron de Gleichen, in describing the "Convulsionists" [sic], says that young women allowed themselves to be crucified, sometimes head downwards, at these meetings of the fanatics. He himself saw one nailed to the floor and her tongue cut with a razor. (Souvenirs du Baron de Gleichen, p. 185.)] -- Nesta Webster, Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, pp. 167 - 170. "That Falk was only one of several Concealed Superiors is further suggested by the intriguing correspondence of Savalette de Langes. "Schroeder," we read, "had for his master an old man of Suabia," by whom the Baron de Waechter was also said to have been instructed in Masonry, and to have become one of the most important initiates in Germany. Accordingly de Waechter was despatched by his Order to Florence in order to make enquiries on further secrets and on certain famous treasures about which Schroepfer, the Baron de Hundt, and others had heard that Aprosi, the secretary of the Pretender, gould give them information. Waechter, however, wrote to say that all they had been told on the latter point was fabulous, but that he had met in Florence certain "Brothers of the Holy Land," who had initiated him into marvellous secrets; one in particular who is described as "a man who is not a European" had "perfectly instructed him." Moreover, de Waechter, who had set forth poor, returned loaded with riches attributed by his fellow-masons to the "Asiatic Brethren" he had frequented in Florence who possessed the art of making gold. I would suggest then that these were the members of the "Italian Order" referred to by Mr. Tuckett, which, like Schroepfer and de Hundt, he imagined to have been connected with the Jacobites." - Ibid., pp. 190-1. All of this Tetragrammaton and the Holy of Holies stuff is bullshit. It was just the medieval equivalent of the mass media. --- ### Esoterist *2005-06-21 17:38* | [User Profile](/od/user/1359) [url="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rose-Noire/message/1061"][font=Arial]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rose-Noire/message/1061[/font][/url] [font=Arial]From a post by 'Archonis Nihilus':[/font] [font=Arial][color=#202020]"...I am a **[size=4]Sabbatean Zionist Satanist[/size]** and I believe in the [size=3]**destruction of all institutional forms of order**[/size], and the attaining of [size=3]**Luciferian transcendence through absolute chaos and destruction**[/size]. [size=3]**So being a Jew myself, I have to attack Jews and screw them up, and screw Israel up.**[/size] Through antinominian exploration [size=3]**I must also love Nazis**[/size], but also try to mess them up every way I can, as part of [size=3]**the dialectic of Total Chaos**[/size]. My attacking and flaming Bill White shows that I actually love Bill White and I do.... But also he makes me angry because he can be more offensive and destructive than I am.... So it is a mystery..... [...] **[size=3]We need a holocaust of Jews in the USA, so all the American Jews will flee to Israel and force all the Palestinians out.[/size]** We will push all of these ragheads back into the Arab countries. Then Israel will have more of us Sabbateans in it, and we can get to work at ****ing up Israel as much as possible. [size=4]**The final goal is to ignite a global nuclear holocaust** **and put an end to all life on earth altogether. Then the seeds of Luciferian Spirit will be freed forever from the muck of matter; that has thus been turned to dust and blown away into chaos.**[/size] The earth will be a radioactive waste, and then we will rise forth with Lucifer to destroy the Universe, and that will be the next thing, the "New Show." In the "World To Come," we Sabbatians will be there with the Hasidics and the rest. We will be there so we can **** everything up, as we will the Macrocosm itself until it is all reduced to Nothingness, which is the sole truth. [size=3]**Why be a Buddhist and just transcend phenomena? Why not reach transcendence through the destruction of all phenomenal forms? First govermments and societies through total anarchy, and then the annihilation of all life on the earth? Then the Universe? What could be more perfect? It is the mitzvah to end all mitzvahs!**[/size] [size=3]**Zionism is good, because it will turn the world against the Jews and Israel, and that is a means to an end. Israel raining nuclear death on the world is the end, as well as fomenting all other forms of Chaos. Bill White and Nazis are part of the dialectic, we could not do without them.**[/size] But Bill is not being as good a Nazi as he could be, so I am prodding him into improving in that regard, although in being offensive he is first rate. [size=3]**Hail Lucifer, Crimson Jewel who hath fallen from the Crown Of **[size=4]**Kether** [/size][size=2][judeo-masonic-kabbalistic term for the [color=#000000]first and highest Sephirah on the Tree of Life[/color]][/size]**, to you be the power and the glory forever, amen**[/size]......."[/color][/font] ---