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Thread ID: 18555 | Posts: 37 | Started: 2005-06-06
2005-06-06 23:52 | User Profile
because it is so unconvincing. When I listen to these people talk, all I hear is how great the white race is and how sub-par everyone else is. And they "prove it" by coming up with a cavalcade of insulting names to call their opponents, and boasting of a history that is based on stealing land, murdering, violating, and enslaving other races, and that's supposed to make them "superior". Pathetic.
2005-06-07 00:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JakeBlues]because it is so unconvincing. When I listen to these people talk, all I hear is how great the white race is and how sub-par everyone else is. And they "prove it" by coming up with a cavalcade of insulting names to call their opponents, and boasting of a history that is based on stealing land, murdering, violating, and enslaving other races, and that's supposed to make them "superior". Pathetic.[/QUOTE] Well, maybe we're not "superior" per se, but we are pretty damn awesome. :flex:
2005-06-07 02:28 | User Profile
There are facts in this life. Inability to objectify fact is a direct result of prejudice and uninformed, biased opinion. When so-called "whites" say they are "superior" in the aspects of the world and its history, they are saying so because this is merely historical fact. The other people, good as most of them may be, are struggling to disinform and re-paste true history with their own agenda. That agenda is a manifestation of their own racial pride. Racial pride NEVER motivated the "white" race. Whether it was Zeus, Christ, Apollo, Athena or the pyramids, nothing was borne of racial pride. The aspiration to move higher, to seek truth, to understand, motivated them. The God-Given Talents which they mastered are not to be denied. Art, Architecture, Farming, Husbandry, Engineering, Astronomy, Writing, etc.
I sometimes wonder if I was Negro, or Chinese, or other, would I "think" the same way ? Well, it is a condition of INSANITY that one cannot accept FACT. Accepting FACT is the number ONE revelation one can do in order to move forward. Not accepting FACT, their paths wallow down a windy, stagnant and fruitless road to Perdition, because They are the ones with Pride, not US. We merely place Pride in recognizing FACT. If that FACT is too hard for you to digest, it is because you are a sinner, and a proud pariah, a comedian and a faker of thyself.
2005-06-07 02:57 | User Profile
Big effing deal. Go cry me a river. There's absolutely no need to "prove" White superiority to anyone. It speaks for itself. :thumbsup:
[QUOTE=JakeBlues]because it is so unconvincing. When I listen to these people talk, all I hear is how great the white race is and how sub-par everyone else is. And they "prove it" by coming up with a cavalcade of insulting names to call their opponents, and boasting of a history that is based on stealing land, murdering, violating, and enslaving other races, and that's supposed to make them "superior". Pathetic.[/QUOTE]Next...
2005-06-07 04:04 | User Profile
To use old black Civil Rights terminology we must "keep our eyes on the prize." Our ultimate objective, as I see it, is to form a White National Community, not tear down other races. Now in the course of building that community we must engender in our people (in particular young whites) a pride in the accomplishments of our race. This means we must counter all the anti-white ideas held by white people. Youngsters of our race are taught that our race is evil. This has to stop.
We can engender a seemly pride in young whites without extreme hatred and wrath toward other races. I hope the blacks develop legitimate and valid national communities seperate from our people. All peoples, even those that are somewhat barbaric, deserve national self-determination. The only possible excpetion here might be the Jews, who are by their very nature anti-National, but if some kind of fair solution to the Jewish problem could be developed without dispossessing other peoples, I would be open to a discussion on the matter.
2005-06-08 15:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=CornCod]To use old black Civil Rights terminology we must "keep our eyes on the prize." Our ultimate objective, as I see it, is to form a White National Community, not tear down other races. Now in the course of building that community we must engender in our people (in particular young whites) a pride in the accomplishments of our race. This means we must counter all the anti-white ideas held by white people. Youngsters of our race are taught that our race is evil. This has to stop.
We can engender a seemly pride in young whites without extreme hatred and wrath toward other races. I hope the blacks develop legitimate and valid national communities seperate from our people. All peoples, even those that are somewhat barbaric, deserve national self-determination. The only possible excpetion here might be the Jews, who are by their very nature anti-National, but if some kind of fair solution to the Jewish problem could be developed without dispossessing other peoples, I would be open to a discussion on the matter.[/QUOTE]
Other peoples hate the whites. They aren't going to sit idly by while the white people rebuild a white nation.
2005-06-09 04:28 | User Profile
Other peoples do indeed hate the whites, but I am convinced that that hatred is about an inch thick. Its the Jewish hatred of whites that is the deepest. We defeat the Jews and the Blacks, the Hispanics and the Asians remain a problem, but since they have their own aspirations for self-determination maybe a deal can be struck. It may not be entirely neat and tidy but we should prepare ourselves mentally to talk to these other peoples. Separation, not destruction should be our watchword.
2005-06-09 18:33 | User Profile
[QUOTE=CornCod]Other peoples do indeed hate the whites, but I am convinced that that hatred is about an inch thick. Its the Jewish hatred of whites that is the deepest. We defeat the Jews and the Blacks, the Hispanics and the Asians remain a problem, but since they have their own aspirations for self-determination maybe a deal can be struck. It may not be entirely neat and tidy but we should prepare ourselves mentally to talk to these other peoples. Separation, not destruction should be our watchword.[/QUOTE] The whites seem to be fighting old wars. We have defeated the Asians, the blacks, the Jews, and Hispanics. However, the bleeding hearts want to resurrect the fight in the name of justice. Eventhough, as you have stated, separatism is probably the best for whites. However, other groups don't want to separate from us despite their rhetoric. They realize white people can develop a civilization which is worthy of the name, and a place where people want to live.
2005-06-11 19:22 | User Profile
Without God (Jesus) we are nothing... we have the last seventy years as proof.
2005-06-12 14:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]Without God (Jesus) we are nothing... we have the last seventy years as proof.[/QUOTE] There is nothing which scares Jews and Moslems more than Christianity.
2005-06-12 14:37 | User Profile
True, but what kind of Christianity? Surely not the weak-souled, self-hating, multicultural, feminized variety of the 'Judeo-Christianity' ideology that prevails in Catholic and Protestant churches today.
[QUOTE=Ron]There is nothing which scares Jews and Moslems more than Christianity.[/QUOTE]
2005-06-12 15:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ron]There is nothing which scares Jews and Moslems more than Christianity.[/QUOTE]
What is scary about putting murderers, rapists, and kidnappers to death?
What is scary about being a called out and separate people from the rest of the races?
What is scary about honoring your parents?
What is scary about respecting the Sabbath?
What is scary about not charging usury to our own people?
What is scary about not lying and gossiping about people?
What is scary about having fair weights and measurements?
What is scary about eating only clean food?
What is scary about making thieves pay back double or triple to their VICTIMS?
What is scary about NOT having prisons, but only holding cells for holding the accused until he or she is given a timely and a fair trial?
2005-06-12 17:42 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]What is scary about putting murderers, rapists, and kidnappers to death?
What is scary about being a called out and separate people from the rest of the races?
What is scary about honoring your parents?
What is scary about respecting the Sabbath?
What is scary about not charging usury to our own people?
What is scary about not lying and gossiping about people?
What is scary about having fair weights and measurements?
What is scary about eating only clean food?
What is scary about making thieves pay back double or triple to their VICTIMS?
What is scary about NOT having prisons, but only holding cells for holding the accused until he or she is given a timely and a fair trial?[/QUOTE]
Please enlighten me. I assume you are a devout Christian, and one who dislikes Jews. However, Christianity started as a branch of Judaism. Jesus was considered as the Jewish Messiah, King of the Jews, and I haven't read ,or heard of any verse in the NT where Jesus renounced Judaism. Jesus, by his own words, was a Jew. There are no two ways about it, Judaism is the mother of Christianity. How can you not accept Judaism while accepting Christianity?
2005-06-12 19:04 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ron]Please enlighten me. I assume you are a devout Christian, and one who dislikes Jews. However, Christianity started as a branch of Judaism. Jesus was considered as the Jewish Messiah, King of the Jews, and I haven't read ,or heard of any verse in the NT where Jesus renounced Judaism. Jesus, by his own words, was a Jew. There are no two ways about it, Judaism is the mother of Christianity. How can you not accept Judaism while accepting Christianity?[/QUOTE]
I dislike Zionist; they would think nothing of sacrificing ââ¬Ësmallââ¬â¢ Jews for their ââ¬Ëcauseââ¬â¢.
Prove to me that Judaism is the mother of Christianity. :oh:
Are you a Jew, Ron?
2005-06-12 19:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ron]Please enlighten me. I assume you are a devout Christian, and one who dislikes Jews. However, Christianity started as a branch of Judaism. Jesus was considered as the Jewish Messiah, King of the Jews, and I haven't read ,or heard of any verse in the NT where Jesus renounced Judaism. Jesus, by his own words, was a Jew. There are no two ways about it, Judaism is the mother of Christianity. How can you not accept Judaism while accepting Christianity?[/QUOTE] By a similar logic, Islam is a branch of Judaism. Feel free to go to any Mosque and make that assertion. Let me know where you want your body shipped.
Jesus tried to get the Jews to reform, to return to the laws of God. Some followed his teachings, a great many others chose not to. His message was spread to the Gentiles, who were far more receptive to the message than were those whose blinders were already on.
Small wonder the Jews and Christians of Pre Constantine time had a hard time reconciling the way to follow God's law. Too many parochial interests involved.
2005-06-13 00:24 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ron]Please enlighten me. I assume you are a devout Christian, and one who dislikes Jews. However, Christianity started as a branch of Judaism. Jesus was considered as the Jewish Messiah, King of the Jews, and I haven't read ,or heard of any verse in the NT where Jesus renounced Judaism. Jesus, by his own words, was a Jew. There are no two ways about it, Judaism is the mother of Christianity. How can you not accept Judaism while accepting Christianity?[/QUOTE] Judaism as it is practiced today is not the Old Testament religion. It's as simple as that. Having a low regard for "Judaism," then, is not a lapse into Marcionism or any comment at all on the religion of the Old Covenant people.
Jewish Encyclopedia: "... and with the destruction of the Temple the Sadducees disappeared altogether, leaving the regulation of all Jewish affairs in the hands of the Pharisees. Henceforth Jewish life was regulated by the teachings of the Pharisees; the whole history of Judaism was reconstructed from the Pharisaic point of view, and a new aspect was given to the Sanhedrin of the past. A new chain of tradition supplanted the older, priestly tradition. Pharisaism shaped the character of Judaism and the life and thought of the Jew for all the future."
Jesus was a Jew if by "Jew" you mean a practitioner (and a fulfillment of) the Old Covenant religion, particulary as a member of the House of Judah. He was by no means a practitioner of modern Judaism. That "branch" got broken off the "olive tree" of Israel (Romans 11) because of their unbelief in the One all the Prophets predicted. They became, instead, those who say they are Jews but are not (Apocalypse 3:9).
2005-06-13 12:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ron]Please enlighten me. I assume you are a devout Christian, and one who dislikes Jews. However, Christianity started as a branch of Judaism. Jesus was considered as the Jewish Messiah, King of the Jews, and I haven't read ,or heard of any verse in the NT where Jesus renounced Judaism. Jesus, by his own words, was a Jew. There are no two ways about it, Judaism is the mother of Christianity. How can you not accept Judaism while accepting Christianity?[/QUOTE]
Race-Crimes Reach Hospitals: Jewish Extremists Attempt to Kill Child at an Israeli Hospital in Jerusalem
GAZA, June 13, 2005 (IPC + Agencies) - - Two Jewish extremists attempted on Sunday to murder a Palestinian child at an Israeli hospital in Jerusalem, eyewitnesses asserted.
The witnesses added that Hanin Kamal, 3, a resident of East Jerusalem, was hospitalized at Hadassa Ein Karem Hospital in West Jerusalem, when two extremist Jews entered her room and tried to disconnect the life-sustaining machines and feeding tubes from her tiny body, then attempted to choke the life out of her.
Hanin screamed as hard as she can, alerting the nearby hospital security, who also attempted to smuggle the extremists out of the hospital and deny their crime, but the girl's family insisted on calling the Israeli police, who took the criminals into the police station.
Eyewitnesses asserted that the child was shocked and terrorized by the shocking attempt on her life, while her parents were unable to believe the brutality of the crime, and demanded an immediate evacuation of their daughter to another hospital.
Shortly following the incident, several Jewish fanatics gathered at the hospital's entrance and shouted racist and Anti-Semitic slogans, and tried to attack the Jerusalemite workers in the hospital.
Several workers at Hadassa Ein Karem Hospital confirmed that Palestinian patients have suffered several race-motivated assaults against them inside the hospital, and that security personnel add fuel to the fire of racism, blaming Jerusalemite workers for every incident and mistake.
Jewish extremists and Israeli settlers have often targeted children in the occupied Palestinian territories, whether by abuse, running them over with their cars, direct intentional shooting or, as in this case, murder inside hospitals.
[url]http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_new/english/eyewitness/details.asp?name=5381[/url]
This is why I don't like Zionist.
2005-06-13 13:38 | User Profile
Likely, only Blacks, Jews, and White liberals have any fear about the concept of White superiority. Asians take feelings of racial pride as a matter of course, and don't understand why any group would not care to defend its own. Moreover, Asians have confidence in their numbers and brains, and their secure position as a race of the future. An important point is that they also don't have to grapple with any guilt complex foisted on them about slavery, the holocaust, etc., nor do the comman religions practiced require them to think of themselves as sinners on the way to hell.But Asians still have a healthy respect for White technology, and they know that the dusky legions are not going to build and launch an aircraft carrier or missile to be used against them. Adherents of traditional religions to this form overlook just how harmful, current Christian thought works against western white interests. They should look very carefully at contemporary Christian practice, which is in many cases just a form of leftism with a biblical veneer.
2005-06-13 16:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=solutrian]Asians take feelings of racial pride as a matter of course, and don't understand why any group would not care to defend its own. Moreover, Asians have confidence in their numbers and brains, and their secure position as a race of the future.
They also all look like each other and have no sense of individuality. That's a Western thing that has its origin in our understanding of the Christian Triune God.
An important point is that they also don't have to grapple with any guilt complex foisted on them about slavery, the holocaust, etc., nor do the comman religions practiced require them to think of themselves as sinners on the way to hell.
That's about 90% of the problem right there--I don't see too many Westerners anywhere that personally think of themselves as sinners. Of course I take your point here to be that Westerners have collectively displaced their own sense of personal sin to some kind of collective guilt complex for things like slavery, etc. That's an interesting point, but as hedonistic, decadent and pagan as Western societies and culture are fastly becoming, I don't think it's a phenomenon that will continue on much longer. The days may well be numbered for collective guilt pimps like Abe Foxman and Jessie Jackson, but on the other hand we may not like the culture and society that we become in the process. I know, it's a real paradox.
But Asians still have a healthy respect for White technology
Which would likely never have appeared if not for philisophical, religious and scientific constructs founded in and produced by Western Christendom. These things just don't spring out of a box.
Adherents of traditional religions to this form overlook just how harmful, current Christian thought works against western white interests. They should look very carefully at contemporary Christian practice, which is in many cases just a form of leftism with a biblical veneer.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you somewhat. Cultural Marxists have wreaked total havoc throughout every Western institution and there's not one that couldn't be described as a form of leftism with a thin veneer of what it historically stood for. My only point would be to be careful what we wish for and not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Many of the things we enjoy here in the West quite simply would not exist without our experience of two thousand years of Christianity.
2005-06-14 00:41 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes]By a similar logic, Islam is a branch of Judaism. Feel free to go to any Mosque and make that assertion. Let me know where you want your body shipped.
Jesus tried to get the Jews to reform, to return to the laws of God. Some followed his teachings, a great many others chose not to. His message was spread to the Gentiles, who were far more receptive to the message than were those whose blinders were already on.
Small wonder the Jews and Christians of Pre Constantine time had a hard time reconciling the way to follow God's law. Too many parochial interests involved.[/QUOTE]
Mohammad never claimed to be a Jew. He found his inspiration by lapsing into a trance, and dictated the Koran to his wife who then wrote it down. For Mohammad was an illiterate. Jesus is another matter. However, I am not bickering with Jesus as he made his religion quite clear. Also, I am not disagreeing with Christians as I believe in the freedom of religion and worship. However, I just wonder why someone who dislikes Jews would embrace Jesus.
2005-06-14 04:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ron]Mohammad never claimed to be a Jew. He found his inspiration by lapsing into a trance, and dictated the Koran to his wife who then wrote it down. For Mohammad was an illiterate. Jesus is another matter. However, I am not bickering with Jesus as he made his religion quite clear. Also, I am not disagreeing with Christians as I believe in the freedom of religion and worship. However, I just wonder why someone who dislikes Jews would embrace Jesus.[/QUOTE] Mohammed copied the pattern of a holy man going into the wilderness and coming back with "the Word of God." Funny, he had already learned about Moses and Jesus going into the wilderness as part of their life journeys, and how they brought the correct Word to people who had strayed. He was a bloody plagiarist. If you want to be bored to sleep someday, read the Koran. I read a 1956 translation into English, and it took me many weeks and a lot of coffee. Boring boring boring. And derivative of the beliefs of the previous "Peoples of the Book." Note how Islam treats Jesus as a Prophet. This allows Mohamed to be seen as "the most recent prophet, just like Jesus or Moses."
Sorry, it's just a little too convenient. Oh, and did I mention repetitive and boring?
As to why "not embrace?" In those days, religion mattered more to everyday folks than it does in some Western societies, so I think it is hard for a lot of modern Westerners to grasp the context and importance of bifurcations in Faith.
2005-06-14 05:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ron] I just wonder why someone who dislikes Jews would embrace Jesus.[/QUOTE]
The reason is as follows.
Jesus hated the religion of the Pharisees.
The great majority of modern Jews claim direct decent from the Pharisees (which is true, the Talmud being in essence a later written compilation of the Pharisees' oral tradition).
It follows that faithful followers of Christ must despise Phariseism, and by extension Phariseism's bastard children, such as Marxism, feminism, and so forth.
Since the great majority of modern day Jews are infected with Talmudism in one way or another, and since it's difficult in practice to separate hatred of a man from hatred of his religion, orthodox Christianity of necessity takes on the overall appearance of anti-Semitism.
A real Christian is an anti-Semite, at least as the word is popularly defined today.
It also follows that true Christians have a great deal in common with those Jews - such as the Karaites - who consciously reject the Talmud and embrace the entire Old Testament as primary Scripture (without the alternative narrative provided by the Talmud and Kabbalah).
2005-06-14 05:14 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Angeleyes] Note how Islam treats Jesus as a Prophet. This allows Mohamed to be seen as "the most recent prophet, just like Jesus or Moses."
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They also seize upon Christ's words about how it was good for us that He left this world, because otherwise the Paraclete couldn't come.
They say, blasphemously, that the Paraclete is Mohammed.
2005-06-14 07:11 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ron]However, I just wonder why someone who dislikes Jews would embrace Jesus.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure in most cases, the latter precedes the former. Even then, I don't think "disliking jews" is the proper term. Christians oppose jews to the extent that jewish belief is utterly opposed to Christian-belief, to the contrary of all calls for 'interfaith dialogue' and other such nonsense. The same would apply to muslims, hindus, buddhists, seth-channeling earth pagans and any other anti-Christian religion.
2005-06-14 17:25 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Walter Yannis]The reason is as follows.
Jesus hated the religion of the Pharisees.
The great majority of modern Jews claim direct decent from the Pharisees (which is true, the Talmud being in essence a later written compilation of the Pharisees' oral tradition).
It follows that faithful followers of Christ must despise Phariseism, and by extension Phariseism's bastard children, such as Marxism, feminism, and so forth.
Since the great majority of modern day Jews are infected with Talmudism in one way or another, and since it's difficult in practice to separate hatred of a man from hatred of his religion, orthodox Christianity of necessity takes on the overall appearance of anti-Semitism.
A real Christian is an anti-Semite, at least as the word is popularly defined today.
It also follows that true Christians have a great deal in common with those Jews - such as the Karaites - who consciously reject the Talmud and embrace the entire Old Testament as primary Scripture (without the alternative narrative provided by the Talmud and Kabbalah).[/QUOTE]
Jesus considered the Pharisee to be hypocrites, and the tools of Jewish oppression by aligning themselves with Rome. He didn't hate their religion, to the contrary, he believed they had strayed from the religion.
2005-06-14 17:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ron]Jesus considered the Pharisee to be hypocrites, and the tools of Jewish oppression by aligning themselves with Rome. He didn't hate their religion, to the contrary, he believed they had strayed from the religion.[/QUOTE] On the contrary, He did hate their religion, and He let them know in no uncertain terms. They had strayed so far from their ancestral religion, that they had adopted a new one. Judaism is not the religion of the Old Testament; it is the religion of the Pharisees that is based strictly upon the interpretation of the Old Testament by the rabbinic class. Jewish sources are quite frank in acknowledging this. Israel Shahak and Michael Hoffman have both written excellent books showing that the Old Testament and the Talmud are absolutely not the same.
2005-06-14 17:53 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ron]Jesus considered the Pharisee to be hypocrites, and the tools of Jewish oppression by aligning themselves with Rome. He didn't hate their religion, to the contrary, he believed they had strayed from the religion.[/QUOTE]The Pharisees were corrupt theocrats, and promulgators of the old covenant. Jesus brought God's new covenant with man. Obviously, if the Jews were to embrace this new religious faith, the Pharisees would lose much of their power and influence. It's a bit of a mixed issue.
Let's get back to basics though. Man has fallen from the state of grace and God, being wholly good, can have nothing to do with him. His plan for the redemption of man was the long, seemingly cruel morality play called the Old Testament, culminating in the birth of Jesus Christ, the Savior of Mankind. Blood is the price God demands for sin. (Why? Because He says so. You can believe it or not.)
That's why He directed the slaughter of an unblemished animal to atone for sin. Christ was the perfect and complete sacrifice. There are no more ordained "gatekeepers" for man's relation with God. The blood of Jesus is sufficient to cover the sins of the whole world. Believe in Him and you will be a member of His Kingdom.
That's what all the prophets were talking about while the nation of Israel suffered under Babylonian and Assyrian occupations, a metaphor for man's own travails, cut off from his true home, at the hands of the lord of this world. The Jews thought the prophets were talking about a Messiah who would re-establish the throne of David and the kingdom of Israel. That wasn't it. Jesus came to re-establish Man's relationship with God that was lost at Eden.
That's why Judaism is over. Finished. Heresy. Really, even its contemporary practitioners, outside the Orthodox, no longer believe in one of its central tenets: the coming of the Messiah. Hence, Judaism is not so much a religion as it is a form of ethnic nationalism. Zionism and the Holocaust are its sacraments.
2005-06-15 05:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Stuka]True, but what kind of Christianity? Surely not the weak-souled, self-hating, multicultural, feminized variety of the 'Judeo-Christianity' ideology that prevails in Catholic and Protestant churches today.[/QUOTE] Help me out, Stuka. "weak-souled" means what? being strong enough not to fall into hate? "self-hating" means what? Jesus said LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF. Some of us understand He did not mean for that to be dependant on the color of your neighbor. "Multicultural" is a hot-button word. As Christians, Christianity should be the main part of our culture. As Americans we should have a common language so we can communicate. But beyond that, what? Are you offended by the idea of, say, a perfectly legal, working, taxpaying Filipino immigrant family, worshipping in the pew next to, say, a tenth-generation American family of Anglo-Saxon heritage? "feminized" has me completely baffled. Aside from the RCC's Virgin Mary cult, how has Christianity been "feminized"?
2005-06-15 13:41 | User Profile
Obadiah,
You appear viscerally anti-Catholic, but here's hoping you'll take some time to think about this passage from the Catholic Catechism:
56 After the unity of the human race was shattered by sin God at once sought to save humanity part by part. The covenant with Noah after the flood gives expression to the principle of the divine economy toward the "nations", in other words, towards men grouped "in their lands, each with [its] own language, by their families, in their nations".9 57 This state of division into many nations is at once cosmic, social and religious. It is intended to limit the pride of fallen humanity10 united only in its perverse ambition to forge its own unity as at Babel.11 But, because of sin, both polytheism and the idolatry of the nation and of its rulers constantly threaten this provisional economy with the perversion of paganism. The modern multi-cultural and centralized state is a great evil, and a form of idolatry. That's why God scattered the nations at Babel. In the same way that it is said what God has joined let no man put asunder, one may also say that what God has sundered, let no man join together.
Leaving aside the theological issues, the objection to the Filipino immigrating to the US is that the Filipino is likely to be a net tax consumer, with no tradition of constitutional republican thought.
Immigration is just the welfare-warfare state importing more constituents. Feminized, handwringing Christians who aid and abet these trespassers are selling their souls to the cultural Marxists.
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2005-06-15 22:54 | User Profile
The tower of babel narrative says God confounded their languages. Then nations began to form, etc., etc. The Bible also says "Out of One Blood" God made all nations. It is a gross misinterpretation of Scripture to believe that God wants people to base their entire lives on seperation by race. There is no theological problem with two Christians from two different countries worshipping the One True God together.
2005-06-16 06:59 | User Profile
[QUOTE=SteamshipTime]Obadiah,
You appear viscerally anti-Catholic, but here's hoping you'll take some time to think about this passage from the Catholic Catechism:
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ST, I was under the impression you were an Anglican. Are you Catholic?
2005-06-16 14:20 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]The tower of babel narrative says God confounded their languages. Then nations began to form, etc., etc. The Bible also says "Out of One Blood" God made all nations. It is a gross misinterpretation of Scripture to believe that God wants people to base their entire lives on seperation by race. So, God specifically separated the nations, but it is 'a gross misinterpretation of Scripture to believe that God wants people to base their entire lives on separation by race'?
[quote=obadiah]There is no theological problem with two Christians from two different countries worshipping the One True God together.[/QUOTE] Of course there isn't. But there is also no theological imperative to destroy one of the nations God created by importing as many millions of foreigners as possible into it.
2005-06-16 14:54 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]There is no theological problem with two Christians from two different countries worshipping the One True God together.[/QUOTE] Of course not, but your statement is out of context. We are talking about the government's deliberate importation of welfare-warfare state constituents. This construction of the centralized, multi-cultural state is (1) idolatrous, and (2) bad policy.
2005-06-16 14:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=2600]ST, I was under the impression you were an Anglican. Are you Catholic?[/QUOTE] I'm Anglican (Episcopal Church USA), but our catechism has been watered down to a schoolchild's Q & A.
2005-06-16 16:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gabrielle]I dislike Zionist; they would think nothing of sacrificing ââ¬Ësmallââ¬â¢ Jews for their ââ¬Ëcauseââ¬â¢.
Prove to me that Judaism is the mother of Christianity. :oh:
Are you a Jew, Ron?[/QUOTE]
No, I am not a Jew. However, to challenge the notion Judaism is not the mother of Christianity seems absurd on its face.
2005-06-28 18:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JakeBlues]because it is so unconvincing. When I listen to these people talk, all I hear is how great the white race is and how sub-par everyone else is. And they "prove it" by coming up with a cavalcade of insulting names to call their opponents, and boasting of a history that is based on stealing land, murdering, violating, and enslaving other races, and that's supposed to make them "superior". Pathetic.[/QUOTE] Yes, you are right... the African Space Agency is far superior to NASA.
2005-06-30 12:56 | User Profile
WN,
Please check your other membership p.m. here. If there is a problem, p.m. me.