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Thread ID: 18554 | Posts: 34 | Started: 2005-06-06
2005-06-06 23:19 | User Profile
Why do so many of you call Black people "Negro"? what is the reason, if any, in using this outdated term instead of simply "Black"?
2005-06-07 00:10 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JakeBlues]Why do so many of you call Black people "Negro"? what is the reason, if any, in using this outdated term instead of simply "Black"?[/QUOTE]
I don't see anything with the word "Negro"; it is just the Spanish word for black. Since blacks have been overtaken by hispanics as the largest minority, then they better get used to it.
2005-06-07 00:18 | User Profile
I just want a straight answer as to why so many whites use that term. Blacks don't call themselves that.
2005-06-07 01:17 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JakeBlues]I just want a straight answer as to why so many whites use that term. Blacks don't call themselves that.[/QUOTE]
The reason is because it was the most widely accepted terminology for hundreds of years, since their tribes were first discovered by the Europeans. Negro is primarily sub-Saharan, having wolly hair, thick lips, a wide nose, and very dark skin. These are their physical traits among others. We truly mean no disrespect when calling them "Negroes". If we are to discuss things without a racial terminology, that is fine, but in general, those here object to the word "Black", because it is only a nom-de-jour ( name of the day ) which was a creation of the Jew-inspired and financed 1960's in America. The "Blacks" only became said name about 40-50 years ago, and thenceforth we are now known as "Whites". It is simply a childish and unscientific delineation. To call them "Black" also suggests that there is no difference other than skin colour, and we all know that is not true. It would have been easier to call them by their tribal names, but because they had no written language, and never had a basis of marriage, and frequently were sold from tribe to tribe amongst their own, they did not actually have an identity that could be named, only observed.
2005-06-07 02:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JakeBlues] Blacks don't call themselves that.[/QUOTE]
Who can keep up with what Blacks call themselves? I think the current name is niggah, isn't it? :)
2005-06-07 02:59 | User Profile
So sorry. Would you prefer we use "kaffir" instead? :)
[QUOTE=JakeBlues]Why do so many of you call Black people "Negro"? what is the reason, if any, in using this outdated term instead of simply "Black"?[/QUOTE]
2005-06-08 21:20 | User Profile
Stuka, I was not aware that you were a muslim. "kaffir" is an arabic term for a non-muslim. When the 'rabs invaded Africa, they applied it to the locals who were not muslim. It eventually became a racialized term as most of the non-muslims in Africa, were African, and the ayrabs were all muslims. Exelsis, you're telling me "negro" is used because it was the first term whites came up with when they "discovered" us. white people sure did discover alot. maybe I'll go to a random white town, say I discovered it, and call the inhabitants the first word that comes to mind. sounds fair, doesn't it?
2005-06-08 22:05 | User Profile
IMO - Negro is a term that gets written alot, but rarely spoken any more. I grew up referring to them as coloreds or darkies. My grandparents more often simply referred to them as 'colored folks'. I can still remember my great grandpa referring to them as 'nigras' and he wasnt trying to be funny, it was just the accepted word. Then again both my grandparents and great grandparents grew up and became old BEFORE the civil rights era.
Black, negro, nigra, colored, darkie...take your pick
2005-06-08 22:20 | User Profile
I'll accept any of them but never the so called "Afrian American"
I remember the first time I heard that word and I asked the guy "Really now, what part of Africa are you from?" the guy gave a blank stare like if I was from Mars.
I then asked him what part of Africa does the head hunters came from and he told me "the Congo" hahahaahahahha, headhunters are from the Amazon a tribe called "the Jibaros".
2005-06-09 01:38 | User Profile
Nigger was a good enough word from my 83 year old Southern Baptist grandmother, so its good enough for me... :afro:
2005-06-09 16:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE=whistler's mutha]Exelsis, you're telling me "negro" is used because it was the first term whites came up with when they "discovered" us. white people sure did discover alot. maybe I'll go to a random white town, say I discovered it, and call the inhabitants the first word that comes to mind. sounds fair, doesn't it?[/QUOTE] I think it's perfectly legitimate for the speakers of a language to decide on what things (and groups) are called in their own language. I don't tell the Hutus what the Hutu world for 'white man' should be, so I don't see why a Negro, or an Indian, or an Oriental should have veto power over what the English word for his respective ethnicity should be.
A great example of how ridiculous this whole thing has gotten occured during the Sydney Olympics. A black African athlete medaled in some some event (swimming, I think) and the American announcer shrieked, 'She is the first African-American, from any country, to medal in this event!' What a thoroughly-indoctrinated idiot.
2005-06-11 16:36 | User Profile
[QUOTE=whistler's mutha]Stuka, I was not aware that you were a muslim. "kaffir" is an arabic term for a non-muslim. When the 'rabs invaded Africa, they applied it to the locals who were not muslim. It eventually became a racialized term as most of the non-muslims in Africa, were African, and the ayrabs were all muslims. Exelsis, you're telling me "negro" is used because it was the first term whites came up with when they "discovered" us. white people sure did discover alot. maybe I'll go to a random white town, say I discovered it, and call the inhabitants the first word that comes to mind. sounds fair, doesn't it?[/QUOTE] If you can get the standard language people converse in to be Ebonics, then whatever term you coin for White, European, Caucasian, Non Black, will probably become common parlance.
Best of luck on your efforts. If you fail, no biggee, changing the way people speak and express themselves is hard.
Try teaching ESL someday.
2005-06-11 18:00 | User Profile
Negro was in general use as a term for the Black race untill fairly recent times. It came to be regarded as dated and was supplanted by Black and then African-American. Colored was in general use also by the gentile in my youth, but one seldom hears the word anymore. It was considered inoffensive, by most untill newer generations of Darkies put it in the list of forbidden words. Blacks have always had a hard time accepting an adjective for their race. Most seem to have accepted African-American as legitimate usuage, but one gets the impression that they would prefer to be addressed as "most noble issue of the great African continent", or some similer overblown word or phrase. Much of their literature reflects such yearning.
2005-06-11 18:19 | User Profile
If a name for an ethnic/race group becomes a slur, it only should tell one about that group.
The world zhid/zyd, for example, is still in use in many Slavic countries, but zhids hate to be called that.
2005-06-12 06:00 | User Profile
My grand parents and great grand parents called them colored or niggers (negros). This wasn't meant to be derogatory. It's just what they were called, no offense meant or taken. Funny thing about the whole "African-American" name, there was a young South African white man who had immigrated to the US with his family to become Americans. When the young man was getting ready for college he naturally filled out the forms with the African American race checked as his ethnicity. Talk about a predicament. The school invited him to check out the campus with his family, and low and behold when he shows up being all shiny white the school was upset. They told him that he would not be accepted. When he asked why they said he'd lied about his ethnicity on his form.
2005-06-12 08:38 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JakeBlues]I just want a straight answer as to why so many whites use that term. Blacks don't call themselves that.[/QUOTE]
Two points.
First, blacks do so call themselves Negro, as in "integrationist Negro."
Second, blacks call themselves "nigger" all the time, as in "say, nigger, what up?" I hear it all the time, and in all sorts of contexts.
If the rule is that we should use terms that the named group uses in reference themselves (as you clearly imply), then both "Negro" and "nigger" are very much inbounds.
2005-06-12 11:08 | User Profile
negroid
adj : characteristic of people traditionally classified as the Negro race; "negroid features" n : a person with dark skin who comes from Africa (or whose ancestors came from Africa) [syn: [url="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=black"][color=#0033ff]Black[/color][/url], [url="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=black%20person"][color=#0033ff]Black person[/color][/url], [url="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=blackamoor"][color=#0033ff]blackamoor[/color][/url], [url="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=negro"][color=#0033ff]Negro[/color][/url], [url="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=negroid"][color=#000099]Negroid[/color][/url]]
n. A member of this racial classification. Not in scientific use.
United Negro College Fund: [url="http://www.uncf.org/"]http://www.uncf.org/[/url] "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." :thumbsup:
2005-06-14 19:11 | User Profile
It's a measure of a race's immaturity and lack of intelligence when they get wrapped up in such unimportant nonsense, at the same time as their entire sub-culture is unraveling due to real problems like drug abuse, random violence, one parent homes, failing grades in school and a lack of achievement.
2005-06-14 21:01 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JakeBlues]Why do so many of you call Black people "Negro"? what is the reason, if any, in using this outdated term instead of simply "Black"?[/QUOTE]
I like to be old fashioned. Besides, if we all start using the term "black" then blacks (oops) would start to complain that the use of the term "black" is bigoted.
2005-06-16 00:03 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JakeBlues]Why do so many of you[/QUOTE]
Excuse me, sir, but I am deeply offended by your unqualified use of the second person plural "you" when addressing a chat board populated almost totally by whites. It is as if you had said, "you whites," which connotes finger-pointing and general derision.
As they did with Ross Perot, I am demanding an apology for this "you people" episode.
Let the healing begin.
2005-06-16 02:30 | User Profile
Hugh, you mean-spirited bigot you. I sentence you to 10 days community service assisting your local sensitivity training sessions. If you dont have any local sensitivity training, then a $100 donation to the SPLC will do nicely. You will comply wont you ?
2005-06-16 16:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=JakeBlues]Why do so many of you call Black people "Negro"? what is the reason, if any, in using this outdated term instead of simply "Black"?[/QUOTE] Eventhough outdated, I always considered the term "Negro" to be more respectful. However, in today's society, "Black" is also considered outdated, and the term "African-American" is in vogue. It's hard to keep up, as every generation of Negro seems to have their own terminology.
2005-06-18 23:49 | User Profile
Actually, I prefer not to use the words colored, Negro or African-American. Colored and Negro both sound too fifties; A-A contains too many syllables and really isn't accurate as many Blacks don't originate from Africa. So I use the monosyllabic word "Black" because it requires little effort and says it all. :smartass:
2005-06-18 23:56 | User Profile
[QUOTE=whistler's mutha]"Kaffir" is an arabic term for a non-muslim. When the Arabs invaded Africa, they applied it to the locals who were not muslim. [/QUOTE] As is well known, "kaffir" is a term of derision used by whites in South Africa to refer to negroes. I use it out of a feeling of solidarity with my besieged kin in southern Africa. :smile:
2005-06-19 04:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=skemper]I don't see anything with the word "Negro"; it is just the Spanish word for black. Since blacks have been overtaken by hispanics as the largest minority, then they better get used to it.[/QUOTE]
"Negro" is also both a more truthful and an all-encompassing term than "Black" as it includes mullatoes; quadroons; octoroons, zamboes and spooks...the latter term suggests a pure-blooded Congoid (and most North American, non-island dark-skinned people are of mixed race).
2005-06-19 04:34 | User Profile
And in Russia, anything even as dusky as a "Caucasian" (mountain niggers of the Caucasus mountains) is called "black" (or "black ass"). A perfectly encompassing term too :biggrin:
2005-06-19 04:55 | User Profile
cracker honky ofay paleface cave-beast cauKKKasoid albinoid. Just had get that outta my system, now we're even. Are these terms all equally fine and ducky, or do White people prefer to be called WHITE????????
2005-06-19 05:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]cracker honky ofay paleface cave-beast cauKKKasoid albinoid. Just had get that outta my system, now we're even.[/QUOTE] Damn straight I'm a cracker.. a WHIP cracker that is! SNAP :lol: [QUOTE=obadiah]Are these terms all equally fine and ducky, or do White people prefer to be called WHITE????????[/QUOTE] I usually refer to Black people as Black, and White people as White in casual conversation. If it's more formal or I am around people who are hung up about these things then I use "African American", "Aboriginal Australian", "American of European descent", "European Australian" etc etc.
I don't ordinarily use "Negro" or "Caucasian" because they are anthropological classifications and sound too scientific for everyday use, but I don't see what's so offensive about them. Do you mind being called a Negro? Speaking for myself I've never been offended by "Caucasian".
The most offensive thing I've ever been called to my face is "cumskin" (by a bunch of Turk/Arab wogs I used to work with) but any darkskinned person who uses that one is just setting themselves up for being called a "shitskin".
2005-06-19 05:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]cracker honky ofay paleface cave-beast cauKKKasoid albinoid. Just had get that outta my system, now we're even. Are these terms all equally fine and ducky, or do White people prefer to be called WHITE????????[/QUOTE]
You forgot "casper"... :afro:
But my point was that even a slight visible trace of Black blood makes a Negro...
2005-06-19 08:22 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]cracker honky ofay paleface cave-beast cauKKKasoid albinoid. Just had get that outta my system, now we're even. Are these terms all equally fine and ducky, or do White people prefer to be called WHITE????????[/QUOTE]
All those terms are just fine with me, my Negro friend.
2005-06-19 09:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]cracker honky ofay paleface cave-beast cauKKKasoid albinoid. Just had get that outta my system, now we're even. Are these terms all equally fine and ducky, or do White people prefer to be called WHITE????????[/QUOTE]
My personal favorite is white devil.
You seem to take offense at the answers on this thread, so one wonders why you asked the question in the first place, troll?
2005-06-19 09:32 | User Profile
[COLOR=RoyalBlue][B][I] - "But my point was that even a slight visible trace of Black blood makes a Negro..."[/I][/B][/COLOR]
I do not [B]entirely[/B] agree with this "one drop" principle - Aleksandr Pushkin was 1/8 Ethiopian, after all. What would you consider as a "visible trace"?
Petr
2005-06-21 14:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=obadiah]cracker honky ofay paleface cave-beast cauKKKasoid albinoid. Just had get that outta my system, now we're even. Are these terms all equally fine and ducky, or do White people prefer to be called WHITE????????[/QUOTE]
LOL! Hey... what about Swine?
I don't care what they call me. There's no power in it. Nigger... now, there's a powerful word. It's a great weapon if one chooses to use it that way, and the irony is that it's empowered by blackafricanamericannegrocolored people's fear/resentment of it.
Why don't blackafricanamericannegrocolored people have any funny names for us? Like:
Spear chucker, liver lip, yard ape, bullet head, 'monbak, moteasuh, or weebees?
2005-06-21 15:19 | User Profile
OBADIAH? You should learn that people are nothing more than cartoons and you should be offended only if you let them offend you.
"The world is my playground and people are my toys"......Ponce