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2005-06-03 13:39 | User Profile
[B]AIDS in Africa: Too Little Too Late[/B]
By Rahab S Hawa
Latest statistics confirm that South Africa remains the epicentre of the global AIDS epidemic with 4.7 million people infected - more than anywhere else on earth.
Citing South African officials, the International Herald Tribune on 22 March reported that half a million more South Africans were infected with HIV in the year 2000.
ââ¬ËTwenty-five percent of adults ââ¬â one of every nine South Africans are now living with HIV,ââ¬â¢ it said.
South Africaââ¬â¢s situation reflects the AIDS pandemic that threatens to destroy the entire African continent.
According to UNAIDS latest report, AIDS Epidemic Update: December 2000, in the year 2000 alone, 3.8 million adults and children were infected, bringing the total number of people living in sub-Saharan Africa (SSA) with HIV/AIDS to 25.3 million.
AIDS deaths in 2000 totalled 2.4 million, as compared with 2.2 million in 1999.
ââ¬ËAfrica has 70% of the adults and 80% of the children living with HIV in the world, and has buried three quarters of the more than 20 million people worldwide who have died of AIDS,ââ¬â¢ says the Update.
Women form the majority of AIDS cases, with most of the new infections occurring in young women between 15-25 years of age.
At the end of 1999, UNAIDS estimated that some 36 percent of the adult population in Botswana, 25 percent in Zimbabwe and Swaziland and 20 percent in Zambia were infected.
Estimates from the US Census Bureau project that AIDS deaths and the loss of future population from deaths of women of childbearing age mean that by 2010, SSA will have 71 million fewer people.
Life expectancy will fall from about 60 years to around 30 years for the worst affected countries, and the rate of population growth will stagnate or turn negative for several countries in the region.
Life-expectancy projections, presented at the 13th International AIDS Conference in Durban, South Africa last July, show that by 2010, it will fall to 29 in Bostwana; 30 in Swaziland; 33 in Namibia and Zimbabwe and 36 in South Africa, Malawi and Rwanda. Without AIDS, it would have been around 70 years of age in many of these countries.
The Durban Conference was informed that by 2003, the populations of Botswana, South Africa and Zimbabwe will begin to fall because of AIDS deaths and dropping fertility rates resulting from the pandemic.
These shocking figures reveal an impending catastrophe on a scale that is unparalleled and far exceeds the bubonic plague in Europe, which killed some 30 million people in the 14th century: it took Europe more than a century to recover its population to levels that existed before the plague.
They show that AIDS is now out of control, spreading fast and furiously, threatening the continent with extinction.
According to the Director of the White House Office of National AIDS Policy, ââ¬ËWe are at the beginning of a pandemic, not the middle, not the end. We certainly know before weââ¬â¢re able to stop this pandemic, weââ¬â¢ll have hundreds of millions of people infected and dead and thatââ¬â¢s the best case scenario.ââ¬â¢
How does one explain this ongoing genocide in Africa? Why was it allowed to happen in the first place? Why was nothing done despite the warnings for more than 15 years?
Recent reports reveal that the US government, including the US Centres for Disease Control (CDC), and the World Health Organisation (WHO) were aware of the threat of the global AIDS epidemic but were in a state of denial.
According to The Washington Post dated 5 July 2000, two CIA officers produced a report in 1991 entitled ââ¬ËThe Global AIDS Disasterââ¬â¢, which projected 45 million cases of AIDS infections by 2000 ââ¬â which are fatal, and the great majority of it being in Africa.
This report, known as Interagency Intelligence Memorandum 91-10005, which ââ¬Ëforetold one of the deadliest calamities in human experienceââ¬â¢, was received with mere ââ¬Ëindifferenceââ¬â¢, according to the principal author.
In the course of undertaking the study, the two officers, Katherine Hall and Kenneth Brown, told the Washington Post that they had encountered numerous obstacles. Speaking of one military colleague at the National Intelligence Council, Brown said: ââ¬ÅHis penetrating analysis was ââ¬ËOh, it will be good, because Africa is overpopulated anywayââ¬â¢ ââ¬Â.
More than anything else, there was no serious international effort to tackle the AIDS problem. In fact, there appeared to be a deliberate policy of not doing anything.
According to the Washington Post expose, ââ¬Ëfor a decade, the world knew the dimension of the coming catastrophe and the means available to slow it individually and collectively, most of those with power decided not to actââ¬â¢.
According to the Director of AIDS Prevention at the CDC, who said: ââ¬ËWe saw it coming and we didnââ¬â¢t act as quickly as we could have. Iââ¬â¢m not sure what that says about how seriously we took it, how seriously we took lives in Africaââ¬â¢. There was no urgency to act.
In fact, the rich countries had lost interest in AIDS, once AIDS ââ¬Ëwas no longer a threat to the Westââ¬â¢, said Michael Merson, who would later head the WHO's AIDS programme. ââ¬ËIn the 90s, it became clear we were not going to have a major heterosexual epidemic in the Statesââ¬â¢, he explained.
Sources made available to the Washington Post revealed that the director of population, health and nutrition in USAID acknowledged that there was ââ¬Ëthe lack of political will and resources to combat the spread of HIVââ¬â¢ and ââ¬Ëdecisions made by policy-makers and program administrators ââ¬Â¦ were simply the product of a different world view and set of prioritiesââ¬â¢.
This state of affairs was found to plague the WHO as well. According to the Washington Post report, the WHOââ¬â¢s global aids programme (UNAIDS) did not receive the support of the new Director-General Hiroshi Nakajima, who succeeded Halfdan Mahler when he retired in 1988. Nakajima was accused by the Director of UNAIDS, Jonathan Mann, of obstruction that ââ¬Ëparalyzed our efforts completelyââ¬â¢. With the resignation of Mann, the WHOââ¬â¢s AIDS programme fell apart.
The AIDS epidemic was not in the list of Nakajimaââ¬â¢s priorities. By virtually ignoring the seriousness of the disease, the WHO had undermined any effective global strategy to stop the spread of the AIDS pandemic.
Earlier in 1990 and 1991, the WHO had projected that tens of millions of people will die of the disease by 2000.
International agencies, like the World Bank, even found a ââ¬Ësilver liningââ¬â¢ in the AIDS disaster sweeping Africa. In an internal World Bank study in June 1992, it was stated that ââ¬Ëif the only effect of the AIDS epidemic were to reduce the population growth rate, it would increase the growth rate of per capita income in any plausible economic modelââ¬â¢. Speaking to the Washington Post, South African economist Alan Whiteside said, ââ¬ËOnly the World Bank would put that on paperââ¬â¢.
This shameful catalogue of utter indifference, willful neglect, and denial of the looming calamity continues.
James Sherry, director of programme development for UNAIDS, says it plainly: ââ¬ËI canââ¬â¢t think of the coming of any event which was more heralded to less effect. It still hasnââ¬â¢t changed. In terms of real deployment of resources, it hasnââ¬â¢t changed. The bottomline is, the people who are dying from AIDS donââ¬â¢t matter in this world.ââ¬â¢
More shocking is the revelation that the AIDS pandemic was a deliberate policy to depopulate Africa and elsewhere.
According to Jeffrey Steinberg, writing in the Executive Intelligence Review of 11 August last year, the battle against AIDS is a fight against the powerful international economic and political forces, which are bent on reducing the population of Africa.
Citing a study commissioned by Kissinger in 1974, who was then the US National Security Advisor and Secretary of State, the National Security Study Memorandum 200 (NSSM-200), which was declassified in late 1989, stated that: ââ¬ËThe political consequences of current population factors in the LDCs (less developed countries) are damaging to the internal stability and international relations of countries in whose advancement the US is interested, thus creating political or even national security problems for the USââ¬â¢.
The study went on to say that ââ¬Ëworld population growth is widely recognized within the government as a current danger of the highest magnitude calling for urgent measuresââ¬â¢.
Further to this, his article quotes Peter Schwartz, a former executive of the Royal Dutch Shell group and founder of the Global Business Network, who had done a study in 1986 on (AIDS) for AT&T, Royal Dutch Shell and Volvo. According to Schwartz: ââ¬ËWe concluded that people who have AIDS in Africa should not be kept alive; they spread the disease. It is better they should die quicklyââ¬â¢.
Meanwhile, AIDS in Africa rages on, leading Africa on the road to catastrophe.
2005-06-03 15:50 | User Profile
According to the Washington Post expose, ââ¬Ëfor a decade, the world knew the dimension of the coming catastrophe and the means available to slow it individually and collectively, most of those with power decided not to actââ¬â¢.
i.e. AIDS may have started in Africa, it may find a fertile environment to increase exponentially in Africa, but it is still the White man's fault for not stopping it.
2005-06-03 16:07 | User Profile
[QUOTE]According to Jeffrey Steinberg, writing in the Executive Intelligence Review of 11 August last year, the battle against AIDS is a fight against the powerful international economic and political forces, which are bent on reducing the population of Africa.[/QUOTE]
"Steinberg" Voy, Vee :censored:
The satanic Jews have convinced the blacks that AIDS is some kind of elaborate euro-centric plot to get rid of them.
The Jews are very fond of routinely making such disgusting completely unproven accusations against us.
Undoubtedly this creates doubt and enforces the commonly held belief that we are indeed the shadowy quasi mythical "white oppressor" of old. Whilst simultaneously detracting attention from their own nefarious activity's.
The up shot of all of this is as the Jew points out is that AIDS isn't going to kill strong willed and displined, God fearing 'abstaining' European Christians.
If the African weren't so promiscuous and either used condoms or abstained from having extramarital affairs as they should then they wouldn't have a problem. Proof if it where ever needed that stupid blacks are completely governed by animalistic urges and not reason.
Gregz
"When there is no enemy within, the enemies outside cannot hurt you." - African proverb
2005-06-03 16:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gregz][B] Meanwhile, AIDS in Africa rages on, leading Africa on the road to catastrophe.[/QUOTE] It's niggers who are an evolutionary catastrophe and a joke of nature. Monkey boys for those doubting the theory of evolution :D
2005-06-03 16:19 | User Profile
The whole African AIDS pandemic is further complicated by the fact of exaggerating the data for increased funding and the fact that the AIDS strain acts differently in Africa than it does everywhere else in that more women have it than men and that it is primarily heterosexually transferred.
2005-06-03 16:36 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Bardamu]The whole African AIDS pandemic is further complicated by the fact of exaggerating the data for increased funding and the fact that the AIDS strain acts differently in Africa than it does everywhere else in that more women have it than men and that it is primarily heterosexually transferred.[/QUOTE] Which leads us to the question, is there an "AIDS pandemic" in Africa, or merely a lot of people with suppressed immune systems caused by substance abuse and tropical illnesses resulting from poor hygiene?
2005-06-03 16:49 | User Profile
"AIDS" is probably the word for death-by-disease-in-Africa-that-garners foreign-aid. No wonder it increases exponentially.
2005-06-03 16:50 | User Profile
[QUOTE=SteamshipTime]Which leads us to the question, is there an "AIDS pandemic" in Africa, or merely a lot of people with suppressed immune systems caused by substance abuse and tropical illnesses resulting from poor hygiene?[/QUOTE]
"AIDS" is probably the African word for death-by-disease-that-garners-foreign-aid. No wonder it increases exponentially.
2005-06-03 17:48 | User Profile
Gregz: Thanks for the opportunity for a few laughs at a nitwit: the author. [QUOTE=Gregz]AIDS in Africa: Too Little Too Late By Rahab S Hawa ==snip== South Africaââ¬â¢s situation reflects the AIDS pandemic that threatens to destroy the entire African continent. There is a leap in logic, or maybe hyperbole. A continent can get along fine without people in it, (Antarctica, for example). Wanna bet elephants and rhinos are rooting for an AIDS win? :glare: Wonder if they have betting action in Vegas.
The total number of people living in sub-Saharan Africa (SSA) with HIV/AIDS to 25.3 million. AIDS deaths in 2000 totalled 2.4 million, as compared with 2.2 million in 1999. My calculator says roughly 10% annual mortality rate. The guy calls it genocide? Right, send an HIV virus to the Hague. Guessing the medical concern is exponential retransmission rate? [QUOTE] Women form the majority of AIDS cases, with most of the new infections occurring in young women between 15-25 years of age. Life expectancy will fall from about 60 years to around 30 years for the worst affected countries, [u]and the rate of population growth will stagnate or turn negative for several countries in the region.[/u] [/QUOTE]Like the past 30 years in Western Europe, but due to different reasons such as birth control. [QUOTE]These shocking figures reveal an impending catastrophe on a scale that is unparalleled and far exceeds the bubonic plague in Europe, which killed some 30 million people in the 14th century: it took Europe more than a century to recover its population to levels that existed before the plague[/QUOTE] . The continual war and famine in the 14th century did not help, for sure. [QUOTE] They show that AIDS is now out of control, spreading fast and furiously, threatening the continent with extinction. [/QUOTE]Here we go again, a land mass doomed to extinction. Send the rhinos to the Hague for vicarious guilt: being happy about loss of humans in Africa.:glare: [QUOTE] ââ¬ËWe are at the beginning of a pandemic, not the middle, not the end. We certainly know before weââ¬â¢re able to stop this pandemic, weââ¬â¢ll have hundreds of millions of people infected and dead and thatââ¬â¢s the best case scenario.ââ¬â¢ How does one explain this ongoing genocide in Africa? Why was it allowed to happen in the first place? Why was nothing done despite the warnings for more than 15 years? [/QUOTE]How does one misunderstand the difference between a pandemic and genocide? There is the concept of agency in genocide. Back to the author's plague example . . . which he just forgot. [QUOTE]Two CIA officers produced a report in 1991 entitled ââ¬ËThe Global AIDS Disasterââ¬â¢, which projected 45 million cases of AIDS infections by 2000 ââ¬â which are fatal, and the great majority of it being in Africa. . . .was received with mere ââ¬Ëindifferenceââ¬â¢, according to the principal author.[/QUOTE]Not unlikely. Media have put the word out about AIDS, with vigor, for some 20 years now. Not sure how this matters, besides blaming CIA, a common hobby. [QUOTE] Speaking of one military colleague at the National Intelligence Council, Brown said: ââ¬ÅHis penetrating analysis was ââ¬ËOh, it will be good, because Africa is overpopulated anywayââ¬â¢ ââ¬Â. [/QUOTE]That lad probably wanted a job at the World Bank after he retired. [QUOTE] More than anything else, there was no serious international effort to tackle the AIDS problem. In fact, there appeared to be a deliberate policy of not doing anything. [/QUOTE]Other than UNAIDS being an international effort . . . funny, the UN made money on the above board oil for food 2% override, why didn't that money go from Boutros' and Koffi's bureaucrats to AIDS efforts? Oops! [QUOTE]According to the Washington Post expose, ââ¬Ëfor a decade, the world knew the dimension of the coming catastrophe and the means available to slow it individually and collectively, most of those with power decided not to actââ¬â¢.[/QUOTE]Last I checked, still no "Salk Vaccine" thing for AIDS, but a lot of expensive drugs for after you get it. OK, that's it, send all multinational drug companies to the Hague! :glare: (The shipping is going to be expensive . . . ) [QUOTE] In fact, the rich countries had lost interest in AIDS, once AIDS ââ¬Ëwas no longer a threat to the Westââ¬â¢, said Michael Merson, who would later head the WHO's AIDS programme. ââ¬ËIn the 90s, it became clear we were not going to have a major heterosexual epidemic in the Statesââ¬â¢, he explained. [/QUOTE]He says that like it is a bad thing. Where were the rich Arab princes, and why were they not donating gazillions of dinars and reals to AIDS issues? Send them to the Hague, tried for genocide, with all those rhinoceri and drug magnates. :glare: (Is the sarcasm thick enough yet?) Oh, and how about the Baron Rothschild, where is his donation? crickets chirp [QUOTE] Sources made available to the Washington Post revealed that the director of population, health and nutrition in USAID acknowledged that there was ââ¬Ëthe lack of political will and resources to combat the spread of HIVââ¬â¢ and ââ¬Ëdecisions made by policy-makers and program administrators ââ¬Â¦ were simply the product of a different world view and set of prioritiesââ¬â¢. [/QUOTE]Yep, slick Willie did not give a crap. Could not hit it with a Tomahawk missile. [QUOTE]This state of affairs was found to plague the WHO as well. [/QUOTE]This is news? [QUOTE] According to the Washington Post report, the WHOââ¬â¢s global aids programme (UNAIDS) did not receive the support of the new Director-General Hiroshi Nakajima, who succeeded Halfdan Mahler when he retired in 1988. Nakajima was accused by the Director of UNAIDS, Jonathan Mann, of obstruction that ââ¬Ëparalyzed our efforts completelyââ¬â¢. With the resignation of Mann, the WHOââ¬â¢s AIDS programme fell apart. The AIDS epidemic was not in the list of Nakajimaââ¬â¢s priorities. By virtually ignoring the seriousness of the disease, the WHO had undermined any effective global strategy to stop the spread of the AIDS pandemic. [/QUOTE]Right. Nakajima, I assume Japanese, comes from a culture that holds self discipline as a virtue. Since he knows that AIDS [u]prevention[/u] is rooted in behavior choices . . . What am I not getting? [QUOTE] International agencies, like the World Bank, even found a ââ¬Ësilver liningââ¬â¢ in the AIDS disaster sweeping Africa. In an internal World Bank study in June 1992, it was stated that ââ¬Ëif the only effect of the AIDS epidemic were to reduce the population growth rate, it would increase the growth rate of per capita income in any plausible economic modelââ¬â¢. Speaking to the Washington Post, South African economist Alan Whiteside said, ââ¬ËOnly the World Bank would put that on paperââ¬â¢. [/QUOTE]Isn't that Wolfowitz guy heading over to World Bank? Curioser and curioser, said Alice. [QUOTE] The bottomline is, the people who are dying from AIDS donââ¬â¢t matter in this world.
Bottom line, is that if you change your behavior, you can cut down the odds for catching AIDS via sex. Blood transfusions, that's your own gamble.
More shocking is the revelation that the AIDS pandemic was a deliberate policy to depopulate Africa and elsewhere.
Huzzah, the real purpose of the article is revealed. It's a plot!!!!!
ââ¬ËThe political consequences of current population factors in the LDCs (less developed countries) are damaging to the internal stability and international relations of countries in whose advancement the US is interested, thus creating political or even national security problems for the USââ¬â¢. [/QUOTE]Standard Malthusian rhetoric. No plot yet. [QUOTE]The study went on to say that ââ¬Ëworld population growth is widely recognized within the government as a current danger of the highest magnitude calling for urgent measuresââ¬â¢.[/QUOTE]There was a celebrated liberal cause in the 1970's, the Zero Population Growth model of world stability. [QUOTE] Further to this, his article quotes Peter Schwartz, a former executive of the Royal Dutch Shell group and founder of the Global Business Network, who had done a study in 1986 on (AIDS) for AT&T, Royal Dutch Shell and Volvo. According to Schwartz: ââ¬ËWe concluded that people who have AIDS in Africa should not be kept alive; they spread the disease. It is better they should die quicklyââ¬â¢.[/QUOTE]No matter his opinion, interesting that he shared it (wonder how much land he lost in South Africa's Mandela Moments), they will die younger than those without AIDS.
The AIDS concern:
If it continues to spread in Africa, will it spread cataclysmically to the rest of the world?
If it can be controlled or mitigated by behavioral means, how do you sell that message credibly?
Oh dear, was I using reason? Off to the Hague I go, obviously, as an unsympathetic monogamus person. :blink: Crap. I wanted to go to the mountains this summer.
2005-06-03 18:51 | User Profile
Hi Angeleyes
The AIDS problem is all to real and 45-50% of surveyed Southern Africans are HIV positive.
Since no one has any confidence in the logistical ability's of Africa states. The West should deploy it's Armies to Africa under a mandate to distributed anti-retro-viral drugs.
It is not acceptable for us to simply allow this problem to get completely out of hand. Africans immagrates are already swarming in the Europe like ants. Europeans like myself worry about what the combined effect of AIDS and global warming might be on Europe's security. Europe really can't hope to with a cope with any further mass northward movement of population. The Europeans social systems where developed to meet the needs of Europe and not carry half the world.
To digress, apparently the climate change issue is far more serious than climatologist's once thought. The temperature of Greenland ice sheet has risen by 6 degrees Centigrade since records began and is showing signs that it is starting to melt. Yet the US is planing double it's carbon emissions and to build 500 coal powered power stations in order to meet it's future energy needs and China and India are behaving little better.
You can't the only people who can change the Africans promiscuous behavior is the Africans.
Still it's high time all of our own governments launched another large public awareness campaign on this issue.
Gregz
"No civilization other than that which is Christian, is worth seeking or possessing." - Otto von Bismarck
2005-06-03 19:16 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gregz]
Since no one has any confidence in the logistical ability's of Africa states. The West should deploy it's Armies to Africa under a mandate to distributed anti-retro-viral drugs.
[/QUOTE]
Don't AIDS drugs actually prolong and increase the spread of HIV by keeping those infected around longer?
Rather than deploy Western troops to Africa to save Africans from themselves, why don't Western countries deploy there troops within their own countries to throw the Congoid invaders back out?
2005-06-03 19:24 | User Profile
Sometime ago Bush promised one billion bucks to Africa in order to combat AID but instead he is spending 30 billions per in order to kill Iraqis civilians.
I guess that he feels that bullets can kill faster than AID.
2005-06-03 20:21 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ponce]Sometime ago Bush promised one billion bucks to Africa in order to combat AID but instead he is spending 30 billions per in order to kill Iraqis civilians.
I guess that he feels that bullets can kill faster than AID.[/QUOTE] Good point, and I don't recall there being an AIDS epidemic in Iraq. Did I miss a news story? :clown:
2005-06-03 20:32 | User Profile
For Whites that are looking for a future homeland perhaps this is it after the present occupants get through exterminating themselves.
2005-06-03 20:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gregz]Hi Angeleyes The AIDS problem is all to real and 45-50% of surveyed Southern Africans are HIV positive.
Since no one has any confidence in the logistical ability's of Africa states. The West should deploy it's Armies to Africa under a mandate to distributed anti-retro-viral drugs. Hmmm, guys with guns force innoculating villagers? Can you say IED? Sniper? Someone could spin that humanitarian mission politically and start a brush war over "they are injecting you with infertility drugs." That's my guess, maybe exaggerated. Sounds like a great EU humanitarian mission, and good use of EU troops. When do they deploy? :unsure:
[QUOTE] 2. If it can be controlled or mitigated by behavioral means, how do you sell that message credibly?
You can't the only people who can change the Africans promiscuous behavior is the Africans.
Still it's high time all of our own governments launched another large public awareness campaign on this issue. [/QUOTE]I don't think you need to convince any "Westerner" about the dangers of AIDS. If you want to address AIDS, what is needed is a more effective grass roots information campaign in Southern Africa, one that resonates with every day people, and that meets the "it makes sense" test on a cultural level. That means tailored message themes and good practices for each population, each cultural subset of a given area. On that score, it is high time for "African leaders" to lead, rather than blame the West for their freedom to screw up.
2005-06-04 17:23 | User Profile
Angeleyes
"Sounds like a great EU humanitarian mission, and good use of EU troops. When do they deploy?"
The EU has recently doubled it's humanitarian aid to African and has thousands of troops already deployed on peace keeping duties in Africa. In my opinion these troops should be re-tasked and the EU's joint rapid reaction force of 150,000 troops committed to this region. A strong European deployment to Africa would also have the added benefit of securing this regions strategic resources.
China has been expanding it's interests in Africa:
"Last year, China stymied US efforts to levy sanctions on Sudan, which supplies nearly 5 percent of China's oil and where the US says genocide has occurred in its Darfur region. And as Zimbabwe becomes more isolated from the West, China has sent crates of T-shirts for ruling-party supporters who will vote in Thursday's parliamentary elections."
In addition, China or its businesses have reportedly:
ââ¬Â¢ provided a radio-jamming device for a military base outside the capital, preventing independent stations from balancing state-controlled media during the election campaign;
ââ¬Â¢ begun to deliver 12 fighter jets and 100 trucks to Zimbabwe's Army amid a Western arms embargo; and
ââ¬Â¢ designed President Robert Mugabe's new 25-bedroom mansion, complete with helipad. The cobalt-blue tiles for its swooping roof, which echoes Beijing's Forbidden City, were a Chinese gift.
Source: csmonitor.com
"I don't think you need to convince any "Westerner" about the dangers of AIDS."
I disagree, a report released around a year ago by the British government disclosed that their had been a 500% increase in syphilis and many other forms of sexually transmitted diseases in the UK. The large public awareness campaigns of the 80's and early 90's on AIDS need to be repeated in order to drive the "safe sex" message home to younger people who are reaching sexual maturity.
2005-06-04 17:49 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Sertorius]For Whites that are looking for a future homeland perhaps this is it after the present occupants get through exterminating themselves.[/QUOTE] Can't wait! I've got my eye on a nice seaside villa in Umhlanga Rocks near Durban. :thumbsup:
2005-06-05 04:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gregz] (me)"I don't think you need to convince any "Westerner" about the dangers of AIDS."
(G)I disagree, a report released around a year ago by the British government disclosed that their had been a 500% increase in syphilis and many other forms of sexually transmitted diseases in the UK. The large public awareness campaigns of the 80's and early 90's on AIDS need to be repeated in order to drive the "safe sex" message home to younger people who are reaching sexual maturity.[/QUOTE] Fair enough, saying it a few more times, with feeling, won't hurt. AIDS and all them STD's can devestate one's life.
I observed my son's sex ed class last year. The guy giving it ended it with a great visual for the teenagers.
He got a girl to role play the prospective bride to be. He got down on his knees, playing the young suitor, and gave her a scripted proposal for marriage with all the flowery love poems and all that. After he got her to agree, role playing, he then said:
"Oh, and by the way, I have genital warts. Don't want to enter our marriage in a lie."
That was an attention getter. It led to his next bit about why bringing STD's into a marriage is an evil betrayal of the trust of your betrothed. It was an excellent presentation.
2005-06-05 12:40 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Gregz]2. If it can be controlled or mitigated by behavioral means, how do you sell that message credibly?
You can't the only people who can change the Africans promiscuous behavior is the Africans.
Still it's high time all of our own governments launched another large public awareness campaign on this issue.
Gregz
"No civilization other than that which is Christian, is worth seeking or possessing." - Otto von Bismarck[/QUOTE] I have a couple of pet theories on the negroidal AIDS issue.
First, I think that it's spread in Africa the way it's spread in the rest of the world: mass bungholing. Africans are both poor and highly sexed, and one cheap and effective way to [I]get it done [/I] while preventing pregnancy is to substitute anal for vaginal intercourse. That's an obvious point that just isn't discussed. There seems to be a knee-jerk reaction against even asking the question that pings my bullsh*t radar in a big way. Liberals get really livid if you even bring up this obvioius possibility. It's excluded by definition, you see.
And I'll bet it isn't just heterosexual bungholing, either. Blacks in general have fewer internal controls - they're all gas and no brakes - and it seems clear that in Africa boys will just be boys. And they'll be girls, too, at least when there's nothing else to do on a Saturday night in Oonga-boonga.
Second, the motives of all these AIDS experts are very suspect. They know that the only thing that can prevent AIDS from spreading is chastity - saving sex for marriage - and they do everything they can to prevent that message from going out. I accuse liberals of being the crypto-racist haters. They're the ones who really want to kill blacks, and they hide their murderous intent behind lofty nostrums of equality and solidarity. E.O. Wilson had a great thing on this in "On Human Nature." He talked about a missionary named Robinson who, under the guise of converting and helping the Tasmanian aboriginals, succeeded in completely wiping them out with his "kindness."
If Evolution can design an insect that looks exactly like a twig to avoid predators, it can design the human brain to hide its real motives in group selection from the individual's conscious mind. J'accuse! White liberals are on a mission to kill all blacks. Planned Parenthood and others have murdered tens of millions of black babies in the States. Blacks are vastly overrepresented among PP's clientele. They have an abortion mill in every black and brown area of the country. Accident? No way. They're out to end the African genotype - their founder Margaret Sanger at least had the honesty to admit this forthrightly.
Don't believe the hype that they're really only motivated by altruistic feelings of sympathy for the "poor."
And it's Planned Parenthood International, let us keep in mind. We're talking genocide on a worldwide scale. Just like Wilson's Calvinist minister, they say they're trying to help the natives, and the individuals involved may consciously even believe that, but Evolution has something else in mind altogether.
They're really in Africa to commit genocide. And with huge parts of the populations of many sub-Saharan African countries infected with HIV, I'm compelled to admit that it's working really well.
I have nothing to do with that. I'm on record. God made blacks, and He loves them. I have naught but contempt for anybody who says its good to kill off the black race, be that by abortion, sterilization, or by encouraging lethal STDs like AIDS through transparently homicidal pro-promiscuity policies.
I'm on the side of Life, in all its unruly diversity.
2005-06-05 18:30 | User Profile
Bungholing or not, if one is sexually active with mutliple partners while carrying any venereal disease, it is going to spread. As any of us know from personal experience, one of the hardest things to do is successfully change someone elses's behaviour, even harder their point of view.
Consider the massive information campaign in America, on the secular side, to convince people to use condoms if they are going to act licentiously. Is there any evidence that information other than the rising AIDS body count convinced anyone to change their habits? I haven't seen any.
Having quit smoking for about the nth time, (8 weeks so far) I know how hard habits are to break, even when I know what is good for me. :wallbash:
As to the complicity of the Libs in their misinformation campaigns, their finger pointing versus solving problems, aye.
2005-06-06 00:11 | User Profile
The only reason population control is needed is that the surplus of food made possible by the advances in the first world agriculture healthcare (and productivity) is combined with the third world fertility rate. It's just a deadly combination (and niglets will always be starving as long as they keep multiplying at this rate as no amount of aid wil be enough), so it's only fair to give the baboons of Africa some birth control (dying from starvation and diseases did serve pretty well as a natural population control mechanism).
I don't see any malice in propagandizing birth control to the savages, but just the same misguided desire to share "common values" with them. The best case scenario, of course, is letting the nature take its course.
2005-06-06 16:49 | User Profile
Hello Walter
"They're the ones who really want to kill blacks, and they hide their murderous intent behind lofty nostrums of equality and solidarity."
Sadly I have on occasion entertained similarly dark thoughts to you.
"altruistic feelings of sympathy for the "poor."
Most Liberals are very far from poor and their "I feel your pain" empathy act is sickeningly insincere. Liberals tend to be either completely unprincipled and out for themselves or are condescending, fanatics who's goal is to promote a populist secular, view.
They are intrested in one thing and one thing only, attaining power. Just who the hell they think they fool with their all things to all people act I don't know.
Gregz
"When there is no enemy within, the enemies outside cannot hurt you." - African proverb
2005-06-06 17:32 | User Profile
Madrussian
Over population is not the problem in Africa but rather societal mismanagement. The Africans are culturally either nomadic herders of subsistence farmers. Their social systems simply haven't developed to the point where by they are able to compete effectively in the modern world.
Of the two groups the Africans and Asians. The Africans pose considerable less of a threat to us. Under the basis that they do not settle in Europe. I see no fundamental reason why we should not actively assist in there development.
We must develop vaccines against African AIDS strains. It is in Europe's interests to contain the spread of AIDS in Africa. There are now millions of AIDS orphan's in Africa and the anti-retro-viral drugs are required to maintain regional social and economic cohesion.
Gregz
"When there is no enemy within, the enemies outside cannot hurt you." - African proverb
2005-06-06 19:06 | User Profile
you children will not give it a rest, will you? I find it quite plausible that AIDS was concocted to murder Africa, and no Jew told me that. Just look at history. First, when the non-bathing dirtbags of Europe came to these shores, and discovered that the Indians, having not had the experience of living in filth since the fall of the Homo Roman Empire, hadn't built up immunities, the ofay's next plan was to willfully infect them with the smallpox. And we know how AIDS came to the West.White sailors slept with Africans-read possibly RAPED Africans, I know my history-and then, being bisexual faggots, spread it among other gay caucKKKasod detritis in the US. Does all my racial language bother you all? maybe if you cut back on the anti-Black remarks, and MADRUSSIAN, if you just shut your stupid faggot ass, I wouldn't have to speak so strongly.
2005-06-06 19:10 | User Profile
By the way, Walter, why is 90% of the fags I see in the states caucKKKasoidal?
2005-06-06 19:13 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ked McFarlane]By the way, Walter, why is 90% of the fags I see in the states caucKKKasoidal?[/QUOTE] Probably because you frequent bathhouses in the white parts of town.
2005-06-06 19:20 | User Profile
hey, Quadroon, good to see you ditched the loser flag and the picture of that retarded cripple; too bad the brotherman didn't finish the job. Wallace is dead now, fortunately, and so's Strom Thurmond, after doing his part to add to our population-them southern cracKKKas love'em some brown sugar! as for my sexual orientation: all female, all original, no exceptions. So,there could be nothing betwen us, but you'll get over it.
2005-06-06 19:29 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ked McFarlane]hey, Quadroon, good to see you ditched the loser flag and the picture of that retarded cripple; too bad the brotherman didn't finish the job. Wallace is dead now, fortunately, and so's Strom Thurmond, after doing his part to add to our population-them southern cracKKKas love'em some brown sugar! as for my sexual orientation: all female, all original, no exceptions. So,there could be nothing betwen us, but you'll get over it.[/QUOTE] Ked, Congratulations on yet another worthless post. It seems like it would almost require some effort to post repeatedly without adding a single intelligent thing to any thread. You are not doing your case for Negro super-intelligence any favors with any of your posts, I can assure you. In fact, you aren't doing proper grammar or punctuation any favors either.
2005-06-06 19:54 | User Profile
So, Quadroon's my English teacher now. As far as my "super-intelligence" is concerned, I have never made such a claim. It's funny to watch the whites fly into a tizzy whenever they're reminded that they are not superior. They always wind up accusing us of supremacist notions.
2005-06-06 21:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ked McFarlane]So, Quadroon's my English teacher now. As far as my "super-intelligence" is concerned, I have never made such a claim. It's funny to watch the whites fly into a tizzy whenever they're reminded that they are not superior. They always wind up accusing us of supremacist notions.[/QUOTE]
hey what's up Mr. " who'sbobbarr? " .
I reckon it's you that's the quadroon, not Quantrill. > below taken from another thread in which you say as much <
Ked McFarlane OD Troll Purgatory
Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 37 Good old fashioned pseudo-science! I'm gonna throw out all my Cheikh Anta Diop, Lerone J. Bennett, Frederick Douglass, and even Mark Twain, reading matter, and watch Howard Stern tonight. Maybe then some of that Jew IQ can rub off on me,and save me from my inferior gene pool of African, Native American, and gentile-European white DNA.
At least we know why you're so MESSED UP lol Dude, btw, are you " on the Down Low " hahaha.[url]www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4538912&sourceCode=RSS[/url]
2005-06-06 21:43 | User Profile
Why do persist to call me "bob barr"? Also. are you implying my mixed descent makes me "messed up?" what's your excuse, O guardian of cracKKKer purity? gee, I wish I didn't have this daggone melanin, so I too could burn up and pass out after 20 minutes in the noonday sun on a day like today, the way I've known some Zoids to actually be able to do. As for being on the "down-low", I hope you aren't implying I'm a faggot like so many of you whites are, and have been since The ancient Freaks and Homos in their white dresses, fondlin' small boys. Your rush to defend the honor of Quadroon leads me to believe the two of you are very close buddies if you know what I mean.
2005-06-06 21:53 | User Profile
Najee Ali , a black, is on Court TV right now. He's been to jail, and he organized the " Caravan of Love " for Michael Jackson, bringing supporters from LA to the court. He's blabbering about how Jackson is innocent of child molestation. Jesse Jackson was just on with the typical. He just can't say a bad thing about a " bruthah" can he. What a pathetic circus clown he is. In a matter of hours MJ will either be cuffed and taken to intake or walk free. I for one think he'll be convicted.
2005-06-06 22:05 | User Profile
Michael Jackson hasn't been a "brutha" since the late 80's. Maybe he figured if he wanted to look the part, he had to act the part. At least he gives Feminem something to yap about, besides the usual song and dance about killing his family.
2005-06-07 00:12 | User Profile
[IMG]http://www.thespoof.com/picstore/thespoof/balcony.jpg[/IMG]
drop him... :pimp:
2005-06-07 00:26 | User Profile
drop him? ain't that a bit harsh? you probably thought the baby was Black. "Blanket" was born from some white guy's sperm artificially inseminating Debbie. that ugly white woman who the fag calls his wife.
2005-06-07 02:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Ked McFarlane]Michael Jackson hasn't been a "brutha" since the late 80's. Maybe he figured if he wanted to look the part, he had to act the part. At least he gives Feminem something to yap about, besides the usual song and dance about killing his family.[/QUOTE]
You write pretty good for a nigger. Raina, is that you?
2005-06-07 14:34 | User Profile
Ked McFarlane
[IMG]http://www.cnn.com/US/OJ/evidence/glove/GLOV2.gif[/IMG] And what about the bloodly hands this American Negro hereo.
There is a Afrikaner saying: You can take the Kaffer (nigger) out of the bush but you can't take the bush out of the Kaffer. :taz:
2005-06-07 15:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE]"AIDS" is probably the word for death-by-disease-in-Africa-that-garners foreign-aid. No wonder it increases exponentially.[/QUOTE]
That's about the size of it.