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Thread ID: 18508 | Posts: 96 | Started: 2005-06-03
2005-06-03 08:01 | User Profile
who'sbobbarr?...Ked McFarlane...Nate the Great...
I've created an official OD troll usergroup to put these type folks into. I had it on full moderation, but moved it back out. They can post, but not start new threads.
If they get to carried away then we'll have to just ban them outright. Sometimes they can be fun, but as I get older I get more tired of the nonsense and have little toleration for name-calling and insults, at least from the enemy camp.
2005-06-03 08:06 | User Profile
Jason,
I'm glad you did this, for after the crap we just went through with Whose Bob Bar Where's Bob Bar, I was getting ready to dump "Ked McFarlane" when I saw you putting this post up. I'm like you. I'm tired of fooling with them.
2005-06-03 08:08 | User Profile
I guess the OD Troll member group could be considered as kind of a cyber-purgatory where members can either begin to redeem themselves back into member status or damn themselves to permanent banishment.
2005-06-03 08:33 | User Profile
Jason,
How exactly does this usergroup work other than not being able to start threads? Are there any other restrains on them? I see that their names now are orange. Is that part of it?
Hell, it appears that we have a bunch of brothers migrating on to the board.
2005-06-03 13:18 | User Profile
Jason,
"New member"- "Jesus Christ" = Stigmata. Disposition: Banned permanently, if for any reason besides two screen names, bad taste.
2005-06-03 14:31 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusJason,
How exactly does this usergroup work other than not being able to start threads? Are there any other restrains on them? I see that their names now are orange. Is that part of it?
Yes, other restrictions too. No PMs, can't have avatars or signatures, etc. Basically they can only make replies on existing threads.
I think this is generous on our part. If someone who has been relegated to troll purgatory signs up under another name, then I say we just start banning as they are obviously just trying to disrupt the board.
However, I do refuse to shut down new registrations because of a stupid, obnoxious troll. I won't have Raina or any other troll dictate how this board operates.
2005-06-03 14:34 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusJason,
"New member"- "Jesus Christ" = Stigmata. Disposition: Banned permanently, if for any reason besides two screen names, bad taste.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. I nuked it.
2005-06-06 19:31 | User Profile
Jason,
Stigmata is arousing my temper. I hate being this way.
2005-06-07 01:01 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusJason,
Stigmata is arousing my temper. I hate being this way.[/QUOTE]
Whether Ked was Stigmata or not (I don't really know), either way he's gone for good. If any more sightings are made, please ban on the spot. I gave him a chance. New registrations are suspended for the time being, but who knows how many accounts the guy already has. I guess we'll see.
2005-06-07 07:55 | User Profile
Jason,
We have been busy with our trolls. I just looked are ban list. Oh, my big moniter is working again.
2005-06-08 21:13 | User Profile
We got another incarnation...
[u]whistler's mutha[/u] 16:11 Registering 64.12.116.202
2005-06-08 21:30 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MadScienceType]We got another incarnation...
[u]whistler's mutha[/u] 16:11 Registering 64.12.116.202[/QUOTE]
Who? :)
Just a little Texas justice. :cowboy:
2005-06-17 07:15 | User Profile
Hey Sert, I guess I missed the banning of Friedrich Braun until now, on the [URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=116363&postcount=6]Iraqi War[/URL] thread. I know he can be a little arrogant at times, and had rubbed you the wrong way on that Memorial Day thing, but I think personally he has a real beef on his mind about the WWII thing. Although it may be emotional, I certainly don't see the reason for banning, especially just on these last posts, which I've read stuff about myself.
I admit I don't keep up with all the bannings exactly, but I was at least aware of bans of the neocon types in general from this thread. Friedrich Braun took me a little by surprise though. He's a little arrogant, but I think we especially need to be careful with these Phora types, who overall at least make intelligent, researched, and reasoned posts (unlike say Gabby or Ponce).
Plus IMO, as I've stated, Phora is not long for this world, and I think we need to start getting these people back, as Tex has said in his expatriates thread. As a rule the Phoran's are smart, but opinionated. I think we need to work at ways to get a thicker skin, or some other means of winning their trust. I think we can all recognize how our tendency to ban people when they get under our skin and we're tired of dealing with them, like I did with Il Ragno, hurt this forum.
Maybe one solution might be to put in a new category, sort of like Liberty Post had, which I liked, where posters are put "in the corner" and limited to a certain number of posts per day, so we don't have to watch them all the time (for LP it was ten, but for our traffic it should be one or two).
Anyway I think we need to watch carefully the bannings in general, and possibly develop an alternative to some of the other bannings, but especially for people like Friedrich Braun who are opinionated but usually well researched and thought out and who still substantially agree with us ideologically. Learning how to get along with difficult people is one of the chief purposes of the internet IMO. And if we're going to get more traffic, some of it is going to be these little "push your button" issues.
Shute, I was criticizing Angler and Walter for posting things that really didn't have that much to do with paleo/nationalism (i.e. the energy crisis). I think we need to make sure we're all on the same wavelength here. One thing that irritates me about Walter precisely is he's too easy going actually. I'd say if we want this board to regain some of its Phora traffic, we need to let it become a little more like the Phora, flame wars and all.
That's my two cents
2005-06-17 07:19 | User Profile
Hey Tex, I'm just a little slow, but has our search function always been limited to 50 replies? Someone was looking for a way to dig up his old posts, and I couldn't really figure out a way.
2005-06-17 07:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Hey Tex, I'm just a little slow, but has our search function always been limited to 50 replies? Someone was looking for a way to dig up his old posts, and I couldn't really figure out a way.[/QUOTE]
I honestly don't know. There might be some kind of limiting function as I imagine it would tax the server pretty hard to pull up say, every couple of thousand posts by a long-time active member.
The search function here with vbulletin has always been unwieldy, large and rather limited, imo. If someone is trying to go back and find all their posts, they might do better googling their name strictly from the originaldissent.com domain. I just did it for Faust and it pulls up well over a thousand results.
2005-06-17 07:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]I honestly don't know. There might be some kind of limiting function as I imagine it would tax the server pretty hard to pull up say, every couple of thousand posts by a long-time active member.
The search function here with vbulletin has always been unwieldy, large and rather limited, imo. If someone is trying to go back and find all their posts, they might do better googling their name strictly from the originaldissent.com domain. I just did it for Faust and it pulls up well over a thousand results.[/QUOTE] Don Black had just referred to a problem he had with his server crashing, and how it had affected the search function. I was going to ask him, but I realized I really don't know enough to ask an intelligent question.
I'll have to get back to the guy who asked me that question. It might be a good thing to put up in general knowledge - how to use Google so it it doesn't burden our own server. I'm surprised how much about OD now turns up on Google now.
2005-06-17 07:44 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Hey Sert, I guess I missed the banning of Friedrich Braun until now, on the [URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=116363&postcount=6]Iraqi War[/URL] thread. I know he can be a little arrogant at times, and had rubbed you the wrong way on that Memorial Day thing, but I think personally he has a real beef on his mind about the WWII thing.[/QUOTE]
As far as I know, Sert had only suspended braun for Memorial Day, which I found completely reasonable. I think when braun could post again he came back on with both barrels blazing against Sert and in my opinion, we can't have members publicly and brazenly mocking and deriding our policies or views of long-time established members. In this case, Braun is a known quantity and I think we all know that at bottom he is up to no good here. Hell, even the phora banned the guy with Leland Gaunt. The latter being an internet personality I couldn't stomach at all. When Gaunt was allowed free reign here he almost drove the board into the ground. The decision as I see it was whether 'free speech' outweighed the significance of Memorial Day and what that day honors and commemorates. I would liken it to some obnoxious atheist posting diatribes against Christianity on Easter. I wouldn't hesitate to push the button in that case. Sert's a veteran, so I give him respect and defer to his judgment for his respects on a day like Memorial Day.
There's really no way to follow any kind of set procedure on these sort of things. Let's face it, most of the bannings and suspensions are done by us on an intuitive basis. I know both you and Sert over many years, so I don't ever question your decisions. At the end of the day, I know that we have alot more open board than practically any other one that I know of, with the possible exception of Liberty Forum, and we can see how 'chatty' those type of boards become when anything and everything is allowed.
In my opinion, OD is as open and free as it ever has been since its inception.
2005-06-17 07:57 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Don Black had just referred to a problem he had with his server crashing, and how it had affected the search function. I was going to ask him, but I realized I really don't know enough to ask an intelligent question.
I'll have to get back to the guy who asked me that question. It might be a good thing to put up in general knowledge - how to use Google so it it doesn't burden our own server. I'm surprised how much about OD now turns up on Google now.[/QUOTE]
Right now our mySQL database, which is the database that holds all our board info, is about 370 megabytes in size. Within that database is the 'postindex' table, which is basically the entire board's data, indexed in some kind of manner strictly for the search function. By itself it is half the size of our total database, around 160 megabytes. That's a huge monster.
When Don brought us on to his server, I deleted the search index in order to even be able to upload the rest of our database. There's a function in the admin panel that allows you to delete and/or re-index the search index. If you do it you can pretty much count on the board being unusable for about a day. It takes that long and really, really taxes the server. When Don recently moved servers after a crash, he kept our entire database intact and moved everything over exactly as it was before. That's really, really nice of him at bottom, but then again when doing our database compared to Stormfront's, I'm sure to him ours seems like a day in the park. His database is several gigabytes, compared to our little ol' 370 megs.
2005-06-17 08:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]As far as I know, Sert had only suspended braun for Memorial Day, which I found completely reasonable. I think when braun could post again he came back on with both barrels blazing against Sert and in my opinion, we can't have members publicly and brazenly mocking and deriding our policies or views of long-time established members. In this case, Braun is a known quantity and I think we all know that at bottom he is up to no good here. Hell, even the phora banned the guy with Leland Gaunt. The latter being an internet personality I couldn't stomach at all. When Gaunt was allowed free reign here he almost drove the board into the ground. The decision as I see it was whether 'free speech' outweighed the significance of Memorial Day and what that day honors and commemorates. I would liken it to some obnoxious atheist posting diatribes against Christianity on Easter. I wouldn't hesitate to push the button in that case. Sert's a veteran, so I give him respect and defer to his judgment for his respects on a day like Memorial Day. Well I admit I don't see as much of the darth FB as I used to. He does has one side that's sort of reflective, and yes he has another side also, which perhaps him being at the Phora I don't have an opportunity to fully appreciate.
There's really no way to follow any kind of set procedure on these sort of things. Let's face it, most of the bannings and suspensions are done by us on an intuitive basis. I know both you and Sert over many years, so I don't ever question your decisions. At the end of the day, I know that we have alot more open board than practically any other one that I know of, with the possible exception of Liberty Forum, and we can see how 'chatty' those type of boards become when anything and everything is allowed.
In my opinion, OD is as open and free as it ever has been since its inception.[/QUOTE]Phora seems pretty "chatty" also. And actually that's part of the $10 question. These guys do have some good stuff, but also seem to have an awful lot of chatter. Which I really don't miss. Il Ragno talking about his dreams last night, and other psychoses.
2005-06-21 06:05 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]Hey Sert, I guess I missed the banning of Friedrich Braun until now, on the [URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=116363&postcount=6]Iraqi War[/URL] thread. I know he can be a little arrogant at times, and had rubbed you the wrong way on that Memorial Day thing, but I think personally he has a real beef on his mind about the WWII thing. Although it may be emotional, I certainly don't see the reason for banning, especially just on these last posts, which I've read stuff about myself.
Okie, sorry I meant to reply to this sooner.
"Little arrogant" is an understatement. A silly arrogant fool is more like it, in my opinion. Braun's has two problems. One, he is his own worst enemy. Two, he needs to get the chip off his shoulder. That war ended 60 years ago and for him to come on this board and insult those of us who were born years afterwards is a little too much. I have asked him in private to tone it down and only received contempt in return. Braun loves the Nazis so much, let him chaff under "Nazi" like treatment. I've looked at some of his previous posts and see that he does this stuff constantly. He has his own board now, he can sieg heil to his heart's content there. When I say that he is his own worse enemy I mean it in the sense that there are alot of things I agree with him on, but, for him agreement doesn't mean meeting you halfway, it means damning everything about the US save Wm. Pierce or Geo. Lincoln Rockwell.
Most of the Phoranians are probably more trouble than they are worth. I don't expect anything out of them except problems.
Maybe one solution might be to put in a new category, sort of like Liberty Post had, which I liked, where posters are put "in the corner" and limited to a certain number of posts per day, so we don't have to watch them all the time (for LP it was ten, but for our traffic it should be one or two).
I made one for him, the disciplinary barracks at the cyber Dachau. I believe that is the only thing people like him understand.
Anyway I think we need to watch carefully the bannings in general, and possibly develop an alternative to some of the other bannings, but especially for people like Friedrich Braun who are opinionated but usually well researched and thought out and who still substantially agree with us ideologically. Learning how to get along with difficult people is one of the chief purposes of the internet IMO. And if we're going to get more traffic, some of it is going to be these little "push your button" issues.
Shute, I was criticizing Angler and Walter for posting things that really didn't have that much to do with paleo/nationalism (i.e. the energy crisis). I think we need to make sure we're all on the same wavelength here. One thing that irritates me about Walter precisely is he's too easy going actually. I'd say if we want this board to regain some of its Phora traffic, we need to let it become a little more like the Phora, flame wars and all.
That's my two cents[/QUOTE] I am afraid that in an attempt to accomodate the likes of Braun we run the risk of running Americans off.
2005-06-22 07:53 | User Profile
For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure our latest troll Levy Coon works for these guys: [url]http://www.foley.com/home.aspx[/url]
Looks like a law firm that is a veritable who's who of insider jews and window dressing minorities. :caiphas: :afro:
2005-06-22 10:26 | User Profile
T.D.
I see that the brother "Ked McFarlane" won't give up. I received a note this morning wondering if there was some way we could place a new member in a screening area where he would have to make 20 posts before he was allowed into the adult area. In view of the number of trolls we've had recently we may wish to consider this.
Did you trace Coon back to that law firm? I bet his boss really appreciates him wasting company time coming over here.
2005-06-22 14:47 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusI see that the brother "Ked McFarlane" won't give up. I received a note this morning wondering if there was some way we could place a new member in a screening area where he would have to make 20 posts before he was allowed into the adult area. In view of the number of trolls we've had recently we may wish to consider this.
Yes, we may. I'll have to look into that and maybe send a message to Don to see how he does it. Right now I have new registrations suspended for the time being.
Did you trace Coon back to that law firm? I bet his boss really appreciates him wasting company time coming over here.[/QUOTE]
Yes, if you check the IP under 'Malika', you can trace it to that law firm.
We done got us an uppity nigra stirrin' up trouble 'round here. 'Prolly a high yella fella.
:lol:
2005-06-22 16:18 | User Profile
LOL!
There's definitely one in the woodpile!
2005-06-25 15:47 | User Profile
Do we have a feature similar to "Free" Republic's notification when someone replies to a post you have written? See Welcome forum.
2005-06-25 19:15 | User Profile
Sert,
I've banned a couple since then. I think it's around 15 accounts.
He's always using AOL so I can't do an IP ban. He is obviously obssessed and disturbed.
2005-06-25 19:20 | User Profile
T.D.,
[QUOTE=Marxist]S,
When I try to edit my [url=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/profile.php?do=editoptions]settings/options[/url], I get a message that says:
- Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
- If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation. [/QUOTE] =================== He has 11 posts at this time. He is also the person who ask the question in the post I put up above. It appears he's not being allowed to post either. He seems alright, based note I have exchanged with him.
Thanks.
2005-06-25 19:30 | User Profile
He cannot adjust his settings until he makes 10 posts and becomes a "Member'. Then he can create an avatar, signature and everything else.
That's part of the new 'New Member' member-group created in reaction to the troll.
QUOTE=SertoriusT.D.,
=================== He has 11 posts at this time. He is also the person who ask the question in the post I put up above. It appears he's not being allowed to post either. He seems alright, based note I have exchanged with him.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
2005-06-25 20:46 | User Profile
T.D.,
I just got through putting an outdoor bench back together. It is hotter than hell out there. I've just read the above post and started grinning. That's why I noted the number of posts he had at the time. Anyway, he's happy now and I'm going sit on my refurbished bench with a cold beer. Thanks for looking into this for me. :cheers: I'll drink one for you while I'm at it.
2005-06-27 03:22 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Sert,
I've banned a couple since then. I think it's around 15 accounts[/QUOTE] Make that 16 accounts, T.D. I just removed him and his post in his latest form: "Dumas".
Here's a reply to you. [url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?p=118636#post118636[/url]
2005-06-27 07:59 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusT.D.,
I just got through putting an outdoor bench back together. It is hotter than hell out there. I've just read the above post and started grinning. That's why I noted the number of posts he had at the time. Anyway, he's happy now and I'm going sit on my refurbished bench with a cold beer. Thanks for looking into this for me. :cheers: I'll drink one for you while I'm at it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Sert. After I got through mowing my dust and hay, I enjoyed two cold ones. :thumbsup:
2005-06-27 08:55 | User Profile
I'm headin' up to yankee land this afternoon (Chicago), but will be back Tuesday evening.
Y'all keep an eye on things and don't let ol' Levi Coon take run of the board. :gunsmilie
See ya,
Jason
2005-06-28 23:42 | User Profile
T.D.,
"White Nobility" is "ErikD".
2005-07-01 14:28 | User Profile
T.D.,
Why can't we ban AOL accounts for the time being save the ones we already have?
2005-07-01 22:40 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusT.D.,
Why can't we ban AOL accounts for the time being save the ones we already have?[/QUOTE]
Sert,
You're asking for surgery with a scalpel and all the program has to offer is a meat cleaver.
2005-07-02 12:16 | User Profile
OK, we'll deal with it.
2005-07-03 03:02 | User Profile
Hey Tex, what did neoclassical do? Was it a private message?
2005-07-22 17:52 | User Profile
Crap, Dave. I must have missed your latest post. Neoclassical linked to one of the foulest, most vulgar picture and accompanying article that I have ever witnessed on the internet. I suspended him for around a month, I think. Good riddance actually as I strongly disliked that guy and his 'anus' website and nihilist philosphy.
I've set up new registrations to be manually approved by myself before they become a 'new member.' I did this because of our friend who'sbobbarr who kept registering new account after new account and getting a few posts in before being banned and deleted.
Who'sbobbarr was always creating a new account using AOL and a yahoo email address. So I run an IP check on the potential new member and refuse any that are coming from AOL or have a weird and suspicious user name.
Once a new registrant becomes a new member, they still have the 10 post limit before being able to start new topics or adjust their profiles.
2005-07-23 18:23 | User Profile
[QUOTE] The administrator has decided that Ponce should be quiet for a while.[/QUOTE] :D This moderator wishes he could figure out how to keep Ponce from posting on his threads. He is a thread killer all too often.
2005-07-23 18:41 | User Profile
This moderator wishes he could figure out how to keep Ponce from posting on his threads. He is a thread killer all too often.[/QUOTE]
LOL. Nobody else can see that little message, Sert. Everybody else just gets blank space. :)
Ponch has been getting a little cocky lately, so for the first time ever I've pulled out the board's secret weapon - put a member on ignore for everybody else. Ponch still sees his own posts and carries on as normal, but nobody else can see or read anything that he's done.
Pretty sweet, actually.
I agree with you, Ponch posts what seems like 8000 post a day and everyone are either nonsensical or just plain stupid and distracting.
Irritating.
2005-07-24 08:37 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]LOL. Nobody else can see that little message, Sert. Everybody else just gets blank space. :)
Ponch has been getting a little cocky lately, so for the first time ever I've pulled out the board's secret weapon - put a member on ignore for everybody else. Ponch still sees his own posts and carries on as normal, but nobody else can see or read anything that he's done.
Pretty sweet, actually.
[/QUOTE]So have you figured out what you're going to do when he finds out? He'll be hopping mad.
Its an interesting feature. Can visitors see his posts? I imagine they could.
This is your baby of course, but if I were you I wouldn't overdue this feature. Just use it for couple day stretches when Ponce is getting under your skin particularly, then no one will be the wiser. Its a neat feature, but also sort of sneaky and underhanded, banning someone in effect without them realizing it. It obviously only works with people that are sort of slow and not missed, so people don't tip them off by e-mail. Like Ponce :wink:
Although like I said I personally have sort of a soft spot for the guy. I think he does help in a way with our board, by preventing our discussions from getting too heated and serious. He's sort of the mirror opposite of people like Max, Spiderman, Madrussian, and "Vitebe".
2005-07-26 07:34 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]So have you figured out what you're going to do when he finds out? He'll be hopping mad.
Well I reckon I'll just play dumb. Maybe he'll get so mad he'll just hop off to some other board that is more anti-American and Castro-fellating.
Its an interesting feature. Can visitors see his posts? I imagine they could.
No, they can't. I checked.
This is your baby of course, but if I were you I wouldn't overdue this feature. Just use it for couple day stretches when Ponce is getting under your skin particularly, then no one will be the wiser. Its a neat feature, but also sort of sneaky and underhanded, banning someone in effect without them realizing it. It obviously only works with people that are sort of slow and not missed, so people don't tip them off by e-mail. Like Ponce :wink:
Although like I said I personally have sort of a soft spot for the guy. I think he does help in a way with our board, by preventing our discussions from getting too heated and serious. He's sort of the mirror opposite of people like Max, Spiderman, Madrussian, and "Vitebe".[/QUOTE]
He's the mirror opposite of almost the entire thrust of the board, IMO, a la rban. I still have serious doubts about him being who he says he is and can't help but think he's some leftist juvenile having a big laugh at our expense. With every 100 inane posts he makes every day the guy just kills thread after thread after thread with his doofus, "poor immigrant that can barely speak the language" idiocy. I'm sorry, but I can hardly bear it anymore.
What I wish is there were some way I could limit the number of posts one member can make within a 24hour period. I'd give him maybe two posts.
I appreciate your opinion and I'll think on what to do with him at this point. He obviously is suspicious now that something was done, but maybe it generated some uncomfortableness being here on his part, though he's so seemingly dense I sincerely doubt it. The bottom line is that if I really thought he was all the things he has claimed he is, then I might have more sympathy on him. For a long time now I've thought he's just a troll disrupting the more serious focus of the board as a whole.
2005-07-26 07:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]The bottom line is that if I really thought he was all the things he has claimed he is, then I might have more sympathy on him. For a long time now I've thought he's just a troll disrupting the more serious focus of the board as a whole.[/QUOTE]Well you're definitely a more suspicious sort than I am, and sometimes you're definitely right (aka Trisk).
I just think though if you really are going to ban him permentently, you ought to just go ahead and do it. You remember how paranoid the Phoran's were that you had some underhanded tricks ready to use.
If you doubt his bona fides, possibly you could confront him with it, and say you'd like some more info from him.
We've definitely gone a long way from the rban level of tolerance, I'll say that. And as many weird people we get here, he doesn't really stand out that much actually IMO.
2005-07-26 21:20 | User Profile
The audacity!
How dare you deny me my daily fix of Ponch's words of wisdom!
Oh yeah, I forgot the [sarcasm][/sarcasm] tags.
Ponch is a weird case. He's not overtly hostile, at least until lately, but you're right, his clogging up threads with incessant gibberish can drive one insane. I once told him he was the Ivory Soap of this message board: 99 & 44/100% non sequitur. He didn't get it.
Not sure it's worth a permanent nighty-nite for him, but having a little fun with him seems to be, well, fun!
2005-07-26 21:26 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MadScienceType]Not sure it's worth a permanent nighty-nite for him, but having a little fun with him seems to be, well, fun![/QUOTE]
Yes. Okie would deny me one of the few pleasures I still have on the board.
:whlch:
2005-07-30 18:48 | User Profile
I've got into the habit of skipping over Ponce's post.
2005-07-30 19:00 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Yes. Okie would deny me one of the few pleasures I still have on the board.
:whlch:[/QUOTE]:cry:
Its a neat feature, but I just wasn't sure where it would all lead, if it lasts too long. Knowing Tex, he might end up apologizing to Ponce. I know we don't want [I]that[/I] to happen. :biggrin:
2005-07-30 22:27 | User Profile
I've been gone for awhile. Who'se the latest troll(s)?
2005-07-31 05:57 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusI've been gone for awhile. Who'se the latest troll(s)?[/QUOTE] I see you've found one already.
Actually other than calling Adolf "Shitler" and making a couple of pro-black, anti-women posts Josef seemed fairly ordinary. Did Franco or MR send you any PM's? I think they've given up on me.
2005-07-31 06:19 | User Profile
Okie,
It's nice to be back and see that things are normal.
Yes, I got pm from them. When someone sends me a complaint I'll go look and see if there is any validity to the it. If it is someone just whinning, I'll ignore it. I looked at all his posts and decided the complaints were valid.
2005-07-31 07:05 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusOkie,
It's nice to be back and see that things are normal.
Yes, I got pm from them. When someone sends me a complaint I'll go look and see if there is any validity to the it. If it is someone just whinning, I'll ignore it. I looked at all his posts and decided the complaints were valid.[/QUOTE]Well it makes me nervous that Franco and MR, who realy don't like any anti-Nazi's and protest about every one, feel they have so much power. Any other board save SF really it would have been the guys engaging people like Josef - people like Otto and Franco- who would have been thrown off.
I remember when I was defending Franco :lol:. Seriously Franco was polite t first but really a much worse troll. We realy though have come a ways.
2005-07-31 07:11 | User Profile
Okie,
Yeah, I know what you mean. With a few of these folks I've had to write them back and tell them to mind their own business when it comes to the board. It is one thing to be told about a suspected troll, it is another thing to get a message about banning someone. I won't do that unless I see a need to do so. This new guy didn't waste anytime picking a fight with a number of folks.
2005-07-31 23:28 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Yes. Okie would deny me one of the few pleasures I still have on the board.
:whlch:[/QUOTE]
Ponch is back, baby!
[img]http://www.nndb.com/people/940/000024868/estrada-sm.jpg[/img]
[url]http://soundamerica.com/sounds/themes/Television/C-E/chips2.wav[/url]
2005-08-01 00:52 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Okiereddust]I see you've found one already.
Actually other than calling Adolf "Shitler" and making a couple of pro-black, anti-women posts Josef seemed fairly ordinary. Did Franco or MR send you any PM's? I think they've given up on me.[/QUOTE] Okie,
I think I have found another-- OttoR. He will be the next if he keeps posting crap like he did on that stupid thread Opera started about Hitler and the Noble Prize. I need to keep my reputation as someone who is an equal opportunity banner when it comes to Neo-con type trolls and Net Nazis like our new friend, Otto.
At times I would almost like to see all these threads on Hitler these idiots start to see if they have any historical worth in posting or will only result in a stupid flame war as that one has. I should argue with these dumbasses, for I bet I know more than most of them put together, but I figure it would be a waste of time.
2005-08-01 08:15 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusOkie,
I think I have found another-- OttoR. He will be the next if he keeps posting crap like he did on that stupid thread Opera started about Hitler and the Noble Prize. I need to keep my reputation as someone who is an equal opportunity banner when it comes to Neo-con type trolls and Net Nazis like our new friend, Otto.
At times I would almost like to see all these threads on Hitler these idiots start to see if they have any historical worth in posting or will only result in a stupid flame war as that one has. I should argue with these dumbasses, for I bet I know more than most of them put together, but I figure it would be a waste of time.[/QUOTE]Yes, I would like to see some of these threads somewhere. That's why I've always wished for a disruptor's, anti-paleocon, etc section, or something along these lines.
I hate to set a policy of banning comments like "Adolf Hitler was a murderous, devil worshipping, homosexual ass*** " (or even without the 4 letter word) not only because those are the feelings most of the world has about them, and we need to allow them if we're going to be a board where mainstreamers can feel they're not just never never land, but also because those comments have a certain truth to them, leaving aside the hyperbole. However they also upset a good proportion of the board who want to be able to carry a reasonable discussion regarding issues.
A disuptors section I think would be a good place to put a lot of people, probably all the people we've wanted to ban really (excepting Raina) these people aren't terroristic, just tiresome. Of course a disruptors section also requires more work to keep watch over.
2005-08-01 09:09 | User Profile
Okie,
I left out a word. I should have wrote: [QUOTE]At times I would almost like to see all these threads first on Hitler these idiots start to see if they have any historical worth in posting or will only result in a stupid flame war as that one has.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry I didn't see that post when it first went up. I would have dumped it, as it serves no useful purpose. I'm sure Opera could have posted it on one of the other forums he belongs to that cater for that sort of thing. I've done that before with some of these guys. Instead, I'm thinking about pointing out to him that he is making a mistake the Jews love to see-- starting in the middle of the 20th Century instead of the beginning. There would be even more folks alive. I got bad news for him if he was born here. Running down those who fought for the US doesn't make him look good at all.
I bet "OttoR" he has for his handle stands for Otto Remer, as in the name of the commander of the Berlin Gds battalion that put down the 20 July plot. I think I will ask him. :jester:
2005-08-01 13:55 | User Profile
I repudiate the above. [COLOR=DarkOrange][Edit: that is, my initial impression about Otto. The rest stands.][/COLOR]
2005-08-01 14:07 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Well I reckon I'll just play dumb. Maybe he'll get so mad he'll just hop off to some other board that is more anti-American and Castro-fellating.
No, they can't. I checked.
He's the mirror opposite of almost the entire thrust of the board, IMO, a la rban. I still have serious doubts about him being who he says he is and can't help but think he's some leftist juvenile having a big laugh at our expense. With every 100 inane posts he makes every day the guy just kills thread after thread after thread with his doofus, "poor immigrant that can barely speak the language" idiocy. I'm sorry, but I can hardly bear it anymore.
What I wish is there were some way I could limit the number of posts one member can make within a 24hour period. I'd give him maybe two posts.
I appreciate your opinion and I'll think on what to do with him at this point. He obviously is suspicious now that something was done, but maybe it generated some uncomfortableness being here on his part, though he's so seemingly dense I sincerely doubt it. The bottom line is that if I really thought he was all the things he has claimed he is, then I might have more sympathy on him. For a long time now I've thought he's just a troll disrupting the more serious focus of the board as a whole.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
Ponce once claimed to be a Silver Star winner if I remember correctly. Since then he's been quite vague about the nature of his "service". On one thread in which he was very active, he ignored yet another question about those medals he claims:
[url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?p=113578#post113578[/url]
Would be interesting to find out how many Cuban-American emigres have been awarded Silver Stars, if any. Also interesting is why this individual's command and comprehension of the English language seems to vary widely- although his syntax and spelling are always uniformly bad, he seems to become much more "foreign" when pressed. Maybe it's just a Castro Cuban kind of thing.
These kinds of participants, along with the suspicion that many active posters for some reason use multiple "identities", really dampen enthusiasm for my own participation.
2005-08-01 14:10 | User Profile
Weisbrot,
I ran a check on him and tracked his IP to NYC. There's no telling. I think he simply someone who is either enjoys lying or is lonely as hell, one of the two.
2005-08-01 16:09 | User Profile
[QUOTE=MadScienceType]Ponch is back, baby!
[url]http://soundamerica.com/sounds/themes/Television/C-E/chips2.wav[/url][/QUOTE]
LOL! :lol:
Try this one, MST:
2005-08-01 16:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=weisbrot]These kinds of participants...really dampen enthusiasm for my own participation.[/QUOTE]
Mine too, white bread.
2005-08-01 16:25 | User Profile
:thumbsup:
So much for the appetite. I guess I really didn't have time for lunch anyway...
2005-08-01 16:30 | User Profile
Junior Brown was in town last Saturday night for two shows at the Mucky Duck.
I couldn't make it. :angry:
2005-08-08 17:21 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusI've got into the habit of skipping over Ponce's post.[/QUOTE]
Just go through the board and take note of each thread he kills with his non sequiturs.
Like MST said, the guys like Ivory Soap - 99.97% pure non sequiturs.
:bash:
2005-08-08 17:45 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Just go through the board and take note of each thread he kills with his non sequiturs.
Like MST said, the guys like Ivory Soap - 99.97% pure non sequiturs.
:bash:[/QUOTE]Well actually looking through his posts generally he's on topic. But when he's off topic you really notice it, like [URL=http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=124369&postcount=12]this post on this thread[/URL].
I consider it sort of a mark of rudeness, like when you're having a conversation with some people, and someone repeatedly starts talking about something else.
Figures he's from New York.
2005-08-12 16:28 | User Profile
Pretty sure 'Genevan' is Raina.
Now we have the Ponce and Raina show! :punk:
2005-08-13 01:18 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Pretty sure 'Genevan' is Raina.
Now we have the Ponce and Raina show! :punk:[/QUOTE]Tex, it sure seems like everytime a rabid dominionist comes along they get banned. Surely there aren't that many Raina's out there?
You said Raina uses aol ISP's?
(I might add that I admit its a bit of a personal compliment when Raina trolls us by mouthing views that shows she's personally studied up on me. You aren't a little jealous Tex are you - I mean when was the last time Lutherans were militant or extreme about anything? :lol:)
2005-08-15 17:11 | User Profile
"Elefon" was "Raina", I take it?
2005-08-15 17:30 | User Profile
QUOTE=Sertorius"Elefon" was "Raina", I take it?[/QUOTE]
Well, he/she admitted as much.
Seems to be attacking the board and continuously re-registering new accounts. I was able to mine a couple of IP addresses, one of which was identical to 'tricknologist'. I entered the IP addys as permanently banned ones. That should make it a little harder for this obssessed troll.
I've suspended new registrations for the time being, FYI. Sigh.
2005-08-15 17:53 | User Profile
Tex,
I think that is for the best in view of the large amount of riff-raff we've attracted lately. Most of it seems to be coming from the Phora. This is like having a dog with fleas get into bed with you when you are asleep.
I wonder if my boy "CWR" might be just one of many personalities this cyber version of Sybil possesses? For the time being I consider him to be as you noted- a southern fried (pun intended) version of Leland.
2005-08-30 15:12 | User Profile
Sorry, T.D., I know you wanted to, but I couldn't resist dropping the hammer on this ass. (Savrola) 12.110.236.100
2005-08-30 15:28 | User Profile
:lol:
It won't keep me up at night, Sert.
:)
2005-08-30 15:32 | User Profile
Tex,
I just knew you would be heartbroken. Actually, I was apologizing for not letting you have the honors. :lol:
2005-08-30 15:40 | User Profile
It's one thing to come on, disagree with us and make an intelligent argument. It's quite another to come on jeering, sneering and deriding posters with snide one-line posts.
It appears that distinction is not lost on you, Sert. Well done.
2005-08-30 15:45 | User Profile
Thank you. It looked like he was going to one of those from what I saw last night. Do you know who "Oberon" is that the others refer to?
2005-08-30 15:49 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusDo you know who "Oberon" is that the others refer to?[/QUOTE]
Absolutely no idea.
2005-08-30 19:52 | User Profile
T.D.,
According to IR he was a former board member here. Under what name I don't know. He plays a phoney Southerner type on another board.
2005-08-30 20:08 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusHe plays a phoney Southerner type on another board.[/QUOTE]
Well kiss my grits!
:clown:
2005-08-31 07:39 | User Profile
Sert,
Received the following email from this fellow:
I was not aware that the moderation of your site was so similar to that forum, your posters purport to hate so virulently...Free Republic.
Though my conduct on Original Dissent was hardly that of a troll, or the average Free Republic poster, I was banned within 24 hours of my arrival. Your moderation seems to be no different from that of the Stalinist system of FR.
There was some question of whether I was re-tread, or returning bannee, when I was banned. I deny this categorically. I am a first time poster...a Nationalist Paleoconservatarian. I am not a racist, and there I seem to differ from about 90% of your posters. Still, I looked forward to intelligent discouse while on Original Dissent, but was unable to find it.
I would appreciate some notice, in regards my banning. And possibly...if practiable...an explanation.
Thank you.
Paul Bingham paulbingham44@yahoo.com
What do you think?
2005-08-31 08:02 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]Sert,
Received the following email from this fellow:
I was not aware that the moderation of your site was so similar to that forum, your posters purport to hate so virulently...Free Republic.
Though my conduct on Original Dissent was hardly that of a troll, or the average Free Republic poster, I was banned within 24 hours of my arrival. Your moderation seems to be no different from that of the Stalinist system of FR.
There was some question of whether I was re-tread, or returning bannee, when I was banned. I deny this categorically. I am a first time poster...a Nationalist Paleoconservatarian. I am not a racist, and there I seem to differ from about 90% of your posters. Still, I looked forward to intelligent discouse while on Original Dissent, but was unable to find it.
I would appreciate some notice, in regards my banning. And possibly...if practiable...an explanation.
Thank you.
Paul Bingham paulbingham44@yahoo.com
What do you think?[/QUOTE] This is Savrola, I've almost forgotten what he said anyway, although it did seem a little smart-ass at the time? Why do you pull suspended members posts so fast Tex? It makes it heard to remember what they said.
As to being like Free Republic looking for trolls and trying to ban them, we are pretty much like them now in our hyper-vigilance for them. Somehow I thought this was the internet, and you didn't have to take things so seriously, even if someone wants to be a smart-ass and takes the trouble to chase us a bit. I'm not sure exactly all trolling does really. And I'm consider that if you are may be helping these people more by over reacting than any other thing you can do.
But you know me Tex - I'm still waiting for Ponce to return :lol: BTW you must have nuked ole Ponce - I can't find him anywhere
2005-08-31 08:07 | User Profile
I haven't yanked anybody's posts in quite a while, with the exception of Hiser who asked to be completely nuked from the board. Everything that both the members you mentioned posted should still be up on the board.
2005-08-31 08:43 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]I haven't yanked anybody's posts in quite a while, with the exception of Hiser who asked to be completely nuked from the board. Everything that both the members you mentioned posted should still be up on the board.[/QUOTE]You're right, he's still there. I'm just a lazy ass who doesn't like to search the board manually instead of clicking on a members profile.
Hey Tex, sounds like you're having a hard time about not getting mainline paleo sites to link to you. I think it may not be worth wasting much time over. Everyone has their own linking policies, and a lot of people are real conservative. And really we've become a pretty far-out site anyway - privately the Wilkipedia categorization is fairly close.
Ever consider alternate types of sites other than staid mainline paleo sites? How about some of those European New Right types? I know some of them like Evola give you the creeps, but I think we might be able to use some new blood, if we're cautious. I think they're not all Triskelion's.
Not that I've personally researched the Eurpean New Right really, I admit. I just think those people might be more in tune with where we're headed and speculating on.
2005-08-31 13:35 | User Profile
Jason,
He writes that he was looking for intelligent discussion. He had plenty of opportunities to do so and instead chose to write smart-assed comments back to everyone except one about "Astoria". I asked him what he thought should be done on that thread pertaining to the Hmongs and meatpacking. There is enough on that thread for him to know what I was talking about. Instead, I get as a reply "about what?" If he is as smart as he thinks he would have answered the question. I'm not sure about him. While what the other members say about other posters I take mostly with a grain of salt at the same time I note they do hang out on these other boards and occasionally have some of these trolls follow them back. I lean against it for the reason he had plenty of warning that he was ticking folks off.
If you decide to let him back on I would make sure he understands that being a jackass won't cut it.
2005-08-31 15:19 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusI lean against it for the reason he had plenty of warning that he was ticking folks off.
If you decide to let him back on I would make sure he understands that being a jackass won't cut it.[/QUOTE]
I agree and stand by you, S. I really just wanted to pass along his note to you, for what it's worth.
No worries.
2005-09-04 02:10 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusIf you decide to let him back on I would make sure he understands that being a jackass won't cut it.[/QUOTE]
:lol: LOL. Yep, we're full up on jackasses. :)
2005-09-09 21:33 | User Profile
T.D.,
Speaking of jackasses, I removed that thread of Todd's and informed him of the fact. He can bitch at me about it. I don't care.
2005-09-09 22:34 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusT.D.,
Speaking of jackasses, I removed that thread of Todd's and informed him of the fact. He can bitch at me about it. I don't care.[/QUOTE]
Fine with me, Sert. I was the one who first nuked it in Culture War, then he posted it again in The Arts and I moved it into Members Only.
To be honest, my reply to him on that thread was to bait him and give me a good excuse to ban the guy outright. The guy is just vile with absolutely no manners or sense of decorum.
Or as my Dad would say, "He doesn't have the sense God gave a mule."
2005-09-09 23:20 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusT.D.,
Speaking of jackasses, I removed that thread of Todd's and informed him of the fact. He can bitch at me about it. I don't care.[/QUOTE]Good work Sert.
You know, it is sort of surprising to me that all of the VNNers didn't say a peep about Todd's misogynic taste in women. I guess that's because they knew it was irritating Tex and the rest of us.
Oh well, par for the course.
2005-09-10 01:05 | User Profile
Thanks,
Interestingly enough, some time ago one of the women on this board wrote me that she thought that some of those guys were misogynists and homosexuals. It wouldn't surprise me. I'm surprised I haven't heard anything back from Todd. He ought to know better.
2005-09-18 02:27 | User Profile
[QUOTE] The administrator has decided that Ponce should be quiet for a while.[/QUOTE] :D This moderator wishes he could figure out how to keep Ponce from posting on his threads. He is a thread killer all too often. T.D.,
Do you remember this? Could you do the same for Mentzer when he starts his nonsense on that movie thread of Il Ragno's? He reminds me of an early version of an IBM computer that uses the old punch cards for programming. Except in Mentzer's case it appears that someone got a hold of the cards and gave them a good shuffle, for the answers sure as shooting don't have anything to do with what is posted there. :blink: :wacko:
2005-09-22 15:37 | User Profile
T.D.,
Here's to you and your loved ones and to anyone else in harm's way. I hope you are hunkered down.
2005-09-25 08:36 | User Profile
T.D.,
We're thinking of you. Hope everything is going well.
2005-09-26 19:28 | User Profile
Hey Ryan,
Thanks for the notes. I'm somewhat back in the saddle now, being completely offline since last Wednesday afternoon.
We had a pretty good scare down here, but fortunately for us the storm took a late right turn right before hitting land last Friday night/Saturday morning.
I'm pleased to say that all of my family is ok and suffered no significant or severe damage. Even though we were left of the eye, we still had wind gusts of about 60 miles per hour. With all my pine and oak trees, I'm very thankful that none broke or snapped and landed on my roof. A few of my neighbors weren't so lucky. Our power lines are underground, so we weren't without power but for a few hours on Saturday morning. My parents' home was without power for about a day and a half, and my in-laws just now got their power back. Saturday and Sunday was spend cleaning up a whole lot of smaller branches and debris from my yard. About 12 bags and a couple of bundles worth of pine needles, pine cones and smaller tree branches. It's a real mess, but nothing like what they have in Beaumont, East Texas and southwest Louisiana. Those areas are going to be down for quite some time, from what I see and hear.
The big issue down here was the evacuation plan and the complete gridlock of the highways and absolutely no gasoline to be found. Last Wednesday night/Thursday morning when Rita was a category 5 storm bearing straight for Galveston, we packed up what we could and were planning on evacuating, but could not even get out of our neighborhood with the gridlock. We held-off and when the storm finally started tracking a bit east of us, we decided to just hunker down and ride it out hoping for the best. I found some plywood Friday and boarded up our windows and secured things as best I could.
I'm thinking of making a post concerning lessons learned and how best to prepare oneself for a major urban disaster. With all the riff-raff coming up the freeways from the city, I was glad to have my little .22 rifle and .38 revolver, but admittedly I did not forsee the complete lack of gasoline and how critical a resource that turned out to be.
Anyway, just wanted to jump in here and let y'all know that we're ok, but it will be another few days before things get somewhat normal down here again.
Oh yeah I almost forgot. I was able to buy my first cold Heineken last night at a stripped-out and barren convenience store down the street that had ventured to open-up. :) Unfortunately, I had to pay for it though. :) I guess Texas is a bit different that Louisiana in some regard -- most home and shop owners down here won't hesitate to shoot first and ask questions later and I think most of the potential looters down here seem to know this almost instinctively. We didn't have any problems with looters, though I know there were some problems out on the highways.
2005-09-26 20:27 | User Profile
Jason,
I'm glad to hear that things turned out well for y'all. You might want to post something here, as there have been inquiries about you. [url]http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?p=131634#post131634[/url] I'm particularly glad to hear about the Heineken. It could have been a "Lonestar" or, Gawd forbid, a "Texas Pride".
Think I'll go drink a beer to your health. :beer:
2005-09-26 20:32 | User Profile
QUOTE=SertoriusThink I'll go drink a beer to your health. :beer:[/QUOTE]
There you go, Sert. :thumbsup:
Make it a Shiner Bock...for Texas.
2005-09-26 20:46 | User Profile
[QUOTE=Texas Dissident]I'm thinking of making a post concerning lessons learned and how best to prepare oneself for a major urban disaster. With all the riff-raff coming up the freeways from the city, I was glad to have my little .22 rifle and .38 revolver, but admittedly I did not forsee the complete lack of gasoline and how critical a resource that turned out to be. [/QUOTE]Good to hear you're back Jason. You can make as long or a short post as you all like, however much you want to make a pesonal statement. I'll let everyone know you checked in though. :smile: